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Post#326 at 09-01-2015 01:41 PM by JDG 66 [at joined Aug 2010 #posts 2,116]
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Quote Originally Posted by playwrite View Post
Out of literally tens of millions of tax decisions the IRS makes every year, you want us to feel bad for a single bagger organization that got a $50K judgement??...
-The IRS was 100% in the wrong. They did not treat Leftie groups like that. Instead:

Quote Originally Posted by JDG 66 View Post
....the IRS let "progressive" groups slide by, including one very special one:

http://dailycaller.com/2013/05/14/ir...thers-charity/

Lois Lerner, the senior IRS official at the center of the decision to target tea party groups for burdensome tax scrutiny, signed paperwork granting tax-exempt status to the Barack H. Obama Foundation, a shady charity headed by the president’s half-brother that operated illegally for years...

...The National Legal and Policy Center filed an official complaint with the IRS in May 2011 asking why the foundation was being allowed to solicit tax-deductible contributions when it had not even applied for an IRS determination... Nevertheless, a month later, the Barack H. Obama Foundation had flown through the grueling application process. Lerner granted the organization a 501(c) determination and even gave it a retroactive tax exemption dating back to December 2008...

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Quote Originally Posted by JDG 66 View Post
-The IRS was 100% in the wrong. They did not treat Leftie groups like that. Instead:

the IRS let "progressive" groups slide by, including one very special one:
There's not a better example of derp, derp.

I showed you in your own link that a non-bagger group was not only DENIED the tax exemption, but that it lead to an investigation of a larger affiliate that was then also denied.

BUT you once again state "the IRS let progressive groups slide.."

You never change your shtick.

This is why, derps, like yourself, are, at the heart of it, self-righteous hypocritical a-holes.
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Post#328 at 09-01-2015 01:54 PM by JDG 66 [at joined Aug 2010 #posts 2,116]
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Quote Originally Posted by playwrite View Post
... I showed you in your own link that a non-bagger group was not only DENIED the tax exemption, but that it lead to an investigation of a larger affiliate that was then also denied....
-Which word in "The Leftie group's only purpose was partisan, as opposed to the Tea Party groups, which had a non-partisan purpose" does he not understand?

And where was the release of private data? Oh! It didn't happen!

PW doesn't think this slid:

Quote Originally Posted by JDG 66 View Post
...the IRS let "progressive" groups slide by, including one very special one:

http://dailycaller.com/2013/05/14/ir...thers-charity/

Lois Lerner, the senior IRS official at the center of the decision to target tea party groups for burdensome tax scrutiny, signed paperwork granting tax-exempt status to the Barack H. Obama Foundation, a shady charity headed by the president’s half-brother that operated illegally for years...

...The National Legal and Policy Center filed an official complaint with the IRS in May 2011 asking why the foundation was being allowed to solicit tax-deductible contributions when it had not even applied for an IRS determination... Nevertheless, a month later, the Barack H. Obama Foundation had flown through the grueling application process. Lerner granted the organization a 501(c) determination and even gave it a retroactive tax exemption dating back to December 2008...

...
Whatever.
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Post#329 at 09-01-2015 01:57 PM by playwrite [at NYC joined Jul 2005 #posts 10,451]
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Quote Originally Posted by JDG 66 View Post
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-Which word in "The Leftie group's only purpose was partisan, as opposed to the Tea Party groups, which had a non-partisan purpose" does he not understand?

And where was the release of private data? Oh! It didn't happen

Whatever.
I already gave you a 'boo-hoo' for your single poor t-bagger group - and since the baggers bagged $50K judgement, from the Obama court system no less, they're not so poor any more. Here, I'll give you another one - boo-hoo.

So when do I get a boo-hoo for the Iraq invasion?
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Post#330 at 09-01-2015 02:00 PM by JDG 66 [at joined Aug 2010 #posts 2,116]
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Quote Originally Posted by playwrite View Post
since the baggers bagged $50K judgement, from the Obama court system no less, they're not so poor any more...
-Because Obama's IRS abused it's powers. It's nice to see PW admit that.

NEXT!

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So when do I get a boo-hoo for the Iraq invasion?
-Does he mean, the one where we removed a hostile tyranny?







Post#331 at 09-01-2015 04:39 PM by playwrite [at NYC joined Jul 2005 #posts 10,451]
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Quote Originally Posted by JDG 66 View Post
-Because Obama's IRS abused it's powers. It's nice to see PW admit that.

NEXT!



-Does he mean, the one where we removed a hostile tyranny?
Obama's IRS gave one t-bagger group a boo-boo and they collected $50K.

Bush's neocons gave 10s of thosands death and crippled many more, and now we have ISIS.

You thinking that there's some equivalency there just shows how rotted your mind has become.
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Post#332 at 10-12-2015 12:54 PM by JDG 66 [at joined Aug 2010 #posts 2,116]
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Quote Originally Posted by playwrite View Post
...Obama's IRS gave one t-bagger group a boo-boo and they collected $50K...
...because Obama's IRS abused their power for partisan purposes. That abuse amounts to more than a "boo-boo."

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...Bush's neocons gave 10s of thosands death and crippled many more...
1) ...and save tens of thousands more.

2) ...The Clintons were all in favor of it, as were most of the Donkeys.

3) Can anyone imagine the Teleprompter-in-Chief trying to handle the MIddle East if the Ba'athists were still in charge of Iraq. He'd be totally lost.

Not like he is now...

Anyway, the fact that Playdude is clutching at "But, but, IRAQ! IRAQ!" is an indication that he has run out of excuses for IRS actions like this:

Quote Originally Posted by JDG 66 View Post
-https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IRS_targeting_controversy

...During the period in which the applications were being scrutinized, the Cincinnati office of the IRS violated policy by releasing nine confidential pending applications from conservative groups to ProPublica, an investigative reporting organization. ProPublica had made a records request to the office seeking only completed applications, which are public information.

On June 24, 2014 the IRS admitted wrongdoing in the case and paid the organization $50,000 in actual damages...


...and despite several opportunities, Playdude has failed to speculate on why Lois Lerner felt the need to take the 5th...







Post#333 at 10-13-2015 11:51 AM by playwrite [at NYC joined Jul 2005 #posts 10,451]
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Quote Originally Posted by JDG 66 View Post
.... if the Ba'athists were still in charge of Iraq. ...
You moron, who do you think is running ISIS combat forces???

As for the so-called IRS 'scandal,' nobody cares except for you hardcore t-baggers - and you are about the most hated group in America.
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Post#334 at 05-09-2016 12:06 PM by JDG 66 [at joined Aug 2010 #posts 2,116]
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Quote Originally Posted by playwrite View Post
You moron...
-Ooh! PW is getting touchy touchy! I must have drilled into his spinal cord again!

Quote Originally Posted by playwrite View Post
You moron, who do you think is running ISIS combat forces...

1) I don't know Abu Bakr's backgound, but hardly anyone else does, either. But he doesn't seem to be been a Ba'athist.

2) Let me get this straight: PW's argument is that ex-Ba'athists are on ISs side, and he's touting this as a reason that we SHOULDN'T have kicked their asses? If PW is right, then that would be all the more reason to have started killing them in 2003 (and 1991, really)...

3) Iraq is not run by Ba'athists. This puts us in a far better position to fight ISIS than if they were still in power. I think even Playdude can take a step back and realize that. If it were, the Teleprompter-in-Chief would be even more helpless than he is now.

Quote Originally Posted by playwrite View Post
...As for the so-called IRS 'scandal,' nobody cares...
-Huh:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/art...ls_123165.html

Poll: 71 Percent Believe IRS Deliberately Destroyed Emails... 53 percent of voters believe the IRS broke the law by targeting groups with the words “tea party” or “patriots” in their names. This new majority marks an increase from 49 percent in a Rasmussen survey conducted in February of this year...

...PW must have an odd definition of "NOBODY."

At least it looks like PW has finally stopped trying to pretend that things like this never happened:

Quote Originally Posted by JDG 66 View Post
...the IRS let "progressive" groups slide by, including one very special one:

http://dailycaller.com/2013/05/14/ir...thers-charity/

Lois Lerner, the senior IRS official at the center of the decision to target tea party groups for burdensome tax scrutiny, signed paperwork granting tax-exempt status to the Barack H. Obama Foundation, a shady charity headed by the president’s half-brother that operated illegally for years...

...The National Legal and Policy Center filed an official complaint with the IRS in May 2011 asking why the foundation was being allowed to solicit tax-deductible contributions when it had not even applied for an IRS determination... Nevertheless, a month later, the Barack H. Obama Foundation had flown through the grueling application process. Lerner granted the organization a 501(c) determination and even gave it a retroactive tax exemption dating back to December 2008...

...
Quote Originally Posted by JDG 66 View Post
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IRS_targeting_controversy

...During the period in which the applications were being scrutinized, the Cincinnati office of the IRS violated policy by releasing nine confidential pending applications from conservative groups to ProPublica, an investigative reporting organization. ProPublica had made a records request to the office seeking only completed applications, which are public information.

On June 24, 2014 the IRS admitted wrongdoing in the case and paid the organization $50,000 in actual damages
...

I guess evidence trumps his partisanship. I'll consider that a success for me!

Quote Originally Posted by playwrite View Post
...and you are about the most hated group in America...
-Only in PW's befuddled mind. The average American despises proggies, once the facts come out. That's why they have to keep lying about what they believe and keep changing their labels. 43LL, the Leftie main stream media, which tried to cover this up, is despised more, I'll bet. As for the IRS itself...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IRS_targeting_controversy

Responding to a lawsuit filed by Judicial Watch, Thomas Kane, Deputy Assistant Chief Counsel for the IRS, wrote in a sworn declaration that Lerner's Blackberry was "removed or wiped clean of any sensitive or proprietary information and removed as scrap for disposal in June 2012." In a USA Today opinion column, James S. Robbins wrote, "For a scandal that is frequently derided as 'fake,' it is amazing how often real evidence disappears. The disappearing act is so frequent, it is reasonable to wonder whether it is really a systematic attempt to destroy evidence of abuse of power."

I'd like the proggies to answer one simple question: What does Lois Lerner have to hide? I bet he dodges the question...







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Quote Originally Posted by JDG 66 View Post
-Ooh! PW is getting touchy touchy! I must have drilled into his spinal cord again!




1) I don't know Abu Bakr's backgound, but hardly anyone else does, either. But he doesn't seem to be been a Ba'athist.

2) Let me get this straight: PW's argument is that ex-Ba'athists are on ISs side, and he's touting this as a reason that we SHOULDN'T have kicked their asses? If PW is right, then that would be all the more reason to have started killing them in 2003 (and 1991, really)...

3) Iraq is not run by Ba'athists. This puts us in a far better position to fight ISIS than if they were still in power. I think even Playdude can take a step back and realize that. If it were, the Teleprompter-in-Chief would be even more helpless than he is now.



-Huh:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/art...ls_123165.html

Poll: 71 Percent Believe IRS Deliberately Destroyed Emails... 53 percent of voters believe the IRS broke the law by targeting groups with the words “tea party” or “patriots” in their names. This new majority marks an increase from 49 percent in a Rasmussen survey conducted in February of this year...

...PW must have an odd definition of "NOBODY."

At least it looks like PW has finally stopped trying to pretend that things like this never happened:



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I guess evidence trumps his partisanship. I'll consider that a success for me!



-Only in PW's befuddled mind. The average American despises proggies, once the facts come out. That's why they have to keep lying about what they believe and keep changing their labels. 43LL, the Leftie main stream media, which tried to cover this up, is despised more, I'll bet. As for the IRS itself...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IRS_targeting_controversy

Responding to a lawsuit filed by Judicial Watch, Thomas Kane, Deputy Assistant Chief Counsel for the IRS, wrote in a sworn declaration that Lerner's Blackberry was "removed or wiped clean of any sensitive or proprietary information and removed as scrap for disposal in June 2012." In a USA Today opinion column, James S. Robbins wrote, "For a scandal that is frequently derided as 'fake,' it is amazing how often real evidence disappears. The disappearing act is so frequent, it is reasonable to wonder whether it is really a systematic attempt to destroy evidence of abuse of power."

I'd like the proggies to answer one simple question: What does Lois Lerner have to hide? I bet he dodges the question...
OMG, a Rasmussen poll???

You're either really desperate or even dumber than I had ever imagined.

Yawn.
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Quote Originally Posted by playwrite View Post
...Yawn.
1) Notice that PW doesn't attack the facts, he attacks the pollster.

2) I'm still waiting for PW to explain what Loris Liar thought she had to hide.







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Quote Originally Posted by JDG 66 View Post
1) Notice that PW doesn't attack the facts, he attacks the pollster.

2) I'm still waiting for PW to explain what Loris Liar thought she had to hide.
It's all been covered before, over and over, again, up thread.

But you know that. For those that don't, take a look at the "Glick's Schtick" thread to see his rinse, repeat, disappear, rinse, repeat, disappear, technique. He'd make a fine propagandist.

http://www.fourthturning.com/forum/s...887#post377887

But just to add, Lois Lerner is not Hillary Clinton. Too bad, it would have been almost as much fun watching her tear yet another a-hole for those GOP critters like Hillary did on Benghazi!

Mufasa!
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http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...ed-release-se/

...judges ordered the IRS to quickly turn over the full list of groups it targeted so that a class-action lawsuit, filed by the NorCal Tea Party Patriots, can proceed. The judges also accused the Justice Department lawyers, who are representing the IRS in the case, of acting in bad faith — compounding the initial targeting — by fighting the disclosure...



Quote Originally Posted by playwrite View Post
...Lois Lerner is not Hillary Clinton. Too bad, it would have been almost as much fun watching her tear yet another a-hole for those GOP critters like Hillary did on Benghazi!
-Probably by "losing" evidence. In PW's world, "losing" evidence constitutes "tearing an a-hole."







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Quote Originally Posted by JDG 66 View Post
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...ed-release-se/

...judges ordered the IRS to quickly turn over the full list of groups it targeted so that a class-action lawsuit, filed by the NorCal Tea Party Patriots, can proceed. The judges also accused the Justice Department lawyers, who are representing the IRS in the case, of acting in bad faith — compounding the initial targeting — by fighting the disclosure...




-Probably by "losing" evidence. In PW's world, "losing" evidence constitutes "tearing an a-hole."
What's funny is when one googles this and gets nothing put links to the right wingnut propaganda machine.

It's just not that no one other than the wingnuts care about this any more, it is also that the people in the know are licking their chops at setting up the next a-hole tearing of you morons

You all seem to have a problem with basic counting. The number of Progressive groups that the IRS screened exceeds the number of t-bagger groups. We keep telling you all this, and you either can't count or you can't understand what that means.

Tearing morons new a-holes is not only easy, but a lot of fun. Stay tuned, but psss, don't tell any of your other morons and spoil the fun.
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