My goodness, I agree. Maybe you can give him my dodo awards too? I'd gladly surrender them
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My goodness, I agree. Maybe you can give him my dodo awards too? I'd gladly surrender them
Does anyone know the numbers for the USA?
How long must average workers in Europe toil to make what their bosses earn in an hour?
http://www.economist.com/blogs/graph...%2Faweekswages
“It took around ten days for the average Italian worker to make the €767 ($957) that his firm’s chief executive made in an hour in 2012, according to calculations by The Economist. Combining private-sector pay figures from the Federation of European Employers, a trade group, with data on the average hours worked per week (only data for the whole economy were available) gives the approximate number of days needed for employees to match their bosses’ hourly stipends. The pay gap between the top brass and the lowliest worker is generally greatest in former Soviet countries—and Spain and Italy. The disparity is smallest in Nordic countries, and in Switzerland, where presumably everyone is paid well.”…
I assume the time required would vary, but 12 to 50 days seems about right.Originally Posted by radind
Marx: Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies.
Lennon: You either get tired fighting for peace, or you die.
A google search turned up that article as #1, and quoted a portion that said the average CEO makes 244 times more than the average worker. But the quote was not in the article linked. So, 244 hours, so about 30 and a half 8-hour workdays.
Wunderbar, Herr Ragnarök! Nice work on someone who has read his Plato too uncritically.
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The greatest evil is not now done in those sordid "dens of crime" (or) even in concentration camps and labour camps. In those we see its final result. But it is conceived and ordered... in clean, carpeted, warmed and well-lighted offices, by (those) who do not need to raise their voices. Hence, naturally enough, my symbol for Hell is something like the bureaucracy of a police state or the office of a thoroughly nasty business concern."
― C.S. Lewis, The Screwtape Letters
Is it any wonder that America has so many domestic servants?
The greatest evil is not now done in those sordid "dens of crime" (or) even in concentration camps and labour camps. In those we see its final result. But it is conceived and ordered... in clean, carpeted, warmed and well-lighted offices, by (those) who do not need to raise their voices. Hence, naturally enough, my symbol for Hell is something like the bureaucracy of a police state or the office of a thoroughly nasty business concern."
― C.S. Lewis, The Screwtape Letters
My first prediction of the 2016 election: Senator Pat Toomey is going down.
Approval for Senator Pat Toomey (Reactionary, Pennsylvania) is abysmal.
http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/m...mpetitive.htmlPPP's first poll of the 2016 Pennsylvania Senate race finds it picking up pretty much where the 2010 Senate race left off- with Pat Toomey holding a narrow edge over Joe Sestak. Toomey leads Sestak 40/36, similar to his 2 point margin of victory the first time the duo faced off.
28% approval for an incumbent Governor or Senator is horrible. He can't crack 45% support against potential opponents still comparatively unknown, which is awful. At the beginning of the campaign season the typical incumbent Senator or Governor needs to be at 44% approval to have roughly a 50% chance of winning re-election. The typical incumbent can campaign on his record against the average challenger and win if he won the last time if his approval rating is at 44% because
(1) approval ratings on the average go down by about 6% on the average from a vote share once one starts legislating or governing, and
(2) effective campaigning is good for getting that 6% back.
(3) the incumbent as a rule showed some ability to campaign in the previous election.
(4) the incumbent was typically a good fit for the state in the previous election, and the political climate of a state rarely changes wildly over four to six years.
Elected incumbents with approval below 44% lose most of the time -- if they run. They might lack a clue that they are as unpopular as they are; they might make fresh promises (why didn't they achieve those while in office) or run from their records. This does not apply to appointed Senators or Governors who have never shown their ability to campaign for the office that they hold. (Silver is mute on this, but appointed incumbents probably need approval near 50% to be elected).
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/...mbent-50-rule/
Is that a hard-and-fast rule? No. Someone who begins with 50% approval might be pulled down by an incompetent campaign, an unpopular President, an economic meltdown, and an unusually-strong challenger, as with George Allen in Virginia in 2006. But that is an outlier. Of course in the aftermath of Citizens United, political fronts of the GOP such as "Freedom (to crack the whip) Works", "(Double) Crossroads America", and "Americans for Peonage" can flood the media with Orwellian propaganda against anyone to the left of Francisco Franco and give an edge to the orthodox believer in plutocratic oligarchy; I expect to see that again in 2016, and that may still make Election 2016 awful.
The graph for data from 2006 to 2009:
If you are wondering about many of the incumbent losers of 2010 and 2014... they weren't doing so well early, almost as a rule.
From February 2010:
http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/m...coln-poll.htmlJohn Boozman will enter the Arkansas Senate race this weekend as the frontrunner. He leads incumbent Blanche Lincoln by an amazing 56-33 margin in our first poll of the race.
Lincoln's approval rating has sunk to just 27%, with 62% of voters in the state disapproving of her. She's at a middling 51% even within her own party and just 17% of independents and 9% of Republicans are happy with how she's doing.
To be sure, having an approval rating at 28% twenty-two months before the election isn't quite as bad as having a 27% approval rating nine months before the election... but not even Barack Obama can campaign his way out of that level of disapproval.
I call it here: Republicans are going to cut their losses with Senator Toomey very early. He's a bad fit for Pennsylvania, barely getting elected in the wave election of 2010, the sort who loses in a high-participation Presidential election. They probably have a better chance of picking up an open Senate seat in California than they have of holding onto this one.
I'm not calling a Democratic wave yet. But even in a confirmation of the 2010 wave election for the Republicans, Senator Toomey will almost certainly lose. All polling was conducted before the State of the Union Address. Nobody can campaign to victory from approval in the 20s.
The greatest evil is not now done in those sordid "dens of crime" (or) even in concentration camps and labour camps. In those we see its final result. But it is conceived and ordered... in clean, carpeted, warmed and well-lighted offices, by (those) who do not need to raise their voices. Hence, naturally enough, my symbol for Hell is something like the bureaucracy of a police state or the office of a thoroughly nasty business concern."
― C.S. Lewis, The Screwtape Letters
Warren/Frank vs.Palin/Huckabee
Wouldn't that be fun?!
" ... a man of notoriously vicious and intemperate disposition."
Senator Richard Burr (R-NC) is polling at 33% approval. Chuck Schumer (D-NY) is at 62% approval.
Three data points do not themselves suggest a Democratic wave election in 2016 -- but those three do not contradict it.
The greatest evil is not now done in those sordid "dens of crime" (or) even in concentration camps and labour camps. In those we see its final result. But it is conceived and ordered... in clean, carpeted, warmed and well-lighted offices, by (those) who do not need to raise their voices. Hence, naturally enough, my symbol for Hell is something like the bureaucracy of a police state or the office of a thoroughly nasty business concern."
― C.S. Lewis, The Screwtape Letters
Oh, look!
http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slate...tial_race.html
Go, Caribou Barbie!
" ... a man of notoriously vicious and intemperate disposition."
How could she? Didn't she get the message in 2009? Didn't the mangled diction and the dysfunctional family life of Sarah Palin put most of us off? When at the 2008 Republican National Convention her unmarried, pregnant daughter greeted the lame excuse of a man who had impregnated her... I was shocked! (No, I am well aware of the commonness of unwed pregnancy, but in the allegedly-rarefied air of a Party Convention? Just think of what the Republicans would have said of a family member of of a high-profile Democrat getting such attention.)
Yes, she is dumb enough to make a fool of herself. She made the horrid "Real America" speech in Chillicothe, Ohio, well out of sight of any great urban towers -- in the presence of microphones with the stylized channel numbers "4", "6", and "10" of Columbus-area television. Her speech may have done well in the rural America of grain fields and cattle pastures, but not in the "Unreal America" which has plenty of asphalt and concrete... that is, places with high population densities. Columbus broadcasters made the tape available all over America, and it didn't go over well in such "unreal" places as Toledo, Cleveland, Dayton, Cincinnati, Columbus... or for that matter, large cities in Colorado, Nevada, Virginia, Florida, and Indiana.
I was heavily involved in an analysis of electoral polls, and I saw her projected to lose states that signal a Democratic landslide for President. Texas?
She's the "Lena Lamont" of American politics (the fictional character of Singin' In the Rain, a silent film star with an over-inflated ego but a horrible voice and diction -- and no clue that her talent is going obsolete). I just hope that she does not turn into the female star of the logical sequel, Sunset Boulevard
I have an explanation. Sarah Palin did very badly in states with large numbers of non-native speakers of English. Most of us have had conversations with non-native speakers of English. The rule for communicating with such people is to cleave as closely to the formal register of the phrasebook and the formal teaching of English as a second language, no matter how proficient that person's English is. Don't make it difficult; this applies whether the person's native language is Korean, Arabic, or even Spanish. Never expect anyone not a native speaker of English to understand informal, slangy English/ Such asks too much.
She spent more than four years getting a college degree, and at several different colleges., none of them well rated I graduated in four years attending only one highly-rated college.
The greatest evil is not now done in those sordid "dens of crime" (or) even in concentration camps and labour camps. In those we see its final result. But it is conceived and ordered... in clean, carpeted, warmed and well-lighted offices, by (those) who do not need to raise their voices. Hence, naturally enough, my symbol for Hell is something like the bureaucracy of a police state or the office of a thoroughly nasty business concern."
― C.S. Lewis, The Screwtape Letters
I've been salivating for the opportunity to vote against him... for many many many years.
And I blame the Democratic party for his election. Even with the Republican wave of 2010, the Democrats of Pennsylvania shot themselves in the foot by defeating Arlen Spector for having switched parties when he did. I recall Odin commenting that they'd easily get rid of the DINO.
No one in the Democratic party stopped to look for a second and see that Pennsylvanians kept voting for him because they liked the fact that he was a powerful senator in his own right. Again, they shot themselves in the foot IMO.
Now if only our State Assembly could be pried loose of the uber-Republican control it's under, but that's a pipe dream...
~Chas'88
"There have always been people who say: "The war will be over someday." I say there's no guarantee the war will ever be over. Naturally a brief intermission is conceivable. Maybe the war needs a breather, a war can even break its neck, so to speak. But the kings and emperors, not to mention the pope, will always come to its help in adversity. ON the whole, I'd say this war has very little to worry about, it'll live to a ripe old age."
I hate Michigan state politics so much that I would rather be elsewhere in the First World. The Koch syndicate raped Michigan much as it raped Indiana, Ohio, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania.
The greatest evil is not now done in those sordid "dens of crime" (or) even in concentration camps and labour camps. In those we see its final result. But it is conceived and ordered... in clean, carpeted, warmed and well-lighted offices, by (those) who do not need to raise their voices. Hence, naturally enough, my symbol for Hell is something like the bureaucracy of a police state or the office of a thoroughly nasty business concern."
― C.S. Lewis, The Screwtape Letters
If the people were smart, they would realize the need for something like restorationism or something similar. That way we could have policies that advance progress without the taint of the baby boomers pacifism. The reason the right is so entrenched is because they successfully painted the left as a bunch of naïve tree-hugging pacifists since the 1970s. Restorationism or something similar would easily defeat such arguments by promoting original ideas about the state and its relationship with the populace.
Hillary Clinton to Start 2016 Campaign in April, Politico Says
Monday, 26 Jan 2015 07:32 AM
Hillary Clinton may start her campaign for the White House in early April with the involvement of her husband, former President Bill Clinton, and a strategy to court liberal Democrats, Politico reported.
Clinton approved a preliminary campaign budget and several key hires shortly after Christmas, signaling to advisers that her likelihood of running is 100 percent, according to the publication’s website Monday.
While many of Clinton’s top campaign advisers have already signed on under likely campaign chairman John Podesta, one new name being floated for communications director is White House Communications Director Jennifer Palmieri, Politico said. Bill Clinton has also been deeply involved in the campaign from the start, unlike when Hillary Clinton ran against Barack Obama in 2008 and he was isolated. He’s already warned her that Jeb Bush is the real Republican threat, with New Jersey Governor Chris Christie seen as “just a sideshow.”
The Clinton campaign’s strategy to avoid strong competition from the left is to court the party’s liberals, such as former Labor Secretary Robert Reich and civil-rights leader Representative John Lewis, the Georgia Democrat, according to the article. She’s already won the backing of former Howard Dean and Senator Al Franken, of Minnesota.
Read Latest Breaking News from Newsmax.com http://www.Newsmax.com/Newsfront/hil...#ixzz3PxbDrCIO
I'm proud to be a "tree-hugging, baby boomer pacifist." To move away from war and preserve the planet are the 2 key '60s revolutionary issues that define our times for the next 90+ years.
Like Mr. Brower said, you've been raped along with several other states. I wonder if these states have some problem with coming forward and reporting the crime
Pennsylvania seems to be on the mend, soundly rejecting their Koch Brothers syndicate governor. Sen. Toomey will be next to go. It will be necessary for citizens in PA and the other raped states to get rid of gerrymandering, so that politicians cannot draw districts just to preserve their own power. Then the PA Assembly can handle the rapists too, just like we did in CA.
Let me correct that:
Warren/Frank vs.Rubio/Huckabee
Why Frank for VP? The man is in his 70's. Surely, there's a younger Dem. who isn't a total corporate stooge like Cuomo is and looks good on TV--which is what really matters after all.
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Please ... not Cuomo. Cuomo the Younger is the Democratic analog of Bush the Younger. He's not trustworthy on any level. I would be happier with the Democrat who ran against him: Zephyr Teachout. She's relatively young, but she's whip smart and has all the right attitudes. She's a young EW. This is probably not her time ... but it may be soon.
Marx: Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies.
Lennon: You either get tired fighting for peace, or you die.
I don't think herbal tee was endorsing Cuomo; rather, he was calling Cuomo a "total corporate stooge". At least, that's how I read it.
I want people to know that peace is possible even in this stupid day and age. Prem Rawat, June 8, 2008
She got the message and learned how to make a lot of money for herself. The presidental campaign posturing is good PR for some of those supposedly in the race.
You're right, I read it too fast, and misread it. I still like Zephyr Teachout, though. She managed to get 34% of the primary vote against Cuomo with a campaign warchest of $600,000.
Marx: Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies.
Lennon: You either get tired fighting for peace, or you die.
You graduated from a highly rated college in four years to establish yourself and accomplish what during your adult life? Posting your views here on a daily basis to a preferred group of people isn't much as far as signs of personal establishment and accomplishment. Do you speak Spanish, Arabic and Korean or do you still rely on paid/volunteer translators like your politicians?
Oh my, the missing word does muddle the meaning. Jenny is correct. The sentence is supposed to read: Surely there's a younger Dem. who isn't a total corporate stooge like Cuomo is and looks good on TV--which is what really matters after all.
And the original has been fixed.
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