9-Mar-11 News -- New violence in Ivory Coast

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9-Mar-11 News -- New violence in Ivory Coast

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9-Mar-11 News -- New violence makes Ivory Coast increasingly unstable

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Re: 9-Mar-11 News -- New violence in Ivory Coast

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John,

As you say, events seem out of control of politicians, but are they really? Aren't they just a result of the power structure that has crept into the system over the last decades and that now firmly rules, doing whatever it wants to do, no matter who gets elected?

I guess if we want democracy in our land, we will have to somehow re-establish it.

I would like to ask you what you think of the following using your generational methodology:

The big problem of our time is increasingly that the inevitable settlement (or destruction) of debt is postponed and postponed, thereby exacerbating the size of the crisis that will inevitably hit us in the end.

It used to be that, at such points, countries would go to war to divert their populations' attention, find outside (or inside) scapegoats, and in the process manufacture excuses for the crisis and for the state's inability to keep promises (one need not look further than the impossibility of paying for retirement and medical benefits for the baby boomers, something I personally figured out with a simple pocket calculator in the 1980s, and I am not an economist! Yet, as society we have steadfastly continued our course towards this impossibility.).

Anyway, settlement and keeping promises has become impossible, we know that. But war, like it used to be, is impossible, too. In the nuclear age, a nuclear attack does not solve any problems. You cannot pillage the people you attack and you have a very high chance of being annihilated yourself. (I guess "certainty" is the more appropriate word here.)

The inevitable conclusion is therefore that the anger and rage will come to a boil and play out within countries themselves.

What do you think about the possibility of the crisis war being a civil war within the US? What shape would it take and who would it pit against each other? What would its outcome be?

-Frank

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Re: 9-Mar-11 News -- New violence in Ivory Coast

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Dear Frank,
Frank Baynes wrote: > I would like to ask you what you think of the following using your
> generational methodology:

> The big problem of our time is increasingly that the inevitable
> settlement (or destruction) of debt is postponed and postponed,
> thereby exacerbating the size of the crisis that will inevitably
> hit us in the end.
In both the global financial and geopolitical areas, the survivors of
WW II were well aware how small problems can spiral out of control
into major crises and wars.

However, the experience since WW II is that small problems tend to
disappear by themselves, without causing much damage. Hence, when a
small problem occurs, international officials apply band aids, in
order to supply a temporary solution, until the problem disappears by
itself. The band aid itself may do harm or be harmless, but either
way, the resolution of the problem is postponed, as you point out, and
the crisis is worse when it finally occurs.

It's generally assumed that the various Arab "revolutions" going on
around the Mideast will soon peter out, and things will return to
"normal." What I see is a trend toward growing instability in the
Mideast during a generational Crisis era. This trend may not
continue, but if it does, then the region may be at full-scale war
within a few months.

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The next question is: When does this regional war become threaten to
become a world war? That would be when the U.S. or Nato gets involved
(as we might do in Lybia), or when Israel gets involved.

John

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