The two hallmarks -- repetition with the intent to incite.Originally Posted by Marx & Lennon
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The two hallmarks -- repetition with the intent to incite.I agree.
The greatest evil is not now done in those sordid "dens of crime" (or) even in concentration camps and labour camps. In those we see its final result. But it is conceived and ordered... in clean, carpeted, warmed and well-lighted offices, by (those) who do not need to raise their voices. Hence, naturally enough, my symbol for Hell is something like the bureaucracy of a police state or the office of a thoroughly nasty business concern."
― C.S. Lewis, The Screwtape Letters
The absence of self-awareness behind this is really funny.
Dodo sighting in the US Senate
* dodo award to my Senator for not checking his sources before babbling warmongering nonsense.Senator Inhofe Sponsors Ukraine Military Weapons Bill Based on Images of Russian Soldiers in Georgia in 2008
On February 11, US Senator Jim Inhofe authored a Bill to Arm Ukraine with Lethal Military Aid.
Mr. President I rise today to introduce my bill that authorizes the President to provide lethal weapons to the Government of Ukraine in order to defend itself against Russian-backed rebel separatists in eastern Ukraine.Fake Pictures
On January 15, 2015, NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg stated, For several months we have seen the presence of Russian forces in eastern Ukraine, as well as a substantial increase in Russian heavy equipment such as tanks, artillery, and advanced air defense systems.
These photographs were given to me by Lt Col Semen Semenchenko, the commander of Donbas Volunteer Assault Battalion and newly elected member of the parliament of Ukraine, during our meeting on 13 Nov last year.
The first set of pictures show Russian troops in T-72 tanks, BTR armored personnel carriers, and BMP infantry fighting vehicles entering eastern Ukraine, waiving Russian flags. This is not simply supporting separatists it is an invasion of the Ukraine by Russia.
The second set of picture were taken by Ukrainian soldiers on the front line in eastern Ukraine.
According to Ukraine and NATO, there are 5,000 Russian troops swarming Ukraine with more coming in every day.
Thus one might expect Senator Inhofe to have a basket of images to use as justification for US warmongering.
Instead, it turns out the pictures were fake. They show Russian troops in Georgia in 2008.
Colonel Cassad Explains
Via translation from Colonel Cassad Photos that were the Basis of Preparation of the Law on the Supply of US Weapons to Ukraine Were Fake.US Republican senator Jim Inhofe was furious to find out that Ukrainian parliament gave him fake pictures as evidence the presence of Russian troops in Ukraine. The senator gave these pictures to the Washington Free Beacon for publication. Readers immediately noticed something was wrong.Inhofe Tricked
Later publication reported that the images "raised a number of issues," and this fact is being checked.
"Some of the photos of Russian military were made in 2008 during the conflict in Georgia" admitted the journalists. Other photos were taken years before in other armed conflicts. Be that as it may, these images were transferred to a reception Senator Jim Inhofe in December 2014 under the guise of photo chronicle of events in Ukraine.
No major western news site has picked up this story.
I did find this Free Beacon story Inhofe Criticizes Ukrainian Group for Providing Misleading Photos.image: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-GCoayN_k9u...an%2BTanks.pngInhofe Tweets
Following publication of this story, serious questions have been raised about the authenticity of some of the photographs provided by Sen. Jim Inhofe (R., Okla.). Several images of the Russian convoys appear to have been taken in 2008, during Russias conflict with Georgia. Given the similarities between the earlier images and those provided by the senators office, the Washington Free Beacon is investigating further and will update as necessary.
When asked about the discrepancies, Donelle Harder, Inhofes communications director, said that the office is checking back with its sources.
These were presented to the Armed Services Committee from a delegation from Ukraine in December, Harder said. In December, we talked to them about publishing the photos and giving them the credit, and they were fine with that. We thoroughly checked our sources again prior to releasing the photos, and felt confident proceeding because the photos also match reporting. We are currently making calls to our sources.
UPDATE 7:10 P.M.: Sen. Inhofe said in a statement: The Ukrainian parliament members who gave us these photos in print form as if it came directly from a camera really did themselves a disservice. We felt confident to release these photos because the images match the reporting of what is going on in the region. I was furious to learn one of the photos provided now appears to be falsified from an AP photo taken in 2008. This doesnt change the fact that there is plenty of evidence Russia has made advances into the country with T-72 tanks and that pro-Russian separatists have been killing Ukrainians in cold blood.
The Washington Free Beacon regrets the error.
Tweet: What a f'ing joke. WFB runs photos from Inhofe as proof Russia arming Ukraine. At least 1 from Russo-Georgian War.
Response 1: "One of them goes back to at least 2012:
Response 2: "Also from Russo-Georgian War. You can see structures in other photographs"
Response 3: "So @jiminhofe's 'new intel' on Ukraine armor consists, in part, of 2 photos from Ossetia, 1 AFP wire service photo"
Mike "Mish" Shedlock
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* runner up dodo awards for MSM for not catching this FUBAR
MBTI step II type : Expressive INTP
There's an annual contest at Bond University, Australia, calling for the most appropriate definition of a contemporary term:
The winning student wrote:
"Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a piece of shit by the clean end."
Ahhhhhhhhhhh, that's like asking a cat to refrain from using its scratching post.
MBTI step II type : Expressive INTP
There's an annual contest at Bond University, Australia, calling for the most appropriate definition of a contemporary term:
The winning student wrote:
"Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a piece of shit by the clean end."
Who needs to use gas chambers in a world with nuclear bombs?
No, It is the majority of the current political spectrum that lacks self-awareness. A refusal of Americans to recognize the nature of the enemy that attacked us and to take the measures necessary to ensure the nation's security. This in my opinion derives from a fundamental refusal of American political spectrum to carry out foreign policy based on the fundamental laws of nature. Take WW2 for instance, no one advocated a preemptive mobilization until after Hitler began to invade is neighbors, later on when the tide of war turned, policies derived from starry-eyed notions of "a world without war" prompted decisions such as unconditional surrender that prolonged the war by at least a year, maybe two years even. In that respect Stalin of all people was more of a realist than FDR. The War effort in both WW1 and WW2 should have focused on revenge on the enemies who attacked us, not on such idealistic notions as making the world safe for democracy.The absence of self-awareness behind this is really funny.
Last edited by Cynic Hero '86; 02-14-2015 at 06:10 AM.
Enough of your gibbering nonsense. Stop being a pussy, join the military. Be a part of that meritocratic elite you keep babbling about.
You must have a very low threshold of detecting humor, especially where others fail to find any.The absence of self-awareness behind this is really funny.
How does my posting compare to the "Only Reconstructionism" schtick?
The greatest evil is not now done in those sordid "dens of crime" (or) even in concentration camps and labour camps. In those we see its final result. But it is conceived and ordered... in clean, carpeted, warmed and well-lighted offices, by (those) who do not need to raise their voices. Hence, naturally enough, my symbol for Hell is something like the bureaucracy of a police state or the office of a thoroughly nasty business concern."
― C.S. Lewis, The Screwtape Letters
What, you criticizing other people for dogmatism and repetitiousness is quite funny.
And since your posts consistently break down to "I like the classics" and "Fascism is nigh!", I find your worldviews to be quite complementary. It's really a differences in tone more than anything else.
Last edited by JordanGoodspeed; 02-14-2015 at 05:25 PM.
I'll remember that line of yours next time you criticize me for responding to troll vandal's postsAhhhhhhhhhhh, that's like asking a cat to refrain from using its scratching post.
If you want lots of comedy cheap, then you can easily find DVD sets of seasons of The Cosby Show, which are funny if you ignore his not-so-humorous deeds which could have never been shown on network television. It's cheap now because of the not-so-humorous deeds of the star.
For good reason the classics of literature were long seen as essential to developing the educated leadership of Western countries. As we go away from them we find something terribly lacking among our economic, political, and administrative leaders. Classical music? I might remind you that the conspirators of July 20, 1944 needed it to keep their sanity as they became increasingly disillusioned with Der Phooey. Cinema? A legitimate art form, especially when the script mattered more than did special effects. Of course I must admit my fondness for a certain scene in Raiders of the Lost Ark in which the bad guys toy with Divine Power in a blasphemous effort to turn It to the service of their nefarious purposes and find themselves... just watch it. (You get a hint as the Power within the Ark of the Covenant burns a Nazi insignia off the crate encasing it).And since your posts consistently breaks down to "I like the classics" and "Fascism is nigh!", I find your worldviews to be quite complementary. It's really a differences in tone more than anything else.
Of course fascism of any kind is political depravity, and it never flourishes where much depravity is already the norm in life. For a nation, fascism is a long road trip with a drunk driver with a ready supply of booze and no police on the highway.
The greatest evil is not now done in those sordid "dens of crime" (or) even in concentration camps and labour camps. In those we see its final result. But it is conceived and ordered... in clean, carpeted, warmed and well-lighted offices, by (those) who do not need to raise their voices. Hence, naturally enough, my symbol for Hell is something like the bureaucracy of a police state or the office of a thoroughly nasty business concern."
― C.S. Lewis, The Screwtape Letters
Have watched all the Indiana Jones movies, including the blasphemous one with the aliens and the Commies. Also, you're an idiot. Cosby? WTF? Have you considered suicide? Not necessarily recommending it, I just want you to know that it is always an option.
Also, once again, thanks for proving my point. You and Cynic are pretty much identical. Have you ever considered speaking to a psychiatrist and getting a diagnosis for some form of autism-spectrum disorder?
Never underestimate the modern neo-liberal Democratic Party's ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory!
To recommend thrift to the poor is both grotesque and insulting. It is like advising a man who is starving to eat less.
-Oscar Wilde, The Soul of Man under Socialism
I assume the battle will be won by the candidate least likely to piss-off a majority of the people willing to go out on a cold November day and vote. That's not much to say in a positive vein; I know. Hillary's negatives are off the chart, but most of the GOP hopefuls have a least as low a potential, so the non-loser is hard to identify at the moment. By summer, we should know more.Never underestimate the modern neo-liberal Democratic Party's ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory!
There's a lot to be said for a Bush III v Clinton II contest. No matter who wins, the public may finally have to start looking elsewhere. There's a nugget of virtue buried in there.
Marx: Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies.
Lennon: You either get tired fighting for peace, or you die.
I am not sure if el Caudillo is a troll.
Restorationism would constitute a reformation of American warfighting. I mean a reformation in the reasons why we would get involved in wars in the first place. No more police actions based on pie in the sky world peace notions. Our future wars should be for the purpose of conquests, acquisitions and spoil.
Why not just threaten to nuke anyone who doesn't give up whatever is asked for by the imposed deadline?
Honest theft is always more refreshing.
Trolling can be intentional or not. If it's unintentional, then all the more reason to be wary. There are some ideas that just need to be ignored.
Marx: Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies.
Lennon: You either get tired fighting for peace, or you die.
You neglect there is a crucial difference. I don't have Cynic Hero on ignore. You have stated that you have "troll vandal" on ignore. That implies that in the case that if we were both cats, then you'd prefer that the "scratching post" in question be locked away in a dark closet, while I prefer mine out in the open. So, I think you'd prefer to frolic with catnip, than use a scratching post.I'll remember that line of yours next time you criticize me for responding to troll vandal's posts
MBTI step II type : Expressive INTP
There's an annual contest at Bond University, Australia, calling for the most appropriate definition of a contemporary term:
The winning student wrote:
"Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a piece of shit by the clean end."
Our future wars should be for the purpose of conquests, acquisitions and spoil. [ The nuclear gun is the device for extortion. ]
There. fixed.
Perhaps we can have a website to unhide theft schemes and perps.Honest theft is always more refreshing.
1. Payday loan companies.
2. Any junk fee, regardless of source. The intent is to map said fee as a tax and calculate its real rate.
3. Any law which impedes competition and/or shields multinats from competition. The web site would compute the additional price of any good / service provided by multinat(s). Think health insurance pricing.
4. Look at the longboat below. Each economic entity which is a racket would get a score from 1 - 10 , least bad to wretched. Each point would be denoted by a longboat.
Why of course, just call it operation "Viking raids".
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Of utmost service to CH.
MBTI step II type : Expressive INTP
There's an annual contest at Bond University, Australia, calling for the most appropriate definition of a contemporary term:
The winning student wrote:
"Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a piece of shit by the clean end."
I have to admit that my two lines above are the driest lines that I can recall writing here. :Our future wars should be for the purpose of conquests, acquisitions and spoil. [ The nuclear gun is the device for extortion. ]
There. fixed.
Perhaps we can have a website to unhide theft schemes and perps.
1. Payday loan companies.
2. Any junk fee, regardless of source. The intent is to map said fee as a tax and calculate its real rate.
3. Any law which impedes competition and/or shields multinats from competition. The web site would compute the additional price of any good / service provided by multinat(s). Think health insurance pricing.
4. Look at the longboat below. Each economic entity which is a racket would get a score from 1 - 10 , least bad to wretched. Each point would be denoted by a longboat.
Why of course, just call it operation "Viking raids".
Flag for operation for Cynic Hero::
Of utmost service to CH. Hey man, I know this stuff, it's in the genes.
Notice in Cynic Hero's sentence the word "our." Somehow, wars are about identifying or joining with an "our" group-- perhaps you can call it a syndicate-- to steal spoils from "their" group.
But what if the "our" does not afford you any advantages? For example, blacks get no benefit from their having been a part of "our." And it's rather arbitrary. I am part of this "our" Cynic refers to, because I was born in the USA and happen now to reside on this side of the border.
And if we just have world peace, then we would all be sharing the world anyway, as John Lennon said. So what's the need for wars, then? Just have fair trade and commerce and the whole world is "our" world.
I'm not so sure war is in our genes. It's mostly an invention of civilization.Of utmost service to CH.
Yes, the "vision" if you will he has is for sure inferior to the Viking ways. Vikings considered theft to be very dishonorable even whilst raiding. Raiding was to be done upfront.
Well sure. I think that any system based on some sort of a few select elite is seriously flawed. China's odd form of capitalism and ours likewise share quite a few traits. The same can of course be said of any authoritarian based system. A few select elites + a few toadies get the goodies while propaganda is used to confuse the proles.But what if the "our" does not afford you any advantages? For example, blacks get no benefit from their having been a part of "our." And it's rather arbitrary. I am part of this "our" Cynic refers to, because I was born in the USA and happen now to reside on this side of the border.
There be stupid people, that's why. If you consider the state of who gets what now in the US, why would anyone in their right mind join the military? A bunch of tours in the Mideast is not my idea of a good time.And if we just have world peace, then we would all be sharing the world anyway, as John Lennon said. So what's the need for wars, then? Just have fair trade and commerce and the whole world is "our" world.
Are you sure? War may be just a scaled up version of fist fights.I'm not so sure war is in our genes. It's mostly an invention of civilization.
http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/Story?id=498707&page=1
MBTI step II type : Expressive INTP
There's an annual contest at Bond University, Australia, calling for the most appropriate definition of a contemporary term:
The winning student wrote:
"Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a piece of shit by the clean end."
Sure, fighting/territoriality is in our genes, so to speak, and in that of most larger animals; although really according to Rupert Sheldrake it is more a matter of learned habits that determines these things, and genes are "over-rated." Civilization is what caused it to "scale up" and make it organized, and thus it became "war."
But we can learn better; it's what the sixties revolution is all about. It's the cycle of revolution; by its end at the turn of the 22nd century, we may have learned quite a bit about the ways of peace, if the revolution is carried through. Much to the dismay of the cynic heroes I'm sure.
However if you are wrong (and it turns out the Nietzche's forecasts for the 22nd and 23rd centuries end up being correct), the Lastmen and Atomized Men of our current era (which killed God) will go down in flames, and, the Ubermench will rule. So maybe CH is not completely wrong even though we may disagree with some of his particulars.
