19-Jul-12 World View -- Syria bombing strikes blow at Assad

[John]

19-Jul-12 World View -- Syria bombing strikes stunning blow at Bashar al-Assad


Investors hoping for a catastrophe

** 19-Jul-12 World View -- Syria bombing strikes stunning blow at Bashar al-Assad
** http://www.generationaldynamics.com/cgi ... 19#e120719




Contents:
Bombing in Damascus Syria kills much of Assad's inner circle
Another Syrian general, more army officers defect to Turkey
Damascus bombing strikes stunning blow at al-Assad's Sunni Arab extermination program
David Bloom at HSBC - Hoping for a catastrophe


Keys:
Generational Dynamics, Damascus, Syria, Bashar al-Assad,
General Fahad Jassim al-Freij, Free Syrian Army,
David Bloom, HSBC

[thomasglee]

I understand that Syria is in a Generational Awakening period, but as we know, it only takes one man to spin out of control to create a major catastrophe. The masses might not rise up, but what are the chance (high I believe) that Assad will try something really desperate, like using chemical or biological weapons that would unleash a devastating retaliation.

Also, if insurgents keep flowing into the country stoking the situation, isn't it likely that at some point the people (pro-Assad or not), may feel they HAVE to respond in kind? Those coming in from countries that are in crisis generations are the ones perpetuating this conflict. Isn't it possible/likely that the Sunnis in Syria will have no choice but to fight aggressively to counter the Shia that are out to ensure their destruction? I get a bit confused by it all! lol

[mannfm11]

I think what John means is there really isn't much of an organized opposition to Assad. We had the bombing of the Capital in the 1960's, huge protests, but other than a few small splinter groups, no civil war. If we had a totalitarian government, the response would have been worse. As it was, the response of the government, like at Kent State, were scars on the government, not the protesters.

More to the point is the Wall Street game. QE isn't for the economy. It is free money for banks to acquire assets to strip gains and nothing else. The public isn't into stocks, regardless of the long rally. Clearly the insiders are trying to rattle the can enough to get the publics money, but they can't leverage themselves much more. That is the public or the banks. Like the housing boom, the stock market needs new money, buying pressure, to go up.

My question is, once this market starts down, do the banks get to mark to maturity? Maturity on stocks is zero, as that is the eventual end of all of them. It would be total absurdity for banks to recognize gains on the way up and then be isolated from losses on the way down. If it isn't banks using this free money, it is some other entity. One brokerage is advertising something akin to 85% leveage to buy dividend stocks. It won't take much downward pressure to receive a margin call, thus forced liquidation. I believe the hedges work like this as well. Liquidated loans are reductions of available money and in a crunch will be devastating. Bernanke seems more concerned with the financial markets going up than anything else. Question is Bernanke stuck or those worshiping at his altar?

[thomasglee]

Yeah, that part I get, but my point is just because there isn't much organized opposition developing from WITHIN the country, that does not mean it can't get really bad. Right?

Anyway.... to your other point about the banks...

A couple of years or more ago, I watched on YouTube a documentary called "The Money Masters". It was made in 1996 and laid out what was coming in a way, with hindsight, was RIGHT on target. It is 3.5 hours long and goes into great detail about how the banksters will use economic catastrophes to consolidate power. They predicted, in 1996, what is happening today. The position held in the documentary was that within the next ten years (remember, this was in 1996), the bankster elites (read the real power brokers that control the world through our financial institutions such as The Federal Reserve Bank, The Bank of England, etc.), would create a financial crisis that would transfer large amounts of global assets into the hands of a few to help usher in a global fiat currency that will be issued by a single entity (The World Bank) and consolidate power. It was a quite interesting documentary and in watching it this second time, I saw how they were right on target. The first time around, things were not as bad as they are now nor where they as clear as they are now. It's quite amazing and sad. I believe that we are losing this battle and losing it in a major way. I know we are in a crisis generation, so it will be interesting to see if we will come together enough to truly be able to break free of the shackles that have been placed on us over the last nearly 100 years.

A quote they used in the documentary was very interesting and very apropos to what I believe our government has been slowing trying to do to us over the last ten years (I see no REAL difference in the political parties any more). Here is the quote:

"If one understands that Socialism is not a "share the wealth" program but is in reality a method to consolidate and control the wealth, then the seeming paradox of super rich men promoting Socialism becomes no paradox at all. Instead it becomes logical, even the perfect tool of power-seeking megalomaniacs. Communism, or more accurately Socialism, is not a movement of the down-trodden masses but of the economic elite." - Gary Allen

[Trevor]

Yes, Assad's getting desperate, but him losing is not a foregone conclusion. He's still got plenty of people who are loyal to him and he will never stop killing until the protestors are destroyed. Now that the chemical weapons depots have been moved, he might decide to use them. I have a feeling that the only reason he hasn't is because if Assad went that far, we'd feel like we have no choice but to intervene in their war.

[thomasglee]

Yes, Assad's getting desperate, but him losing is not a foregone conclusion. He's still got plenty of people who are loyal to him and he will never stop killing until the protestors are destroyed. Now that the chemical weapons depots have been moved, he might decide to use them. I have a feeling that the only reason he hasn't is because if Assad went that far, we'd feel like we have no choice but to intervene in their war.

I agree. I know many here are not students of the Bible and many reject the Bible, I understand and that's their prerogative, but I cannot help, as I see what is going on in Damascus, but to think of Isaiah 17 and the "Burden of Damascus".

Isaiah 17:1 - The burden of Damascus. Behold, Damascus is taken away from being a city, and it shall be a ruinous heap.

[Trevor]

I don't think Assad is done yet and he might be able to hold onto power, but it is possible for me to be wrong about this. I've been watching the news on this and most analysts are predicting that even if Assad leaves, that the civil war will nevertheless continue. Granted, there might be some incidents, but I don't see anything like what they're predicting.

The key is not to waste this opportunity. We'd better be intelligent enough to try and wield some influence in the region, unlike what we did in Egypt's case.

[Laustim]

Stoking insurgency situation You keep flowing into the country also, it is somewhere people (pro-Assad or not) is, they are likely to feel some sort of need to respond, is not it? These three come from the crisis in the country is what led to this conflict. It Sunnis in Syria do not have a choice but to ensure they fall outside of Asia to fight aggressively to respond to potential / possible is not it? I get bit confused by both......