As I've been saying now for a few weeks, the fix in in.
Clinton v. Rubio.
Many here may not know this but the High Tech money's been going mostly to these two.
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As I've been saying now for a few weeks, the fix in in.
Clinton v. Rubio.
Many here may not know this but the High Tech money's been going mostly to these two.
And regardless of who would win, this would be a reverse of this century's trend: Republican winners of presidential elections are all older than Democratic winners.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/12/up...publicans.html
"My generation, we were the generation that was going to change the world: somehow we were going to make it a little less lonely, a little less hungry, a little more just place. But it seems that when that promise slipped through our hands we didn´t replace it with nothing but lost faith."
Bruce Springsteen, 1987
http://brucebase.wikispaces.com/1987...+YORK+CITY,+NY
Let's look at Rubio's chances (against Hillary Clinton).
First, his Hispanic advantage.
It won't give him California. It won't matter in Texas and AZ, which are safely Republican anyway. So that leaves Nevada, Colorado, and most of all, Florida, where he is the sitting senator.
In Florida, however, his Hispanic and home state advantage may be offset by how many older women voters are there. Younger women voters will favor Hillary too. What will white millennial guys do? They may vote for Rubio by a small margin, but home state advantage probably won't matter to them. And his militarist rhetoric might. They may not be too thrilled with the idea of going off to war, which Rubio as president might seem to imply. So, I see all 3 states as still tossups, since they all supported Obama twice.
Hillary has an advantage among women and among those who don't admire Rubio's youthful inexperience and callowness.
The older voting population of Ohio, and its labor element, would seem to tilt that state toward Clinton. That would apply to most of the swing states or near-swing states of the midwest and northeast. Virginia remains a tossup, but might swing blue again. Rubio's militarism might give him an advantage there however. So let's see what the electoral vote looks like if the 4 tossups swing to Rubio, and the other close states swing to Hillary. Would he win?
Hillary Clinton:
ME 4
VT 3
NH 4
MA 11
RI 4
CT 7
NJ 14
DE 3
MD 10
DC 3
NY 29
PA 20
OH 18
MI 16
WI 10
IL 20
MN 10
IA 6
NM 5
CA 55
OR 7
WA 12
HI 4
______
275
Hillary still wins even without VA, NV, CO or FL.
Last edited by Eric the Green; 12-12-2015 at 03:34 AM.
As I have noted elsewhere, this is due to most Xers interested in political office being Republicans.Originally Posted by Earl and Mooch
To recommend thrift to the poor is both grotesque and insulting. It is like advising a man who is starving to eat less.
-Oscar Wilde, The Soul of Man under Socialism
I originally supported John Edwards because he was a fiery populist (at least by reputation). I then thought Hillary Clinton had yet to establish her bona fide qualifications. I thought that Obama dared not address poverty (the most pressing issue in American life) as was appropriate because he is... well, you know what. Republicans would have accused him of trying to use welfare as political patronage.
Obama is term-limited; Hillary Clinton is the best hope, having established her bona fide qualifications for President, and John Edwards is disgraced.
The greatest evil is not now done in those sordid "dens of crime" (or) even in concentration camps and labour camps. In those we see its final result. But it is conceived and ordered... in clean, carpeted, warmed and well-lighted offices, by (those) who do not need to raise their voices. Hence, naturally enough, my symbol for Hell is something like the bureaucracy of a police state or the office of a thoroughly nasty business concern."
― C.S. Lewis, The Screwtape Letters
We need REAL reform: establish the meritocratic-state the civil-military education system, the combined civil and military administrative class. We need to bring back real positive traditions or establish new ones that harken back to such societies like the roman empire, the holy roman empire, the Tang Song and Ming dynasties of china, various incarnations of imperial france, or closer to modern times Prussia, Germany and Japan in the 19th and first half of the 20th centuries.
I can see the usefulness of post-secondary education adopting honor codes analogous to those of the military academies. "Don't lie, don't cheat, don't steal, and don't tolerate deceit, chicanery, and theft by others" is a good standard for almost any professional. That includes such civilians as engineers, physicians, attorneys, dentists, accountants, and teachers. Basically if the consequences could be shame or embarrassment, one must avoid doing deeds that might lead to shame or embarrassment such as siring or bearing an unwelcome child through fornication or adultery. With privilege, including above-average means of living and getting to do mind-driven work instead of physical toil, must also come accountability lest the elite become exploiters and abusers.
Don't lie and don't cheat? There are some activities, like selling and advertising, that must shade the truth some to be effective. But we all know that.
Military discipline fits organizations that can operate only with military-style structures like police forces and fire brigades in which lapses of rigid command can result in pointless death or maiming. Rigid chains of command do not well fit cultural, commercial, religious, or creative life. Police and soldiers must think inside the box. Such a creative and commercial entity as an ad agency cannot operate with a military chain of command.
...If there is any ancient order to imitate it is Periclean Athens (if without the slavery, militarism, and male chauvinism) -- not Sparta, which imploded of its own militarism and lack of imagination; perhaps the Norse settlement of Iceland. Knights of the Round Table? There's enough left to imagination that it could serve the benign Camelot of John F. Kennedy or the monstrosity of the SS. Whether the Iroquois Confederacy qualifies as ancient (it is certainly pre-modern) is a quibble. The Roman Empire was a rotten order from its inception; the Holy Roman Empire was neither holy, Roman, nor an empire; Napoleonic France lasted roughly a decade; Prussia had its virtues but had a King who at times could become a despot; Japan is a much better place as a democracy than the brutal empire that conquered lands from Manchuria to Indonesia. Ask any Korean, Filipino, Vietnamese, Malay, Indonesian, or Burmese what he thinks of the Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere that was intended to encompass even Australia and California. I can't make any comment on China because there is little accessible literature. A system that needs eunuchs somehow appalls me. Victorian England without the plutocracy and colonial adventures? Much better.
In Crisis Era we will need to exorcise what is vile and unsustainable so that we can achieve what Abraham Lincoln called "a new birth of freedom". The empires that you mentioned denied freedom -- and by freedom I do not mean the freedom of elites to exploit and abuse the powerless or to turn conscripts into cannon fodder. For the precious and necessary freedom we must return to the virtues of America's Founding Fathers only with inclusion of women and ethnic minorities, and we must achieve an economic order that works to the benefit of people other than the elites.
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The greatest evil is not now done in those sordid "dens of crime" (or) even in concentration camps and labour camps. In those we see its final result. But it is conceived and ordered... in clean, carpeted, warmed and well-lighted offices, by (those) who do not need to raise their voices. Hence, naturally enough, my symbol for Hell is something like the bureaucracy of a police state or the office of a thoroughly nasty business concern."
― C.S. Lewis, The Screwtape Letters
If Rubio makes it out of the primaries and becomes their nominee, he will have been pulled far to Right on immigration. He's trying to be careful not to provide the 10-second spot that will kill him in the general (and notice the Faux News folks didn't ask him anything about his immigration stance), but it will happen.
But what will really kill him off in Florida in the general, if he should be the nominee, is HC will put Castro on the ticket (your choice as to which twin brother). This will split the Cuban-American vote in Florida with Rubio getting the old line folks (how could they vote for a Castro?!) and Castro getting the young Cuban-American vote - it will make for one of those post-election heartwarming stories about generational change! As for the many and myriad of non-Cuban Hispanic voters in Florida, Castro will whip the floor with Rubio.
The question in 2016, should Castro get on the ticket, is when will TX go Blue - certainly by 2024 or 2020 but it will be on the menu for 2016.
Selling the viability of a 2016 GOP nominee for the WH is really only about the news apparatus trying to make it somewhat interesting so they can make some money. That's going to get even tougher with each Prez election cycle - imagine what Castro (b.d. 1974) on the ticket does to the Dems-are-old, no-back-bench memes. Castro at the top of the ticket in 2024/28 with a considerable larger Brown segment of voters - and then his twin can run in 2032/36!
Last edited by playwrite; 11-12-2015 at 12:01 PM.
"The Devil enters the prompter's box and the play is ready to start" - R. Service
“It’s not tax money. The banks have accounts with the Fed … so, to lend to a bank, we simply use the computer to mark up the size of the account that they have with the Fed. It’s much more akin to printing money.” - B.Bernanke
"Keep your filthy hands off my guns while I decide what you can & can't do with your uterus" - Sarah Silverman
If you meet a magic pony on the road, kill it. - Playwrite
Yes, but Castro has no chance at all; sorry!If Rubio makes it out of the primaries and becomes their nominee, he will have been pulled far to Right on immigration. He's trying to be careful not to provide the 10-second spot that will kill him in the general (and notice the Faux News folks didn't ask him anything about his immigration stance), but it will happen.
But what will really kill him off in Florida in the general, if he should be the nominee, is HC will put Castro on the ticket (your choice as to which twin brother). This will split the Cuban-American vote in Florida with Rubio getting the old line folks (how could they vote for a Castro?!) and Castro getting the young Cuban-American vote - it will make for one of those post-election heartwarming stories about generational change! As for the many and myriad of non-Cuban Hispanic voters in Florida, Castro will whip the floor with Rubio.
The question in 2016, should Castro get on the ticket, is when will TX go Blue - certainly by 2024 or 2020 but it will be on the menu for 2016.
Selling the viability of a 2016 GOP nominee for the WH is really only about the news apparatus trying to make it somewhat interesting so they can make some money. That's going to get even tougher with each Prez election cycle - imagine what Castro (b.d. 1974) on the ticket does to the Dems-are-old, no-back-bench memes. Castro at the top of the ticket in 2024/28 with a considerable larger Brown segment of voters - and then his twin can run in 2032/36!
That's Fascism and the Nazis. And you still deny that you are a fascist?
As I have as well. And this article about covers it:
A Lost Generation of Democrats
By MARK SCHMITT NOV. 12, 2015
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/12/op...f=opinion&_r=0
The average age of the leaders, Hillary Rodham Clinton and Senator Bernie Sanders, is 71, older than Ronald Reagan was during his successful 1980 campaign.
The Republican candidates average 57, with three candidates in their 40s, even after Scott Walker (47 at the time) dropped out in September. The sole Republican candidate old enough to collect Social Security? Donald J. Trump.
Where are the national Democratic politicians in their 40s and 50s? At 52, Martin O’Malley, the former Maryland governor, is this year’s lone exception. Does it say something about the party, or about the generation, that other than President Obama (born at the tail end of the baby boom), national (Democratic) candidates from this age group are rare? If Hillary Clinton is elected and serves eight years, by 2024, the oldest of the millennials will then be hitting their mid-40s, ready to take over. The generation of Run-D.M.C. and Winona Ryder might miss its chance altogether.....
The Democratic Party, as an institution, had little meaning for this generation. It was not ideologically coherent — extremely conservative Southerners were still Democrats well into the Clinton years — and the party’s operatives did little to make it meaningful to young people. The idea that by the mid-2000s, young people would identify as “Fighting Dems” and embrace Mr. Dean’s “50-state strategy” to expand the party would seem really surprising to us in the 1990s.
Meanwhile, like most of the Republican candidates, middle-aged conservatives spent their youth in the sunshine of the Reagan era, sometimes like Michael J. Fox’s Alex P. Keaton character, surprising their boomer parents with their right-wing views. Their early adulthood was shaped by the galvanizing backlash politics of Newt Gingrich, a mode that the candidates and their congressional counterparts are now taking to absurd extremes....
You missed the point. He conflated two days. The latest shows that he met Westmoreland. Why would the general have suggested that a prize pupli try West Point?
There are a lot of candidates running who are benefitting from Jupiter's position in Virgo during the primary season. Bernie Sanders is also a Virgo!
You do mean Raoul Castro?
Metal snake: http://www.famousbirthdays.com/zodiac/1941.html <- see other thread about snake oil
Hillery: Fire Pig http://www.famousbirthdays.com/zodiac/1947.html <- Confucius say, don't toss pearls before swine.
O'Malley: Water Tiger http://www.famousbirthdays.com/zodiac/1962.html
MBTI step II type : Expressive INTP
There's an annual contest at Bond University, Australia, calling for the most appropriate definition of a contemporary term:
The winning student wrote:
"Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a piece of shit by the clean end."
Meet the Castro brothers - Mayor Julián Castro of San Antonio and Representative Joaquin Castro (TX-20) -You do mean Raoul Castro?
- one of the two will be HC's running mate in '16 and '20, and then go on to be Prez in '24 and '28; the other will be Prez in '32 and '36.
These guys will be one of the big reasons the GOP will cease to be a national party.
And no, I can't tell them apart.
"The Devil enters the prompter's box and the play is ready to start" - R. Service
“It’s not tax money. The banks have accounts with the Fed … so, to lend to a bank, we simply use the computer to mark up the size of the account that they have with the Fed. It’s much more akin to printing money.” - B.Bernanke
"Keep your filthy hands off my guns while I decide what you can & can't do with your uterus" - Sarah Silverman
If you meet a magic pony on the road, kill it. - Playwrite
No, not the 2 brothers in Cuba, but those two brothers in Texas. I scored Julian Castro's horoscope as 1 positive and 9 negative aspects. In a word, his chances are dismal. Joaquin's would presumably be the same, since they are twins.You do mean Raoul Castro?
Their last name won't be the problem, though. After all we elected Barack Hussein Obama. They are good folks; they just lack charisma and energy.
But maybe they'll run someday; they could run for president and vice-president. But which one would be which? They have to agree to switch off, like playwrite says. A new dynasty to succeed the Clinton husband and wife team, if they win.
But, it won't happen. I doubt even that they will rise any higher than their current positions.
Last edited by Eric the Green; 11-13-2015 at 04:23 PM.
I don't know about them lacking charisma. I thought that the Castro speech at the 2012 Dem. convention was pretty good.
Two problems. First, the ticket needs to have people from two different states on it. Of coursr the Bush-Cheney ticket got around that. Also, I suspect that dynasties are losing their flavor with Americans. It's already looking like a Bush-Clinton rematch in 2016 is out. The so called ''smart Bush'' is just not showing much on the campaign trail.A new dynasty to succeed the Clinton husband and wife team, if they win.
But, it won't happen. I doubt even that they will rise any higher than their current positions.
Quibble: Julian Castro is no longer Mayor of San Antonio; He's the HUD Secretary. Bill Clinton himself helped talk him into accepting the nomination. I think this was done as a way to make him more palatable as a VP pick, which is why I think he's the likely pick for Hillary as VP and I have said so for a while.
Let's look again at some candidates past and candidates/potential candidates of the present who have negative or even horoscope scores:
nominated but lost:
Herbert Hoover 6-13, but he won once.
Al Smith, 7-7
Alf Landon, 6-18
Thomas Dewey, 4-6
Adlai Stevenson, 10-20
George McGovern, 8-8
John Anderson, 4-17
Walter Mondale, 8-14
Michael Dukakis, 5-15
H. Ross Perot, 10-13
Bob Dole, 9-12
John Kerry, 7-9
John McCain, 9-10
(note: no candidate who has won since 1932 has had a negative or even score!)
lost nomination, but might run or is running again:
Jerry Brown, 2-8
Rick Santorum, 7-7
Herman Cain, 6-6
Buddy Roemer, 10-13
Mike Huckabee, 6-6
running in 2015-16:
Bobby Jindal, 13-14
Ben Carson, 4-6
Ted Cruz, 4-6
Lindsay Graham, 2-3
John Kasich, 7-15
Scott Walker, 6-10
Jim Gilmore, 10-12
Martin O'Malley 14-14
potential candidates:
Sarah Palin, 3-6
Mitch Daniels, 10-13
Kirsten Gillibrand, 12-13
Amy Klobuchar, 6-6
Duval Patrick, 5-7
Joe Kennedy III, 3-6
Julian & Joaquin Castro, 1-9
Rahm Emmanuel, 12-13
Mark Warner, 5-8
Gavin Newsom, 3-8
Wendy Davis, 8-24
Peter King, 4-4
Russ Feingold, 13-16
Bill DeBlazio, 5-17
Ken Cuccinelli, 6-11
Sam Brownback, 8-12
Tim Kaine, 8-15
Zephyr Teachout, 5-9
Michelle Obama, 8-9
Pretty consistent! You can pretty well eliminate anyone on these lists from ever being elected president.
Last edited by Eric the Green; 12-03-2015 at 02:21 AM.
It struck me as very lack lustre.
Note that the J. Castros have the lowest score of anyone on my list!
Not yet, fortunately! But he's doing better, and don't count him out. As you know, his horoscope score is good. Only Trump and Sanders have better scores.Two problems. First, the ticket needs to have people from two different states on it. Of coursr the Bush-Cheney ticket got around that. Also, I suspect that dynasties are losing their flavor with Americans. It's already looking like a Bush-Clinton rematch in 2016 is out. The so called ''smart Bush'' is just not showing much on the campaign trail.
Last edited by Eric the Green; 11-13-2015 at 05:08 PM.
This ex-general wants to use the military to convert the world to Christianity. He's Ben Carson's foreign policy guru
http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/attytood/This-ex-general-wants-to-use-the-military-to-convert-the-world-to-Christianity-Hes-Ben-Carsons-foreign-policy-guru.html
Please familiarize yourself with the radical ideas of Robert Dees -- his deep-seated belief that the U.S. has already been widely "infiltrated" by radical Muslims, that gay rights is a plot to subvert the military because "troops don't want to be politically correct, they want to be God correct," or that the United States is on the brink of a Rome-style collapse and that "[q]uite a few things are upside down in our nation today and the men of Jesus Christ in this nation have got to stand up and turn them right-side up."
Then, by all means, read up on the shadowy past of Carson's other foreign-policy adviser "Dewey" Clarridge -- not just his plot to mine Nicaragua's main harbor (at a time we supposedly weren't at war with the Central American nation) and his key role in Iran-Contra, but also his current bizarre activities in running a private CIA-style operation from the poolside of his San Diego home with assets in Pakistan and Afghanistan, where he wanted to oust the Karzai regime.
And then, ask yourself this: Why are the New York Times and other media outlets so concerned that Carson is blowing off and not listening to this small cadre of advisers? Because isn't it a much bigger problem for America when he does listen to them?
Last edited by Earl and Mooch; 11-18-2015 at 09:47 PM.
"My generation, we were the generation that was going to change the world: somehow we were going to make it a little less lonely, a little less hungry, a little more just place. But it seems that when that promise slipped through our hands we didn´t replace it with nothing but lost faith."
Bruce Springsteen, 1987
http://brucebase.wikispaces.com/1987...+YORK+CITY,+NY
That is terrifying.
To recommend thrift to the poor is both grotesque and insulting. It is like advising a man who is starving to eat less.
-Oscar Wilde, The Soul of Man under Socialism
Not really because Carson is never going to be elected president.That is terrifying.
Do you think the American people want to be governed by establishment weaklings. Do you actually think they want government by Wilsonian weakling. The government should stop shoving "human rights" and "globalism" down our throats.
