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Post#126 at 01-20-2006 04:37 PM by Zarathustra [at Where the Northwest meets the Southwest joined Mar 2003 #posts 9,198]
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Re: Mad at madness

Quote Originally Posted by Virgil K. Saari
Quote Originally Posted by Mary Fitzmas
Back on topic, I think the thing that probably most angered right wingers last week about Gore's speech was that he was proud. If there's one thing they can't stomach, it's a liberal with balls that looks down on them as the pieces of shit they are.
What I have read from the right wing was anger at his anger. It's an irate circle-jerk from what I can tell. :arrow: :arrow: :arrow:
The Crown of Creation will do as the Crown of Creation does, Mr. Saari. :wink:
Americans have had enough of glitz and roar . . Foreboding has deepened, and spiritual currents have darkened . . .
THE FOURTH TURNING IS AT HAND.
See T4T, p. 253.







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Re: Mad at madness

Quote Originally Posted by Virgil K. Saari
Quote Originally Posted by Mary Fitzmas
Back on topic, I think the thing that probably most angered right wingers last week about Gore's speech was that he was proud. If there's one thing they can't stomach, it's a liberal with balls that looks down on them as the pieces of shit they are.
What I have read from the right wing was anger at his anger. It's an irate circle-jerk from what I can tell. :arrow: :arrow: :arrow:
The Crown of Creation will do as the Crown of Creation does, Mr. Saari. :wink:
Americans have had enough of glitz and roar . . Foreboding has deepened, and spiritual currents have darkened . . .
THE FOURTH TURNING IS AT HAND.
See T4T, p. 253.







Post#128 at 01-20-2006 04:41 PM by Marx & Lennon [at '47 cohort still lost in Falwelland joined Sep 2001 #posts 16,709]
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Re: Mad at madness

Quote Originally Posted by Virgil K. Saari
Quote Originally Posted by Mary Fitzmas
Back on topic, I think the thing that probably most angered right wingers last week about Gore's speech was that he was proud. If there's one thing they can't stomach, it's a liberal with balls that looks down on them as the pieces of shit they are.
What I have read from the right wing was anger at his anger. It's an irate circle-jerk from what I can tell. :arrow: :arrow: :arrow:
We need a little bifurcated anger in this morose time. Anger churns the bile and vents the sleen. A needed purgative for the body politic.

Arrows for sure.
Marx: Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies.
Lennon: You either get tired fighting for peace, or you die.







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Re: Mad at madness

Quote Originally Posted by Virgil K. Saari
Quote Originally Posted by Mary Fitzmas
Back on topic, I think the thing that probably most angered right wingers last week about Gore's speech was that he was proud. If there's one thing they can't stomach, it's a liberal with balls that looks down on them as the pieces of shit they are.
What I have read from the right wing was anger at his anger. It's an irate circle-jerk from what I can tell. :arrow: :arrow: :arrow:
We need a little bifurcated anger in this morose time. Anger churns the bile and vents the sleen. A needed purgative for the body politic.

Arrows for sure.
Marx: Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies.
Lennon: You either get tired fighting for peace, or you die.







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I was not happy to see the anger seeping in.

One of the Gore's best angles is that he has largely stayed OUT of the Culture Wars, making him a clear choice for Millies who are tired of rhetoric and want a leader. Even though he is picking his battles, I was hoping to see him wait until really the last minute before coming forward...possibly with a new alternative energy plan in hand, to announce his candidacy in '08 (a Millie fantasy?)!!!

Al Gore is easily my first choice for '08, '12, or beyond, if that means anything. Gray Champion indeed.







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I was not happy to see the anger seeping in.

One of the Gore's best angles is that he has largely stayed OUT of the Culture Wars, making him a clear choice for Millies who are tired of rhetoric and want a leader. Even though he is picking his battles, I was hoping to see him wait until really the last minute before coming forward...possibly with a new alternative energy plan in hand, to announce his candidacy in '08 (a Millie fantasy?)!!!

Al Gore is easily my first choice for '08, '12, or beyond, if that means anything. Gray Champion indeed.







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Quote Originally Posted by eekelsey
I was not happy to see the anger seeping in.

One of the Gore's best angles is that he has largely stayed OUT of the Culture Wars, making him a clear choice for Millies who are tired of rhetoric and want a leader. Even though he is picking his battles, I was hoping to see him wait until really the last minute before coming forward...possibly with a new alternative energy plan in hand, to announce his candidacy in '08 (a Millie fantasy?)!!!

Al Gore is easily my first choice for '08, '12, or beyond, if that means anything. Gray Champion indeed.
But how could he be a serious GC candidate if he stood idly by while all of this crap is going on? I am glad to see him pop up. I just hope his recent weight gain is not a sign of a more serious problem. But my guess his recent ventures have been stressful. I know I turn to McDonald's under stress.
Americans have had enough of glitz and roar . . Foreboding has deepened, and spiritual currents have darkened . . .
THE FOURTH TURNING IS AT HAND.
See T4T, p. 253.







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Quote Originally Posted by eekelsey
I was not happy to see the anger seeping in.

One of the Gore's best angles is that he has largely stayed OUT of the Culture Wars, making him a clear choice for Millies who are tired of rhetoric and want a leader. Even though he is picking his battles, I was hoping to see him wait until really the last minute before coming forward...possibly with a new alternative energy plan in hand, to announce his candidacy in '08 (a Millie fantasy?)!!!

Al Gore is easily my first choice for '08, '12, or beyond, if that means anything. Gray Champion indeed.
But how could he be a serious GC candidate if he stood idly by while all of this crap is going on? I am glad to see him pop up. I just hope his recent weight gain is not a sign of a more serious problem. But my guess his recent ventures have been stressful. I know I turn to McDonald's under stress.
Americans have had enough of glitz and roar . . Foreboding has deepened, and spiritual currents have darkened . . .
THE FOURTH TURNING IS AT HAND.
See T4T, p. 253.







Post#134 at 01-20-2006 05:15 PM by Earl and Mooch [at Delaware - we pave paradise and put up parking lots joined Sep 2002 #posts 2,106]
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Quote Originally Posted by eekelsey
I was not happy to see the anger seeping in.

One of the Gore's best angles is that he has largely stayed OUT of the Culture Wars . . .
You're probably a little young to remember the crusade his wife Tipper led against popular music with questionable lyrics.

Quote Originally Posted by Peter Gibbons
But how could he be a serious GC candidate if he stood idly by while all of this crap is going on? I am glad to see him pop up. I just hope his recent weight gain is not a sign of a more serious problem. But my guess his recent ventures have been stressful. I know I turn to McDonald's under stress.
I originally wasn't going to watch the speech, because I'd read it here on line. I wound up tuning in for the second half of it, and it actually sounded better than it read! What I don't get is why it was ignored the way it was.

As for McDonald's - it's comfort food for me too. But I just found out that I have the same weight and height as Ariel Sharon . . . :shock:
"My generation, we were the generation that was going to change the world: somehow we were going to make it a little less lonely, a little less hungry, a little more just place. But it seems that when that promise slipped through our hands we didnīt replace it with nothing but lost faith."

Bruce Springsteen, 1987
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Quote Originally Posted by eekelsey
I was not happy to see the anger seeping in.

One of the Gore's best angles is that he has largely stayed OUT of the Culture Wars . . .
You're probably a little young to remember the crusade his wife Tipper led against popular music with questionable lyrics.

Quote Originally Posted by Peter Gibbons
But how could he be a serious GC candidate if he stood idly by while all of this crap is going on? I am glad to see him pop up. I just hope his recent weight gain is not a sign of a more serious problem. But my guess his recent ventures have been stressful. I know I turn to McDonald's under stress.
I originally wasn't going to watch the speech, because I'd read it here on line. I wound up tuning in for the second half of it, and it actually sounded better than it read! What I don't get is why it was ignored the way it was.

As for McDonald's - it's comfort food for me too. But I just found out that I have the same weight and height as Ariel Sharon . . . :shock:
"My generation, we were the generation that was going to change the world: somehow we were going to make it a little less lonely, a little less hungry, a little more just place. But it seems that when that promise slipped through our hands we didnīt replace it with nothing but lost faith."

Bruce Springsteen, 1987
http://brucebase.wikispaces.com/1987...+YORK+CITY,+NY







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One thing that keeps resonanting in my mind is this portion of Gore's 2000 concession speech:

Some have asked whether I have any regrets and I do have one regret: that I didn't get the chance to stay and fight for the American people over the next four years, especially for those who need burdens lifted and barriers removed, especially for those who feel their voices have not been heard. I heard you and I will not forget.

A few months ago I read Earth in the Balance and have reading up on Gore. He loves Saecular theory and Ken Wilber's works. Something in my gut says this may be the man, and one I could believe in.
Americans have had enough of glitz and roar . . Foreboding has deepened, and spiritual currents have darkened . . .
THE FOURTH TURNING IS AT HAND.
See T4T, p. 253.







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One thing that keeps resonanting in my mind is this portion of Gore's 2000 concession speech:

Some have asked whether I have any regrets and I do have one regret: that I didn't get the chance to stay and fight for the American people over the next four years, especially for those who need burdens lifted and barriers removed, especially for those who feel their voices have not been heard. I heard you and I will not forget.

A few months ago I read Earth in the Balance and have reading up on Gore. He loves Saecular theory and Ken Wilber's works. Something in my gut says this may be the man, and one I could believe in.
Americans have had enough of glitz and roar . . Foreboding has deepened, and spiritual currents have darkened . . .
THE FOURTH TURNING IS AT HAND.
See T4T, p. 253.







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Quote Originally Posted by Stokey the Bear
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As for McDonald's - it's comfort food for me too. But I just found out that I have the same weight and height as Ariel Sharon . . . :shock:
As long as you are not responsible for the Gaza pullout, and therefore not responsible for "dividing God's land", Pat Robertson says you're safe. Now that should be some "comfort". :wink:
Americans have had enough of glitz and roar . . Foreboding has deepened, and spiritual currents have darkened . . .
THE FOURTH TURNING IS AT HAND.
See T4T, p. 253.







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Quote Originally Posted by Stokey the Bear
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As for McDonald's - it's comfort food for me too. But I just found out that I have the same weight and height as Ariel Sharon . . . :shock:
As long as you are not responsible for the Gaza pullout, and therefore not responsible for "dividing God's land", Pat Robertson says you're safe. Now that should be some "comfort". :wink:
Americans have had enough of glitz and roar . . Foreboding has deepened, and spiritual currents have darkened . . .
THE FOURTH TURNING IS AT HAND.
See T4T, p. 253.







Post#140 at 01-20-2006 05:23 PM by Earl and Mooch [at Delaware - we pave paradise and put up parking lots joined Sep 2002 #posts 2,106]
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Quote Originally Posted by Peter Gibbons
Quote Originally Posted by Stokey the Bear
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As for McDonald's - it's comfort food for me too. But I just found out that I have the same weight and height as Ariel Sharon . . . :shock:
As long as you are not responsible for the Gaza pullout, and therefore not responsible for "dividing God's land", Pat Robertson says you're safe. Now that should be some "comfort". :wink:
I also have short legs - and three grandparents who failed to reach 75 for one reason or another. (The map in my Bible, incidentally, says David and Solomon never ruled over what's now the Gaza Strip.)
"My generation, we were the generation that was going to change the world: somehow we were going to make it a little less lonely, a little less hungry, a little more just place. But it seems that when that promise slipped through our hands we didnīt replace it with nothing but lost faith."

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Quote Originally Posted by Peter Gibbons
Quote Originally Posted by Stokey the Bear
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As for McDonald's - it's comfort food for me too. But I just found out that I have the same weight and height as Ariel Sharon . . . :shock:
As long as you are not responsible for the Gaza pullout, and therefore not responsible for "dividing God's land", Pat Robertson says you're safe. Now that should be some "comfort". :wink:
I also have short legs - and three grandparents who failed to reach 75 for one reason or another. (The map in my Bible, incidentally, says David and Solomon never ruled over what's now the Gaza Strip.)
"My generation, we were the generation that was going to change the world: somehow we were going to make it a little less lonely, a little less hungry, a little more just place. But it seems that when that promise slipped through our hands we didnīt replace it with nothing but lost faith."

Bruce Springsteen, 1987
http://brucebase.wikispaces.com/1987...+YORK+CITY,+NY







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Quote Originally Posted by Stokey the Bear
Quote Originally Posted by eekelsey
I was not happy to see the anger seeping in.

One of the Gore's best angles is that he has largely stayed OUT of the Culture Wars . . .
You're probably a little young to remember the crusade his wife Tipper led against popular music with questionable lyrics.
If I am too young to remember something, so is the entire Millennial generation. Remember Archie Bunker? I don't. How about Chernobyl? Not me. Learned about it in History class.

From the Millennial POV, there has ALWAYS been a crusade against popular music with questionable lyrics.







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Quote Originally Posted by Stokey the Bear
Quote Originally Posted by eekelsey
I was not happy to see the anger seeping in.

One of the Gore's best angles is that he has largely stayed OUT of the Culture Wars . . .
You're probably a little young to remember the crusade his wife Tipper led against popular music with questionable lyrics.
If I am too young to remember something, so is the entire Millennial generation. Remember Archie Bunker? I don't. How about Chernobyl? Not me. Learned about it in History class.

From the Millennial POV, there has ALWAYS been a crusade against popular music with questionable lyrics.







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Quote Originally Posted by eekelsey
Quote Originally Posted by Stokey the Bear
Quote Originally Posted by eekelsey
I was not happy to see the anger seeping in.

One of the Gore's best angles is that he has largely stayed OUT of the Culture Wars . . .
You're probably a little young to remember the crusade his wife Tipper led against popular music with questionable lyrics.
If I am too young to remember something, so is the entire Millennial generation. Remember Archie Bunker? I don't. How about Chernobyl? Not me. Learned about it in History class.

From the Millennial POV, there has ALWAYS been a crusade against popular music with questionable lyrics.
Yeah, Tipper got out of hand with the anti-"Me So Horny" crusade, but that was Tipper, it wasn't Al. I mean what was he supposed to do, tell her and the PMRC to fuck off?!

Fortunately, as Millie Eekelsey has noted, it's a non-issue anymore. We haven't had any Ice-T fiascos for awhile now. The PMRC is a bad 80s flashback.
"It's easy to grin, when your ship's come in, and you've got the stock market beat. But the man who's worth while is the man who can smile when his pants are too tight in the seat." Judge Smails, Caddyshack.

"Every man with a bellyful of the classics is an enemy of the human race." Henry Miller.

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Quote Originally Posted by eekelsey
Quote Originally Posted by Stokey the Bear
Quote Originally Posted by eekelsey
I was not happy to see the anger seeping in.

One of the Gore's best angles is that he has largely stayed OUT of the Culture Wars . . .
You're probably a little young to remember the crusade his wife Tipper led against popular music with questionable lyrics.
If I am too young to remember something, so is the entire Millennial generation. Remember Archie Bunker? I don't. How about Chernobyl? Not me. Learned about it in History class.

From the Millennial POV, there has ALWAYS been a crusade against popular music with questionable lyrics.
Yeah, Tipper got out of hand with the anti-"Me So Horny" crusade, but that was Tipper, it wasn't Al. I mean what was he supposed to do, tell her and the PMRC to fuck off?!

Fortunately, as Millie Eekelsey has noted, it's a non-issue anymore. We haven't had any Ice-T fiascos for awhile now. The PMRC is a bad 80s flashback.
"It's easy to grin, when your ship's come in, and you've got the stock market beat. But the man who's worth while is the man who can smile when his pants are too tight in the seat." Judge Smails, Caddyshack.

"Every man with a bellyful of the classics is an enemy of the human race." Henry Miller.

1979 - Generation Perdu







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Quote Originally Posted by Marx & Lennon
Quote Originally Posted by Anthony '58 II
Hey, if we're gonna have a war, let's have a war - complete with general mobilization and the full employment that brings, a universal military draft which all classes are subjected to, wage and price controls, windfall profits taxes on the Halliburtons of this world - the whole nine yards.

Let's see how "patriotic" the conservatives will be feeling then; but first you have to get the conservatives out of power, and stressing "rights" over responsibilities during a 4T simply won't get it done.

And don't kid yourselves: Total war is inevitable; the only thing in question is whether the "right" or the "left" gets to direct the war effort.
Do you have a death wish? Total war is not a euphamism to be thrown around lightly. While I agree that we need to reign-in the rich-and-powerful, setting the world on fire is no way to do it. :evil:


OK then, if the liberals can't stomach this approach, perhaps they should try a redux of 1930s-era isolationism: Yes, oppose the war in Iraq, etc., but at the same time throw the eco-nerds overboard and advocate aggressive domestic oil exploration (that means drilling, for those of you in Rio Linda, West Palm Beach and Staten Island) plus unbridled nuclear power - that way, the left would come across as manly, go-it-alone, "America First" types - and they would eat it up in southern Ohio, and maybe even southern Louisiana.

Of course it would probably take a generational coup within the Democratic Party to accomplish something like this, since such an agenda has "Nomad" written all over it - but hey, if you're going to strike out anyway, you might as well do it swinging for the fences instead of just standing in the batter's box and hoping for a walk, as the left is so obviously doing now.
But maybe if the putative Robin Hoods stopped trying to take from law-abiding citizens and give to criminals, take from men and give to women, take from believers and give to anti-believers, take from citizens and give to "undocumented" immigrants, and take from heterosexuals and give to homosexuals, they might have a lot more success in taking from the rich and giving to everyone else.

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Quote Originally Posted by Marx & Lennon
Quote Originally Posted by Anthony '58 II
Hey, if we're gonna have a war, let's have a war - complete with general mobilization and the full employment that brings, a universal military draft which all classes are subjected to, wage and price controls, windfall profits taxes on the Halliburtons of this world - the whole nine yards.

Let's see how "patriotic" the conservatives will be feeling then; but first you have to get the conservatives out of power, and stressing "rights" over responsibilities during a 4T simply won't get it done.

And don't kid yourselves: Total war is inevitable; the only thing in question is whether the "right" or the "left" gets to direct the war effort.
Do you have a death wish? Total war is not a euphamism to be thrown around lightly. While I agree that we need to reign-in the rich-and-powerful, setting the world on fire is no way to do it. :evil:


OK then, if the liberals can't stomach this approach, perhaps they should try a redux of 1930s-era isolationism: Yes, oppose the war in Iraq, etc., but at the same time throw the eco-nerds overboard and advocate aggressive domestic oil exploration (that means drilling, for those of you in Rio Linda, West Palm Beach and Staten Island) plus unbridled nuclear power - that way, the left would come across as manly, go-it-alone, "America First" types - and they would eat it up in southern Ohio, and maybe even southern Louisiana.

Of course it would probably take a generational coup within the Democratic Party to accomplish something like this, since such an agenda has "Nomad" written all over it - but hey, if you're going to strike out anyway, you might as well do it swinging for the fences instead of just standing in the batter's box and hoping for a walk, as the left is so obviously doing now.
But maybe if the putative Robin Hoods stopped trying to take from law-abiding citizens and give to criminals, take from men and give to women, take from believers and give to anti-believers, take from citizens and give to "undocumented" immigrants, and take from heterosexuals and give to homosexuals, they might have a lot more success in taking from the rich and giving to everyone else.

Don't blame me - I'm a Baby Buster!







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Sheikh al-Gore

Sheikh al-Gore travels the the home of the 9/11 terrorists and delivers a speech, in part sponsored by the family of Osama bin Laden, saying the U.S. government committed "terrible abuses" against Arabs after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, that Arabs had been "indiscriminately rounded up" and held in "unforgivable" conditions. Then adding that the Bush administration was playing into al-Qaida's hands by routinely blocking Saudi visa applications.

Any comments from the Gore is the future "Gray Champion" folks, here?







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SSDD -- speak out against the Cult of Bush and get called a traitor for your trouble.

Nothing new.







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Sounds like repairing bridges Bush has burned.
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