Rubio KO ... Kasich now takes the Zombie baton.Originally Posted by XYMOX_4AD_84
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Rubio KO ... Kasich now takes the Zombie baton.
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Which is a corroded lead pipe.
We need to forget about any further trade liberalisation with any further countries. And if possible, put free trade in reverse and return to the high tariffs we had in the 1970s. Not abruptly, but progressively. There is something to be said for all nations to be as self-sufficient, not just self reliant in as many areas as possible.
Actually, I think Cruz stands an excellent chance of becoming Trump's running mate with Trump daring someone to sue on Cruz's credentials. The two outsiders unified on one ticket.
The Republicans (including Trump) are holding back on Hillary because they would rather face her than face Bernie. If it becomes Hillary's attack machine against Trump's attack machine? I don't think Hillary is honest enough to win if Trump gets all the authoritarians in the country to turn out and vote. The election becomes a referendum on an unacceptable status quo. And a lot of Bernie voters stay home or vote for Jill Stein.
And there is still the "eight year itch" factor for Hillary or Bernie to overcome. The White House usually changes parties after 8 years. And when it dosen't, it's because voters are VERY satisfied with the status quo (1988, 1928, 1904, 1908) or VERY fearful of a change in the status quo (1940, 1944).
Not really; they are holding back on Bernie too. I agree that Bernie may be the stronger candidate. But they are just looking at the likelihood of who they think the opponent would be. Pretty simple; no convoluted thinking required.
I'd LIKE to see more votes for Jill Stein. I'm not holding my breath; even Ralph Nader couldn't get more than 2% in his best year. As I mentioned before, the eight-year itch does not apply when one of the parties is dominant enough. The Republicans have fallen so far off the deep end already, that nominating someone as ridiculous as Donald Trump will just accelerate their tumble to doom.If it becomes Hillary's attack machine against Trump's attack machine? I don't think Hillary is honest enough to win if Trump gets all the authoritarians in the country to turn out and vote. The election becomes a referendum on an unacceptable status quo. And a lot of Bernie voters stay home or vote for Jill Stein.
And there is still the "eight year itch" factor for Hillary or Bernie to overcome. The White House usually changes parties after 8 years. And when it doesn't, it's because voters are VERY satisfied with the status quo (1988, 1928, 1904, 1908) or VERY fearful of a change in the status quo (1940, 1944).
They have no chance, then. Hillary will hear and answer the call for change, and people will accept that continuing on Obama's path (when he was permitted to tread it by the people; which was only about a year, or even less, before they put the stupid Republicans back in congress, the stupidest thing people did since voting for Bush in 2004) is continuing on the path of change to the status quo. The "status quo," if Hillary is running against any Republican (let alone a con man and a xenophobe), would actually be EQUIVALENT to FURTHER OVERTURNING the status quo. Maybe not in a way that would appeal fully to the 4T mood, but the mood will push her along too. Enough of the people (and today all you need is 50%) ARE satisfied with this "status quo" of change to keep a Democrat in the White House almost indefinitely. FDR said it was up to the people to go out and MAKE him change the country; that's what they did, and that's what he did, then. That's what we'll have to do to Hillary too, AND to her successor, IF we are fortunate enough to keep electing Democrats.
The American People, especially millennials, the so-called civic generation, need to learn some civics, man. The president does not have the power by himself to change an unacceptable status quo. Isn't that obvious to you by now? You have to change the congress too. The people chose not to do that, for 6 long years since Nov.2, 2010. You have to change the congress too. The president needs a congress to complete the Deal. Get it? Voting Republican is to vote for the status quo. ALWAYS. Get it???
being civic does not mean they have to vote for who you want in power to be considered civic.
1984 Civic
ISFJ
Introvert(69%) Sensing(6%) Feeling(19%) Judging(22%)
Unless your first priority is to purge your party of defenders of the status quo. That can best be done in opposition. And that is exactly how the Republicans started doing it in Congress beginning in the 1980s and reaching a crescendo in 1992.
There is a reason why the party that holds the White House loses seats in mid-term congressional elections. It is very rare for a party to win back Congress while holding the White House. I think the last time that happened was during the Eisenhower Administration (briefly).
Therefore a Trump Administration might be a very strategic platform for a chastened Democratic Party to fight to win back Congress beginning in 2018 and perhaps even this election. A Democratic Party that might win back it's majority in a couple of wave elections (and better than even chance of holding Trump to one term) in time for 2020 Census and House District reapportionment.
Wheras a Hillary Clinton Administration might be a recipe for a continuing Republican Congress and perhaps an even more pronounced Republican majority in 2020. It's just two rough years of a President Trump who probably won't have much congressional support to get through.
Frankly the thought of a Hillary Clinton tempted to follow her worst instincts and "wag the dog" with a major war to avoid impeachment scares me more than a Trump Administration (though Trump might suffer from such temptation after 2018 if HE faced a hostile Congress too). We have seen examples of this in other countries at different times. President Poincaire of France found it helpful to go to war with Germany to avoid scandal relating to some letters to and from his mistress that became public in 1914. If the war had not come along when it did, he might have been out of office in disgrace within a few weeks. Similarly, Lord Asquith and Lloyd George found war with Germany a valuable respite from a crisis over Irish Home Rule that could have brought down his government. See http://www.amazon.com/July-1914-Coun.../dp/0465060749
Last edited by MordecaiK; 03-16-2016 at 02:14 AM.
No, that's not what's happening. Until 1994, usually a sitting president could keep control of congress until the 6th year of his term. But since Clinton overturned the Reagan-Bush nightmare, the Repugs think they own the country. First Newt Gingrich carried out his contract on America, and then the tea party threw common sense overboard. Obama was not even allowed to govern with a decent congress for even 6 months, before the Repugs were able to take it back, thanks to millennials who don't vote and boomers too many of whom vote the wrong way in their fearful elderhood.
Better yet, a disasterous Trump candidacy might win back the Senate in 2016 at least, and if the people start waking up and overturning gerrymandering like we did in CA, then the people could take back the House too, since that's how the people already vote.Therefore a Trump Administration might be a very strategic platform for a chastened Democratic Party to fight to win back Congress beginning in 2018 and perhaps even this election. A Democratic Party that might win back it's majority in a couple of wave elections (and better than even chance of holding Trump to one term) in time for 2020 Census and House District reapportionment.
That's FOUR years, and four minutes of a Republican president is such a nightmare that we should not even contemplate it. It's far more likely that if Trump is able to con and hoodwink the public into voting for him over an experienced and capable diplomat for president, they will do just what they also did in 2002 and 1982, and give the republican deceiver and TV host celebrity full support in congress after his first two years. Unlike Repugs, Democrats don't think they own the country, and they don't vote in midterms either.Wheras a Hillary Clinton Administration might be a recipe for a continuing Republican Congress and perhaps an even more pronounced Republican majority in 2020. It's just two rough years of a President Trump who probably won't have much congressional support to get through.
There were many reasons why the leaders of 1914 found that diversion useful, yes. But the chances of a Hillary impeachment are remote, given that nothing they throw at her sticks, because likely anything she is accused of consists of nothing but Republican propaganda. They tried for 2 years to get her on Benghazi and failed. They even admitted it was all politics. The email thing is a lot of hot air too, very likely. Charges of receiving emails that were classified only retroactively, long after she received them (and anyway, can she be impeached while president for "crimes" as Secretary of State?). I could be wrong, but remember too she won't start a war even if it happens; it's not in the stars. It's not even remotely in the stars. Again, I assume you saw my video???Frankly the thought of a Hillary Clinton tempted to follow her worst instincts and "wag the dog" with a major war to avoid impeachment scares me more than a Trump Administration (though Trump might suffer from such temptation after 2018 if HE faced a hostile Congress too). We have seen examples of this in other countries at different times. President Poincaire of France found it helpful to go to war with Germany to avoid scandal relating to some letters to and from his mistress that became public in 1914. If the war had not come along when it did, he might have been out of office in disgrace within a few weeks. Similarly, Lord Asquith and Lloyd George found war with Germany a valuable respite from a crisis over Irish Home Rule that could have brought down his government. See http://www.amazon.com/July-1914-Coun.../dp/0465060749
Even if you don't believe in my cosmic cycles, it can be explained by the natural flow of things. Americans are war weary now. They are not likely to follow Hillary into another major war. It's not time; it's too soon.
Last edited by Eric the Green; 03-16-2016 at 02:20 PM.
It looks like Clinton scored another narrow victory in Missouri like the one just to the north, by .2% Meanwhile Trump beat Cruz there by the same slight margin.
Trump got an 8 point victory in Illinois, and Clinton got a 2 point victory there.
Elsewhere, Clinton got easy wins in the other three states, and Trump just one. Trump lost convincingly to the home state governor in Ohio, won a 3 and a half point narrow victory over Cruz in North Carolina, and a 17 point victory in Florida, knocking out Rubio.
It was a sweep for Clinton, and a knockout night for Trump. It looks like we're going to have to settle for these two.
I say, forget the Republican propaganda and get behind the Lady.
Gee, the only viable choice available to choose from is now guaranteed to win. Wow!! That's easy.
Last edited by Classic-X'er; 03-16-2016 at 03:46 AM.
What I noticed is that the most moderate candidates (except Kasich, who also won his home state tonight to stay in the race) are winning the nomination. That is ironic in a 4T-mood year of the outsider and the angry voter. And Trump might sound like a strange kind of a "moderate," but I always put him in that camp, since his views have varied all over the place, and since some of his health care and other plans are less reactionary than those of Cruz, Rubio or Carson. But such can only explain his triumph in the northeast over Cruz.
Cruz is definitely McCarthy reincarnate, and I'm still leaning to the idea that Trump is the reincarnation of Mussolini. Seeing pictures of him in the top 10 worst dictators video from watchmojo.com, seems to confirm my impression.
https://youtu.be/kZmduW_Ye_8?t=2m07s
Last edited by Eric the Green; 03-16-2016 at 04:42 AM.
K-- shame on you Eric, don't you trust your charts? The primariies are only 1/2 over. I say let's see what other states are feeling the Bern.
That said if Bernie gets screwed out of the nomination I'll be happy to get behind the lady provided she's Jill Stein
-- unfortunately those Dems were Bernie supportersexcept they voted for Kasich not the Donald
We have gone as far as we can go without taking things to the logical conclusion, which is a race to the bottom in living standards, maybe the poorest country with a large population... that's probably Nigeria.
The greatest evil is not now done in those sordid "dens of crime" (or) even in concentration camps and labour camps. In those we see its final result. But it is conceived and ordered... in clean, carpeted, warmed and well-lighted offices, by (those) who do not need to raise their voices. Hence, naturally enough, my symbol for Hell is something like the bureaucracy of a police state or the office of a thoroughly nasty business concern."
― C.S. Lewis, The Screwtape Letters
Some of are concerned with religious liberties.
Religious liberty imperiled
http://www.jewishworldreview.com/031...imperiled.php3
… " a Jewish inmate in a North Carolina prison had been denied the right to engage in Jewish religious study based initially on a prison warden’s interpretation of Jewish law. The inmate, Israel Ben-Levi, had requested to engage in Torah study together with a few other inmates. The warden asserted - wrongly - that since Judaism requires a quorum of 10 to engage in Jewish worship and study, and there aren't 10 Jews in the prison, the request can be denied. The lower courts, equally inexpert in Jewish law, agreed with the warden's decision. Justice Alito viewed this denial as a violation of Ben-Levi's First Amendment right to "free exercise" of religion. He didn't base his view on the prison warden's mystifying misinterpretation of Jewish law, but on the basis that government authorities have no business offering such interpretations altogether. "Repeatedly and in many different contexts, we have warned that courts must not presume to determine the place of a particular belief in a religion or the plausibility of a religious claim," Justice Alito wrote, adding, "the Court's indifference to this discriminatory infringement of religious liberty is disappointing.”
For those of us concerned with religious liberties, the court's decision is not only "disappointing" but also ominous. We will get more insight into just how ominous in two weeks, as the court hears oral arguments in the Little Sisters of the Poor v. Secretary Burwell case, the latest litigation over the Obamacare "contraceptives mandate." At issue is whether a religious nonprofit, such as the Catholic nuns' poverty organization, shall be exempt, in the same manner as a church itself, from participating in providing of health insurance that includes contraception coverage and other health services the nuns (and others similarly situated) deem objectionable to their religious tenets. The Obama administration claims it has accommodated the nuns by saying they need not provide such health insurance so long as they sign a form stating their objection to doing so. The nuns assert that the very signing of the form makes them, in effect, facilitators of providing what their faith objects to. Thus, like the prisoner's case, the nuns' case begs the question of whether government officials may determine the merits of what constitutes a “legitimate” religious claim that should be protected.”…
As much as you refuse to believe it (since I think you are sort of a radical), there are many non radical people in this country who would never vote for someone like Trump. We'll all hold our noses and vote for Hillary if she is the candidate. If not, then it's Bernie. If Trump is stopped by Cruz, then the non radical vote splits between Cruz and Clinton/Sanders.
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Trump still does not have enough delegates. Now that Rubio's out and we get more Western and Non Great Lakes Midwestern states, the dynamic could be very different from now until the GOP convention. #NeverTrump needs to get more aggressive. There needs to be a #NeverTrump pledge. #NeverTrump means, for a GOP voter (or a Dem who crosses over), you must vote for Cruz or Kasich (until or unless Kasich quits). At the GOP convention, if either Trump has enough delegates or does not and it's brokered (as opposed to a clean Cruz victory), then you must publicly state you are leaving the party if Trump is the nominee. If Trump is the nominee, when November arrives, you must join with Dem voters or must vote for an alternative party candidate.
This is all quite simple. Captured in the simple tag - #NeverTrump.
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One thing that is not propaganda is the FBI investigation. And the key issue is what the FBI determines on the few most highly classified emails. The FBI report is needed soon to settle this issue.
Actually Tara, in the world according to Eric it does. Thankfully, the world according to Eric and reality are rarely confused by persons other than Eric.
Quite right, but do you really expect Eric to see that logic? One of the main reasons I've vowed to never support Hillary even if the Dems nominate her is because her White House would be an open sewer of scandal that she'd happily paper over with a convenient war. If one is not handy, she would make one.
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It is not up to prison officials or the governments to decide what 'appropriate' religious practice is or what religion an inmate can practice aside perhaps from meeting demands to perform a deed contrary to laws in force outside the prison (extreme example: a human sacrifice) or a compromise of the reality of incarceration (as in a prisoner demanding to receive a trip to Lourdes for receipt of a miracle). The penal system must accommodate the religious beliefs of the prisoner entering the prison or after a conversion to any known religion (maybe not some ad hoc faith that gives a prisoner rights that an offender finds necessary for some prohibited delight -- let us say liquor at a meal or access to child pornography.
Orthodox Judaism is definitely not ad hoc...and it well defines what is permitted and what is not. Prison staff cannot interpret a religion on behalf of or to the detriment of a prisoner. One can find an expert on what Orthodox Judaism is -- who but an Orthodox rabbi?
The greatest evil is not now done in those sordid "dens of crime" (or) even in concentration camps and labour camps. In those we see its final result. But it is conceived and ordered... in clean, carpeted, warmed and well-lighted offices, by (those) who do not need to raise their voices. Hence, naturally enough, my symbol for Hell is something like the bureaucracy of a police state or the office of a thoroughly nasty business concern."
― C.S. Lewis, The Screwtape Letters
It doesn't look too good, from what I can see. If he can't win Illinois and Ohio, and NY and CA are unlikely for him, the prospects are dim for nomination. There's not a lot available elsewhere. He's getting a lot of votes though, at least up north, so Hillary will have to pay attention to him. Bernie's better chart didn't come through; my system doesn't necessarily work to predict a nominee. Candidates with bad scores get nominated by these two parties. If he were the nominee, I would say he was a shoe-in.
If the voters decided for Hillary, that's not Bernie getting screwed. It's the decision of the voters. You can't blame it all on a few incidents of skirting the law. That happened on both sides anyway. I don't know what state you live in. But it behooves us to vote strategically. For Hillary if you live in a swing state like Ohio, Florida or Virginia; otherwise Jill Stein is an excellent choice.That said if Bernie gets screwed out of the nomination I'll be happy to get behind the lady provided she's Jill Stein
But don't be fooled by the Republican propaganda about Hillary. She's not as good as we want, but neither are American voters very smart. Remember whom they voted for in 2004; and what they did and didn't do in 1994, 2010 and 2014? How much can we expect out of them, then? Utopia? No.
Bernie's hopes now rest on the unlikely event of Hillary being indicted.
The map:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...ation_map.html
Last edited by Eric the Green; 03-16-2016 at 03:24 PM.
The Jewish worship thing, I agree with you on. It was a rare case where Alito appears to be right on something. The other matter is different. The accommodation by the Obama admin seems quite enough to me. If they need not provide the service, then they are off the hook. The government hasn't "determined" anything. If they can't live with that, then it seems rather that the nuns are trying to keep people from getting the service they need just to make their point, and impose their religion on the rest of us.
Ah, do you see any other moderate Democrats running against Hilary? I saw one left wing radical running against her and that's it.
