Well, The Rani's poke at JB got me fishing around the pop sites a bit, and I found this little goodie. Just for a little entertainment. Now you guys, don't you go voting in the poll. I want Justin to win!



Following in the steps of previous ‘Saturday Night Live’ hosts like Bruno Mars and Justin Timberlake, Maroon 5 frontman Adam Levine and Justin Bieber are the latest singers recruited for the sketch comedy series. Both Levine and Bieber will host and perform on ‘SNL’ soon, but which crooner are you most excited to see on TV?

Both of these fellas have plenty of experience in front of cameras and onstage, so it’ll be interesting to see which show is more enjoyable. While Bieber, who is set to host on Feb. 9, is used to performing in front of thousands of fans on the reg, Levine can also put on a commanding, arena-sized performance with ease. Additionally, both of the guys have done some serious acting for music videos, like M5′s ‘One More Night’ clip and Bieber’s ‘As Long as You Love Me’ mini-movie.

On the other hand, when it comes to face time on TV, will Levine’s home-court advantage help him out? The ‘One More Night’ crooner has gotten really used to the TV cameras thanks to his multi-season stint as a coach on ‘The Voice.’ While the NBC reality singing competition isn’t nearly as scripted as ‘SNL’ clearly is, judging from his educated but often entertaining critiques, we think Levine will be able to tickle our funny bones on ‘SNL’ when he hosts on Jan. 26.

But don’t let the Bieber’s lack of TV time (aside from performing at like, every event ever) fool you. This kid has shown off his acting chops before, and he certainly has displayed his great sense of humor in the past. Remember his appearance on ‘SNL’ last May, where he helped the show celebrate its 100th digital short? Or when Bieber punked Taylor Swift? That was ah-mazing. Starring in his very own biopic should’ve been practice enough!

So, whose monologue are you anticipating most? Who do you want to see dressed up in silly costumes and poking fun at themselves the most? Vote Adam or Justin for the best ‘SNL’ host below, and be sure to tune in to their respective broadcasts on Jan. 26 and Feb. 9 on NBC.

http://popcrush.com/adam-levine-vs-j...-readers-poll/

I still think Bieber's music is shit for the tween masses - but I sure do like his mom quite a bit more after deciding to read this article (as opposed to run away screaming as I normally do when I see the name "Bieber" mentioned):

http://music.yahoo.com/news/biebers-...010557675.html

Bieber's mom produces anti-abortion short film

LOS ANGELES (AP) — Justin Bieber's mother, Pattie Mallette, is an executive producer on an upcoming anti-abortion short film.
The makers of "Crescendo" hope to raise $10 million for pregnancy centers at screenings worldwide starting Feb. 28. Mallette herself will appear at some of these, said production company Movie to Movement on Friday.
The pop star's mother has written and spoken extensively about the addiction and abuse that led to her teenage pregnancy.
Mallette said in a statement she hopes her involvement with "Crescendo" will "encourage young women all over the world, just like me, to let them know that there is a place to go, people who will take care of you and a safe home to live in if you are pregnant and think you have nowhere else to turn."

j.p.

Originally Posted by Eric the Green

http://popcrush.com/adam-levine-vs-j...-readers-poll/

OMG, you have jumped the sharked on this one. Popcrush!

Anyway, my handy dandy mouse-bot is off voting for Adam.

http://autoclick-robot.en.softonic.com/download.

click on Adam, click on reload page, repeat a bunch of times. I'll be glad to toss a few thousand votes Adams way, just for you Eric. Popcrush? Sheesh, what a tweeny girly website. It deserves a bunch of robot induced clicks.

Holy crap, it looks like Justin is catching up in the vote, even in spite of you! He was only at 36% when I voted the first time; now it's almost 50-50!

Originally Posted by Eric the Green

Holy crap, it looks like Justin is catching up in the vote, even in spite of you! He was only at 36% when I voted the first time; now it's almost 50-50!

Oh, OK. I'll look into it sometime. I'm too busy using klik bots to do mundane stuff in Mafia Wars like , collect from properties, scan friends' walls for Maifa War parts, and fights. Faceplant did ban me from "liking" things. My bot liked too much stuff and I didn't know there was a limit to likes. My guess is that since all of my likes are Mafia Wars related and klik botted, Zuckerburb wasn't pleased. IOW, it's ok to like sponsored shit/*ads, but not ok to like things that bring no revenue.

*ads. Hell, I can't see these, Privoxy made them all go away.


Speaking of which, I wonder if Neil Howe is aware that his server is being used to serve up ads...?

http://www.fourthturning.com/forum/a...?albumid=11656

Adam is on tonight. I like him too, but can't wait for my boy! Saturday Night Live, Feb.9th

Maybe my favorite Justin TV appearance:

http://youtu.be/M0TFk_dN8lQ

Another icon to grace the walls of Eric the Green's virtual temple to the new king of pop.
His new Acoustic Believe album includes 3 new songs!

Justin Bieber's 'Acoustic' Could Make History... Twice
ARTICLESNEWS
By Keith Caulfield | January 26, 2013 4:08 PM EST



If Justin Bieber's "Believe Acoustic" reaches No. 1 on the Billboard 200, it will mark two historic achievements for the singer/songwriter.

First, he'll be the only artist in history to have five No. 1 albums before turning 19. Presently, both he and Miley Cyrus are tied with four chart-toppers at such a young age. Cyrus, now 20, logged her so-far quartet of No. 1s between 2006 and 2009. Her last No. 1-the Hannah Montana: The Movie soundtrack-hit the top of the chart dated May 2, 2009, when she was 16 years and five months old.

Second, Bieber may become just the 10th act to score a No. 1 album in four consecutive years.

In 2010, he topped the list with My World 2.0 and followed that in 2011 with Never Say Never: The Remixes (EP) and Under the Mistletoe. Last year, he debuted at No. 1 with Believe.

Jay-Z has the longest streak of consecutive years with No. 1 albums-seven. Between 1998 and 2004, he tallied at least one chart-topper. In 2004, he doubled up, scoring leaders with both Unfinished Business (with R. Kelly) and MTV Ultimate Mash-Ups Presents: Collision Course (with Linkin Park).

Aside from Jay-Z, the other acts with No. 1 albums in four (or more) years in a row are: the Beatles (six years, 1965-70) Paul McCartney/Wings (five, 1973-77), Herb Alpert & the Tijuana Brass (four, 1965-68), Garth Brooks (four, 1991-94), Chicago (four, 1972-75), Elton John (four, 1972-75), the Rolling Stones (four, 1971-74) and Cyrus (four, 2006-09).

Bieber graces the cover of this week's Billboard magazine in what is the lone major interview he's done for the new album. Buy the issue here -- also on the iPad -- and return to Billboard.com on Monday to read the exclusive cover story and get a first listen of a track from the record.




It looks like Maroon 5 (featuring Adam Levine) also has a new album out.

Eric, this fanboying coming from you is really really weird to me. It's almost like how your female peers reacted to their favorite bands. This thread is like entering The Twilight Zone. Fanboy all you want, but I'm just telling you this so you can get an outside perspective of this.

~Chas'88

Originally Posted by Chas'88

Eric, this fanboying coming from you is really really weird to me. It's almost like how your female peers reacted to their favorite bands. This thread is like entering The Twilight Zone. Fanboy all you want, but I'm just telling you this so you can get an outside perspective of this.

~Chas'88

And saying that here is something new to me? come on, you know better than that.

Maybe I'm a bit obsessed; on the other hand, maybe he's filling a vacuum these days. It's nice that there is someone in the public entertainment media that I like for a change.

Listen to his music with discerning ears, and you may hear differently than you thought. I'm not saying everyone will like his music, and that people don't have different tastes, different abilities and interests, or that his music does not have its faults, and so on. But people here, and other Justin-knockers and haterz, often miss out because they prejudge his music based on how old he is, who his fans are, and how high-pitched his voice is. These things are just discrimination and prejudice, and they have nothing to do with the quality of his music. I like him because his music is good, and his personality and style is entertaining and inspiring. That he's so young just adds even more to my appreciation.

The "outside perspective" is nothing new to me, since I am not a fan of most teenage or twenty-age pop music. It is getting better now though, partly indeed due to the influence of JB. So now I have an inside perspective too. What is amazing is the quality of his songs. I like every one of them. They have genuine musical content, which is rare in pop music today. That is as amazing to me to say, as it is weird for you and others to hear it from me.

I can post his music here and invite people to listen. I can lead a horse to water but not make him drink. If people don't drink, that's not on me. But I confess, as amazed as I am at the quality of JB's songs, I am equally amazed at how many people can't hear it.

But I notice that many people posted comments on you tube videos of his more-recent songs, or on " Pray ," saying they have changed their mind about him. So it seems it IS possible for people to change their minds about him, but it appears it is impossible for people here to change their mind about him because of what I say. I can always hope there are some new people here who may drop in, who are more open minded.

Though older people frequently don't like JB, many who don't are guys who are only in their 20s (I believe that applies to you). From my point of view though, someone in their 20s is not much older than someone in their late teens. So what's the fuss by people in their 20s, against people in their teens? Agewise, you are not so far removed from all of JB's screaming teenage girl fans.

And as I said, maybe they are right about him, and you guys are wrong! (I think so!) Even so, I don't always have the same favorite JB songs as they do.

I bet you didn't even watch the Chelsea Lately clip above, did you? Now come on, that's pretty fun.

Yellow Raincoat

very good new song.

Entire Believe Acoustic album posted here

I like this version of Boyfriend better than the original.

It was neat that, unlike in the other tracks, he played the piano along with singing "Be Alright." That was neat, I thought, since that's what I did.

But this live version of Fall is better than the one on the new album:

You can't fly unless you let yourself Fall

I missed his appearance on Jimmy Fallon, with whom he has a close relationship, so it's always fun. But just posted, though not the best reproduction:

http://youtu.be/OGoIRzaN-R4

Meanwhile, Diane Sawyer on the ABC Network News tonight reported on how Justin Bieber is to be the 1st person under 18 to have 5 #1 albums on Billboard.

Well I guess I'm not the only one in the "Twilight Zone," having also reported on it above. Diane is there too, I guess, Chas?

The best of the Bieber proteges comes up with another gooddie:

http://youtu.be/Po3h5nObU50

(well, pretty good)

Interesting comment on Pray:

lg15flat 1 day ago
I don't like Justin Beiber's songs. However I believe this kid has a good heart & genuinely wants 2 do good, yet is controlled by a sickening marketing machine that controls every aspect of his life. His songs have a very shallow industrialized-pop sound 2 them. HOWEVER, this song of his is epic in its depth & meaning & I would even go so far as 2 say that this song is the deepest social-themed song produced since "We are the World". Ironically no one sings it better than Justin Beiber.

Obviously I disagree with his comments about the marketing machine and the pop sound of his songs (and the misspelling of his name), but it represents what a lot of folks think; and he's still able to get it just right about his greatest song.

Some people have now made some comments about how things died or went downhill from 1973 (The Problems of this Crisis... on Politics and Economics). I was just thinking, coincidentally, about this song being the best IMO in all that time, since 1973 (Quadrophenia by The Who came out that year, the greatest rock album; the summation of the previous 10 years).

Alex Goot is the best cover artist. This is his version of Beauty and a Beat:

http://youtu.be/9wqpfFI3EVE

JB's great SNL monologue

http://youtu.be/ULKAZzi2CTs


Another good Bieber song. Very romantic ballad.

Great piano part from Dan Kanter. Finale from his new album

http://youtu.be/AsPV0v_O0jw

There's nothing today like JB

From Jeopardy's Tournament of Champions, I gleaned some info for this little quiz for you.


The most searched-for musician on BING in 2012.

GUESS WHO?


The second-most searched for musician on BING in 2012.

GUESS WHO?

Nobody guessed. Well #1 was you know who, and #2 was someone who died.

Meanwhile, JB scored a #1 in a new field this week:

Justin Bieber notches his first Dance/Club Play Songs No. 1, as "Beauty and a Beat" rises 2-1. He previously charted on the ranking with the first two singles from his album "Believe": "Boyfriend" rose to No. 12 and "As Long as You Love Me," featuring Big Sean, reached No. 13. Nicki Minaj, the featured vocalist on "Beauty," collects her fourth No. 1, all tallied within the past year.

http://www.billboard.com/articles/co...ay-songs-chart

This interview is pretty cool and amusing.

http://youtu.be/-9D6JivT85A

These next posts are somewhat in reference to Kepi's statement on the 1920s/1990s thread:

@ Eric - So I took a look at Justin Beiber's production staff, just to see what I saw... And you realize that the music is mostly 3Ters, right? I mean, the Executive Producer is Usher. Seriously? Usher? And you're telling me this is 4T brilliance? But it doesn't end there. Most of the production credits on his album go right to folks who made the music for Mariah Carey, Mary J. Blige, Tony Braxton, TLC, Snoop Doggy Dogg, Boyz II Men, Busta Rhymes, Jennifer Lopez, Jay-Z, Kanye West, Brandy, Destiny's Child...

The list goes on and on. Really the people producing Beiber are, as I thought, all 3T pop producers with a few hip-hop producers thrown in. The songs are written by people who did 3T pop at the height of the 3T, they're played by people who did 3T pop at the height of 3T pop, and musically... It's 3T pop. There is nothing in there that wasn't found in 3T pop...

Believe is a very under-rated album. It was certainly the best of the year 2012, and contained some of the best songs of the year. It is his best album yet, although his previous albums were almost as good. It is full of good songs. The 3 songs he released as singles were good or pretty good, but they were not the best on the album-- the ones that do the most to point to my claim for Bieber as a harbinger of better things to come in pop. The best three songs on Believe were these two anthems:

Believe (the title track)
All Around the World

and this acoustic ballad:
Be Alright my favorite song of the album

The first two were co-written and produced by The Messengers, who also share with Bieber in the credits for Pray. They did not produce or compose for any of the artists Kepi mentioned; not even one. Nolan Lambroza is also listed; he is totally 4T. As for Be Alright, only Bieber and his contemporary accompanist Dan Kanter have any credit for it.

Grammy-winner Rodney Jerkins aka Darkchild, credited as a producer on Bieber's hit As Long As You Love Me, is listed on wikipedia as producer for: Joe, Toni Braxton, Lindsay Lohan, Will Smith, Keyshia Cole, Monica, Brandy Norwood, Michael Jackson, Cher, Jessica Simpson, Jennifer Lopez, Aaliyah, Britney Spears, Mary Mary, The Black Eyed Peas, Destiny's Child, Spice Girls, TLC, Janet Jackson, Danity Kane, Beyoncé, Linda Király, Lady Gaga, Cascada, Tamia, Pussycat Dolls, Whitney Houston, Natasha Bedingfield, Mary J. Blige, Lionel Richie, JYJ, Wonder Girls, Austin Brown, Kanye West, Katy Perry, Utada Hikaru, Brian McKnight, PLΛTINUM and LMFAO.[5][7]

He's currently producing songs for Mariah Carey, Leona Lewis, Justin Bieber, JLS, Nelly Furtado and The Saturdays forthcoming albums. Jerkins was a music producer and mentor on season 10 of American Idol.[8]

So Kepi got that one right, more or less. Andre Lindal is also a producer on that track, but he is totally 4T. Acc. to wikipedia, "Andre Lindal (born February 19, 1977) is a Norwegian songwriter, record producer and musician from Oslo, now based in Los Angeles. He works with mega producer Rodney Jerkins, at Darkchild studios, and with a range of popular artists, including Justin Bieber, Kelly Clarkson, Nelly Furtado and Chris Medina.[1] In 2011, he received a Grammy nomination for his work with Monica."

Producer and songwriter Max Martin is credited among others with Beauty and a Beat, Bieber's latest hit single from Believe.

From wikipedia:

Martin Karl Sandberg (born February 26, 1971), known professionally as Max Martin, is a Swedish music producer and songwriter. He broke through as a producer and songwriter in the mid-1990s after crafting a string of hits for pop artists like Ace of Base, E-Type, the Backstreet Boys, Britney Spears, 'N Sync and Robyn. Some of his earlier hits include "Quit Playing Games (With My Heart)", "...Baby One More Time", and "It's My Life".

His trademark during the second half of the 1990s and the early 2000s was a danceable, keyboard-laden pop sound that blended music styles such as funk, heavy metal and europop. However, with Kelly Clarkson's 2004 hit "Since U Been Gone", Martin stepped back into the spotlight after reinventing himself with a heavier, rock-tinged sound.

Since 2008, he has written and co-written 13 number-one hits, including "So What" by Pink, "I Kissed a Girl" and "Part of Me" by Katy Perry, and "My Life Would Suck Without You" by Kelly Clarkson. Since 2010, he has co-written ten top-10 singles, including "Dynamite" by Taio Cruz, "DJ Got Us Fallin' in Love" by Usher, "Whataya Want From Me" by Adam Lambert, "F**kin' Perfect" by Pink, "Hold It Against Me" by Britney Spears and the most recent "We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together" and "I Knew You Were Trouble" by Taylor Swift which become a worldwide success and "One More Night" by Maroon 5.

I don't see any names Kepi mentioned here either except Usher, and his impact seems to be greatest now that the 4T has begun. Some good songs are listed there. Zedd is also listed on this song, and he is totally 4T.

Most of the "3T producers" Kepi mentioned are for hip-hop, which is a style that I don't see much hope for in the 4T as far as artistic musical brilliance is concerned, and is only a "guest feature" on Bieber's records.

Another point is that rock and pop have had producers, co-writers and studio musicians going back all the way through history. That has always been true and will remain true. Music often is not a solo production. At its best, it is an art, but like architecture it can involve many people in each creation. A few more musings in my next post.

Can pop stars aspire to be "artists?"

Bieber so far says he aspires to be "an entertainer." That's not exactly the same as being an "artist," as Bob Dylan once entitled himself "I'm a poet, I know it; hope I don't blow it."

But the creative efforts of the "Bieber musical-industrial complex" might one day lead him in that direction, as it led the Beatles from being pop sensations to the best creative artists in music in their time.

Are there other pop stars who might aspire to be "artists?" Is there hope for an artistic turn in society led by our pop stars? It seems a vain hope.

But Maroon 5 and Fun. have gotten recognition this year for their albums Overexposed and Some Nights. They seem to be moving in that direction. The mega #1 hit One More Night, which shares a composer with Bieber's Beauty and a Beat, has an especially notable, beautiful counterpoint development at the end, which approaches the level attained on Pray by Bieber and The Messengers (click on my siggie to hear that).

Is ART something that people even aspire to anymore in America or modern materialist culture? That is always a question. The pragmatic Xer folks here may not think so. What good does art do for anyone? Does it harmonize peoples' feelings and behavior, or make people smarter? Science seems unclear on this, as it is on Emoto's experiments with water. It is easy to knock such ideas, but the knockers rarely do any experiments of their own. There are a number of musicians now who supposedly make music that is intended to be healthy for you. My opinion is that unless this "healing music" is artistic, then it is rather pointless.

Great art and music are very meaningful and important, but how do you prove such a thing? People are drawn to it, and great civilizations make it and support it. Tourism is a huge industry for countries that have it. Our civilization, relatively speaking, does not. It settles for "entertainment." It may be why Americans are so crude and crass. People like kinser here say music is only significant if it is political. The Soviets and the Nazis made use of art that way, as propaganda. It worked, for a while; but nobody claims these "social realism" productions are great art.

Art is created for its own sake, but that does not mean it does not have great side effects. Here's one article I found on this:
http://www.edutopia.org/arts-music-c...ld-development

And another:
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/27/bo...gugg.html?_r=0

According to this article from Scientific American:
http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/...-hand-in-hand/

In June, the U.S. House of Representatives proposed significant funding cuts to the National Endowment for the Arts. Schools nationwide are eschewing art programs to instead focus on teach-to-the-test courses catered to math and reading. The problem here is that a narrow focus on testing reinforces narrow-minded thinking. Young Americans are being educated out of creativity.

By teaching the arts, we can have our cake and eat it, too. In 2008, the DANA Arts and Cognition Consortium, a philanthropic organization that supports brain research, assembled scientists from seven different universities to study whether the arts affect other areas of learning. Several studies from the report correlated training in the arts to improvements in math and reading scores, while others showed that arts boost attention, cognition, working memory, and reading fluency.

Clemency Burton-Hill: why Justin Bieber is like Mozart
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/news...ke-Mozart.html

Clemency Burton-Hill has likened Bieber's hit song Baby to Mozart's La Clemenza de Tito and Beethoven's The Eroica
By Alice Philipson 11:40AM GMT 10 Mar 2013

Some say he represents the very worst of manufactured teenage pop music. Others say his scraps with paparazzi photographers and late arrivals to concerts are brattish.

But Clemency Burton-Hill, the actress and violinist, has said the work of Justin Bieber, the Canadian singer beloved of pubescent women, is comparable to that of Mozart and Beethoven.

She has likened Bieber's hit song Baby to Mozart's La Clemenza de Tito and Beethoven's The Eroica. The secret to their greatness, she said, is they share the key of E-flat major.

She said: "Justin Bieber is in incredibly good company in writing his song in E-flat major. Mozart uses it all the time, in La Clemenza de Tito and in Figaro. Beethoven's amazing symphony the Eroica is in E-flat major.

"It's a very accessible key but it's also rather heroic. That is offset with Justin Bieber's voice – it works incredibly well – and what he's singing about seems to work particularly well with that.

"I'm not raving about this song but it is a lot more than just the pre-packaged formulaic pop that you might expect it to be."

She said his use of the 'doo-wop' chord, which became popular in the 1950s, takes his music "right back into the heart of classical music".

"What Bieber and his very clever writing team did with that song [Baby] is use certain elements that are rather prescribed and formulaic in pop songs ... but they've done it in a slightly smarter way.

"The chord progressions that he uses actually go right back into the heart of classical music. The chord really came to prominence in the 50s – it's known as the doo-wop chord progression – but it was used by the likes of Mozart a lot.

"It's very hard to say why a certain chord progression acts on us in the way that it does but the descending bass line definitely has something to do with it. It drops in those thirds until it moves up a step, back to the dominant chord.

"That little wink to 1950s do-wop is something that makes it quite effective."

Bieber's London tour has been shrouded in controversy this week after he turned up two hours late to a concert at the O2 arena on Monday night.

He then suffered a health scare during his Thursday show as he told the crowd he was "light of breath". He was rushed to hospital but released the next day.

However, Bieber's week hit a new low on Friday after he was seen lashing out at a member of the press as he climbed into his waiting car outside his Park Lane hotel. He had to be restrained by his bodyguards.

Miss Burton-Hill presents a show on BBC Radio 3 and hosted the BBC Young Musician competition, as well as appearing in dramas Midsomer Murders and Party Animals.

Listen for yourself: Does his use of E-flat major place Justin Bieber among the greats?

http://youtu.be/Fj8EHAo9gqY (Mozart)

http://youtu.be/lDGPb86o1FA (Beethoven)

http://youtu.be/kffacxfA7G4 (Bieber)

Myself, hearing the last parts of Pray, (@2m56s) I find it hard to keep track of just how many motifs are combined in counterpoint. It could be five, or even more. In that case, it compares to the last parts of the Mozart Jupiter Symphony Finale (@8m9s), in which five themes developed throughout the movement are combined in a short fugue. Woody Allen suggested that this fugue in the Jupiter Symphony finale "proved the existence of God," because only God could follow 5 themes at once. A worthy "God" to whom to "pray," indeed

I like the new Millennial musicians so much more than the last 30 years of Gen X and the late Boom. I like following them and appreciating their potential. This JB is older than the famous one, born May 18 1986 (Taurus), just a month and a half older than Adam Young (Owl City), but looks younger than him. I'm not enthralled, but like the others he has potential. Well, he certainly has the looks too; maybe because he was a competitive tennis player. As he explains, he's no superman, but this is likely his best song; an early one he wrote from his days on My Space (where Owl City started too). Taureans are good singers, and he certainly is. And his videos are well done.

http://youtu.be/otx0Bnru0dY



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Brooks_(singer)

EDIT. I thought it was interesting that now I have posted here two young singers named Brooks (the other is Tae Brooks, a young singer who did a cover of Pray and other Justin Bieber songs, among others). So what's the significance of that, I wondered? Well of course, in German, the name Bach means brook. Budding Bachs?

EDIT: Well after hearing this one linked below, maybe I AM getting enthralled. Certainly one of the best songs of our 4T so far, it has a clear similarity to Pray by the other JB (even 4 of the same words, and the ones in my siggie to boot!).
http://youtu.be/bEvb12LO_lw
I had a hunch about this guy when I wrote this post; now he's proved it.
This song has some connection with the Grey's Anatomy TV show.

Wow, I guess the similarity to Pray is no accident. Acc. to wikipedia:

Brooks has been involved with different charity works and attributes his desire to help to his Christian faith.[4] This charity work includes the Invisible Children Organization,[31] going to Africa with his father when he was 19 for Habitat For Humanity[8][23] and then to China in 2011 with the Bring Me Hope Foundation.

http://www.astrotheme.com/astrology/Justin_Bieber



I'll probably be transferring this thread to my own blog one of these days; don't worry. But for now, here's Justin Bieber's horoscope! (above)

Being born under Uranus conjunct Neptune, and Pluto conj the Ascendant in Scorpio, Bieber is an artist with a connection to the deeper levels of consciousness, and an awakener of humanity. Uranus conjunct Neptune in Capricorn, in the 2nd house of finances and talents, and in aspect to Venus, shows his ability to amass and manage a fortune and become a musical mogul and empire builder.

He is a Sun-Pisces, with Venus and Saturn also in Pisces. Venus is exalted in that sign. Pisces is a sign of compassion and spirituality, which is reflected in his generous donations to charity and in his best song "Pray," as well as being a declared and faithful Christian, and a writer or singer of some motivational spiritual songs, and in an interest in helping people awaken to their gifts and potentials. Many planets in the 3rd house indicate his primary desire to learn, travel, communicate, educate and use his voice (need I mention his amazing use of social media?).

Pluto in Scorpio rising leaves no doubt about his powerful, self-directed personality and his ability to transform himself, as well as his determination to succeed ("Never Say Never" is his motto, his top selling biographical movie, and his second most-viewed song on you tube).

Moon in Libra in the 11th house shows his appeal to the opposite sex and his prominence as an entertainer. However, Sun and Venus near the nadir of his chart shows his preference to keep and stay within a close circle of family and team members, and his dedication to his family. Libra and Pisces give him the tendency to be seen by young critics as a "girly" or supposedly effeminate man in the public eye; although the Pluto in Scorpio rising speaks for itself as a symbol of enormous personal power and energy. Few entertainers work harder and longer. Saturn, Mars and Mercury all form potent squares to Pluto as well, confirming this indication, as well as signalling some tendency to be brash or "brattish" and to get involved in fights and violence, for which he should be on guard. Sun conjunct Saturn shows obstacles overcome, especially the problem of an absent father, about which he wrote one of his first songs.

His close Mercury-Mars conjunction in Aquarius shows his very quick wit, his brilliant and inventive mind (even if reflected more in street smarts and in his art rather than academic studies), and his athletic skill and speed (he is an expert in many sports, and played competitive hockey, as well as being a great dancer on stage). All this is further magnified by the close trine of Mars and Mercury to his Moon in Libra, indicating his gift of poise, balance and grace. These positions also indicate his great ability to work with others.

Venus in Pisces is in trine to Jupiter, which is another indication of this grace and artistry, as well as his generosity, pleasant personality and an indulgent love of the limelight. Venus and the Moon are both closely aspected to Uranus and Neptune, expanding his charisma as well as his transcendent and ingenious musical abilities. The chart truly confirms the talents and gifts that have made him famous.

The thing about Justin Bieber is that he is getting "picked on" so often that some people are no doubt tempted to reflexively empathize with him.