Originally Posted by Taramarie

I will be too drunk to care anyway if he does. I am in severe pain from a tooth that needs to be removed and killing the pain with rum till the surgery.

If you're going to be having surgery or an extraction the last thing you want to do is mediate with alcohol. Alcohol has a unique property of making bleeding worse and having had five tooth extractions already (4 wisdoms and back molar that was completely rotted) let me assure you, you will bleed. I would suggest ibuprofen for pain management, both before and after--though the oral surgeon is likely to prescribe you an opiate for after.

Originally Posted by Galen

JDG really does know what he is talking about does provide good sources. Most of the people who call him a troll lost an argument with him in the past. Like me, he does not suffer fools gladly and he doesn't spare their feelings as a consequence.

Just make sure that you have your facts straight and can back them up and you will be fine.

Really?

I mean, REALLY?

Do you have an example?

This should be hilarious!

Oh, please provide your latest address before the forum shuts down - the future depends on it!

Originally Posted by playwrite

OMG, it's amazing what's crawling out from under rocks with the forum closing!

This must be a coordinated last-ditch effort to re-write you all's losing legacy here!

This is truly and awesomely hilarious way to close this sucker down! Thanks!

Future researchers are going to love this. This forum has got to be archived; it might be the future's holy scrolls for avoiding the mistakes (i.e., you all) of today!

Calm down, playdude. I wasn't calling you a sore loser. At least you have the cojones to stay in the game.
I meant anyone out there in cyberland talking shit behind JDG's back.

Originally Posted by nihilist moron

Calm down, playdude. I wasn't calling you a sore loser. At least you have the cojones to stay in the game.
I meant anyone out there in cyberland talking shit behind JDG's back.

Glick comes in and re-posts the same old same old, his like-mindless lick it up once again, and then his 'thinking' gets torn to shreds once again. He disappears again for a few months before rinse and repeat. Rinse and repeat.

He deserves ridicule from the front, the back, or from any other direction.

Sorry for being harsh to you - I'm just in that mode.

You made it interesting around here. Thanks!

Originally Posted by playwrite

Glick comes in and re-posts the same old same old, his like-mindless lick it up once again, and then his 'thinking' gets torn to shreds once again. He disappears again for a few months before rinse and repeat. Rinse and repeat.

He deserves ridicule from the front, the back, or from any other direction.

Sorry for being harsh to you - I'm just in that mode.

You made it interesting around here. Thanks!

You are welcome, and no matter what I think of you I wouldn't go around telling newbies crap about you behind your back. Some people need to grow the F up.
So long, sucka!

Oops! I missed this post:

Originally Posted by naf140230

I suggest you take a look at those who actually voted for Tim Scott. I doubt blue-collar white men have actually voted for him. Yes, there are black Republicans today, including Ben Carson, but they are only a minority.

-If I read this correctly, naf is arguing that Black Elephants somehow elected Tim Scott, when even he admits that they're a minority. Pretty silly...

Originally Posted by Kinser79

A minority large enough to elect someone a Senator? I don't think so.

-naf's assumption would require that Black Elephants be completely different from White Elephants. I really don't think so.

Originally Posted by Taramarie

...I do not know the guy but the few posts i have seen he has a nasty streak in him that i do not like...

-Someone failed to take into account whose posts I've been responding to.

Originally Posted by Odin

JDG is a massive jerk who has posted rather disgusting things about me when I mentioned that I was getting government assistance because of my Asperger's. I hope he is kept off the new forum because he does nothing but insult people and spew the same old RW talking points and lies that have been regurgitated for years.

-Translation: "Glick tells the truth about me."

If Tara is looking for a nasty streak, look to Odin:

Originally Posted by Odin

... Damn them, damn them all to Hell! There is no compromising with these lunatics. If it were up to me they would be all hanging from lampposts.

and this:

Originally Posted by Odin

...This lunacy is getting out of hand. All these right-wing racist kooks need to be shut up before they cause a f*cking civil war...

and this:

Originally Posted by Odin

...I want these nut-jobs to try their "revolution", they will be crushed and these treasonous lunatics will be purged from the body social, tried fro treason, and shot. Nothing will destroy the GOP more then it becoming known as the party of traitors.

and this:

Originally Posted by Odin

...Jim "RimJob" Robinson, the owner of the RW hate site called Free Republic, is disabled and is on SSDI. Maybe we should take away his SSDI and is government-paid wheelchair.

...and then there's his long collection of Post-First-Based-On-His-Knee-Jerk-Prejudices-And-Find-Out-The-Facts-Later.

Originally Posted by playwrite

Of course it was a good summary for racists looking to further obfuscate their racism in the manner so clearly made bare by Atwater...

-Atwater interview spent the interview explaining why they DIDN'T have to pander to racists.

Originally Posted by Classic-X'er

He's not a troll. He actually knows his stuff and presents logical arguments that he backs with facts.

-Here's an example:

Originally Posted by playwrite

... That had nothing to do with racism and everything to do with elites buying their way out of the military draft and leaving it to the working class (mostly newly arriving Irish) to fight the war....

Were does he get this stuff? The perception of "Rich Man's War, Poor Man's Fight" was pervasive among what Playdude might call "The Sheeple", but:

1) Irish Catholics were the group of Northern Whites who were the LEAST likely to serve (the Irish Brigade was hardly representative of enlistments);

2) Myth to the contrary, it wasn't hard to get out of the draft. There was draft insurance and communities often paid the commutation fee or hired a substitute;

3) Most importantly, the Demorat mob murdered Blacks and burned down a Black orphanage. Rather odd targets for a mob "that had nothing to do with racism."

PW should try to study history before discussing it.

Originally Posted by playwrite

... In every race this guy has been in, he's never won the Black vote. Figure it out.

-Which proves my point. Southern Republicans aren't racist.

Originally Posted by playwrite

... Is this an attempt to re-write the forum's history before it closes down...

-Odd. I'm the one who can actually point to the 4TF's true history. PW runs from it.

Originally Posted by Classic-X'er

He's not a troll. He actually knows his stuff and presents logical arguments that he backs with facts.

He's actually both. He intersperses serious posts about generational theory with ad hominem attacks on progressives.

Originally Posted by The Wonkette

He's actually both. He intersperses serious posts about generational theory with ad hominem attacks on progressives.

So all the liberals who make ad hom attacks on conservatives are also trolls?
That would make quite a list of liberal trolls.

ETA: I wouldn't call either liberal or conservative mudslingers "trolls." To me, their nastiness seems quite sincere.
The only "troll" on this forum that I know for sure was a troll was the person pretending to be a suicidal teenager, complete with a fake high school name (yes someone called the town to check.)

Originally Posted by nihilist moron

So all the liberals who make ad hom attacks on conservatives are also trolls?
That would make quite a list of liberal trolls.

It could be semantics, but to me it's trolling, and that goes on both sides of the aisle. (Yes, Playwright, I'm talking to you.)

Calling someone a "troll" is also an ad hom.

Originally Posted by JDG 66

Oops! I missed this post:


-If I read this correctly, naf is arguing that Black Elephants somehow elected Tim Scott, when even he admits that they're a minority. Pretty silly...



-naf's assumption would require that Black Elephants be completely different from White Elephants. I really don't think so.

Scott did not win the Black vote in SC; how difficult is that for you to grasp?

http://www.thestate.com/news/politic...e13900028.html

SC’s Scott poised to make history, but not with black votes

I know this might be difficult to grasp, but people do not necessarily vote by skin color. Think about that - amazing, huh?

Originally Posted by JDG 66

-Atwater interview spent the interview explaining why they DIDN'T have to pander to racists.

HorseshXt.

What he said was today it's "states rights" "cutting taxes" and a "hell of a lot more abstract" - that's the GOP.

Pretty lame attempt at obfuscating, dude.

Originally Posted by JDG 66

-Here's an example:



Were does he get this stuff? The perception of "Rich Man's War, Poor Man's Fight" was pervasive among what Playdude might call "The Sheeple", but:

1) Irish Catholics were the group of Northern Whites who were the LEAST likely to serve (the Irish Brigade was hardly representative of enlistments);

2) Myth to the contrary, it wasn't hard to get out of the draft. There was draft insurance and communities often paid the commutation fee or hired a substitute;

- from your own link -

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_City_draft_riots

he rioters were overwhelmingly working-class men, primarily ethnic Irish, resenting particularly that wealthier men, who could afford to pay a $300 (equivalent to $5,766 in 2015) commutation fee to hire a substitute, were spared from the draft.[4]

You're like shooting fish in a barrel.

Originally Posted by JDG 66

3) Most importantly, the Demorat mob murdered Blacks and burned down a Black orphanage. Rather odd targets for a mob "that had nothing to do with racism."

Racism in one place doesn't excuse it in another, and certainly doesn't come anywhere close to excusing the most vile evil institution of slavery.

And it certainly is no excuse across time. Please point to me an incident of Irish Catholic Democrats in 2016 being racists. I can certainly point that out for the a-hole that's running your Party now.

Originally Posted by JDG 66

-Odd. I'm the one who can actually point to the 4TF's true history. PW runs from it.

No, what you do is attempt to craft the most asinine excuses for your tribe's racism. It's not odd; it's your nature - that overstimulated amygdala's xenophobia makes it so.

Originally Posted by The Wonkette

It could be semantics, but to me it's trolling, and that goes on both sides of the aisle. (Yes, Playwright, I'm talking to you.)

I eat trolls for breakfast; it can get a little messy.

I'll try to be a tad cleaner.

Originally Posted by playwrite

I eat trolls for breakfast; it can get a little messy.

I'll try to be a tad cleaner.

You are what you eat!

Originally Posted by JDG 66

Oops! I missed this post:


-If I read this correctly, naf is arguing that Black Elephants somehow elected Tim Scott, when even he admits that they're a minority. Pretty silly...



-naf's assumption would require that Black Elephants be completely different from White Elephants. I really don't think so.

I did not say that. I am saying that not all Southern Republicans voted for him. Also, I understand that not all Southern Republicans are racist. But there are Southern Republicans that are. You cannot just say that racism is in one party only.

Originally Posted by nihilist moron

You are what you eat!

I know; that's why I keep potent laxatives at hand when I'm on this forum.

Is that sharing too much information?

Originally Posted by Kinser79

If you're going to be having surgery or an extraction the last thing you want to do is mediate with alcohol. Alcohol has a unique property of making bleeding worse and having had five tooth extractions already (4 wisdoms and back molar that was completely rotted) let me assure you, you will bleed. I would suggest ibuprofen for pain management, both before and after--though the oral surgeon is likely to prescribe you an opiate for after.

Oh I did not realize alcohol does that. Well today i am off to the doctor to get some medication for the infection. So maybe that will help. Ibuprofen thins blood out which makes bleeding worse. I have had experience with that unfortunately. Medication cannot come fast enough today. Started shaking today on top of the pain. Thanks for the advice.

Originally Posted by Taramarie

Oh I did not realize alcohol does that. Well today i am off to the doctor to get some medication for the infection. So maybe that will help. Ibuprofen thins blood out which makes bleeding worse. I have had experience with that unfortunately. Medication cannot come fast enough today. Started shaking today on top of the pain. Thanks for the advice.

I had a horrible painful tooth infection that ended up with a root canal a few years ago. Before that happened, I was taking pain medications on top of antibiotics and it did a number on my stomach. I had the worst heartburn that I've ever had; so bad that I was afraid that it was a heart attack and I ended up spending the night in a hospital. Fortunately, it all worked out.

I know you'll be glad when this is over! Good luck.

Originally Posted by The Wonkette

I had a horrible painful tooth infection that ended up with a root canal a few years ago. Before that happened, I was taking pain medications on top of antibiotics and it did a number on my stomach. I had the worst heartburn that I've ever had; so bad that I was afraid that it was a heart attack and I ended up spending the night in a hospital. Fortunately, it all worked out.

I know you'll be glad when this is over! Good luck.

Oh wow thanks for the warning before i start on antibiotics heck! Yes i will be so happy once i have my pills to get rid of the infection and had tooth removed. Thank you. Thanks to all for support and for advice.

Posts that discuss the behavior or character of other members of the forum by name, may or may not be trolling, but at a minimum it's boring, insulting and off-topic.

Originally Posted by Eric the Green

Posts that discuss the behavior or character of other members of the forum by name, may or may not be trolling, but at a minimum it's boring, insulting and off-topic.

I agree it is off topic which is why i said i would not speak to him so to keep it on topic and no conflict. Was not my insult.

Originally Posted by naf140230

...I am saying that not all Southern Republicans voted for him. Also, I understand that not all Southern Republicans are racist. But there are Southern Republicans that are...

-And there are a lot more Black Democrats who are racist, and they're not normally apologetic about it. Etc.

Originally Posted by playwrite

Scott did not win the Black vote in SC; how difficult is that for you to grasp?

http://www.thestate.com/news/politic...e13900028.html

....

-Senator Scott was elected by WHITE Republicans. This blows Playdude's "White Republicans hate Black people" theory out of the water. Sheesh.

Originally Posted by playwrite

... I know this might be difficult to grasp, but people do not necessarily vote by skin color. Think about that - amazing, huh...

-That was my point all along. Too bad Playdud just came around to it.

Originally Posted by playwrite

...

Originally Posted by playwrite

Racism in one place doesn't excuse it in another, and certainly doesn't come anywhere close to excusing the most vile evil institution of slavery

Originally Posted by playwrite

...

...and it was Demorats who did that. Again, when the South stopped being racist, they became Republican.

Originally Posted by playwrite

...

Originally Posted by playwrite

What he said was today it's "states rights" "cutting taxes" and a "hell of a lot more abstract" ....

-What Atwater said:

"We’re leading up to my whole strategy in the deep south in 1980, which…the whole focus group in the south was that blue collar worker. Now that’s important when you tie it back to the racist thing, because he is also the guy who is most threatened by the black, and is also the most prone to be, quote, a racist. And until 1980, and a little bit in 1976, the race issue was how you approached that vote. Plus, the most conservative guy on fiscal matters always got his vote, and the toughest son of a bitch on foreign policy matters got his vote." …
Q: But [Reagan’s] not going to lose the south if he goes along with what the blacks want on voting rights, is what you’re saying?
A: That should be a thrust of his...

...i.e., that's how Donkey's did it until 1980 (Carter won the South in 1976, after all), not how Republicans did it. Sheesh.

Originally Posted by playwrite

...

Originally Posted by playwrite

- from your own link -

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_City_draft_riots

You're like shooting fish in a barrel ....

-I posted:

Originally Posted by JDG 66

...
...The perception of "Rich Man's War, Poor Man's Fight" was pervasive among what Playdude might call "The Sheeple"...

...the dumbest bigots voted for Demorats back then, and they still do. They're just a lot more likely to be Black than Irish Catholics nowadays.

Meanwhile, this is Playdude's original post:

Originally Posted by playwrite

...That had nothing to do with racism...

-Nothing to do with racism? The facts of the Federal draft 1863-1865, Irish military participation in the US Military, and the Draft Riots:

http://ouleft.org/wp-content/uploads...il-War-Era.pdf

The draft: pp. 603-605

Irish participation: pp. 606-607 (including footnote 31)

The Draft Riots: pp. 609-610 (including endnote 37)

... Almost all of the people killed by the mob were Blacks. Obviously race had something to do with it. Or maybe he wants to argue with James McPherson and his sources. Thta's fine, but let's see Playdude's sources. Until then, a bunch of misinformed Irish New York City Tammany Hall bigots killed Blacks and burned down a Black orphanage. Sheesh.

Originally Posted by playwrite

...Racism in one place doesn't excuse it in another, and certainly doesn't come anywhere close to excusing the most vile evil institution of slavery...

-Too bad Demorats are still the race hustlers and have merely substituted slavery for socialism, as George Fitzhugh would have suggested.

It's a fact that white voters in Mississippi and Alabama vote 90% Republican, and black voters in those states vote 90% Democratic. People there vote by race. Further north, in Appalachian and border states, most whites vote Republican too; not in those numbers, but since there are fewer blacks there, they are now some of the most Republican states.

Yes, some southern Republicans will vote for a black Republican, as in SC, and for Ben Carson, etc. But many of seem to have a problem with a black president, in the case of Obama. A black liberal Democrat, seems a bit more of a problem for some whites, than a black Republican or even a white Democrat like the Clintons.

Originally Posted by Eric the Green

It's a fact that white voters in Mississippi and Alabama vote 90% Republican, and black voters in those states vote 90% Democratic. People there vote by race. Further north, in Appalachian and border states, most whites vote Republican too; not in those numbers, but since there are fewer blacks there, they are now some of the most Republican states.

Yes, some southern Republicans will vote for a black Republican, as in SC, and for Ben Carson, etc. But many of seem to have a problem with a black president, in the case of Obama. A black liberal Democrat, seems a bit more of a problem for some whites, than a black Republican or even a white Democrat like the Clintons.

Obama is considered to be a joke by most whites. The majority of whites know that he got to where he's at by being black. It is obvious to me that he has received preferential treatment on account of his race and he was accustomed to getting his way without having to try hard, without having to be persistent, able to scratch and claw his way through adversity and be open to facing major challenges. I associate Obama as being a novelty type president. He represents everything that regular white folks hate about progressives. Progressives are only about advancing people because of their skin tone/race, their gender, their sexual preference or their preference toward advancing more passively natured people.

Originally Posted by Taramarie

Oh I did not realize alcohol does that. Well today i am off to the doctor to get some medication for the infection. So maybe that will help. Ibuprofen thins blood out which makes bleeding worse. I have had experience with that unfortunately. Medication cannot come fast enough today. Started shaking today on top of the pain. Thanks for the advice.

Yes Alcohol thins the blood. It also harms more organs than the Ibuprofen. That said if you have an infection the best course of action is to get started on antibiotics as quickly as possible. Afterward you'll probably want to drink Kifer to replace your gut fauna.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kefir

I've also used buttermilk and yogurt as well after my extractions. The MD gave me some sort of opiate but I didn't get the script filled (well after the first time). A bag of frozen peas worked just as well and didn't get me high.

Originally Posted by Eric the Green

Posts that discuss the behavior or character of other members of the forum by name, may or may not be trolling, but at a minimum it's boring, insulting and off-topic.

Of course, and as well all know Eric is never boring, insulting or off-topic.