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Post#251 at 05-10-2016 11:52 PM by Classic-X'er [at joined Sep 2012 #posts 1,789]
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Quote Originally Posted by XYMOX_4AD_84 View Post
You are a vile, disgusting enemy of the American people. Here you reveal the demonic presence. Wishing such a hateful outcome on your fellow countrymen. Who is the real nationalist? Is it a hatemonger like you, or is it someone who, however they may have normal human flaws, wishes the best for all Americans? Your spirit is of the ANTI-Regeneracy. It drives splits and taken to an extreme, civil war or anarchic violence. Please don't be talking about hanging from lamp posts ... people in glass houses and all that.
I'm no more of a hate monger than playdude or you for that matter. I don't feel sorry for people who play with a sharp knife and cut themselves.







Post#252 at 05-11-2016 12:27 AM by Classic-X'er [at joined Sep 2012 #posts 1,789]
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Quote Originally Posted by The Wonkette View Post
Of course your daughter has the right to wear a cross without being harassed, just like I have the right to wear a Magen David (Star of David) necklace without being harassed (which, I admit, nobody ever harasses me when I wear it) and my fiancé's daughter-in-law has the right to wear hijab without harassment.

My concern echoes Bob Butler's



Also, the concern about whether someone who has an ectopic pregnancy and lives in a community where the only hospital is affiliated with the Catholic church can get the appropriate treatment, which sadly requires terminating the (unviable) pregnancy.
What's the chance of that happening?







Post#253 at 05-11-2016 12:52 AM by Classic-X'er [at joined Sep 2012 #posts 1,789]
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Quote Originally Posted by playwrite View Post
Yes, there is no evidence that "conservatism," as a magic pony, is disappearing - that's one of the problems with magic ponies.

But, let's look at conservative thought as it is actually manifested in the political power arena, i.e., today's GOP.

I remember the GOP's post-2012 autopsy, and how it was completely jettison. The GOP is the angry White man's party, and your problem is that cohort is diminishing by 2% each election cycle. You're not doing anything to bring in the non-White, female or younger voter that is making up more and more of the electorate. Instead, you're waiting for them to come to you. Good luck with that.

The bigger problem is you can't grasp that conservatism is contemporarily defined by the times; what conservatism had to offer before Trump was already in a death spiral; Trump has just stripped off the veneer.

What your left with is xenophobia, and that only goes so far as the future unfolds.
The Democrats appear to be the party of angry minorities. The GOP as you claim is the angry white man's party? Does this mean we are heading towards a race war in America. How is an angry minority going to know the difference between you and me? You just keep feeding them more racism and more hatred of whites. So, you go ahead and continue to contribute to your demise and the eventual demise of them that follow.
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Post#254 at 05-11-2016 01:09 AM by Classic-X'er [at joined Sep 2012 #posts 1,789]
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Quote Originally Posted by playwrite View Post
This is what so funny about the Right's many zombie apocalypse forecasts - they truly believe they would survive it.

There's a few wingers with PTSD that hold this view, but the vast majority of wingers haven't had any experience or clue about what they hope will occur and somehow miraculously thrive - they all believe they're Sheriff Rick or Daryl, or in Classic's case, Captain America.
We would survive it and you know it.







Post#255 at 05-11-2016 08:55 AM by playwrite [at NYC joined Jul 2005 #posts 10,451]
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Quote Originally Posted by Classic-X'er View Post
We would survive it and you know it.
Not for long. And while you did, you would consider yourself one of the unlucky ones.
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Post#256 at 05-11-2016 11:14 AM by katsung47 [at joined Jan 2011 #posts 289]
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Donald Trump is a candidate of the Feds.(1) (4/30/2016)


I say so because in this campaign there is a lot of comedy show done by S.S.G..


Those rallies, either for trump or against him, have the purpose to raise his popularity.


What is S.S.G.?


" The FBI Special Support Group , or SSG (They're nicknamed G's), supposedly does much of the routine work for the Bureau, leaving the FBI agents themselves free to pursue more important matters. ...


They usually work part-time, and earn about $5,000.00 - $10,000.00 per year or more. The FBI doesn't advertise the existence of the SSG, but it's no big secret either. The reality of the Special Support Group is much different than the "released" information. SSG teams regularly harass and even menace people on the FBI's Black List. ...


The FBI calls this harassment "dangling," and they do it on a regular basis to people who frequently have committed no offense other than to have drawn the ire of the Bureau. Many SSG's are of the lowest caliber of human life, especially those chosen for excessive harassment of innocent citizens. Far too often SSG teams consist of bullies, perverts, racists and ex-convicts and other dregs whose sole purpose is to drive people crazy and ruin their lives. If one of their victims snaps and tears one of them up, the bloodied G will press charges, perjure himself if confronted with his FBI affiliation, and the victim is locked up. Mission accomplished. That's one reason why the FBI is not very open about the SSG. This is just one of the many questionable and outright illegal activities that the FBI uses our tax dollars for. The very people sworn to uphold our Civil Rights are perhaps the most flagrant violators. If you attend a protest rally, or otherwise call attention to yourself, don't be surprised if you start seeing the same bizarre group of people showing up everywhere you go, bothering you and behaving like psychotic clowns."


http://www.angelfire.com/ny5/tradece...s/page447.html


Of course, Donald Trump himself is a S.S.G. - a high ranking one.


He is chosen because something big will happen. No big group (Democratic Party or Republican Party ) wants to take the responsibility. A clown would easily do that job.







Post#257 at 05-11-2016 11:27 AM by Debol1990 [at joined Jul 2010 #posts 734]
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Quote Originally Posted by katsung47 View Post
Donald Trump is a candidate of the Feds.(1) (4/30/2016)


I say so because in this campaign there is a lot of comedy show done by S.S.G..


Those rallies, either for trump or against him, have the purpose to raise his popularity.


What is S.S.G.?


" The FBI Special Support Group , or SSG (They're nicknamed G's), supposedly does much of the routine work for the Bureau, leaving the FBI agents themselves free to pursue more important matters. ...


They usually work part-time, and earn about $5,000.00 - $10,000.00 per year or more. The FBI doesn't advertise the existence of the SSG, but it's no big secret either. The reality of the Special Support Group is much different than the "released" information. SSG teams regularly harass and even menace people on the FBI's Black List. ...


The FBI calls this harassment "dangling," and they do it on a regular basis to people who frequently have committed no offense other than to have drawn the ire of the Bureau. Many SSG's are of the lowest caliber of human life, especially those chosen for excessive harassment of innocent citizens. Far too often SSG teams consist of bullies, perverts, racists and ex-convicts and other dregs whose sole purpose is to drive people crazy and ruin their lives. If one of their victims snaps and tears one of them up, the bloodied G will press charges, perjure himself if confronted with his FBI affiliation, and the victim is locked up. Mission accomplished. That's one reason why the FBI is not very open about the SSG. This is just one of the many questionable and outright illegal activities that the FBI uses our tax dollars for. The very people sworn to uphold our Civil Rights are perhaps the most flagrant violators. If you attend a protest rally, or otherwise call attention to yourself, don't be surprised if you start seeing the same bizarre group of people showing up everywhere you go, bothering you and behaving like psychotic clowns."


http://www.angelfire.com/ny5/tradece...s/page447.html


Of course, Donald Trump himself is a S.S.G. - a high ranking one.


He is chosen because something big will happen. No big group (Democratic Party or Republican Party ) wants to take the responsibility. A clown would easily do that job.

Ah yes, the shadowy cabal of G-men that killed Kennedy in a Coup and have been running the show in America for 50 years. They destroyed Nixon cause he found out, planned 9/11, Obama was their stooge and now... of course Trump.

I always wonder with conspiracy theorists if they do it because it is comforting? Like, is the idea that this is all some diabolical plan make you feel better than the reality? The truth is Trump is just a nationalist-populist as Bernie is a Socialist-populist. The parties are losing because they have isolated themselves with the people of the nation and are totally out of touch with main street America.

it isn't a plan, its chaos, its all of us falling from one disaster to the next. Always has been, always will be.







Post#258 at 05-11-2016 01:09 PM by The Wonkette [at Arlington, VA 1956 joined Jul 2002 #posts 9,209]
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Quote Originally Posted by Classic-X'er View Post
What's the chance of that happening?
What happening? Having an ectopic pregnancy or having a hospital not be willing to treat it?

In terms of the former, it's estimated that about 1 to 2 percent of pregnancies are ectopic. I

don't know whether the Catholic church sanctions ending a pregnancy (even a nonviable one) to save the mother's life; I have heard of horror stories about Catholic hospitals refusing to do then.
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Post#259 at 05-11-2016 01:15 PM by Kinser79 [at joined Jun 2012 #posts 2,899]
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Well one should never let the truth stand in the way of a good conspiracy theory.







Post#260 at 05-11-2016 02:28 PM by JDG 66 [at joined Aug 2010 #posts 2,116]
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Quote Originally Posted by playwrite View Post
No, you didn't read the original NY TIMES article but did a bait-and-switch of a NY POST with more spin than summary...
-No, it was a good summary; just not one that makes the Obamanation look good. It is amusing to see them (and the Obamabots) run cover for them!

Quote Originally Posted by playwrite View Post
... In spirit, if not in actual blood, you all are the descendents of the Southern poor Whites that went off to slaughter in 1860 to protect an evil institution for the benefit of your elites...
-In 1860, the Demorats spit on the free market system; it was Republicans like Lincoln who upheld it. They still do. Every anti-free market argument in a Bernbot rant would be perfectly at home in George Fitzhugh's writings, except for the fact that the word "slavery" has been replaced with "socialism"-- actually, Fitzhugh preferred socialism to the free market. Nothing has changed.

And, ah! The days of corrupt old Tammany Hall! Bribes for votes. Nothing has changed.

PW still hasn't offered an explanation of why the supposed racist party voted for this guy:

https://www.scott.senate.gov/

From the New York City Demoratic party's finest moments:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_City_draft_riots

...FWIW, even the Confederates didn't burn down an orphange.







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Quote Originally Posted by JDG 66 View Post


-No, it was a good summary; just not one that makes the Obamanation look good. It is amusing to see them (and the Obamabots) run cover for them!



-In 1860, the Demorats spit on the free market system; it was Republicans like Lincoln who upheld it. They still do. Every anti-free market argument in a Bernbot rant would be perfectly at home in George Fitzhugh's writings, except for the fact that the word "slavery" has been replaced with "socialism"-- actually, Fitzhugh preferred socialism to the free market. Nothing has changed.

And, ah! The days of corrupt old Tammany Hall! Bribes for votes. Nothing has changed.

PW still hasn't offered an explanation of why the supposed racist party voted for this guy:

https://www.scott.senate.gov/

From the New York City Demoratic party's finest moments:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_City_draft_riots

...FWIW, even the Confederates didn't burn down an orphange.
SHUT UP! All of you. This forum has turned into an insulting match. I am sick and tired of all this bullshit.







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Quote Originally Posted by naf140230 View Post
SHUT UP! All of you. This forum has turned into an insulting match. I am sick and tired of all this bullshit.
-You obviously missed the irony of your own post.

Maybe you can takje a crack at explaining how the supposedly racist Southern Republicans voted for this guy:

https://www.scott.senate.gov/

...I actually had some idiot claim that that proves how truly racist they really are. Funny.
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Post#263 at 05-11-2016 04:40 PM by Taramarie [at Christchurch, New Zealand joined Jul 2015 #posts 2,769]
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Quote Originally Posted by naf140230 View Post
SHUT UP! All of you. This forum has turned into an insulting match. I am sick and tired of all this bullshit.

Well don't worry. The forum will be shut down by this weekend and you do not have to go to the new forums. They will be there and will not stop this just because they will be elsewhere. Unless the moderator really cracks down and makes sure insult slinging stops.
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Post#264 at 05-11-2016 04:46 PM by JDG 66 [at joined Aug 2010 #posts 2,116]
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Quote Originally Posted by Taramarie View Post
Well don't worry. The forum will be shut down by this weekend and you do not have to go to the new forums. They will be there and will not stop this just because they will be elsewhere. Unless the moderator really cracks down and makes sure insult slinging stops.
-I tried to keep it civil. You've been far more rude to me than I have to you.

Now, I know that your justa Kiwi, but maybe you can comment:

Quote Originally Posted by JDG 66 View Post
...Maybe you can takje a crack at explaining how the supposedly racist Southern Republicans voted for this guy:

https://www.scott.senate.gov/








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Quote Originally Posted by JDG 66 View Post
-I tried to keep it civil. You've been far more rude to me than I have to you.

Now, I know that your justa Kiwi, but maybe you can comment:

Excuse me? I have not spoken to you. Also I was speaking to naf, not you.
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Quote Originally Posted by Taramarie View Post
Excuse me? I have not spoken to you. Also I was speaking to naf, not you.
-Perhaps I'm thinking of another Taramarie.







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Quote Originally Posted by JDG 66 View Post
-I tried to keep it civil. You've been far more rude to me than I have to you.

Now, I know that your justa Kiwi, but maybe you can comment:
I suggest you take a look at those who actually voted for Tim Scott. I doubt blue-collar white men have actually voted for him. Yes, there are black Republicans today, including Ben Carson, but they are only a minority.
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Quote Originally Posted by JDG 66 View Post
-Perhaps I'm thinking of another Taramarie.

Perhaps you are
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Quote Originally Posted by Taramarie View Post
Perhaps you are
-Or maybe not:

Quote Originally Posted by Taramarie View Post
If a kiwi has to tell you what freedoms I feel sorry for you Republicans and even more so for progressives. Please look into that.
So, since you've appointed yourself the kiwi expert on these issues, why don't you try answering this one:

Quote Originally Posted by JDG 66 View Post
Maybe you can takje a crack at explaining how the supposedly racist Southern Republicans voted for this guy:

https://www.scott.senate.gov/

...
...and thn explain why American proggies so love the country to the north, but try to disassociate themselves from the Tories who created that country?

Your outsider perspective will be much appreciated.







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Quote Originally Posted by JDG 66 View Post
-Or maybe not:



So, since you've appointed yourself the kiwi expert on these issues, why don't you try answering this one:



...and thn explain why American proggies so love the country to the north, but try to disassociate themselves from the Tories who created that country?

Your outsider perspective will be much appreciated.

I have also heard a lot about you and have been warned about you. So further discussion will cease between us.
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Quote Originally Posted by Taramarie View Post
I have also heard a lot about you and have been warned about you. So further discussion will cease between us.
-Translation: "I don't know what I'm talking about, so I'm going to run away now."

Bye bye!

And I was so looking forward to a chat about the proggie, Father Coughlin. Darn.







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The person known as JDG 66 is well known as a troll on this forum. I have been warned of his behaviour and i make sure not to talk to people who are like that. I advise to anyone who is new here to take this into consideration before conversing with this person. I do not know this person, but I listen to those who have been here much longer than I have. The person's childish comment above should be a warning.
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Quote Originally Posted by Taramarie View Post
The person known as JDG 66 is well known as a troll on this forum...
-Translation: I don't know what I'm talking about, nor can I handle rational arguments, so I'll insult anyone who makes me question my competence by pretending to "warn" them.







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Gen Xers who are wanna be Red Boomers suck donkey schlongs. Y'all make me ashamed to be an Xer.

Y'all are sooooo stuck in the 3T.

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Quote Originally Posted by XYMOX_4AD_84 View Post
Gen Xers who are wanna be Red Boomers suck donkey schlongs. Y'all make me ashamed to be an Xer.

Y'all are sooooo stuck in the 3T.
-Ah! Another rationalist.

Can to take a stab at any of these questions:

Why would supposedly racist Southern Republicans elect a a senator who is, well, pretty darn Black?

Why American proggies so love the country to the north, but try to disassociate themselves from the Tories who created that country...
Alas! Posters used to say such nice things about me:

Quote Originally Posted by Silifi View Post
I agree. James Glick is probably my favorite right-wing poster, simply because he actually backs himself up with solid evidence and makes logical sense, i.e. isn't a partisan hack.
...and btw, Taramarie, THIS is what you were "warned" about:

Quote Originally Posted by Bronco80 View Post
For the record, I don't think Glick is nuts. We have strong disagreements on how the world should be run, but for the most part he has strong arguments that you can reasonably debate on if you so choose. The one exception that does stick in my craw is his repeated insistence that Social Security (our old age, disability, and survivor insurance program) is a Ponzi scheme. You can check the SS thread if you so dare.
...of course, I guess that's just the ones with intellectual honesty.

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