You really should have enough integrity to quit propagating this lie.Originally Posted by JDG 66
http://thinkprogress.org/politics/20...medium=twitter
New Records: IRS Targeted Progressive Groups More Extensively Than Tea Party
"The Devil enters the prompter's box and the play is ready to start" - R. Service
“It’s not tax money. The banks have accounts with the Fed … so, to lend to a bank, we simply use the computer to mark up the size of the account that they have with the Fed. It’s much more akin to printing money.” - B.Bernanke
"Keep your filthy hands off my guns while I decide what you can & can't do with your uterus" - Sarah Silverman
If you meet a magic pony on the road, kill it. - Playwrite
What the 'scandal' was really about -
- Why are we letting these groups get away with not paying their taxes -
http://crooksandliars.com/2015/06/wh...nfluenced-roof
These 501c groups are just pleased as punch that the entire political reaction to the Charleston massacre is just about bringing a flag down.White Supremacist Group That Influenced Roof Is Paid For With Your Tax Dollars
That's right. The CCC is a 501(c)(4 )tax-exempt organization which claims to be organized for social welfare. As such, it pays no taxes as other for-profit organizations do, which means those taxes you pay help the CCC stay in the business of promoting white supremacy.
Tax-exempt social welfare groups are supposed to “primarily promote the common good and general welfare of the people of the community as a whole,” according to IRS documents.
The Council of Conservative Citizens explains on its website that its members believe “that the American people and government should remain European in their composition and character…. We also oppose all efforts to mix the races of mankind.”
Groups that espouse hate can be stripped of their tax-exempt status, said Marcus Owens, who ran the IRS’s exempt organizations division in the 1990s. That happened to the neo-Nazi group National Alliance in 1982. The Council of Conservative Citizens has been identified by the Southern Poverty Law Center as a “notorious, racist hate group.”
This is where you might ask why they remain tax-exempt. My dark money article lays it all out for you. They aren't likely to revoke that tax-exempt status any time soon, because Republicans have intimidated and defanged the IRS.
While liberal advocacy groups had pushed for rules on campaign financing and “dark money”—political contributions from undisclosed sources—conservatives manufactured a crisis to pressure IRS Commissioner John Koskinen into delaying a transparency rule that would apply to dark money in the 2016 election cycle.
So yes, your tax dollars keep this organization alive, and yes, the IRS will do absolutely nothing about it.
"The Devil enters the prompter's box and the play is ready to start" - R. Service
“It’s not tax money. The banks have accounts with the Fed … so, to lend to a bank, we simply use the computer to mark up the size of the account that they have with the Fed. It’s much more akin to printing money.” - B.Bernanke
"Keep your filthy hands off my guns while I decide what you can & can't do with your uterus" - Sarah Silverman
If you meet a magic pony on the road, kill it. - Playwrite
Yeah. We didn't even talk about the issue of guns. I'm not surprised that we ignored the money.
Marx: Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies.
Lennon: You either get tired fighting for peace, or you die.
-Cute charts, but I see that Playdude doesn't provide any charts which compare:
1) The length of the harrasment (designed to disrupt the charity's activities), as previously noted:
2) The privacy violations suffered, which I've detailed many times.
PW continues to try to divert the real point: Obama's political opponents weren't just investigated, they were targeted for a degree of drawn-out harrasment to which Leftie groups were not. But I guess that ignoring the facts makes his amygdala feel better.
And now it's become perfectly clear why that myth 'upsets' you --Cute charts, but I see that Playdude doesn't provide any charts which compare:
1) The length of the harrasment (designed to disrupt the charity's activities), as previously noted:
2) The privacy violations suffered, which I've detailed many times.
PW continues to try to divert the real point: Obama's political opponents weren't just investigated, they were targeted for a degree of drawn-out harrasment to which Leftie groups were not. But I guess that ignoring the facts makes his amygdala feel better.
You're funny, in a pathetic if not evil way.White Supremacist Group That Influenced Roof Is Paid For With Your Tax Dollars
That's right. The CCC is a 501(c)(4 )tax-exempt organization which claims to be organized for social welfare. As such, it pays no taxes as other for-profit organizations do, which means those taxes you pay help the CCC stay in the business of promoting white supremacy.
Tax-exempt social welfare groups are supposed to “primarily promote the common good and general welfare of the people of the community as a whole,” according to IRS documents.
The Council of Conservative Citizens explains on its website that its members believe “that the American people and government should remain European in their composition and character…. We also oppose all efforts to mix the races of mankind.”
Groups that espouse hate can be stripped of their tax-exempt status, said Marcus Owens, who ran the IRS’s exempt organizations division in the 1990s. That happened to the neo-Nazi group National Alliance in 1982. The Council of Conservative Citizens has been identified by the Southern Poverty Law Center as a “notorious, racist hate group.”
This is where you might ask why they remain tax-exempt. My dark money article lays it all out for you. They aren't likely to revoke that tax-exempt status any time soon, because Republicans have intimidated and defanged the IRS.
While liberal advocacy groups had pushed for rules on campaign financing and “dark money”—political contributions from undisclosed sources—conservatives manufactured a crisis to pressure IRS Commissioner John Koskinen into delaying a transparency rule that would apply to dark money in the 2016 election cycle.
But what is really funny is how some on the Left and Independents think there is no significant difference between the two parties.
Last edited by playwrite; 06-25-2015 at 03:00 PM.
"The Devil enters the prompter's box and the play is ready to start" - R. Service
“It’s not tax money. The banks have accounts with the Fed … so, to lend to a bank, we simply use the computer to mark up the size of the account that they have with the Fed. It’s much more akin to printing money.” - B.Bernanke
"Keep your filthy hands off my guns while I decide what you can & can't do with your uterus" - Sarah Silverman
If you meet a magic pony on the road, kill it. - Playwrite
-Oh! That must be it!
I see that PW doesn't have any handy-dandy charts comparing the time it took Obama's foes to get a clearance (if ever) vs. the treatment of Leftie cronies, nor of the number of privacy violations suffered by Rightie groups.
<chuckle!>-Cute charts, but I see that Playdude doesn't provide any charts which compare:
1) The length of the harrasment (designed to disrupt the charity's activities), as previously noted:
2) The privacy violations suffered, which I've detailed many times.
PW continues to try to divert the real point: Obama's political opponents weren't just investigated, they were targeted for a degree of drawn-out harrasment to which Leftie groups were not. But I guess that ignoring the facts makes his amygdala feel better.
I'd say they're trying to divert from the already confirmed fact that some of the
applications were flagged for 'extra'-scrutiny, by conveniently omitting the 'extra'.
It's quite predictable that Think Progress would put-together a graphic that
obscures that delineation; Even more predictable that Mr. Amygdala would,
yet again(!) mindlessly post it from whatever is his fave blog of the day!
Prince
PS: It's like 'The Clinton-Way'TM writ large!
I Am A Child of God/Nature/The Universe
I Think Globally and Act Individually(and possibly, voluntarily join-together with Others)
I Pray for World Peace & I Choose Less-Just Say: "NO!, Thank You."
Idiot, the WSJ didn't compare times between baggers and non-baggers because they don't have the data. And that is because Darrel (grand-thief-auto) Issa specifically constrained the IG to look ONLY at the IRS review of baggers.-Oh! That must be it!
I see that PW doesn't have any handy-dandy charts comparing the time it took Obama's foes to get a clearance (if ever) vs. the treatment of Leftie cronies, nor of the number of privacy violations suffered by Rightie groups.
So typical of the AD.
However, it is great to see you looking out for groups like the one that inspired the s-head in Charleston. Heaven forbid that such socially-beneficial groups like that have to pay taxes like the rest of us.
Last edited by playwrite; 06-25-2015 at 03:25 PM.
"The Devil enters the prompter's box and the play is ready to start" - R. Service
“It’s not tax money. The banks have accounts with the Fed … so, to lend to a bank, we simply use the computer to mark up the size of the account that they have with the Fed. It’s much more akin to printing money.” - B.Bernanke
"Keep your filthy hands off my guns while I decide what you can & can't do with your uterus" - Sarah Silverman
If you meet a magic pony on the road, kill it. - Playwrite
-Interesting point.
I see that PW has once again vomited on the scene, with nothing productive to add.
First, if you look at the actual IRS communications as well as language used by members and staff in the numerous Congressional reviews, the words "heightened" (on the TP graph) is interchangeable with "extra."<chuckle!>
I'd say they're trying to divert from the already confirmed fact that some of the
applications were flagged for 'extra'-scrutiny, by conveniently omitting the 'extra'.
It's quite predictable that Think Progress would put-together a graphic that
obscures that delineation; Even more predictable that Mr. Amygdala would,
yet again(!) mindlessly post it from whatever is his fave blog of the day!
Prince
PS: It's like 'The Clinton-Way'TM writ large!
Maybe get yourself a better Thesaurus?
And whether you want to use "extra" "heightened" or "mom's bosoms," do you have a graph that demonstrates a difference between scrutiny of bagger versus non-bagger? Or are you just back to your boring drive-bys again?
"The Devil enters the prompter's box and the play is ready to start" - R. Service
“It’s not tax money. The banks have accounts with the Fed … so, to lend to a bank, we simply use the computer to mark up the size of the account that they have with the Fed. It’s much more akin to printing money.” - B.Bernanke
"Keep your filthy hands off my guns while I decide what you can & can't do with your uterus" - Sarah Silverman
If you meet a magic pony on the road, kill it. - Playwrite
You would 'think' so wouldn't you?
"The Devil enters the prompter's box and the play is ready to start" - R. Service
“It’s not tax money. The banks have accounts with the Fed … so, to lend to a bank, we simply use the computer to mark up the size of the account that they have with the Fed. It’s much more akin to printing money.” - B.Bernanke
"Keep your filthy hands off my guns while I decide what you can & can't do with your uterus" - Sarah Silverman
If you meet a magic pony on the road, kill it. - Playwrite
-I see that PW doesn't have any handy-dandy charts comparing the time it took Obama's foes to get a clearance (if ever) vs. the treatment of Leftie cronies, nor of the number of privacy violations suffered by Rightie groups.
Such a totalitarian.
So your counterargument is: I don't care if it was illegal, you shouldn't pick on us ... ever! You shouldn't even investigate, because -- the 1st Amendment!-Cute charts, but I see that Playdude doesn't provide any charts which compare:
1) The length of the harrasment (designed to disrupt the charity's activities), as previously noted:
2) The privacy violations suffered, which I've detailed many times.
PW continues to try to divert the real point: Obama's political opponents weren't just investigated, they were targeted for a degree of drawn-out harrasment to which Leftie groups were not. But I guess that ignoring the facts makes his amygdala feel better.
Are you listening to yourself?
Marx: Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies.
Lennon: You either get tired fighting for peace, or you die.
-No. But as you seem to now admit, the DEGREE of investigation was not the same. It was not intended to investigate, but to harass and to collect intelligence for partisan policial purposes.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/wisconsi...irs-1436482521
Wisconsin’s campaign to investigate conservative tax-exempt groups has always seemed like an echo of the IRS’s scrutiny of conservative groups applying for tax-exempt status. It turns out that may be more than a coincidence.
Former IRS tax-exempt director Lois Lerner ran the agency’s policy on conservative groups. Kevin Kennedy runs the Wisconsin Government Accountability Board (GAB) that helped prosecutors with their secret John Doe investigation of conservative groups after the 2011 and 2012 recall elections of Governor Scott Walker and state senators.
Emails we’ve seen show that between 2011 and 2013 the two were in contact on multiple occasions...
This timing is significant because those were the years when the IRS increased its harassment of conservative groups and Wisconsin prosecutors gathered information that would lead to the John Doe probe that officially opened in September 2012. Ms. Lerner’s lawyer declined comment...
And once again, let's remind ourselves what type of groups Jimmie gets all misty eyed over because the IRS having the gall (i.e., their job) to subject to scrutiny -
Whaa-whaa, Jimmie, I feel so bad that your a-hole friends have the IRS on their ass, whaa-whaa.White Supremacist Group That Influenced Roof Is Paid For With Your Tax Dollars
That's right. The CCC is a 501(c)(4 )tax-exempt organization which claims to be organized for social welfare. As such, it pays no taxes as other for-profit organizations do, which means those taxes you pay help the CCC stay in the business of promoting white supremacy.
Tax-exempt social welfare groups are supposed to “primarily promote the common good and general welfare of the people of the community as a whole,” according to IRS documents.
The Council of Conservative Citizens explains on its website that its members believe “that the American people and government should remain European in their composition and character…. We also oppose all efforts to mix the races of mankind.”
Groups that espouse hate can be stripped of their tax-exempt status, said Marcus Owens, who ran the IRS’s exempt organizations division in the 1990s. That happened to the neo-Nazi group National Alliance in 1982. The Council of Conservative Citizens has been identified by the Southern Poverty Law Center as a “notorious, racist hate group.”
This is where you might ask why they remain tax-exempt. My dark money article lays it all out for you. They aren't likely to revoke that tax-exempt status any time soon, because Republicans have intimidated and defanged the IRS.
While liberal advocacy groups had pushed for rules on campaign financing and “dark money”—political contributions from undisclosed sources—conservatives manufactured a crisis to pressure IRS Commissioner John Koskinen into delaying a transparency rule that would apply to dark money in the 2016 election cycle.
"The Devil enters the prompter's box and the play is ready to start" - R. Service
“It’s not tax money. The banks have accounts with the Fed … so, to lend to a bank, we simply use the computer to mark up the size of the account that they have with the Fed. It’s much more akin to printing money.” - B.Bernanke
"Keep your filthy hands off my guns while I decide what you can & can't do with your uterus" - Sarah Silverman
If you meet a magic pony on the road, kill it. - Playwrite
-Actually, if PW bothered, he'd have noticed:
http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slate...mpt_501c4.html
...The CCC has been tax exempt for 20 years...
...that Obama's IRS didn't have a problem with THAT group. No, they dedicated their time to harrassing and delaying groups that wanted to give classes on the US Constitution.
I guess the proggies have to prioritize their Enemies List!
Only you would think that a racial hate group gets to continue not to pay taxes because, well, they've been getting away with it for 20 years.-Actually, if PW bothered, he'd have noticed:
http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slate...mpt_501c4.html
...The CCC has been tax exempt for 20 years...
...that Obama's IRS didn't have a problem with THAT group. No, they dedicated their time to harrassing and delaying groups that wanted to give classes on the US Constitution.
I guess the proggies have to prioritize their Enemies List!
No wonder slavery continued for another 80 years after the Constitutional debates on the topic.
"The Devil enters the prompter's box and the play is ready to start" - R. Service
“It’s not tax money. The banks have accounts with the Fed … so, to lend to a bank, we simply use the computer to mark up the size of the account that they have with the Fed. It’s much more akin to printing money.” - B.Bernanke
"Keep your filthy hands off my guns while I decide what you can & can't do with your uterus" - Sarah Silverman
If you meet a magic pony on the road, kill it. - Playwrite
-I think that the Obamanation might have noticed if they weren't so busy picking on Tea Partiers.
Oh, so now your outraged that Obama's IRS didn't look at one group of T-baggers close enough.
Is it me or is the hypocrisy of your post actually gone to a whole new level of horseshit?
Who would have thought it possible?
"The Devil enters the prompter's box and the play is ready to start" - R. Service
“It’s not tax money. The banks have accounts with the Fed … so, to lend to a bank, we simply use the computer to mark up the size of the account that they have with the Fed. It’s much more akin to printing money.” - B.Bernanke
"Keep your filthy hands off my guns while I decide what you can & can't do with your uterus" - Sarah Silverman
If you meet a magic pony on the road, kill it. - Playwrite
-Who said that group were Tea Partiers?
You need to go to more rallies. Don't forget your white sheet.
"The Devil enters the prompter's box and the play is ready to start" - R. Service
“It’s not tax money. The banks have accounts with the Fed … so, to lend to a bank, we simply use the computer to mark up the size of the account that they have with the Fed. It’s much more akin to printing money.” - B.Bernanke
"Keep your filthy hands off my guns while I decide what you can & can't do with your uterus" - Sarah Silverman
If you meet a magic pony on the road, kill it. - Playwrite
1) KKK were Democrats.
2) I guess that racist group weren't Tea Partiers.
3) Still no excuse for the Obamanations deliberate harrasment of their political opponents.
This may be news to you (if your amygdala lets you hear it), pssss, those guys aren't Dems any more and haven't been for decades.
You'd guess wrong. What fantasy world do you live in?
The IRS job is to examine the rational of those seeking tax exclusions. It's their job. You believing that they harassed t-baggers more when the fact is that they went after non-baggers even more is why racist hate groups are getting away with not paying their taxes that everyone else has to pay. The idiocy of today's Right knows no bounds.
"The Devil enters the prompter's box and the play is ready to start" - R. Service
“It’s not tax money. The banks have accounts with the Fed … so, to lend to a bank, we simply use the computer to mark up the size of the account that they have with the Fed. It’s much more akin to printing money.” - B.Bernanke
"Keep your filthy hands off my guns while I decide what you can & can't do with your uterus" - Sarah Silverman
If you meet a magic pony on the road, kill it. - Playwrite
-The guys who put up the rebel battleflag were D's. They didn't stop. Most of them aren't even alive. Sheesh.
-I don't see the evidence.
-That's not what the IRS did. They let Leftie groups go witha wink and a nod. Righties got delay-delay-delay and had their private information made public against IRS policy.
