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Post#751 at 08-06-2015 07:28 PM by Eric the Green [at San Jose CA joined Jul 2001 #posts 22,504]
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Boy, I guess I don't even get to see the clown car debate. Just like Republicans, after all. You have to pay to watch it! I don't even see it broadcast on our local Fox channel.

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Post#752 at 08-06-2015 08:35 PM by Eric the Green [at San Jose CA joined Jul 2001 #posts 22,504]
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Wow, Christie is already trying to top Trump, according to Daily Kos:

Teachers deserve “a punch in the face.”

At least that’s what New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie thinks.

In a recent interview, Christie threatened violence against teachers, and called their unions “the single most destructive force in public education.”

Tell Chris Christie that bullying and violence have no place in our classrooms or our communities, and demand an apology.

Teachers unions aren’t some faceless entity—teachers unions are made up of individual teachers, women and men who go to work every day to help children succeed.

We need leaders who support educators and collaborate with our teachers, not people who threaten violence to score cheap political points.

Please sign now: Chris Christie must apologize for threatening violence against teachers.

Keep Fighting,
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Post#753 at 08-06-2015 08:43 PM by Eric the Green [at San Jose CA joined Jul 2001 #posts 22,504]
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Oooh, I thought I was the only one. Moody's also predicted the correct electoral vote in 2012. Now Moody predicts the Democrats will barely win in 2016.

Moody's Analytics: Democrat Will Win White House
By Greg Richter | Wednesday, 05 Aug 2015 11:07 PM

A Democrat will win the presidency – though just barely – in 2016, according to an analysis by Moody's Analytics.

Moody's has correctly forecast every presidential election since 1980, the year it started, The Hill notes. In 2012, Moody's predicted President Barack Obama's exact number of electoral votes at 332.

The current model says the Democratic nominee will get 270 electoral votes – the exact number needed to win – while the Republican will fall just short of the magic number with 268. Moody's bases its prediction on the economic and political conditions in each state.

Moody's will update it's model every month as the November 2016 general election approaches.

Income growth in the two years prior to an election is the biggest determining factor, The Hill reported, though the incumbent president's approval rating also plays a role.

Swing states get about half of the votes, and those states in the 2016 election will be Colorado, Florida, Ohio, Virginia, Iowa, New Hampshire, Nevada, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin, The Hill noted.


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Post#754 at 08-06-2015 08:54 PM by XYMOX_4AD_84 [at joined Nov 2012 #posts 3,073]
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Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Green View Post
Oooh, I thought I was the only one. Moody's also predicted the correct electoral vote in 2012. Now Moody predicts the Democrats will barely win in 2016.

Moody's Analytics: Democrat Will Win White House
By Greg Richter | Wednesday, 05 Aug 2015 11:07 PM

A Democrat will win the presidency – though just barely – in 2016, according to an analysis by Moody's Analytics.

Moody's has correctly forecast every presidential election since 1980, the year it started, The Hill notes. In 2012, Moody's predicted President Barack Obama's exact number of electoral votes at 332.

The current model says the Democratic nominee will get 270 electoral votes – the exact number needed to win – while the Republican will fall just short of the magic number with 268. Moody's bases its prediction on the economic and political conditions in each state.

Moody's will update it's model every month as the November 2016 general election approaches.

Income growth in the two years prior to an election is the biggest determining factor, The Hill reported, though the incumbent president's approval rating also plays a role.

Swing states get about half of the votes, and those states in the 2016 election will be Colorado, Florida, Ohio, Virginia, Iowa, New Hampshire, Nevada, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin, The Hill noted.


Read Latest Breaking News from Newsmax.com http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/Mood...#ixzz3i5LWy0w0
Possibly similar to 2000 but this time the Dem wins. I find that believable. Of course only a minor shift due to the inevitable clown car antics on the GOP side could enhance the Dem margin come election day.







Post#755 at 08-06-2015 10:28 PM by Bronco80 [at Boise joined Nov 2013 #posts 964]
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Out of all of these clowns, Huckabee has always pissed me off the most. That was confirmed when he took a position on abortion (that the 5th and 14th Amendments expand to the unborn) that would put him well to the right of even Antonin Scalia.







Post#756 at 08-06-2015 11:23 PM by Eric the Green [at San Jose CA joined Jul 2001 #posts 22,504]
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Former governor of Virginia Jim Gilmore is the latest Republican to enter the race. My tradition here is to look at each candidate according to the planetary aspects in his or her horoscope that have been in the charts of previous candidates up to and including the year 2000; which ones were in the charts of those who won (or were not in the charts who lost), and which ones were in the charts of those who lost (or weren't in the charts who won). Jim was born on the same day as myself, by GMT time. His score is 10-12. I don't give him great chances.



He likes to reduce taxes, though not in the irrational way of folks like Cain and Carson. He is good on education, and supported MLK day and diversity. He passed restrictions on abortion in VA.

Gilmore is considered a conservative. He is the President & CEO of the Free Congress Foundation, a conservative think tank which was founded by Paul Weyrich. Gilmore has also served as Chairman of the National Council on Readiness & Preparedness, a homeland security program...
He is also on the Board of Directors of the National Rifle Association and is a political commentator on Fox News.
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Post#757 at 08-06-2015 11:45 PM by playwrite [at NYC joined Jul 2005 #posts 10,443]
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post-debate thoughts

From a smart establishment GOP standpoint, there was no doubt that a Kasich/Rubio ticket could be a Clinton killer. Given the electoral college importance of Ohio/Florida that is admittedly scary.

However, from the 20% GOP crazies, Trump is likely still the man. But even there, Kasich throw out the welcome mat by stroking Trump.

If Bush didn't have the huge war chest, I believe it would already be over for him. He better step up in the next couple debates.

I think it is over for Paul, Christie, Carson, Walker, HucknJesus and Cruz. Paul will probable jump first so that he can run better for his Senate sea.

Now I need to go watch a marathon of the 3 Stooges to allow my brain to recover from that assault of low intelligent GOP salad toss!
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I'd buy a slim Democratic victory in 2016. I'd also believe in that new guy's slim chances of making it to the nomination, without recourse to astrology.

I watched the main Republican debate, and have some thoughts.

Didn't really think Ben Carson belonged on the stage after his first couple of responses. I hear he's good at being a neurosurgeon, maybe he should stick to that. Maybe give some funny talks at faculty dinners, but that's about it.

The Huckabee comment on abortion was ridiculous, and clearly not within the remit of the executive office. Had some funny lines, am confident he'll get his show renewed with Fox after he has his fun.

Donald Trump did not really demonstrate anything to suggest that he is capable of being anything more than a protest candidate. So no big surprise there.

Rand Paul is but a pallid shadow of his father. With his fundraising and campaign management problems, don't see a lot of future in his candidacy.

Ted Cruz had some clever answers, but didn't seem like he could appeal beyond his base.

Chris Cristie didn't do anything to fix his flailing candidacy, and his brief spat with Paul did neither of them any favors.

Kasich did well.

Marco Rubio did very well, was polished, articulate, and charming. He'll make a great Republican VP candidate. Don't think either side is ready to elect a Republican Obama just yet.

I've finally seen it for myself. Walker is a goober. He's been coached well recently, he made no real errors, but it's clear that he's a lightweight on the subject of policy, particularly foreign. And everytime the camera was focused on Carson you could see Walker nodding stupidly in the background.

Bush did well, made no real errors, defended himself well on things that could have tripped him up, like Common Core. Still has that name, and has far too much of a family resemblance to his brother and father.

Overall, much less clownish than 2012, with a lot less infighting too. If they could just start paring down to the core candidates and getting rid of the losers it would be better for them.







Post#759 at 08-07-2015 12:14 AM by Eric the Green [at San Jose CA joined Jul 2001 #posts 22,504]
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Republican candidate horoscope scores:

George Pataki 11-8
Jim Gilmore 10-12
Donald Trump 15-4
Carly Fiorina 13-10
Lindsay Graham 2-3
Ben Carson 4-6
John Kasich 7-15
Scott Walker 6-10
Jeb Bush 16-6
Chris Christie 16-15
Mike Huckabee 6-6
Rick Santorum 7-7
Marco Rubio 17-12
Bobby Jindal 13-14
Rick Perry 9-5
Ted Cruz 4-6
Rand Paul 12-8
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I'd like to amend that, slightly. Bush did not do poorly, he avoided shooting himself in the foot, which given his war chest is all he really needed to do. He still has the charisma of a wet sock, and I have no desire to see him become president, both as a person and because I don't think we need 3 members of the same family in the White House in so many decades. A Kasich/Rubio ticket, on the other hand, I could see myself voting for.







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"He still has the charisma of a wet sock"

THAT much, eh
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"He still has the charisma of a wet sock"

THAT much, eh
To be fair, perhaps a very expensive wet sock.







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Quote Originally Posted by B Butler View Post
To be fair, perhaps a very expensive wet sock.
Funny, I was told by my running coach that I should buy an expensive sock to avoid moisture.

Oh well.

Kasich has a very low score in my system. He seems maybe the most reasonable Republican candidate. But if the chart is correct, his tongue is too sharp, and he's too emotionally unstable to do well in tense or uncertain moments. Being an earthy Taurus with Capricorn Moon could offset this, but the potential for a meltdown is there.

Tough luck for the GOP, considering the electoral advantages of a Kasich-Rubio ticket.
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Funny, I was told by my running coach that I should buy an expensive sock to avoid moisture.
You might even splurge and get two!







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Trump Still Dominates, But GOP Field Shakes Out
By Christopher Ruddy | Thursday, 06 Aug 2015 11:33 PM

Donald Trump dominated the debate. Trump fended off overly hostile "how often do you beat your wife" questions from the hosts. Disappointing performance from the hosts who did not pursue others with such questions!

Trump is such a powerful TV personality, he still shined and reinforced the image that he is the "can do" and "tough" candidate who can face the challenges of the presidency.

With high expectations, Jeb Bush fell short in this forum. Jeb is not comfortable as a TV personality. He held his own, but several other candidates did better. He needed to demonstrate he, in some way, is a superior candidate from not only than the others but his brother George. He didn't do that.

Chris Christie positioned himself well as the "establishment" candidate if Bush falters. He seemed more "in charge" and more passionate about his plans to fix the country.

Kasich came on strong. His claim to Ohio's success and the GOP's balance budgets in the 1990s were strong. But he is out of step with the base on social and welfare issues. Big problem.

Rubio helped his image and did better than expected. He also rises from this.

Scott Walker did fine. Didn’t surprise either way, but remains the acceptable candidate by all sides.

Ted Cruz reinforced his "consistent conservative" label, and was intent in scoring points with the Christian right, key to winning Iowa.

It was clear that Ben Carson was Mr. Nice Guy. He is principled and decent. He didn't stand out this time, but like Herman Cain, he may rise to the top as the GOP fight gets messy down the road.

Rand Paul emphasized he was a "different" Republican. Too different for the GOP to embrace, but he made some excellent points and told some hard truths.

Mike Huckabee remains an incredible communicator. His support of Social Security and Medicare are probably the smartest thing any Republican can do. If Huckabee had a strong campaign organization he could be in top tier.


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Donald Trump dominated the debate. Trump fended off overly hostile "how often do you beat your wife" questions from the hosts. Disappointing performance from the hosts who did not pursue others with such questions!

Trump is such a powerful TV personality, he still shined and reinforced the image that he is the "can do" and "tough" candidate who can face the challenges of the presidency.
Yes, the hosts were playing hardball with Trump, but Trump is Trump. Would he want softballs? Still I think he was the only big looser last night, maybe not with his own followers who expect grumpy and arrogant, but he came across grumpy and arrogant.

None of them convinced me to vote Republican and none of them greatly stood out to me, but they pushed their points reasonably well. For the most part I'd agree with Ruddy's evaluations.

The other sense I got was a more vital and energetic exchange than usual all around. This wasn't as dull as a lot of debates. In other seasons there seems to be a desire to avoid the mistake that will get you knocked out of the race. This time a lot of them were swinging for the fences to break out of the pack and not look too pale on the same stage as Trump. I don't think anything got over the fence. A lot of them did well, at least if you can stomach red world views, but I don't see a big winner. The exception was Jeb Bush who did seem to be avoiding mistakes, playing it careful. Like Hillary he has name recognition and a big war chest. He might not think he needs to push at this point. Maybe not, but perhaps he should push just a bit just for practice?
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John Kasich was well prepared. Watch the opinion polls to see if he gets an uptick. He gets one in the next couple of weeks or he is through.

Donald Trump? I question his basic sanity. He is so awful that I might suspect that he is a Democratic mole -- except that I don't see the Democrats setting up moles. Democrats have no equivalent of Karl Rogue.

Ben Carson demonstrated above all else why prior political experience is essential to being a competent President.

Mike Huckabee showed himself a religious nut with at most a regional appeal. He could be the New Barry Goldwater if nominated.

Chris Christie showed why he seemed the most promising Republican candidate a year or so ago.

Jeb Bush -- a washout under the bright lights of the media.

Scott Walker showed exactly what he is -- a Koch puppet.
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Newsmax in briefs (if not wet socks)

Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Green View Post
Trump Still Dominates, But GOP Field Shakes Out
By Christopher Ruddy | Thursday, 06 Aug 2015 11:33 PM

Donald Trump dominated the debate. Trump fended off overly hostile "how often do you beat your wife" questions from the hosts. Disappointing performance from the hosts who did not pursue others with such questions!

Trump is such a powerful TV personality, he still shined and reinforced the image that he is the "can do" and "tough" candidate who can face the challenges of the presidency.

With high expectations, Jeb Bush fell short in this forum. Jeb is not comfortable as a TV personality. He held his own, but several other candidates did better. He needed to demonstrate he, in some way, is a superior candidate from not only than the others but his brother George. He didn't do that.

Chris Christie positioned himself well as the "establishment" candidate if Bush falters. He seemed more "in charge" and more passionate about his plans to fix the country.

Kasich came on strong. His claim to Ohio's success and the GOP's balance budgets in the 1990s were strong. But he is out of step with the base on social and welfare issues. Big problem.

Rubio helped his image and did better than expected. He also rises from this.

Scott Walker did fine. Didn’t surprise either way, but remains the acceptable candidate by all sides.

Ted Cruz reinforced his "consistent conservative" label, and was intent in scoring points with the Christian right, key to winning Iowa.

It was clear that Ben Carson was Mr. Nice Guy. He is principled and decent. He didn't stand out this time, but like Herman Cain, he may rise to the top as the GOP fight gets messy down the road.

Rand Paul emphasized he was a "different" Republican. Too different for the GOP to embrace, but he made some excellent points and told some hard truths.

Mike Huckabee remains an incredible communicator. His support of Social Security and Medicare are probably the smartest thing any Republican can do. If Huckabee had a strong campaign organization he could be in top tier.


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I rate all of these records a 98. They have a good beat and you can dance to them. :rolls eyes:







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Most of what I heard was wish-fulfillment to America's economic elites.
The greatest evil is not now done in those sordid "dens of crime" (or) even in concentration camps and labour camps. In those we see its final result. But it is conceived and ordered... in clean, carpeted, warmed and well-lighted offices, by (those) who do not need to raise their voices. Hence, naturally enough, my symbol for Hell is something like the bureaucracy of a police state or the office of a thoroughly nasty business concern."


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Fact Checking the GOP Debate, Late Edition
The candidates made misleading claims on banking, jobs, education and more.
Posted on August 7, 2015

The first prime-time Republican presidential debate featured the top 10 candidates, according to polling, and they twisted some facts.

Florida Sen. Marco Rubio said that “over 40 percent of small and mid-size banks … have been wiped out” since the Dodd-Frank law was passed. Actually, the total number of commercial banks has gone down only 16 percent, continuing a longtime trend.

Businessman Donald Trump said his net worth is $10 billion, but outside estimates put the figure much lower.

Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush twice claimed that he cut taxes in the state by $19 billion. But that includes cuts in Florida estate taxes mandated by federal law that Bush had nothing to do with.

Ohio Gov. John Kasich claimed his state’s Medicaid program “is growing at one of the lowest rates in the country.” Ohio ranks 16th in terms of enrollment growth post-Affordable Care Act among the 30 expansion states and Washington, D.C.

Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker claimed his state “more than made up” for the job losses from the recession. That’s a stretch. The state has gained 4,000 jobs since the start of the recession.

Rubio said he had never advocated exceptions for rape or incest to abortion bans, but he cosponsored a bill in 2013 that contained just such exceptions.

Boasting about his education initiatives while governor, Bush claimed that the graduation rate “improved by 50 percent.” But most of the increase happened after Bush left office; the rate increased about 13 percent when he was governor.

Bush claimed that the U.S. spends more per student than any other country, but Luxembourg, Switzerland and Norway all spend more for primary and secondary education.

Former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee repeated the old claim that Obamacare “robbed” Medicare of $700 billion. That’s a reduction in the future growth of spending over 10 years.

More details
http://www.factcheck.org/2015/08/fac...-late-edition/
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Pass the popcorn

Trump can't beat Fox, ey?

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewir...les-phone-call

Trump: Fox News Boss Roger Ailes Called To Say I'll Be Treated Fairly

After he spent the weekend attacking Fox News host Megyn Kelly for the questions she posed at the Republican presidential debate, Donald Trump on Monday said that he has since spoken to Fox News president Roger Ailes.

Roger Ailes just called. He is a great guy & assures me that “Trump” will be treated fairly on @FoxNews. His word is always good!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) August 10, 2015


Earlier on Monday, Trump declined to say whether he had spoken with anyone at Fox News over the weekend, when asked by MSNBC "Morning Joe" co-host Joe Scarborough.

"Obviously it’s not in Fox News’ best interest to be in a war with you, it’s not in your best interest to be in a war with Fox News. Have you talked to Roger [Ailes] over the weekend? Have you talked to anybody at Fox News over the weekend about trying to find common ground with the network?" Scarborough asked.

"Well, I don’t want to say that," Trump responded. He then repeatedly declined to say whether a phone call took place.

Trump has been at war with Fox News since the Thursday night presidential debate, when Megyn Kelly asked him about his treatment of women. Trump called her question "unfair" and later said that she had "blood coming out of her wherever" during the debate.

Fox News did not immediately respond to TPM's request for comment.
Might have resulted from the first poll since the debate that poli- pundits, operatives and groupies have all been holding their breath over -

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewir...r-debate-drama

Poll: Trump Remains in Commanding Lead After Debate Drama
Rush Limbaugh has been taking Fox to task -

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/20...her_candidates

"The Orders to Take Out Trump Must Have Gone to Fox, Not the Other Candidates" - Rush L.
Even within the Fox family, things are getting devisive -

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewir...n-kelly-debate

Fox Host Goes After Megyn Kelly For Debate Questions: 'Disgusting!'
Gotta love this -



Wow, this is fun!
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Oh, oh

Second poll, this one just for Iowa, confirms first poll (national) that Trump stays on top.

This one is actually after the "blood comments."

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/p...e_IA_81015.pdf

Trump Still Leads in Iowa; Fiorina on Fire; Paul Tanking

Raleigh, N.C. – PPP's newest Iowa poll finds Donald Trump leading the Republican
field in the state even after a weekend of controversy. He's at 19% to 12% for Ben Carson
and Scott Walker, 11% for Jeb Bush, 10% for Carly Fiorina, 9% for Ted Cruz, and 6%
for Mike Huckabee and Marco Rubio.
The other 9 candidates are all clustered between 3% and having no support at all (George
Pataki)- John Kasich and Rand Paul are at 3%, Bobby Jindal, Rick Perry, and Rick
Santorum at 2%, Chris Christie at 1%, and Jim Gilmore, Lindsey Graham, and Pataki all
have less than 1%
Going to be fun watching the talking heads tonight and tomorrow morning!

I expect Rand to get out before the Iowa caucus; most of his supporters will go to Trump.

I think Fiorina is not going to last long -

http://www.people.com/article/donald...tial-candidate

Donald Trump Fires Back At Carly Fiorina on Twitter: She Has 'Zero Chance!'
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Post#773 at 08-10-2015 04:04 PM by Eric the Green [at San Jose CA joined Jul 2001 #posts 22,504]
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Donald Trump still leads the clown car! The clown is driving the car.


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Post#774 at 08-10-2015 05:10 PM by playwrite [at NYC joined Jul 2005 #posts 10,443]
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Wow! Just wow!

Here's what has Trump trumpeting



Amazing.

What also here, if I'm reading the colored lines correctly, is Kasich went down. I see him as the biggest threat for the GOP to take the WH and that made me anxious. I forgot who votes in GOP primaries - silly me!

But even Nate Silver is getting this wrong - so far.
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Post#775 at 08-10-2015 05:57 PM by Odin [at Moorhead, MN, USA joined Sep 2006 #posts 14,442]
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Quote Originally Posted by playwrite View Post
Here's what has Trump trumpeting



Amazing.

What also here, if I'm reading the colored lines correctly, is Kasich went down. I see him as the biggest threat for the GOP to take the WH and that made me anxious. I forgot who votes in GOP primaries - silly me!

But even Nate Silver is getting this wrong - so far.
Given how dirty the GOP Establishment can be, I expect him to be hit by some kind of sex scandal coming out of nowhere, soon.
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