Originally Posted by princeofcats67

That's good to hear. So, you still think using SEALs,
as opposed to an airstrike, is akin to being a gangster?

I thought we were done with that comparison.

Don't worry, Eric. You're not so bad. There's plenty of posters around
that are interested in your political opinions. I'm just not one of them.
(I fully understand that you don't like to be given unasked-for advice,
so I'll respect that, and refrain from doing so. )

What? No kitty picture to illustrate this?

Let's see:
Serve
Return service
Volley
Volley
...
Volley
...
Volley
Volley
...
ad infinitum

Originally Posted by Eric the Green

What? No kitty picture to illustrate this?

I can probably help with that.

Originally Posted by Eric the Green

I thought we were done with that comparison.

So did I, but you keep bringing it up.
President Obama's use of SEALs -> Al Capone -> Nomad = B. U. L. L. S. H. I. T.


Prince

PS:

Originally Posted by Eric

What? No kitty picture to illustrate this?

Ok, Eric. Here you go(!):

Originally Posted by nihilist moron

Me neither neither.
Other than that, I have no idea wtf you guys are arguing about. OBL is dead. Let's move on.
As for riots and such, did anyone else notice our prez using the word "thugs" when describing the rioters? I thought that was supposed to be a racial slur now.

ETA
It looks like somebody did notice.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vid...he_n-word.html

Now that is interesting.
(btw, thanks for posting that)


Prince

PS: It appears Baltimore Mayor Stephanie Rawlings-Blake has attempted to
clarify her use of the word "thug". She's made some mistakes, but I'm willing
to cut her a little slack, because this isn't the sort of thing I would expect her
(or most politicians, really)to have experience in. And, there'll be plenty of
time for second-guessing. Plus, she's kinda 'hot'!

People for the American Way sent me this (to me) interesting article (kitty cats can go off to sleep now)

(quote)
2016 Republican Candidates Report
As the GOP embraces the reactionary politics and anti-government zealotry of the Tea Party, it is steadily purging “moderates” and empowering extremists. Nothing shows this trend more clearly than the lineup of potential Republican presidential candidates.

In order to compete in early caucus and primary states such as Iowa and South Carolina, Republican presidential hopefuls must engage with a voter base that leans significantly farther to the right than the average American voter. Pro-corporate groups, often working outside of the public eye, have invested millions of dollars in creating a political infrastructure that has pushed the party to the extreme fringe, leading candidates to increasingly rely on a small class of mega-donors who seek to bankroll the campaigns of their personal favorites.

Candidates are already competing to see who is more skeptical of the science behind climate change, critical of any reform of America’s immigration system or financial industry, and vocal about the dangers of a Big Government that is purportedly crushing religious freedom and bent on seizing people’s guns. As the GOP moves farther to the right, its presidential candidates are moving with it.

Jeb Bush
Ben Carson
Chris Christie
Ted Cruz
Carly Fiorina
Lindsey Graham
Mike Huckabee
Bobby Jindal
Rand Paul
Rick Perry
Marco Rubio
Rick Santorum
Scott Walker
(unquote)
A good expose follows each one of these (mostly young according to JPT) reactionary guys.
http://www.pfaw.org/rww-in-focus/201...campaign=april

I mean, really; the choice is being made pretty simple, or "black and white." We either turn our country over to the corporate thugs completely, or we dump a party that has fallen off the deep right-wing end. Do we blindly follow the blind into the ditch? Or do we make a last-ditch effort to straighten ourselves out before the 4T ends and it's too late?

The "bored" members here can sleep through the 4T if they like. But Prince should take Copperfield's advice and sleep through election day too.

Originally Posted by Eric the Green

But Prince should take Copperfield's advice and sleep through election day too.

I gave advice?

I do believe that I was suggesting that his ass was resting on your face.

I'm Tired of boomers saying we need to "pacifist" or to fight with one arm tied behind their back. Bush's incompetence in Iraq was derived from the fact that he refused to listen to the generals who said we needed 500,000 troops. That would have improved the situation had those forces been deployed instead of what actually happened. Selfish Baby boomers want government by money, and government for corporations and government by weakling. Did the Serbs and Russians let up when they went to war in Bosnia and Chechnya in the 1990s? Did Saddam's army show forbearance in Kurdistan in the 1980s, the answer to that question is obvious: of course not. Why have rules of engagement that only give advantage to the enemy? Terrorist barbarians should be rooted out and pacified without mercy. Carry out the meritocratic reforms so that the common man would have access to the government and that infrastructure would be rebuilt and the national defence be protected. Form the Anglophone Union to have a common government for the English-speaking world, vassalize Latin America so that region would not fall into the wrong hands and its industry integrated and combined with that of the American sphere. The general pacification of the middle east and north Africa would be carried out with first heavy conventional and NBC bombardment followed by the systematic conquest of the whole region followed by extensive mopping up by "deislamization units". This conquest would be followed by the division of the Mideast into military administrative regions and the extensive building of settlement zones and settlement cities and administrative cities although construction of these proposed cities would be carried out by Arab Muslim labor. Only the would our nation be secure once again and a bright future ensured.

Originally Posted by Copperfield

I can probably help with that.

Originally Posted by copperfield

I do believe that I was suggesting that his ass was resting on your face.

Uh, that dude looks to young to be Eric. That person's face is obviously the kitty's litter box.

Originally Posted by Cynic Hero '86

I'm Tired of boomers saying we need to "pacifist" or to fight with one arm tied behind their back. Bush's incompetence in Iraq was derived from the fact that he refused to listen to the generals Form the Anglophone Union to have a common government for the English-speaking world, vassalize Latin America so that region would not fall into the wrong hands and its industry integrated and combined with that of the American sphere. The general pacification of the middle east and north Africa would be carried out with first heavy conventional and NBC bombardment followed by the systematic conquest of the whole region followed by extensive mopping up by "deislamization units". ...

Sheesh, nothing like a broken record post to annoy. OK big guy, so how the fuck are supposed to pay for the military budget to pay for this shit? Next, how do we fix moronic boondoggles like that Rube Goldberg F-35?

Here. http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/26/op...ef=topics&_r=0

The fucking morons who are involved with creating this money pit should all be kicked in ass and fired pronto.

PS
Yeah, Shrub was an incompetent clown for trashing a country that posed no threat whatsoever.

Originally Posted by Copperfield

I gave advice?

You did

I do believe that I was suggesting that his ass was resting on your face.

It feels nice

The sheep will sleep.

Originally Posted by Ragnarök_62

Uh, that dude looks to young to be Eric. That person's face is obviously the kitty's litter box.

Originally Posted by Eric

It feels nice

The sheep will sleep.

Now, are you sure about this? Cats make very concentrated piss. [They can drink ocean water to stay hydrated.] Next, not to mention the notorious smelly shit, I rather think you'd be in for a rude awakening.

Originally Posted by Ragnarök_62

Now, are you sure about this? Cats make very concentrated piss. [They can drink ocean water to stay hydrated.] Next, not to mention the notorious smelly shit, I rather think you'd be in for a rude awakening.

I had a kitty for 17 years, and she often sat on my face, with no smelly stuff; well behaved. And of course as we all know, cats are Democrats!

The Republicans, of course, are in for a rude Awakening; assuming they ever have an awakening at all.

Originally Posted by Marx & Lennon

Let's see:
Serve
Return service
Volley
Volley
...
Volley
...
Volley
Volley
...
ad infinitum

It looks like this:

Democratic liberal core boomers: volley
Republican conservative core Xers: ...
ad infinitum

score: infinitum to zero, in favor of Democratic liberal core boomers

Originally Posted by Eric the Green

It feels nice

Ewwwwwwww!
(I feel so 'dirty'!)


Prince

PS: That is pretty funny, though.

Originally Posted by princeofcats67

Now that is interesting.
(btw, thanks for posting that)


Prince

PS: It appears Baltimore Mayor Stephanie Rawlings-Blake has attempted to
clarify her use of the word "thug". She's made some mistakes, but I'm willing
to cut her a little slack, because this isn't the sort of thing I would expect her
(or most politicians, really)to have experience in. And, there'll be plenty of
time for second-guessing. Plus, she's kinda 'hot'!

So far I haven't seen any kind of explanation from the prez. Very strange.
How about that mom who smacked her kid around after finding him at the riots? She said she didn't want him to turn into another Freddie Gray. At least that's an indirect acknowledgement that actions have consequences.

Thuggee or tuggee (Hindi: Nepali ठग्गी ṭhagī; Urdu: ٹھگ‎; Sanskrit: sthaga; Sindhi: ٺوڳي، ٺڳ; Kannada: ಠಕ್ಕ thakka) refers to the acts of Thugs, an organized gang of professional assassins.

The Thugs travelled in groups across India for six hundred years. Although the Thugs traced their origin to seven Muslim tribes, Hindus appear to have been associated with them at an early period. They were first mentioned in Ẓiyā-ud-Dīn Baranī's History of Fīrūz Shāh dated around 1356. In the 1830s they were targeted for eradication by William Bentinck, Governor-General of India, and his chief captain William Henry Sleeman. The Thuggies were seemingly destroyed by this effort.

The Thugs would join travelers and gain their confidence. This would allow them to then surprise and strangle their victims by pulling a handkerchief or noose tight around their necks. They would then rob their victims of valuables and bury their bodies. This led them to also be called Phansigar (English: using a noose), a term more commonly used in southern India. The term Thuggee is derived from the Hindi word ठग, or ṭhag, which means "deceiver". Related words are the verb thugna, "to deceive", from Sanskrit स्थग sthaga "cunning, sly, fraudulent", from स्थगति sthagati "he conceals". This term for a particular kind of murder and robbery of travellers is popular in South Asia and particularly in India.

The modus operandi was to join a caravan and become accepted as bona-fide travellers themselves. The Thugs would need to delay any attack until their fellow travellers had dropped the initial wariness of the newcomers and had been lulled into a false sense of security, gaining their trust. Once the travellers had allowed the Thugs to join them and disperse amongst them – a task which might sometimes, depending on the size of the target group, require accompaniment for hundreds of miles – the Thugs would wait for a suitable place and time before killing and robbing them.

There were obviously variations on this theme. When tackling a large group, a Thuggee band might disperse along a route and join a group in stages, concealing their acquaintanceship, such that they could come to outnumber their intended victims by small, non-threatening increments. If the travellers had doubts about any one party, they might confide their worries to another party of the same Thuggee band. The trusted band would thus be the best placed to deal with these members of the caravan at the appropriate time, but might also be able to advise their colleagues to 'back off' or otherwise modify their behavior, to allay suspicion.

The killing place would need to be remote from local observers and suitable to prevent escape (e.g., backed against a river). Thugs tended to develop favored places of execution, called beles. They knew the geography of these places well—better than their victims. They needed to, if they were to anticipate the likely escape routes and hiding-places of the quicker-witted and more determined of the travellers.

The timing might be at night or during a rest-break, when the travellers would be busy with chores and when the background cries and noise would mask any sounds of alarm. A quick and quiet method, which left no stains and required no special weapons, was strangulation. This method is particularly associated with Thuggee and led to the Thugs also being referred to as the Phansigars, or "noose-operators", and simply as "stranglers" by British troops. Usually two or three Thugs would strangle one traveller. The Thugs would then need to dispose of the bodies: they might bury them or might throw them into a nearby well.

The leader of a gang was called the "Jemadar".

They usually killed their victims in darkness while the Thugs made music or noise to escape discovery. If burying bodies close to a well-travelled trade-route, they would need to disguise the "earthworks" of their graveyard as a camp-site, tamping down the covering mounds and leaving some items of rubbish or remnants of a fire to "explain" the disturbances and obscure the burials.

One reason given for the Thuggee success in avoiding detection and capture so often and over such long periods of time is self-discipline and restraint in avoiding groups of travellers on shorter journeys, even if they seemed laden with suitable plunder. Choosing only travellers far from home gave more time until the alarm was raised and the distance made it less likely that colleagues would follow on to investigate the disappearances. Another reason given is the high degree of teamwork and co-ordination both during the infiltration phase and at the moment of attack.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thuggee

Originally Posted by nihilist moron

So far I haven't seen any kind of explanation from the prez. Very strange.

Maybe he'll say something if some criticism starts trending on some 'social-media'-thingy.
(and apologizing isn't really characteristic of his 'personality type' or 'reputation', IMO)

Originally Posted by NM

How about that mom who smacked her kid around after finding him at the riots? She said she didn't want him to turn into another Freddie Gray. At least that's an indirect acknowledgement that actions have consequences.

Yeah. I saw somebody labeled her as 'mom of the year'.
No disagreement here.


Prince

PS: I'm just waiting to see what happens here, but when 'emotions'
run high, having 'patience in the process' can be pretty difficult, IME.
(especially when there's signs that process may be broken). We'll see.

Originally Posted by princeofcats67

Maybe he'll say something if some criticism starts trending on some 'social-media'-thingy.
(and apologizing isn't really characteristic of his 'personality type' or 'reputation', IMO)

He's not backing down:
http://m.townhall.com/tipsheet/katie...thugs-n1992243
Maybe he figures he doesn't need votes anymore so screw political correctness.

Originally Posted by nihilist moron

He's not backing down:
http://m.townhall.com/tipsheet/katie...thugs-n1992243
Maybe he figures he doesn't need votes anymore so screw political correctness.

Heh. Why am I not surprised?


Prince

PS: BTW, I'm not for being 'politically correct', by any means, but I believe a distinction can be
drawn between 'protesters' and 'rioters' without using the word 'thugs'. Now, let me think here
(for like half-a-second! ). Ok, I think I got it. How about: 'protesters' and 'rioters'?

Originally Posted by princeofcats67

Heh. Why am I not surprised?


Prince

PS: BTW, I'm not for being 'politically correct', by any means, but I believe a distinction can be
drawn between 'protesters' and 'rioters' without using the word 'thugs'. Now, let me think here
(for like half-a-second! ). Ok, I think I got it. How about: 'protesters' and 'rioters'?

I think of a "thug" as someone who would knock granny down and take her purse. Directly confronting a victim is higher on the sociopathic scale than looting or burning a building. Throwing rocks at the police would qualify as direct confrontation, but police officers aren't exactly helpless victims ... so that may be a marginal case.
Accurate or not, it's strange that he chose to use that word, knowing what the reaction would be.

It looks like some of the 'bright lights' on the Right have deducted that Baltimore is all Obama's fault, of course!

Ted Cruz: Obama To Blame For Baltimore Riots Because He 'Inflamed' Racial Tensions

Donald Trump Blames Baltimore Riots on Obama

Fox Personalities Blame Obama For Baltimore Violence

Maybe Barack was in the van severing spinal cords?

I can understand the Rightee hopefuls and media doing this; they give all their sheeple free handjobs if they could.

The Rightee's sheeple trying to find something Obama-bad here (e.g. "he said, "thug," ooh, so naughty-naughty") - why that's just good old fashion Obama Derangement Syndrome - in turned, caused by a combination of amygdala-dominated brains and daddy issues.

Originally Posted by Cynic Hero '86

I'm Tired of boomers saying we need to "pacifist" or to fight with one arm tied behind their back. Bush's incompetence in Iraq was derived from the fact that he refused to listen to the generals who said we needed 500,000 troops. That would have improved the situation had those forces been deployed instead of what actually happened. Selfish Baby boomers want government by money, and government for corporations and government by weakling. Did the Serbs and Russians let up when they went to war in Bosnia and Chechnya in the 1990s? Did Saddam's army show forbearance in Kurdistan in the 1980s, the answer to that question is obvious: of course not. Why have rules of engagement that only give advantage to the enemy? Terrorist barbarians should be rooted out and pacified without mercy. Carry out the meritocratic reforms so that the common man would have access to the government and that infrastructure would be rebuilt and the national defence be protected. Form the Anglophone Union to have a common government for the English-speaking world, vassalize Latin America so that region would not fall into the wrong hands and its industry integrated and combined with that of the American sphere. The general pacification of the middle east and north Africa would be carried out with first heavy conventional and NBC bombardment followed by the systematic conquest of the whole region followed by extensive mopping up by "deislamization units". This conquest would be followed by the division of the Mideast into military administrative regions and the extensive building of settlement zones and settlement cities and administrative cities although construction of these proposed cities would be carried out by Arab Muslim labor. Only the would our nation be secure once again and a bright future ensured.

Hey '86, it's illegal to go fight in Syria, but you can join a number of other Americans who've gone over to Iraq to help out - you're probably not going to pull the 6-figure merc salary but there's this job called cannon-fodder. Heck, I'll arrange for your flight ticket if you like.

Or, is this more about other families' kids shedding their blood to implement your grand chickenhawk plans while you salute the evening news from your Barcalounger with a cold beer in hand?

Truly, your unbridled Patriotism is just so, well, amazing.

Originally Posted by nihilist moron

I think of a "thug" as someone who would knock granny down and take her purse. Directly confronting a victim is higher on the sociopathic scale than looting or burning a building. Throwing rocks at the police would qualify as direct confrontation, but police officers aren't exactly helpless victims ... so that may be a marginal case.
Accurate or not, it's strange that he chose to use that word, knowing what the reaction would be.

I agree it is kinda strange.

I guess my issue is that when Sec. Kerry uses "thugs" to describe ISIS-members,
and then politicians use "thugs" to describe those rioters in Baltimore, there's bound
to be confusion. Those rioters in Baltimore are also the kids of some of the residents.
I don't believe I would take too kindly to having my kid be compared to ISIS, either.

It's just so un-necessary, IMO. But, they're still using it, so ... I don't know.


Prince

Originally Posted by princeofcats67

I agree it is kinda strange.

I guess my issue is that when Sec. Kerry uses "thugs" to describe ISIS-members,
and then politicians use "thugs" to describe those rioters in Baltimore, there's bound
to be confusion. Those rioters in Baltimore are also the kids of some of the residents.
I don't believe I would take too kindly to having my kid be compared to ISIS, either.

It's just so un-necessary, IMO. But, they're still using it, so ... I don't know.


Prince

Not to butt too deeply into an intellectual discussion of the term, "thug", but the term is widely used to describe criminal behavior of many kinds. Source: Merriam-Webster.