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Higgenbotham
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Re: Financial topics

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http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline ... /rise.html
Had circumstances been less dire, the news of four urgent phone calls from a New York bank in a single day likely would have been easier to ignore. "Nobody's historically more suspicious of outsiders than South Dakotans,'' Bill Janklow, the former governor of South Dakota, told FRONTLINE in a recent interview.

But it was 1980, South Dakota's economy was a mess, and suspicion was an instinct that Janklow could not afford. "We were in the poor house,'' he recalled. "It cost 42 cents a bushel in 1980 to haul wheat. When something's only selling for $2.20 a bushel, you certainly can't afford to be paying almost 50 cents a bushel to ship it.''

The calls were from Citibank, which was having a serious problem of its own. "It was very simple,'' said Walter Wriston, then the chairman of Citibank. "We were going broke.''

The bank had lost more than $1 billion on its audacious foray into the credit card business, and the future looked even worse. The trouble, simply put, was that the rate of inflation exceeded the amount of interest Citibank was allowed to charge its credit card customers under New York usury laws.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/eva-norly ... 27709.html
But this time around it's not just another boring announcement. In fact, the letter reads more like a page out of The Grinch Who Stole Christmas. In the letter, Ken Stork of Citibank's South Dakota Customer Service Center informs me that effective November 30, Citibank, will increase the variable APR for purchases on my Advantage Citicard to 29.99% APR.
http://market-ticker.denninger.net/arch ... rning.html
But more important, I believe, is what this says about what's really going on in these banks. Many simply put this out there as a "response" to the pending credit-card legislation, and note with irony that the bank that is most-owned by taxpayers (Citibank) is the one doing the worst screwing of the consumer.

But is it that simple? After all, given the extraordinary support that the taxpayer has put into Citibank (they would be literally out of business several times over but for our support) would not Treasury stomp on this sort of abuse? Remember, Barack Obama is supposedly "for the people" and "change in Washington and on Wall Street", right?

Perhaps there something more dangerous - and hidden thus far - going on here? Perhaps what we're really seeing is a business reacting to hidden deterioration of asset bases that are not known by investors and the public due to the legitimation of bogus accounting that happened this last March, but which is known by company executives!

Why do I believe this is a plausible, even likely explanation for this behavior by Citibank? That's simple: This sort of "terms change", which is an effective declaration of default even against those who haven't defaulted (see above; the same 30% rate is being applied to defaulted and non-defaulted accounts!), will drive two consumer behaviors that could ultimately destroy Citibank's credit card business and perhaps the bank as a whole.
While the periphery breaks down rather slowly at first, the capital cities of the hegemon should collapse suddenly and violently.

aedens
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Re: Financial topics

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Remember the dark pool guys?

http://www.zerohedge.com/article/overvi ... t-facility

Nothing has changed and the problems are not solved. From an old post to a left wingers spewing how
the Governement is the solution..... We are so fucked as a Nation since where are the Adults.
http://generationaldynamics.com/forum/v ... 1480#p3483

I am hearing some CRE *poof*

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Re: Financial topics

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Higgenbotham wrote:http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline ... /rise.html
Had circumstances been less dire, the news of four urgent phone calls from a New York bank in a single day likely would have been easier to ignore. "Nobody's historically more suspicious of outsiders than South Dakotans,'' Bill Janklow, the former governor of South Dakota, told FRONTLINE in a recent interview.

But it was 1980, South Dakota's economy was a mess, and suspicion was an instinct that Janklow could not afford. "We were in the poor house,'' he recalled. "It cost 42 cents a bushel in 1980 to haul wheat. When something's only selling for $2.20 a bushel, you certainly can't afford to be paying almost 50 cents a bushel to ship it.''

The calls were from Citibank, which was having a serious problem of its own. "It was very simple,'' said Walter Wriston, then the chairman of Citibank. "We were going broke.''

The bank had lost more than $1 billion on its audacious foray into the credit card business, and the future looked even worse. The trouble, simply put, was that the rate of inflation exceeded the amount of interest Citibank was allowed to charge its credit card customers under New York usury laws.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/eva-norly ... 27709.html
But this time around it's not just another boring announcement. In fact, the letter reads more like a page out of The Grinch Who Stole Christmas. In the letter, Ken Stork of Citibank's South Dakota Customer Service Center informs me that effective November 30, Citibank, will increase the variable APR for purchases on my Advantage Citicard to 29.99% APR.
http://market-ticker.denninger.net/arch ... rning.html
But more important, I believe, is what this says about what's really going on in these banks. Many simply put this out there as a "response" to the pending credit-card legislation, and note with irony that the bank that is most-owned by taxpayers (Citibank) is the one doing the worst screwing of the consumer.

But is it that simple? After all, given the extraordinary support that the taxpayer has put into Citibank (they would be literally out of business several times over but for our support) would not Treasury stomp on this sort of abuse? Remember, Barack Obama is supposedly "for the people" and "change in Washington and on Wall Street", right?

Perhaps there something more dangerous - and hidden thus far - going on here? Perhaps what we're really seeing is a business reacting to hidden deterioration of asset bases that are not known by investors and the public due to the legitimation of bogus accounting that happened this last March, but which is known by company executives!

Why do I believe this is a plausible, even likely explanation for this behavior by Citibank? That's simple: This sort of "terms change", which is an effective declaration of default even against those who haven't defaulted (see above; the same 30% rate is being applied to defaulted and non-defaulted accounts!), will drive two consumer behaviors that could ultimately destroy Citibank's credit card business and perhaps the bank as a whole.
http://fraser.stlouisfed.org/docs/meltzer/whereg95.pdf They knew this Higgy from day one and they do not care. Bailout 2.0 is on the way.

http://www.tnr.com/article/economy/the- ... ial-crisis partial somewhat nuetral spin for a lefty rag.

There are not enough adults on The Hill and just to many who think they are entitled to your money and you know how that turns out in History with the useless and cheerfull idiots now thinking for you in Washington. Oh yea where going to crash since there are no adults in power. The right wants permanent air bases in the Afgan and Merkal just melted In Germany to the terrorist and wants our systems out of Germany. The left wants destroy more capital with medicad for anything that breaths in the States legal, or illegal people since the ice pick in the back will be the so called Supreme court stripping the right of the taxpayer to say no as was done in the so called California State wards and serfs of Washington now, and we wonder why at this pace will be in middle ages very soon given all Fiat currency's historical reality. Cannot fix stupid just tell the sheep to obey since the State will save the World. Priceless monetary policy on both sides of stupidity. Yea, I remember "children under your desks this is a mandatory government drill." Basically, any base has 20 seconds and most International people I know laugh as we spend to oblivion. Priceless idiots all over... We could link till hell froze over but America is basically braindead to reality and vote what they deserve.

If you stoled 10 shillings in Adam Smith day you where hanged unless you where "above the commoners class" Nothing new under the Sun and reading that press in the era is fasinating.
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Higgenbotham
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Re: Financial topics

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aedens wrote:Remember the dark pool guys?

http://www.zerohedge.com/article/overvi ... t-facility
As more and more American retail and institutional investors realize the magnitude of the scam, the risk that equity markets will remain an isolated bubble in perpetuity where Primary Dealers simply play around with the Fed's excess capital, becomes tangible. And as long as there is no regulatory reform to commence the split of TBTF institutions, as long as financial system crutches persist and as long as the opportunity cost of being wrong is zero (and borne only by US taxpayers), US equity markets will continue to be a scam. Therefore, Zero Hedge advises all readers to immediately remove all their capital from the stock market, until such time as proactive steps are taken to remedy these numerous concerns, or alternatively suffer the consequences of not only another Fed inflated market bubble, but the even sadder consequences of its unwind.
Zero Hedge sees it the same way we do:

"My feeling is that the stock market has gone from being a casino to being a carnival.

If the banks have taken TARP money and gambled on the stock market as others have suggested (and that seems like a reasonable conclusion), the public should stay away and let the banks take the hit when the market collapses. Unfortunately, the pension funds will probably continue to buy in and many workers will lose most of their retirement money."

I've read since that the pension funds are reducing allocations to equities.

Another thread has the story about the Obama admin rejecting Volcker's admonitions to separate the TBTF.
While the periphery breaks down rather slowly at first, the capital cities of the hegemon should collapse suddenly and violently.

aedens
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Re: Financial topics

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Higgenbotham wrote:
aedens wrote:Remember the dark pool guys?

http://www.zerohedge.com/article/overvi ... t-facility
As more and more American retail and institutional investors realize the magnitude of the scam, the risk that equity markets will remain an isolated bubble in perpetuity where Primary Dealers simply play around with the Fed's excess capital, becomes tangible. And as long as there is no regulatory reform to commence the split of TBTF institutions, as long as financial system crutches persist and as long as the opportunity cost of being wrong is zero (and borne only by US taxpayers), US equity markets will continue to be a scam. Therefore, Zero Hedge advises all readers to immediately remove all their capital from the stock market, until such time as proactive steps are taken to remedy these numerous concerns, or alternatively suffer the consequences of not only another Fed inflated market bubble, but the even sadder consequences of its unwind.
Zero Hedge sees it the same way we do:

"My feeling is that the stock market has gone from being a casino to being a carnival.

If the banks have taken TARP money and gambled on the stock market as others have suggested (and that seems like a reasonable conclusion), the public should stay away and let the banks take the hit when the market collapses. Unfortunately, the pension funds will probably continue to buy in and many workers will lose most of their retirement money."

I've read since that the pension funds are reducing allocations to equities.

Another thread has the story about the Obama admin rejecting Volcker's admonitions to separate the TBTF.
Obama forwarded some SBA money we conveyed months ago on the forums to the failure numbers of Small Business.
http://generationaldynamics.com/forum/v ... 1490#p3519
It happens I closed one and sold out of another in the late 80's and 90's. The Mom and Pop are devastated in a larger than regional scope and given the speed of decline the drift the market calls pause appears to be the last spasm since the debt parasitic effect killed and killing the host's in the staggering millions .
Double dip may turn out to be a good scenario considering the speed of cratering but we have the data and so do they and will do much for years
and I do mean years of pain. I think Mr. Market can assert a P/E to a decent nominal value but since Mr. Market is only a ZIFF card pick a number.
The difficulty's are perception of the merging of Guv Agency's and effect we have noted over time in the forums. The sheep some day will see what has been done and seeing this real time is sad but that is the way history is. The Bond Market was the smart money but compared to what...
Pain 2.0 coming soon so please plan all. Many Vanilla investors are are gone so who knows are the institutionalized and fundamental bag holders will fare?
Never will the SEC and Senate have the ability to a transparent market since the mid 1980's they where dismissed to minor domestic issues. They have no
voice for decades and there bullshit press and direction asserts that FACT. As forwarded for me closed position and recorded it in forums to look in Feb.
Who Knows what these kids are doing other than the obvious we have watched so it is just that.
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INDEX VALUE CHANGE OPEN HIGH LOW TIME
DJIA INDEX 9,944.00 13.00 9,914.00 9,956.00 9,914.00 23:59
S&P 500 1,078.10 1.20 1,076.50 1,079.80 1,075.20 23:59
NASDAQ 100 1,755.25 3.25 1,752.00 1,758.00 1,750.00 23:57

http://generationaldynamics.com/forum/v ... 1490#p3505
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Re: Financial topics

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http://garyscommonsense.blogspot.com/
Ill wait. Yea there all v recovery's. Today will be the emo day for the market it appears so discipline over conviction.

Every central bank in the world is now swept up in the fantasy that they can get something for nothing by simply running the printing presses. By creating trillions and trillions of bank notes and forcing this liquidity into asset markets central banks have created the illusion that all is well again. However all is not well. Conditions in the real economy are not improving. On the contrary they are getting worse. All the liquidity the Fed has been creating is causing inflation to heat up in the commodity markets and most specifically in the energy markets again. The one thing we don’t need in a high unemployment/depressed economic environment is spiking energy costs. But that is exactly what the Fed is doing.

aedens wrote: Tue Jun 16, 2009 6:30 pm
Like posited before we will see who makes "survives" the October grade. Many will be making adjustsments then.
All I would like to forward as history conveys is who posted earnings during the great shake then as today is conveying
again. P/E is a tool which to be frank I set aside for the time being myself since EBIT will sort them out.
I feel to many are prone to tools "angle" rather than hard work. As stated nuetral until the pretty boys
in the suits find out the hard way what value does mean. Of course my anemic 3.2% is something I live with this
YTD. Be carefull and will be seeking this fall for a few EBIT based investments only. Overall i see a massive amount
of wasted time in the Capital Markets which is a sign of the apathy Mr Market will have to cure in the current uncoupling
to persist from gross Global malinvestments which have really not played out in to many supply side markets.
Until dollar to crude is broken so we will be also to effective course change. Energy will smother out whatever
process we consider but no one cared in the 70's either since look who is holding the beast at the Consumers expense.
Maybe this time more will degrid which will idicate the consumer is growing up. All we can do is point the obvious out.
The piggyback globalist have screwed in bright spots they consider correct. Find them, "supply side" and you find the problem
or adjustments you need to pursue.

Good indications to macro issue linked below.

http://suddendebt.blogspot.com/

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Re: Securitization - an evil Boomer Silent Invention not GenX

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Dear Jason,
Jason wrote: > John, you are going to hate this information...

> Mortgage Backed Asset Securitization was already legalized in
> 1970, when the oldest GenXer was around 10 years old.

> Many blame mortgage securtization for being the root cause of the
> current "World Financial Crisis" or WFC. ...

> "In February 1970, the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban
> Development created the transaction using a mortgage-backed
> security. The Government National Mortgage Association sold
> securities backed by a portfolio of mortgage loans"

> Looks like the lethal combination of Boomers and Silent Generation
> gave birth to this evil baby. :oops:

> Of course the usual suspects, a "greedy nihilistic Gen X" must
> take the blame, as always..... :lol: hehehe. .
New kinds of securities and securitization of debt are created at all
times in history. The issue isn't when the securities were created,
but when the securities were used abusively. Survivors of the 1930s
Great Depression were extremely wary of credit, and so debt-based
securities were used very sparingly in the 1970s and 1980s.

It was only when the Boomers took over senior management positions in
the 1990s that securities abuse went off the rails, and only when
Gen-Xer's reached middle management positions in the early 2000s that
the major forms of abuse occurred, creating the current financial
crisis.

** Markets fall as investors are increasingly unsettled by bad economic news
** http://www.generationaldynamics.com/cgi ... 21#e071121


Even the simplest forms of debt securities can be abused. For
example, here's a paragraph that I've quoted several times online,
describing the last days of the Tulipomania bubble in the 1630s:
Edward Chancellor in Devil Take the Hindmost, a history of financial speculation wrote: > "No actual delivery of tulips took place during the height of the
> boom in late 1636 and early 1637 as the bulbs remained snug in
> the ground. A market in tulip futures appeared, known as the
> <i>windhandel</i> (the wind trade): sellers promised to deliver a
> bulb of a certain type and weight the following spring, buyers
> took the right to delivery -- in the meantime, cash settlement
> could be made for any difference in market price. Most
> transactions were expedited with personal credit notes which also
> fell due in the spring when the bulbs would be dug up and
> delivered. Gaergoedt boasts of having made 60,000 guilders from
> his tulip speculations but admits that he has only received
> "other people's writing." By the later stages of the mania the
> fusion of the <i>windhandel</i> with paper credit created a
> perfect symmetry of insubstantiality: most transactions were for
> tulip bulbs that could never be delivered because they didn't
> exist and were paid for with credit notes that could never be
> honoured because the money wasn't there." (pp. 16-18)
These "personal credit notes" were very simple forms of securities.
The fact that they existed is not the point; the point is that in the
last days of Tulipomania, the lethal combination of people in the
Nomad and Prophet generational classes of the time used them
abusively, creating a major financial crisis.

John

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Nouriel Roubini predicts a global market crash

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-- Nouriel Roubini predicts a global market crash

If I'm not mistaken, Nouriel Roubini predicted a global market crash
on CNBC this morning.

The following is my transcription. The lines in brackets [] are
paraphrases of interview questions.
Nouriel Roubini wrote: > [Could we see the stock market run continue?]

> Yes, in the short run what's happening is that there's a wall
> of liquidity, not just in the United States but around the world,
> that's chasing assets -- it's equities, it's commodities, it's
> gold, it's emerging market asset classes.

> And now we have even the mother of all carry trades. Everyone is
> borrowing short, shorting the dollar, borrowing and investing in
> assets all over the world. Global equities, comodities, credit,
> emerging market asset classes.

> The risk is however, right now people are borrowing at zero
> percent interest rates in the United States. Effectively the rate
> of borrowing is negative, because with the dollar falling -- ?? in
> the capital gain, -- you're buying any asset around the world.
> All these assets are perfectly correlated.

> Eventually, the dollar cannot keep on falling. Once the dollar
> stops falling, it reverses. Yo7 have a sudden reversal of the
> dollar, you have to close your shorts, you have to dump assets,
> and you could have a market crash all over the world. That's a
> risk.

> [Is that anywhere near happening?]

> No, it's not near happening because for the time being the Fed is
> keeping short rates at zero, expected to remain zero, and the Fed
> is becoming the biggest seller of volatility because it's buying
> $1.8 trillion of Treasuries, agency debt and RMBSs, so volatility
> on the long end is low, and on the short end is zero, so this game
> is played until ????.

> [Question about central banks]

> There's a gap between what you have to do for the real economy,
> and what you have to do for financial stability. The real economy
> is still weak. There's deflation actually in the economy. Look
> at the cycle 2001-2006. They kept the fund rates all the way down
> to 1% through 2004, three years after the recession was over.
> Then they did step by step [raises of] 25 basis points every six
> weeks.

> This time it's the same, only worse. Output has fallen 4%, not
> 0.4%. Unemployment rate is going to peak at 10%, not at 6.5. We
> have actual deflation rather than risk of deflation.

> So if the Fed wants to target the real economy and avoid
> deflation, it has to keep the Fed funds rate at 0 for longer. But
> if it does that, then you create another huge asset bubble.

> With the carry trade, that asset bubble is now becoming global,
> and everyone has to follow U.S. monetary policy by intervening in
> a non-sterilized way. That eases money at reduced rates, and
> therefore we're exporting our monetary policy to the rest of the
> world.

> And that's leading to a global asset bubble. And once there's
> the unraveling of that carry trade that eventually is going to
> occur, because the dollar cannot keep on falling, then you can
> have a market crash on a global basis.

> [q: Is this current asset bubble worse than the one that preceded
> the fall of Lehman?]

> It could become worse because if the Fed keeps the rates at zero,
> and if the Fed keeps controlling and reducing volatility on the
> long end, then everybody is playing the same game. Everybody is
> buying dollars and going long in risky assets all over the world.

> [Have we put out one fire, only to create another one?]

> I think we have two objectives here -- stabilize the real
> economy, and avoid financial instability. But we're using one
> target, the Fed funds rate, to target the real economy, but we're
> creating a new asset bubble, bigger than the previous one, and
> that's a mistake we're doing right now.
This can be summarized as follows:
  • The Fed's zero percent interest rate policy is creating a "wall
    of liquidity."
  • Investors are using the carry trade -- borrowing dollars at zero
    interest rates, and buying risky assets around the world -- equities,
    commodities, emerging market asset classes. This is creating a new
    asset bubble, bigger than the previous ones.
  • This will continue as long as the dollar keeps falling. But
    eventually the dollar MUST stop falling.
  • At that point, the carry trade will reverse, and investors will
    have to return the dollars they've borrowed. This means that they'll
    all sell their equities, commodities, emerging market asset classes,
    all at the same time, creating a global market crash.
I've read through this transcript several times, and I don't see that
he's left much doubt that this is going to happen. The only point of
ambiguity in what he's saying is the timing. He says that it won't
happen soon because the Fed will keep interest rates low for a while,
but surely he realizes that isn't the issue. The trigger will not be
the Fed funds rate, which is set by policy; the trigger will be the
ending of the fall of the dollar, and that's set by the market. And
with deflation already occurring, the dollar could stop falling at any
time, irrespective of the Fed funds rate.

As usual, you have to ask the question, "What would Nouriel Roubini
say if he believed that a global market crash was imminent?"

And the answer is that he'd be saying what he said in the above
transcript.

He wouldn't be talking about a global market crash at all if he
thought it was a distant possibility; the fact that he seems to
predict it indicates that he believes that it could happen in the
near future.

I've always been puzzled by what people like Nouriel Roubini and Ben
Bernanke really believe. As I've been saying for seven years, a
market crash MUST occur with 100% probability by applying the Law of
Mean Reversion. I don't expect the man on the street to understand
the Law of Mean Reversion, but I DO expect professors of economics at
NYU and Princeton to understand the Law of Mean Reversion.

This is the first time that I've heard Roubini, or indeed any major
financial official in Washington or around the world, predict a
market crash. This is a big change in opinion by Roubini, or at least
a big change in what he's saying.

John

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Re: Financial topics

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Regarding your article about the stock market bubble...

John,
You state that the stimulus and bailout monies along with QE pumped up the stock market since March. While I can see the stimulus might have had a minor effect increasing liquidity, the bailout money seems more questionable since it largely went to pay off debts. As for QE, that would seem to be the main channel of liquidity via the carry trade (as addressed in your article above). My question is, is it possible to estimate the amount of money that's been injected into the stock market since March?

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Re: Financial topics

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http://english.cctv.com/program/worldwi ... 1757.shtml#

Our dollar will fund bases in afganistan and columbia. Funny when Corporate needs soldiers the Right always has a new spark of a idea
like press the press, and the Lefts usefull and cheerfull idiots drown in the cool aid of the day again. Ask Fox to check on it....
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/au ... bases-deal

http://www.opensecrets.org/industries/s ... cycle=2008#
Thought so, since there feelings where hurt about coverage. Where smoke is, fire is. Reform, yea, ok, next question....

The lunatics all over are doing what lunatics do. Ask for your children. Idiots top to bottom.

SDR is a done deal so plan for it.

This became more apparent in the past week when China announced at the ASEAN conference in Thailand that the CAFTA free-trade agreement will be finalized January 1st, 2010. This agreement includes RMB-regionalization, meaning, the institution of the Chinese Yuan as a standard currency between all the member nations of ASEAN, much like the Euro in the European Union:

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid= ... Z6mmb.nuoM
==============================================================================================
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/26/busin ... f=business
Setting up the equivalent of living wills for corporations, that plan would require that they come up with their own procedure to be disentangled in the event of a crisis, a plan that administration officials say ought to be made public in advance.
Contract and law, wow what a concept. Bond Holder fire the old management, what a novel idea.

http://shadow.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2 ... to_no_good
Why? Follow the money my dear taxpayer.
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I have the honor to care for a Veteran's Widow in my Household before he passed and we talked as many do about us being drug into the Worlds insanity
in conflict's before he passed away. Tough times and all who serve this Country and our Letter. Thank You.

Chávez picture below with out tin foil hat on.
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