Justin Bieber wins artist of the year, favorite pop/rock album and best pop/rock artist at the American Music Awards. Carly Rae Jepsen was named best new artist.

His performance at AMA

Two years ago he premiered "Pray" at this show.

(edit) Bieber has said that what he really wants to win is the Grammys (he's been nominated but not won yet). Not that I think much of any of these awards; only the most popular artists ever win them. But I still like it that I like the artist that won the AMA awards.

Originally Posted by Eric the Green

Justin Bieber wins artist of the year, favorite pop/rock album and best pop/rock artist at the American Music Awards. Carly Rae Jepsen was named best new artist.

His performance at AMA

Two years ago he premiered "Pray" at this show.

(edit) Bieber has said that what he really wants to win is the Grammys (he's been nominated but not won yet). Not that I think much of any of these awards; only the most popular artists ever win them. But I still like it that I like the artist that won the AMA awards.

Yet they're all horrible without autotune. I'm starting to wonder with your obsessive love and sucking up to Bieber if you work for his record company.

Originally Posted by Dave 89

Yet they're all horrible without autotune. I'm starting to wonder with your obsessive love and sucking up to Ratt if you work for his record company.

I don't the the record company is the case. However, I wonder if Eric is getting some sort of kickback via tracking cookies...

Originally Posted by Ragnarök_62

I don't the the record company is the case. However, I wonder if Eric is getting some sort of kickback via tracking cookies...

Nomad Moment: Joneser Edition was brought to you by the letter R, the number 62, the United Organization for Umlaut Appreciation, the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, and viewers like you.

~Chas'88

Originally Posted by Dave 89

Yet they're all horrible without autotune. I'm starting to wonder with your obsessive love and sucking up to Bieber if you work for his record company.

He's a "radio guy." That should explain it sufficiently enough.

Originally Posted by Dave 89

Yet they're all horrible without autotune. I'm starting to wonder with your obsessive love and sucking up to Bieber if you work for his record company.

When are you guys going to post some positive comments on Bieber here? I mean really, get over it! Your poor taste just oozes from these pages! Some of you even say you like One Direction and the Backstreet Boys. Bieber is so obviously superior to them, and all the other current pop artists in the bargain. I'm starting to wonder too; I don't know who you are sucking up to, or if it's just jealousy; but sometime you're gonna have to "face the music" and give the guy credit. But meanwhile, say whatever you want. It's actually pretty hilarious! I think it's so funny that people are obsessed with knocking Justin Bieber. The most hates on a music video that ever will be. Just funny!

And these "autotune" comments really get old!

Boy, I'd love to work for his record company! Talk about easy money! I sure wouldn't need to post comments here, do ya think?? Huh?! Scooter Braun is a genius. I mean, he gets Cody Simpson and Carly Rae Jepsen to sing Owl City's "Good Time" at Justin Bieber's Believe concerts. Now, that is a line-up to dream about!

Originally Posted by Ragnarök_62

I don't the the record company is the case. However, I wonder if Eric is getting some sort of kickback via tracking cookies...

Well, it sure isn't paying off here, is it?????

Originally Posted by Chas'88

Nomad Moment: Joneser Edition was brought to you by the letter R, the number 62, the United Organization for Umlaut Appreciation, the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, and viewers like you.

~Chas'88

don't forget the cookie monster!

Originally Posted by Copperfield

He's a "radio guy." That should explain it sufficiently enough.

No, I would not be allowed to play Bieber on my radio shows, past or present.

Originally Posted by Eric the Green

Well, it sure isn't paying off here, is it?????

Yeah it is. Anytime someone just clicks on your posted URL's you get paid. That's how tracking cookies work. It doesn't matter if that person soon discovers they've been duped into listening to a cacophony. Even if they hastily close the browser window or use the back arrow, it's too late. The tracking cookie is there. For it matters not if they listened for a nanosecond or the whole thing.

Originally Posted by Ragnarök_62

Yeah it is. Anytime someone just clicks on your posted URL's you get paid. That's how tracking cookies work. It doesn't matter if that person soon discovers they've been duped into listening to a cacophony. Even if they hastily close the browser window or use the back arrow, it's too late. The tracking cookie is there. For it matters not if they listened for a nanosecond or the whole thing.

I dunno; I must not be getting paid much. Most people here aren't even willing to listen. Their opinions on JB are already pre-formed, and are not open to change. So why would they click the link?

Originally Posted by Eric the Green

When are you guys going to post some positive comments on Bieber here?

If the world ends on 12/21/12 I'll post something nice before it all goes down. Otherwise, keep waiting, Eric.

j.p.

Originally Posted by Eric the Green

I dunno; I must not be getting paid much. Most people here aren't even willing to listen. Their opinions on JB are already pre-formed, and are not open to change. So why would they click the link?

If everyone already has their opinions of Bieber than why must you always force him down everyones throat?

Originally Posted by Eric the Green

I dunno; I must not be getting paid much. Most people here aren't even willing to listen. Their opinions on JB are already pre-formed, and are not open to change. So why would they click the link?

I did listen to JB; including every link you posted. I have tried to like him in order to better understand the Millennials. I simply do not like JB's vocal stylings. The more I hear them, in fact, the less I like them. That is the opposite of how it is supposed to work too. Theoretically, the more one listens, the more likely the song is to be internalized. That never happened with JB. His vocals annoy me and grate on my ears, even though you enjoy them.

It's wonderful that you enjoy JB, and find a positive message in his music. Not everyone is going to feel that way, no matter how incomprehensible that may be to you.

Give me some 3T Xer music anytime. I play 3T Xer music all of the time. And I am not an Xer.

Originally Posted by Dave 89

If everyone already has their opinions of Bieber than why must you always force him down everyones throat?

Why do you think I'm doing that?

If you don't want to read this thread, don't click on it.

All I did before your recent post about what you're "starting to think," was report on his success at AMA. I guess you expect me not to reply. But hey, this is a discussion board.


Actually Rags, yes, I am getting paid. L.A. Reid called me up, and gave me a Def Jam Records contract to post links to JB exclusively on The Fourth Turning website. And that even included clicks on the Justin Bieber thread itself. In fact, he gave me an extra bonus just for having started the thread on my own.

But you know what, he looked at the results, and last month he cancelled the contract. It just did not result in any revenue for his company.

So now, I'm not being paid at all. I guess you just have to realize that Bieber is not going away, based on my report above. He is still just as popular after 3 years, and he wins awards and makes good records. You might just have to admit that he's good someday.

I don't know if I'm ready to make that an actual prediction. And you all know how good my predictions are. But I already have predicted that Bieber will remain a star and make great music for years to come. He is still fulfilling that one.

Meanwhile, go on enjoying your lousy 3T Xer music. Go on knocking JB. You're missing out. And that's OK.

Originally Posted by JDFP

If the world ends on 12/21/12 I'll post something nice before it all goes down. Otherwise, keep waiting, Eric.

j.p.

A farewell JB concert plays as the world collapses into a black hole; or whatever the scenario du jour may be? Everyone sits around the final fire and alternates renditions of "Kumbaya" with a medley of JB offerings?

I would prefer R.E.M. End Of The World As We Know It but at that critical moment, a person may have to set aside their personal preferences, and make peace with JB.

Originally Posted by JDFP

If the world ends on 12/21/12 I'll post something nice before it all goes down. Otherwise, keep waiting, Eric.

j.p.

Well j.p., you said before you don't like him because you don't like pop music, it's not your cup of tea. But that can't be true, you even started a thread about it. A bit strange or disingenuous, I'd say. Or as I said, you mind is made up. A very common condition around here. Peoples minds are made up about everything. That's pretty much true of me as well as you. Oh well.....

Originally Posted by Wayneh56

A farewell JB concert plays as the world collapses into a black hole; or whatever the scenario du jour may be? Everyone sits around the final fire and alternates renditions of "Kumbaya" with a medley of JB offerings?

I would prefer R.E.M. End Of The World As We Know It but at that critical moment, a person may have to set aside their personal preferences, and make peace with JB.

I like the R.E.M. song. Or you could "party like it's 3012 tonight." (words from JB's latest single Beauty and a Beat in case you didn't know)

Just a reminder FWIW Wayne, "vocal style" seems to be the main consideration for you. I don't claim JB is the best pop vocalist necessarily (I can hear flaws in his delivery at times); but he brings out the feeling and beauty of the songs he sings. For me the main consideration is the quality of the songs, meaning primarily the melody, sound and arrangements. JB and his team just have no peer in that right now, in my well-considered opinion.

As the network news reporters said, "Bieber fever is alive and well!" and I'm glad. (and you guys can't deny it!)

Here's to all the haterz:

"This is for all the haters, who thought that maybe I was just here for 1 or 2 years, but I feel I'm going to be here for a very long time" Yeah, take that you guys!

(what he said after winning an AMA award)

Originally Posted by Eric the Green

Well j.p., you said before you don't like him because you don't like pop music, it's not your cup of tea. But that can't be true, you even started a thread about it. A bit strange or disingenuous, I'd say. Or as I said, you mind is made up. A very common condition around here. Peoples minds are made up about everything. That's pretty much true of me as well as you. Oh well.....

I did not start a thread about pop music - I started a thread about new 4T music - and I was very clear in my initial post that it is open for any genre of music. And it is true that I do not like the majority of pop music (New Wave excepted).

j.p.

Hey, as someone said, this is my temple to JB, so please when you enter, sprinkle yourself with holy water and show some respect.

As Oprah says, Justin Bieber seems to be everywhere these days. How do you suppose this happened?

http://youtu.be/fz8Qb2d_ruE


and here's the actual event:

http://youtu.be/5VyzalO5pHM

Originally Posted by JDFP

I did not start a thread about pop music - I started a thread about new 4T music - and I was very clear in my initial post that it is open for any genre of music. And it is true that I do not like the majority of pop music (New Wave excepted).

j.p.

Yeah, what kind of music has occupied that thread? And you have said you like most of it.

(edit: well, except of course for anything I post there)

He is always so fabulously entertaining when he does interviews. There are so many. A lot of times the host tries to embarrass him. One prankster to another.

http://youtu.be/3Vf0FO_C76w



David Letterman does the best job of making him feel uncomfortable. Of course, I'll post that if people want me to. But I doubt that will happen.

Originally Posted by Wayneh56

I did listen to JB; including every link you posted. I have tried to like him in order to better understand the Millennials. I simply do not like JB's vocal stylings. The more I hear them, in fact, the less I like them.

Yes, but Eric should thank you for all of those tracking cookies you have on your computer now.

Originally Posted by Eric

Actually Rags, yes, I am getting paid. L.A. Reid called me up, and gave me a Def Jam Records contract to post links to JB exclusively on The Fourth Turning website. And that even included clicks on the Ratt thread itself. In fact, he gave me an extra bonus just for having started the thread on my own.

But you know what, he looked at the results, and last month he cancelled the contract. It just did not result in any revenue for his company.

Yes. See how well my uraninite crystals work. Perhaps Badger will reconsider her position on woo-woo now. Notice that I never panned astrology , tarot cards, etc. I mean if I can get uraninite to work for me, then it stands to reason that other stuff would work for other. Oh, yeah, why didn't you make some sock puppets here? Just make different logins and have those click on the links. Faceplant has a bunch of those for gaming. If you're playing, say Cityville, you just get your sock puppets to gift each other and your own account.

Originally Posted by Eric

If you don't want to read this thread, don't click on it.

I think this was more of a case of curiosity on Dave's part. He came, he listened, he puked. But hey, you did get click(s) from Dave from the process.

Originally Posted by Wayne

That is the opposite of how it is supposed to work too. Theoretically, the more one listens, the more likely the song is to be internalized. That never happened with JB. His vocals annoy me and grate on my ears, even though you enjoy them.

Hmmmm. You're a Disco wave Boomer. Do y'all have woo-woo's like The Aquarians? Moi? Joneser outlier.

It's wonderful that you enjoy JB, and find a positive message in his music. Not everyone is going to feel that way, no matter how incomprehensible that may be to you.

Or as Eric has stated, this thread is both his temple and his money changer pit.

Give me some 3T Xer music anytime. I play 3T Xer music all of the time. And I am not an Xer.

FWIW, I like 2T Boomer music as well.

Originally Posted by Wayneh56

I did listen to JB; including every link you posted. I have tried to like him in order to better understand the Millennials. I simply do not like JB's vocal stylings. The more I hear them, in fact, the less I like them. That is the opposite of how it is supposed to work too. Theoretically, the more one listens, the more likely the song is to be internalized. That never happened with JB. His vocals annoy me and grate on my ears, even though you enjoy them.

It's wonderful that you enjoy JB, and find a positive message in his music. Not everyone is going to feel that way, no matter how incomprehensible that may be to you.

Give me some 3T Xer music anytime. I play 3T Xer music all of the time. And I am not an Xer.

Try Bruno Mars instead.

Originally Posted by Ragnarök_62

See how well my uraninite crystals work. Perhaps Badger will reconsider her position on woo-woo now. Notice that I never panned astrology , tarot cards, etc. I mean if I can get uraninite to work for me, then it stands to reason that other stuff would work for other. Oh, yeah, why didn't you make some sock puppets here? Just make different logins and have those click on the links. Faceplant has a bunch of those for gaming. If you're playing, say Cityville, you just get your sock puppets to gift each other and your own account....

Or as Eric has stated, this thread is both his temple and his money changer pit.

Not any more, remember? Mr. Reid cut off my receipts. Just not worth it to him.............