Originally Posted by playwrite

This is a great video ad about "Trump, the Uniter."

Check the various GOP 'stars' as some good ones to watch for the "endorse/support/mums/fuzzball/never" trends.





Gad, this is going to be fun!

And to think those all those highly connected, highly intelligent fuckers that aren't/weren't able to relate to working folks went down to defeat during the primary by an unruly group of American voter's who decided that they were were sick and tired of being fucked by them. You might as well consider them as part of your team because none of them will have a future in the GOP after this election. Curious, if you woke up and found out that you were broke, would you jump out a window or accept life as a member of the working poor.

I for one really can't wait for the ads against Clinton. She has more skeletons in her closet than a bone meal factory. As for the long list of cuckservatives that he ran against...Daddy beat them, and he'll beat the female version too. Hillary is doomed, the establishment will lose and America will be better for it.



Video is not mine, but this person essentially boils down the same reasoning behind my vote as well.

Originally Posted by Kinser79

I for one really can't wait for the ads against Clinton. She has more skeletons in her closet than a bone meal factory. As for the long list of cuckservatives that he ran against...Daddy beat them, and he'll beat the female version too. Hillary is doomed, the establishment will lose and America will be better for it.



Video is not mine, but this person essentially boils down the same reasoning behind my vote as well.

Ginning up for the revolution? Armegeddon? "Cuckservative?"

FFS. Pathetic.

Originally Posted by Classic-X'er

And to think those all those highly connected, highly intelligent fuckers that aren't/weren't able to relate to working folks went down to defeat during the primary by an unruly group of American voter's who decided that they were were sick and tired of being fucked by them. You might as well consider them as part of your team because none of them will have a future in the GOP after this election. Curious, if you woke up and found out that you were broke, would you jump out a window or accept life as a member of the working poor.

Trump supporters actually have a higher average income than all other candidate's voters except Kasich. Higher than HRC's and Sander's. So much for the common belief of the "white working class" vote. If you can't get a clue, perhaps you can buy one.

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/...class-support/

Originally Posted by annla899

Trump supporters actually have a higher average income than all other candidate's voters except Kasich. Higher than HRC's and Sander's. So much for the common belief of the "white working class" vote. If you can't get a clue, perhaps you can buy one.

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/...class-support/

True, I don't know any Trump supporters who are working class voters. However, I do know a lot of Trump supporters who are directly related to the working class.

Originally Posted by Classic-X'er

And to think those all those highly connected, highly intelligent fuckers that aren't/weren't able to relate to working folks went down to defeat during the primary by an unruly group of American voter's who decided that they were were sick and tired of being fucked by them. You might as well consider them as part of your team because none of them will have a future in the GOP after this election. Curious, if you woke up and found out that you were broke, would you jump out a window or accept life as a member of the working poor.

And what would be really funny if it wasn't so sad, is those that get fucXed (i.e., Trumped supporters) by the "highly intelligent fuckers," (i.e. GOP Establishment), are putting their faith into one of the biggest group of fucXers on the planet.

Just take a few minutes and look up Trump's new campaign finance manager, Steven Mnuchin.

Look past his being a hedge fund manager at Dune Capital (remember, Trump promised he was going to "take on" those guys - silly you, didn't realize he meant taking them on as his Cabinet).

Also, look past his nearly two decades at Goldman Sachs that was one of the biggest pimps for sub-prime mortgages, securitization and derivatization that brought the Nation to its financial knees in 2008.

And look past his role in bringing Relativity Media, a very successful movie studio at the box office, into bankruptcy that had a ripple effect throughout the industry of companies not getting paid and laying off employees, EXCEPT for a certain bank called OneWest that was fully paid off before the shXt hit the fan. Let's pull on that one thread just a tad.

OneWest Bank was formerly know as IndyMac Bank. Hear of them?

IndyMac, a contraction of Independent National Mortgage Corporation, was an American bank based in California that failed in 2008 and was seized by the United States Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC).

Before its failure, IndyMac Bank was the largest savings and loan association in the Los Angeles area and the seventh largest mortgage originator in the United States.[1] The failure of IndyMac Bank on July 11, 2008, was the fourth largest bank failure in United States,[2] and the second largest failure of a regulated thrift at that time.[3]

It was heavily involved in Alt-A mortgages and reverse mortgages which in part resulted in its dramatic rise and has been suggested as the cause for its demise as large number of these questionable loans failed during the US subprime mortgage crisis of 2007-2009.[4]

The FDIC put the assets up for auction and the bulk of the business was sold to IMB HoldCo LLC who turned this into OneWest Bank. The FDIC kept some of the assets and liabilities that it could not sell in a holding entity known as IndyMac Federal Bank, which would be slowly wound down.

Just to note - on a dollar basis, the bank run on IndyMac by depositors was the third largest in US history. BUT, less that 8% of the depositors (i.e., "working folk") got their money out before the bank closed its doors.

IMB HoldCo was run by Trump's new campaign finance manager, Steven Mnuchin. They not only paid pennies on the dollar for the bank's assets (i.e., mortgages), they had the US government backing any loses. Within two years, Steven Mnuchin's holding company made over a billion dollar profit on their risk-free buying of IndyBank!

First this guy works for one of the major villains in the real estate bust, and a couple years later, he's made 100s of millions of dollars. Nice work if you can get it; I'm sure he has some big idea for you and your "working folks" when he's in Trump's cabinet!

But that's just the beginning of the fun!

Take a look at this local news photo taken outside of big Steven's multi-million dollar home in Bel-Air -



Do you notice his name of the poster? Do you notice the name of the bank? Do you notice what they are protesting about? Do you notice any financial elite protesters in the picture?

Big Steven's OneWest Bank foreclosed on 35,000 households. Have you ever seen a foreclosure and its aftermath? Do you think any of those foreclosures were on anyone not "working folks?"

Let's take a rather relatively mild presentation of OneWest in Wikipedia -

Controversial foreclosures on IndyMac loans[edit]
In enforcing its rights under the loans purchased from IndyMac, OneWest Bank has taken a much more aggressive approach to foreclosing on properties.

On November 25, 2009, Judge Spinner in Long Island, New York penalized OneWest for their “harsh, repugnant, shocking and repulsive” actions in trying to work out a distressed mortgage, by canceling the debt in favor of the borrower.[5] A year after the New York Judge Spinner wiped away the debt, an appellate panel ruled that the judge had no right to do it. While Judge Spinner ruled that the bank's practices warranted him erasing the homeowners' debt, the appellate judges found that he had no authority to render such a judgment—and did not give the bank fair notice that such consequences were even on the table.[6]

On December 8, 2009 OneWest worked with the Hennepin County, Minnesota Sheriff’s department to change the locks on a distressed home despite stating in a Nov. 25 e-mail that they were rescinding both the foreclosure and the sheriffs sale. OneWest Bank said, "You expressed concern that … you and your mother will be evicted from the property. Rest assured, that will not take place …".[7] Changing the locks was done without any court action which bypasses acknowledged and mandated Due Process on home foreclosures in Minnesota.[7]

Additionally several judges have issued Temporary Restraining Orders and Preliminary Injunctions against OneWest preventing OneWest from foreclosing on properties where the borrower claims OneWest failed to follow proper procedure in foreclosing on the property or otherwise violated the borrower's rights.[8]

This is the guy that is headed to a major position (e.g., Treasury Secretary, Federal Reserve Board, God help us FDIC Director) in a Trump administration.

I could say you and your "working folks" are idiots, morons, willfully ignorant, but none of those really capture the essence.

Here's what does -

Rubes, just waiting to be picked... again and again.

Smartin up or prepare to bend over, again.

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Update - at least someone on the Right, in the form of a Libertarian, is seeing through the Trumpster hustle -

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-0...nance-chairman

Trump Picks Former Goldman Partner And Soros Employee As Finance Chairman

Originally Posted by playwrite

Here's one way to neuter Trump's schtick -

The Clinton campaign needs to demand equal time from any news outlet that gives Trump an on-air telephone interview. They should demand equal time for a phone interview, or make the news outlet provide a very very expensive political ad time for free. The news outlet will go for it - both to save a lot of money and for the entertainment/ratings.

Every time Trump gets on the phone with the news, it is followed up immediately by a Clinton surrogate taking on the idiocy that he has just provided - it becomes part of the instant response of the war room that the Dems excel at. The object - to make Trump come across as the clown that he is.

This should be done by Clinton surrogates, not Clinton herself. Starting with campaign types, moving up to Bill, then to Dem Senators, after the convention Sanders and Warren, then Biden, and then the big guy, himself, Obama, some time in September. Trump is made to look like the idiot he is, and Hillary stays above it all and Presidential. Game over.

OMG, Yes!! what a superb strategy.

Originally Posted by annla899

Ginning up for the revolution? Armegeddon? "Cuckservative?"

FFS. Pathetic.

Yeah, I've told Kinser before that he is a Right-Authoritarian who thinks he's a Leftist because of his race and sexual orientation.

Originally Posted by Odin

Yeah, I've told Kinser before that he is a Right-Authoritarian who thinks he's a Leftist because of his race and sexual orientation.

Actually I'm on the left economically. I still want to destroy capitalism.

My race and orientation have very little to do with my politics, my class is what matters and Hillary represents the working man no more than Mitt Romney. That said, you really should consider the dark side. Daddy is rich enough to provide cookies to his volunteer staff. Daddy has also hired more working people than anyone on the Dem or GOP side running, or even all of them combined. Though that is mostly because he's actually hired people.


http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2016/0...the-alt-right/

Should prove an interesting read. I'd like to see where you think I stand in that list.

Originally Posted by Kinser79

... I'd like to see where you think I stand in that list.

To the Left of Jacques-René Hébert and suffering the same eventual fate under President Dump.

Originally Posted by The Wonkette

I am old enough to remember 1980 (and you are too), when liberals were gleeful about the prospect of running against that old has-been actor with the extremist positions.

Yes, I remember that and it was fun watching the reaction. Carter was taken out by stagflation and the hostage crisis which revealed him to be ineffective.

The FBI still has yet to cast their vote, the little issue over classified e-mails is still in play. They have recently interviewed Huma which suggests that Clinton is next.

Originally Posted by playwrite

To the Left of Jacques-René Hébert and suffering the same eventual fate under President Dump.

The funny thing is that I don't think that Daddy would, even if he could, start a reign of terror that he would use a guillotine. That method of execution is alien to Americans.

That said...I find that Partisan Democrats are resorting to the Trump is Hitler meme, totally ignoring that it is not historically accurate. Video below. But also that it is a clear case of stage 3 of "Defeat by Daddy" (TM).

http://www.breitbart.com/big-governm...l-death-trump/

Boomers refusing to allow reform are now trying to ram the hildabeast down our throats. Xers and Millennials will break en masse to vote for trump because we are not going to just sit there and be screwed over to benefit you selfish boomer elite sacks of feces. We are tired of ineptitude running our country while the obviously superior classes and cohorts and disenfranchised and marginalized.

ugh the boomer bashing. It does nothing but divided further. Actions to solve issues yes....although trump for the job....errr he does not have a good track record of having any successful business.....also amusing that you are running boomers down while voting one in. Whoever gets in pretty much is going to make heads explode. Keep the mess away from my country when that happens. Btw apologies to boomers for what a fellow millie has said. At his age he should know better. Btw i am well aware of how we are being screwed over in my country (NZ) but action over insults thrown at the wrong people works.

Originally Posted by Taramarie

although trump for the job....errr he does not have a good track record of having any successful business

Uh what are you smoking? I want some.

The man took a million dollars and turned it into billions of dollars, he is the 133rd richest person in the US. He's had 4 business bankruptcies (not to be confused with personal bankruptcy--he's never declared personal bankruptcy) and even then that was under Chapter 11 debt restructuring meaning every dime was paid back. Daddy's business acumen is legendary.

Indeed I've been reading "The Art of the Deal" and I'm seeing where he literally is using tactics he developed in business against the career politicians he's facing.

Originally Posted by Kinser79

Uh what are you smoking? I want some.

The man took a million dollars and turned it into billions of dollars, he is the 133rd richest person in the US. He's had 4 business bankruptcies (not to be confused with personal bankruptcy--he's never declared personal bankruptcy) and even then that was under Chapter 11 debt restructuring meaning every dime was paid back. Daddy's business acumen is legendary.

Indeed I've been reading "The Art of the Deal" and I'm seeing where he literally is using tactics he developed in business against the career politicians he's facing.

Keep saying that when he runs you guys into debt, nationally and globally. He is a failure. People are crazy to elect a person who cannot even run one frigging business. He has just said he will do it again but this time as a president. He will run America and the world into being bankrupt. Keep it up America and we will see a real crisis. It amazes me that people think he will do wonders for their country. Oh the ignorance. He is self serving and always will be.

He will be the cause of a massive depression and most likely a total war. This will be on a global scale. But just vote for him and see. America has gone crazy. He is the push into the depths of the crisis and is a product of it. But as i said, go vote for him and see. As my mother said, America will get what it deserves. Unfortunately, so will the rest of us. He has made his money from fucking people over. He will continue.

Originally Posted by Kinser79

Uh what are you smoking? I want some.

The man took a million dollars and turned it into billions of dollars, he is the 133rd richest person in the US. He's had 4 business bankruptcies (not to be confused with personal bankruptcy--he's never declared personal bankruptcy) and even then that was under Chapter 11 debt restructuring meaning every dime was paid back. Daddy's business acumen is legendary.

Indeed I've been reading "The Art of the Deal" and I'm seeing where he literally is using tactics he developed in business against the career politicians he's facing.

Can't you see it as a Marxist? He's another crony capitalist, but this time one with great leverage against his assets. He's a huckster of the worst type.

Government cannot be run like a business. Justice, the military, and foreign affairs cannot be run on a profit-and-loss basis. Business is responsible above all else to shareholders, all others be d@mned unless they have legal force behind them... like creditors, taxing authorities, and regulators. Elective government in theory is responsible to us all, whether we voted for the pol or did not.

Originally Posted by pbrower2a

Can't you see it as a Marxist? He's another crony capitalist, but this time one with great leverage against his assets. He's a huckster of the worst type.

Government cannot be run like a business. Justice, the military, and foreign affairs cannot be run on a profit-and-loss basis. Business is responsible above all else to shareholders, all others be d@mned unless they have legal force behind them... like creditors, taxing authorities, and regulators. Elective government in theory is responsible to us all, whether we voted for the pol or did not.

Bingo. I would have thought of all people Kinser would hate him due to the fact he is a crony capitalist. I do not believe him when he says he is a marxist. I suspected he wasnt. Now i am positive he isnt. He is the worst type of capitalist at that. If his tactic is in fact to run America and the world with it into bankruptcy ....oh we are screwed. Kinser, if you do not believe, just keep watching. Some people must learn the hard way. And oh boy will you learn the hard way.

Originally Posted by Taramarie

Keep saying that when he runs you guys into debt, nationally and globally.

Too late for that. The US is already over 17 Trillion in debt.

He is a failure. People are crazy to elect a person who cannot even run one frigging business. He has just said he will do it again but this time as a president. He will run America and the world into being bankrupt. Keep it up America and we will see a real crisis. It amazes me that people think he will do wonders for their country. Oh the ignorance. He is self serving and always will be.

He's run many businesses, most have been successful some have not. Comes with the territory of business.

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You do realize that The Young Turks are complete hacks right? Not even the Left takes them seriously and they are a left-wing mouth piece.

Pbrower and others: we are tired of the patheticness constantly being offered by the political class as solutions. In WW2 Germany, Russia, Japan, and both nationalist and communist china had strong governments. Britain and france had weak governments while the US was in between in that regard (we had not yet been infected by PC nonsense preached by brain-dead hippies). Earlier in WW1, the central powers generally had the superior governmental organization (compare the kaisers army with the Czars of the same era). Xers and Millies are bringing back government that works back to our country.

Originally Posted by Kinser79

Too late for that. The US is already over 17 Trillion in debt.



He's run many businesses, most have been successful some have not. Comes with the territory of business.

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You do realize that The Young Turks are complete hacks right? Not even the Left takes them seriously and they are a left-wing mouth piece.

He will of course run America and the world into more debt. But I know you only learn from seeing it first hand like many others do. So, watch and learn the hard way. Anyone with half a brain can predict what he will do. You will learn the hard way, mr capitalist.

Originally Posted by pbrower2a

Can't you see it as a Marxist? He's another crony capitalist, but this time one with great leverage against his assets. He's a huckster of the worst type.

Government cannot be run like a business. Justice, the military, and foreign affairs cannot be run on a profit-and-loss basis. Business is responsible above all else to shareholders, all others be d@mned unless they have legal force behind them... like creditors, taxing authorities, and regulators. Elective government in theory is responsible to us all, whether we voted for the pol or did not.

Here is what I see. And yes as a Marxist. A robot politician with all the same plans and schemes that cause this mess...Hillary. And a businessman who might be a huckster who is not a politician and is speaking against the plans and schemes that caused this mess. If the height of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results, then maybe we should try someone who says they are going to do something different.

Hillary has been anointed, there is no way for Sanders to be the nominee mathematically. As such the only other option is Trump. Ever stop to consider that he is blasted far more by Republican outfits than he is by Democratic ones? There is a reason for that. One I believe is explained by the S&H theory. Primarily that Trump is the GC and he's a Jacksonian figure.

As for smoking something....i think i should smoke whatever kinser is because it must be so good to feel safe and secure voting for that man who has screwed people over for money by declaring bankruptcy 4 times. As he said, he loves playing with becoming bankrupt. A govt that works.....right? Oh I wish I was that naive. We can kiss our collective arses goodbye. America will get what it desires. Nice knowing you America.

Originally Posted by Taramarie

He will of course run America and the world into more debt. But I know you only learn from seeing it first hand like many others do. So, watch and learn the hard way. Anyone with half a brain can predict what he will do. You will learn the hard way, mr capitalist.

No even if he does that, I still win. Apparently Tara, you don't seem to get this. I'm beholden to neither party, that said the worse things get, the more people listen to folks like me. If Trump wrecks the country the socialist revolution becomes inevitable. If Trump does not wreck the country, and manages to fix a few things then we can bump along a few more years.

Furthermore like I said, not even the Left considers The Young Turks to be reliable. And their is a boat load of bizarre agitprop in the American New Left (which is actually pretty damn old now that I think about it).