4-Jul-11 News -- Independence Day, 2021

[John]

4-Jul-11 News -- Independence Day, 2021

America and the World in Recovery

** 4-Jul-11 News -- Independence Day, 2021
** http://www.generationaldynamics.com/cgi ... b#e110704b


** 4-Jul-11 World View -- Thailand's Yingluck Shinawatra wins decisively
** http://www.generationaldynamics.com/cgi ... 04#e110704

EU threatens to 'massively limit' Greece's sovereignty

Contents:
"Independence Day, 2021"
"America and the World in Recovery"
"New technology"
"The world economy and geopolitics"
"Culture"
"The 2030s"


### World View - Thailand's Yingluck Shinawatra wins decisively
"Yingluck Shinawatra wins decisive victory in Thailand"
"EU approves 3-month bailout of Greece"
"EU threatens to 'massively limit' Greece's sovereignty"
"Syria's security forces plan major assault on city of Hama"
"Islamic banking uses different mechanisms besides interest payments"
"Turkey's PM Erdogan won the election, but faces problems"
"Turkey recognizes Libyan rebels as legitimate government"
"Israeli and Palestinian security forces cooperate to prevent violence"
"Pigeons can recognize human faces"
"How Symantec cracked Stuxnet"

Keys:
Generational Dynamics, Independence Day, 2021, Obamacare,
Singularity

Keys:
Generational Dynamics, Yingluck Shinawatra, Thailand,
Thaksin Shinawatra, Greece, Jean-Claude Juncker,
Hama, Syria, Bashar al-Assad, Islamic banking,
participation banking, Recep Tayyip Erdogan, Turkey,
Transitional National Council, Libya, Ahmet Davutoglu, Israel,
Palestine, pigeons, Symantec, Stuxnet

[JULLIEN]

It's quite possible that President Obama will get the credit for universal health care. The current "Obamacare" plan is economically disastrous, and will not be implemented, as I've previously described. However, once the war ends, the health care issue will be revived. Universal health care will finally be possible, thanks to the new technology described in the last paragraph. The result may (or may not) be credited to Obama or his successor.

Well, western European health care systems were implemented just after WW2 (October 1945 for France where it's a constitutional mandate for the State to provide it) and they are far more efficient than the American one. So, it seems to me it's a question of political will and not about technology. More generally libertarianism is probably doomed under the next generational turning. We can suppose people will be less individualist and national solidarity (at least some sort of collective solidarity) will be more or less taken as a given. So the rule of law will probably be easier to gain with important consequences for market economies even if by our standards they will be characterized by dirigism.
However, would a nuclear world war be a return to 1945 or to Neanderthal ?

[vincecate]

By July 4, 2021, these robots will be repurposed for Recovery. They'll be able to remediate radioactive waste sites that would be deadly for a human. They'll be able to do many of the tedious, repetitious chores involved in anything from rebuilding a home to harvesting crops.

John, I think you are too optimistic. These robots will be drones with machine guns, missiles, or bazookas and small robot tanks. None of these will be repurposable.

[John]

Dear Vince,

> John, I think you are too optimistic.

Yes, call me Mr. Pollyanna.

> These robots will be drones with machine guns, missiles, or
> bazookas and small robot tanks. None of these will be
> repurposable

I don't think that's clear. The current crop of robots from iRobot
are very configurable, and it would possible to unbolt a machine gun
and replace it with an arm with some kind of grappler or wrench on the
end of it. I would think that even the military robots would be
configurable, and would even be designed for multiple uses, including
post-war recovery.

John

[vincecate]

I would think that even the military robots would be
configurable, and would even be designed for multiple uses, including
post-war recovery.

Perhaps. However, I think they will be either flying or very heavy, neither of which is going to be useful in my house. A flying thing big enough to carry a machine gun is just not going to be small enough to fly in my house without blowing everything all over the place. A small armored vehicle would destroy my tile floor. Still think you are too optimistic on this point.

Now maybe the software for driving supply vehicles around the battlefield will be used to drive vehicles down the highways or on farms. Maybe even some of the supply vehicles. There will be advances driven by stuff developed for the war. But I don't think that much of the new drones or robot fighting vehicles will just be redeployed in the home environment.