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Post#351 at 05-13-2016 08:16 PM by Classic-X'er [at joined Sep 2012 #posts 1,789]
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Quote Originally Posted by playwrite View Post
You're relatively inconsequential compared to this Black guy. It makes you angry... and, that makes you the joke.
If I was directly competing with him for a position in public office, you might have a point that you could use against me. I consider Obama and Kerry as being equals despite the obvious difference between their skin tones and positions in public office. I don't consider one to better than the other or consider one to be a stronger person than the other. The fact that he's black and that he is the current President of the United States has no emotional impact on me. I spend more time laughing at him then I spend screaming at him. He's a joke to me. A literal joke to me. I don't take anything he has to say seriously.







Post#352 at 05-13-2016 08:20 PM by princeofcats67 [at joined Jan 2010 #posts 1,995]
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Quote Originally Posted by JDG 66 View Post
...

-Tell me more...

...
It pretty much speaks for itself. As far as I'm concerned, he had
his chance to come-clean and blew it. He really was a sore loser.

Anyway, I did want to say that I had a good time interacting with
you, JDG. I'll miss it.


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Post#353 at 05-14-2016 05:24 AM by Galen [at joined Aug 2010 #posts 1,019]
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Quote Originally Posted by princeofcats67 View Post
It's nice of you to offer, Miss Kiwi,
but I think I'm gonna take a pass.
Most unfortunate, you are the only one to figure out my user name.
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Post#354 at 05-14-2016 06:06 AM by pbrower2a [at "Michigrim" joined May 2005 #posts 15,016]
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Quote Originally Posted by Galen View Post
Most unfortunate, you are the only one to figure out my user name.
Physician. Galen was one of the earliest authorities on medicine.
The greatest evil is not now done in those sordid "dens of crime" (or) even in concentration camps and labour camps. In those we see its final result. But it is conceived and ordered... in clean, carpeted, warmed and well-lighted offices, by (those) who do not need to raise their voices. Hence, naturally enough, my symbol for Hell is something like the bureaucracy of a police state or the office of a thoroughly nasty business concern."


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Post#355 at 05-14-2016 06:58 AM by pbrower2a [at "Michigrim" joined May 2005 #posts 15,016]
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Quote Originally Posted by Classic-X'er View Post
Obama is considered to be a joke by most whites. The majority of whites know that he got to where he's at by being black.
Absolutely wrong. Barack Obama is one of the most astute politicians in American history. He has become President by beating white politicians at their own game. Being black? Having an African father is not how most American blacks get their African ancestry. Only through his wife and children does he have any real connection to the bulk of African-Americans.

It is obvious to me that he has received preferential treatment on account of his race and he was accustomed to getting his way without having to try hard, without having to be persistent, able to scratch and claw his way through adversity and be open to facing major challenges.
The abject failure of George W. Bush as President gave an opening that he was able to turn into the ultimate opportunity. In view of how the economy has gone since he became President he has certainly met the biggest economic challenge since FDR was new in the Presidency. He met a similar economic meltdown, only earlier in its destructive phase. To the extent that Congress has allowed he has undone much of the failure of his predecessor. He has gotten the most dangerous terrorist in inhuman history whacked as if the terrorist were a rival gangster.

He is an above-average President.

Do you think the Presidency an easy job? Only physically.

I associate Obama as being a novelty type president.
Bullhist!

He may be the last black President for a long time. We will have a Jewish President (just consider how many Jews are in high office in the US Senate and in Governorship) before we have another black President. We will have a Hispanic President before we have another black President because white people do not have as much animosity toward Hispanics.

The fault with being a black President is that he could not get away with much -- like calling attention to the degradation and debilitation that mass poverty creates -- and being a brass target for gutter politics based upon the President's ethnic origin. When people protest him with this sort of message





Nobody denies his African father... but this President seems to be more honest than any President since at least Carter (who was an ineffective President, but that had nothing to do with a lack of integrity). It's about being "Halfrican", as the wildly-successful rabble-rouser Rush Limbaugh calls him. Just expect no solutions from someone like Limbaugh.

He represents everything that regular white folks hate about progressives.
Barack Obama became President despite being non-white. I can understand the visceral fear that many white people have about having a President with so much melanin.

Progressives are only about advancing people because of their skin tone/race, their gender, their sexual preference or their preference toward advancing more passively natured people.
...and the Radical Right heavily exploits visceral fear of people who aren't white primitives. After all, that (racial slur of your choosing) wants YOUR DAUGHTER!

Progressives wish to empower people who have believed that they have no chance -- by making them less passive.
The greatest evil is not now done in those sordid "dens of crime" (or) even in concentration camps and labour camps. In those we see its final result. But it is conceived and ordered... in clean, carpeted, warmed and well-lighted offices, by (those) who do not need to raise their voices. Hence, naturally enough, my symbol for Hell is something like the bureaucracy of a police state or the office of a thoroughly nasty business concern."


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Post#356 at 05-14-2016 08:55 AM by playwrite [at NYC joined Jul 2005 #posts 10,451]
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Quote Originally Posted by princeofcats67 View Post
Well Mr. Playwrite, that was your chance to come-clean and possibly gain some sort of redemption.
Too bad, really. I'm kinda disappointed, but I guess I really should've expected as much from you.

The bottom-line is that you know what you did, and I know what you did, and now you know that
I know what you did. That's enough for me.

Eh? Hakuna Matata. I'm quite certain The Universe has something appropriate in-store
for you. You more than anyone should know that 'a man rarely escapes his destiny'.


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Too many assumptions and prejudice being spread. I can only speak for this white person, but my issues with Obama are only with his policies.
I have voted in primaries for 'black' candidates and grow weary with constant refrain that if you disagree with Obama on any issue that you must be a racist.
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Post#358 at 05-14-2016 09:38 AM by playwrite [at NYC joined Jul 2005 #posts 10,451]
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Quote Originally Posted by JDG 66 View Post
-Which is not the same thing as voting in a racist way.



-Rubbish. It's Obama's attitude and policies which were apparent by the Spring of 2008. They wouldn't have wanted a White with those attitudes any more than a Black; Bill Clinton (a White man, for those who are confused) never got 50% of the vote. OTOH, attitudes and policies are why they'll vote for Carson or Scott.



-The guy is an empty suit whose only talent is reading stuff of a teleprompter (which is how he got noticed in the first place during the 2004 convention).



-I think that way. We knew what Bush and Kerry's grades were in 2004 (Bush was 1 point ahead, IIRC). It's relevant because Obama is claimed to be some sort of genius without any proof.



-He was accepted at a time when said law school was desperate for tokens. This is the same institution that, a little latter, gave a position to Elizabeth Crocagewea Warren. If he did so great, you'd think that he'd be happy to show off his transcripts, or his SATs (or whatever he used to get in. Obama isn't exactly known for his humility.



-Everyone knows about Chester Arthur's troubles, I assume, and even John McCain had his.

As for school transcripts, answered above.



-Rubbish. Scott is pretty darn Black. Elephants, White or otherwise, had no problem voting for him because he isn't a total Libtard. It completely demolishes the "Southern Strategy" myth.

Sheesh.
You've tried to deflect this with some weird comparisons of NYC draft riots to Southern slavery, weird spins on historical facts of the Southern Strategy and Lee Atwater's' own quotes, and weird offer of some token Black representative that doesn't have Black community support. You're working even harder than your usual obfuscation and outright lies. Why?

It's pretty clear; I don't even need to name it.

You call a guy "an empty suit" who has been the US President for nearly 8 years. You question his birth certificate and now his school transcripts. You don't even bother to look up what "magnum cum laude" means at Harvard Law School. Just as an aside, it means, at a minimum, you graduated in the top 10% of your class. To give you a sense of that in your own terms; its likely that 100% of those graduating from Harvard Law School not only can buy that dream doublewide you so desperately want, but could buy your entire trailer park every month if not every week.

You're just some pissed-off White dude, living in some backward part of a Border state, who peaked with his nondescript military pogue jobs, now being left further and further behind while hanging on until other people's taxes pay for your retirement. So sure, you grasp at the only explanation that your genetic makeup allows - its the lessor N---- who got where he did, not on merit but because of all his N----lovin friends.

A peson might label you an assured racist. Another person might label you just another of the elite's sheeple.

But the one word that best sums you up, James? Pathetic.
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Quote Originally Posted by radind View Post
Too many assumptions and prejudice being spread. I can only speak for this white person, but my issues with Obama are only with his policies.
I have voted in primaries for 'black' candidates and grow weary with constant refrain that if you disagree with Obama on any issue that you must be a racist.
And I'm way okay with that. I may disagree with you on Obama's policies and accomplishments, but I would never suggest our differences are a result of racism.
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Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Green View Post
It's exactly the same...
-No. No more than if Blacks tend to vote a certain way (which you've already admitted they do. As a matter of fact, Blacks tend to be more monolithic, which, using your logic, makes them even more racist. An argument for Black racism in voting might be reasonable, considering the number who voted for Obama simply because he was Black. Or part Black. Or whatever.

Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Green View Post
...Trump's demand to see Obama's college records is anti-black racism pure and simple....
-No it isn't. It's reasonable, given that part of Obama's appeal was his supposed intellectual brilliance. If Bush and Kerry (and Gore, IIRC) could release their college transcripts, why not the Teleprompter-in-Chief?

Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Green View Post
...and blacks know it. That's why they'll vote for Hillary over 90%...
1) Thta's yet to be proven;

2) Blacks overwhelmingly vote for the Donkeys because they are Playdude's "Sheeple": Backwards, envious, and looking for scapegoats for their inability to succeed in a free market economy.

Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Green View Post
...Prove it. And Warren is very smart and hard-working too, as Obama is...
1) We know that Fauxahontas claimed to be part Indian. That's undeniable. We also know they were looking for tokens. That's undeniable. We now also know that her claim was 100% B.s. That's undeniable.

2) Prove that either one of them is smart or hard working. Heh! I know, a look Obama's transcripts would be a nice start!

Quote Originally Posted by pbrower2a View Post
Absolutely wrong. Barack Obama is one of the most astute politicians in American history...
-He's an empty suit how got elected POTUS on his ability to read a teleprompter, his supposed (and unproven) intellectual power, and some peoples' delusion that electing the guy who sat in an anti-American race baiters' pews for 20 years in office would bring racial harmony. Before that, a Black constituency seems to have voted for him because he was Black, and he moved up because he was tolerant of Chicago corruption.

Quote Originally Posted by playwrite View Post
You've tried to deflect this with some weird comparisons of NYC draft riots to Southern slavery, weird spins on historical facts of the Southern Strategy and Lee Atwater's' own quotes, and weird offer of some token Black representative that doesn't have Black community support...
-They're all facts that proggies find impossible to rebut because they're true.

Atwater clearly stated that if Elepehants tried to appeal to racism, it wouldn't work the way it did when Donkeys did it:


http://www.powerlineblog.com/archive...really-say.php

Atwater has already said several times during the interview that race is no longer a significant element in Southern politics. Here, he specifically disclaims agreement with the proposition that Reagan’s policy positions contained a subconscious appeal to racial prejudice. That was Professor Lamis’s suggestion, not his. But he goes on to make the argument that even if some voters draw a subconscious connection between, say, cutting the food stamp program and race, the absence of any specifically racial appeal shows what a minor factor race has become in Southern politics:

But I’m saying that if it is getting that abstract and that coded, then we’re doing away with the racial problem one way or another. You follow me? ‘Cause obviously sitting around saying, we want to cut taxes, we want to cut this, and we want–is much more abstract than even the busing thing, and a hell of a lot more abstract than nigger, nigger. So any way you look at it, race is coming on the back burner.
Liberals like Martin Bashir cite this interview for the proposition that Republicans skillfully conceal appeals to racism in seemingly innocuous policy discussions. Obviously, Atwater said nothing of the sort. And he declined to agree with Professor Lamis’s suggestion that Reagan’s talk about cutting programs like legal services and food stamps “gets to” the racist side of the George Wallace voter, albeit unconsciously. “I’m not saying it.” What Atwater did say, repeatedly and unambiguously, is that racial prejudice no longer plays a significant role in Southern elections, and that Reagan won the South in 1980 on the same issues with which he swept the rest of the country: the economy and national defense.

Tim Scott's election proves that Whites are now more than happy to vote for a Black man who isn't a Libtard. It shows that as the South has given up racism, it has become Republican.

The case of NYC's Irish Donkey's committing murder, theft, and arson, shows that what hasn't changed since the 1860s is that the Demorats are still the party of the envious, ignorant loser, ready to use violence (in a rather incomptetent fashion) vs. anyone that their masters can point to as a scapegoat. Prediction: The next big riot in America will by perpetrated largely by the members of one of teh Donkey Party's constituencies.

The rest seems to be Playdude's ignorance of history impotent howls of pain .

Quote Originally Posted by playwrite View Post
And I'm way okay with that. I may disagree with you on Obama's policies and accomplishments, but I would never suggest our differences are a result of racism.
-PW's spent the last seven and a half years arguing otherwise, including the post I responded to.







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Quote Originally Posted by JDG 66 View Post
-No. No more than if Blacks tend to vote a certain way (which you've already admitted they do. As a matter of fact, Blacks tend to be more monolithic, which, using your logic, makes them even more racist. An argument for Black racism in voting might be reasonable, considering the number who voted for Obama simply because he was Black. Or part Black. Or whatever.



-No it isn't. It's reasonable, given that part of Obama's appeal was his supposed intellectual brilliance. If Bush and Kerry (and Gore, IIRC) could release their college transcripts, why not the Teleprompter-in-Chief?



1) Thta's yet to be proven;

2) Blacks overwhelmingly vote for the Donkeys because they are Playdude's "Sheeple": Backwards, envious, and looking for scapegoats for their inability to succeed in a free market economy.



1) We know that Fauxahontas claimed to be part Indian. That's undeniable. We also know they were looking for tokens. That's undeniable. We now also know that her claim was 100% B.s. That's undeniable.

2) Prove that either one of them is smart or hard working. Heh! I know, a look Obama's transcripts would be a nice start!



-He's an empty suit how got elected POTUS on his ability to read a teleprompter, his supposed (and unproven) intellectual power, and some peoples' delusion that electing the guy who sat in an anti-American race baiters' pews for 20 years in office would bring racial harmony. Before that, a Black constituency seems to have voted for him because he was Black, and he moved up because he was tolerant of Chicago corruption.



-They're all facts that proggies find impossible to rebut because they're true.

Atwater clearly stated that if Elepehants tried to appeal to racism, it wouldn't work the way it did when Donkeys did it:


http://www.powerlineblog.com/archive...really-say.php

Atwater has already said several times during the interview that race is no longer a significant element in Southern politics. Here, he specifically disclaims agreement with the proposition that Reagan’s policy positions contained a subconscious appeal to racial prejudice. That was Professor Lamis’s suggestion, not his. But he goes on to make the argument that even if some voters draw a subconscious connection between, say, cutting the food stamp program and race, the absence of any specifically racial appeal shows what a minor factor race has become in Southern politics:

But I’m saying that if it is getting that abstract and that coded, then we’re doing away with the racial problem one way or another. You follow me? ‘Cause obviously sitting around saying, we want to cut taxes, we want to cut this, and we want–is much more abstract than even the busing thing, and a hell of a lot more abstract than nigger, nigger. So any way you look at it, race is coming on the back burner.
Liberals like Martin Bashir cite this interview for the proposition that Republicans skillfully conceal appeals to racism in seemingly innocuous policy discussions. Obviously, Atwater said nothing of the sort. And he declined to agree with Professor Lamis’s suggestion that Reagan’s talk about cutting programs like legal services and food stamps “gets to” the racist side of the George Wallace voter, albeit unconsciously. “I’m not saying it.” What Atwater did say, repeatedly and unambiguously, is that racial prejudice no longer plays a significant role in Southern elections, and that Reagan won the South in 1980 on the same issues with which he swept the rest of the country: the economy and national defense.

Tim Scott's election proves that Whites are now more than happy to vote for a Black man who isn't a Libtard. It shows that as the South has given up racism, it has become Republican.

The case of NYC's Irish Donkey's committing murder, theft, and arson, shows that what hasn't changed since the 1860s is that the Demorats are still the party of the envious, ignorant loser, ready to use violence (in a rather incomptetent fashion) vs. anyone that their masters can point to as a scapegoat. Prediction: The next big riot in America will by perpetrated largely by the members of one of teh Donkey Party's constituencies.

The rest seems to be Playdude's ignorance of history impotent howls of pain .



-PW's spent the last seven and a half years arguing otherwise, including the post I responded to.
Gad, you're such a moron you're responding to the wrong post.

As to the rest - you're not fooling anyone with the repetition of your debunked horseshXt. You got an entire thread, "Glick Shticks" that lays bear your infantile modus operendi (look it up). You're one pathetic piece of work, Jimmie Boy.
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Quote Originally Posted by pbrower2a View Post
Physician. Galen was one of the earliest authorities on medicine.
Wrong. That is not why I chose that user name.
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Quote Originally Posted by playwrite View Post
Gad, you're such a moron you're responding to the wrong post...
-#360 responds to Eric, PBrower2a, and PW in order. Playwrite seems to be confused.


Quote Originally Posted by playwrite View Post
... you're not fooling anyone with the repetition of your debunked horseshXt...
-He must be talking about how "The NY Draft riots had NOTHING to do with race."

PW et al have failed to show that Republicans won't vote for a Black person. The reason they can't is because they do vote for them. Everything these proggies post just makes them look silly.

And the reason the "Glick's Schticks" post is so popular is that it blew up in Playdude's face:
Rani Nihilist Moron of my analysis of the proggies:
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I'd say he drilled straight into their spinal cords. Without anesthesia.
Memories...
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Quote Originally Posted by playwrite View Post
You call a guy "an empty suit" who has been the US President for nearly 8 years... You don't even bother to look up what "magnum cum laude" means...
-I know exactly what it means. It's irrelevant. We have a better way to judge Obama's brain power: His public pronouncements. Obama is the supposed super-genius who:

http://www.fourthturning.com/forum/s...432#post557432

...thought that the USA has 57 states, who thought Austrian is a language, who obviously didn't know what a Navy Corpsman is (and thought it was pronounced "Corpse Man ), and without the benefit of a teleprompter, sounds like a high school student when confronted with a tough question.







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Quote Originally Posted by JDG 66 View Post
-I know exactly what it means. It's irrelevant. We have a better way to judge Obama's brain power: His public pronouncements. Obama is the supposed super-genius who:

http://www.fourthturning.com/forum/s...432#post557432

...thought that the USA has 57 states, who thought Austrian is a language, who obviously didn't know what a Navy Corpsman is (and thought it was pronounced "Corpse Man ), and without the benefit of a teleprompter, sounds like a high school student when confronted with a tough question.
I've already noted on another thread that if these things make Obama less that brilliant, the relative comparison makes you an armadillo with its brains blown out stuck under a doublewide.

Here, I'll just remind the tread that you indeed call the President an empty suit, questioned his birth right and his school transcripts - and that it is obvious you do so because, like most t-baggers, you're a racist a-hole who can't help blame his pathetic life on the bogeyman.
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