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Post#1 at 02-15-2005 11:35 AM by jonstewart [at Texas joined Feb 2005 #posts 58]
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Millennials and X'ers 10 years from now

Do any of you think that maybe another 10 to 20 years from now, Millennials are going to be the ones running the show, which means government and trendsetters and X'ers will still be getting the short end of the stick? In todays world, the oldest Generation X'ers are in their mid 40's and the youngest in their late 20's. And except for the entertainment industry and sports, there have been none that I know of who have contributed anything major. I don't ever expect to have an X'er president either







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Re: Millennials and X'ers 10 years from now

Quote Originally Posted by jonstewart
Do any of you think that maybe another 10 to 20 years from now, Millennials are going to be the ones running the show, which means government and trendsetters and X'ers will still be getting the short end of the stick? In todays world, the oldest Generation X'ers are in their mid 40's and the youngest in their late 20's. And except for the entertainment industry and sports, there have been none that I know of who have contributed anything major. I don't ever expect to have an X'er president either
Millies won't be running the show until another 30-40 years. They run the show during the Awakening, remember? You will get your turn to take to the helm during the High.
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Post#3 at 02-15-2005 01:23 PM by T.J. Seitz [at joined Jul 2004 #posts 94]
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Also aren't Millies supposed to be sent off to war to kill each other off during the crisis period....reducing their numbers significantly so that anyone who survives earns bragging rights for when they do come into power







Post#4 at 02-15-2005 04:58 PM by Jesse '77 [at Providence, RI, USA joined May 2003 #posts 153]
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Re: Millennials and X'ers 10 years from now

Quote Originally Posted by jonstewart
And except for the entertainment industry and sports, there have been none that I know of who have contributed anything major.
Well, what fields besides entertainment and sports do people usually make major contributions by their thirties or early forties? Major politicians are almost never that young, and CEOs usually aren't either (although Jeff Bezos, CEO of amazon.com, was born in 1964). Scientists and mathematicians sometimes acheive fame in their own community at a fairly young age, but the outside world generally doesn't hear much about them unless they are good popularizers, like string theorist Brian Greene (born 1963).

edit: and on the subject of politicians, Illinois senator Barack Obama is widely seen as a "rising star in the Democratic Party", and he was born in '61 so he just barely qualifies as an Xer according to S&H's definition.







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Re: Millennials and X'ers 10 years from now

Quote Originally Posted by jonstewart
Do any of you think that maybe another 10 to 20 years from now, Millennials are going to be the ones running the show, which means government and trendsetters and X'ers will still be getting the short end of the stick? In todays world, the oldest Generation X'ers are in their mid 40's and the youngest in their late 20's. And except for the entertainment industry and sports, there have been none that I know of who have contributed anything major. I don't ever expect to have an X'er president either
I have to disagree that Xers will never have a president. It is by now obvious that the Silent will never have a president, unless you count Carter as an honorary Silent.

If an Xer becomes a major war hero, you can bet that he will become president.
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Re: Millennials and X'ers 10 years from now

Quote Originally Posted by Shemsu Heru
Quote Originally Posted by jonstewart
Do any of you think that maybe another 10 to 20 years from now, Millennials are going to be the ones running the show, which means government and trendsetters and X'ers will still be getting the short end of the stick? In todays world, the oldest Generation X'ers are in their mid 40's and the youngest in their late 20's. And except for the entertainment industry and sports, there have been none that I know of who have contributed anything major. I don't ever expect to have an X'er president either
I have to disagree that Xers will never have a president. It is by now obvious that the Silent will never have a president, unless you count Carter as an honorary Silent.

If an Xer becomes a major war hero, you can bet that he will become president.
Colin Powell could have been that Silent president, in the tradition of Andrew Jackson and Theodore Roosevelt, but (some would say wisely) chose not to.







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Re: Millennials and X'ers 10 years from now

Quote Originally Posted by Shemsu Heru
Quote Originally Posted by jonstewart
Do any of you think that maybe another 10 to 20 years from now, Millennials are going to be the ones running the show, which means government and trendsetters and X'ers will still be getting the short end of the stick? In todays world, the oldest Generation X'ers are in their mid 40's and the youngest in their late 20's. And except for the entertainment industry and sports, there have been none that I know of who have contributed anything major. I don't ever expect to have an X'er president either
I have to disagree that Xers will never have a president. It is by now obvious that the Silent will never have a president, unless you count Carter as an honorary Silent.

If an Xer becomes a major war hero, you can bet that he will become president.
The Silent still have a chance, but it is slim.

And I agree 100% that chances are good for an Xer general to become President in the next first turning in the spirit of Eisenhower, Grant, and Washington.
Americans have had enough of glitz and roar . . Foreboding has deepened, and spiritual currents have darkened . . .
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Also the fact that there is a 100 percent chance that the

Millennials will have a President in the spirit of Thomas

Jefferson and John Kennedy at the end of the High and of

course, the Awakening. That is a Millennial foot soldier

veteran of the same crisis the Xer generals come from.







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Well it is ten years on and no, us millies are not running the show, nor in a massive war and xers I think are still getting the short end of the stick.
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Quote Originally Posted by Taramarie View Post
Well it is ten years on and no, us millies are not running the show, nor in a massive war and xers I think are still getting the short end of the stick.
However Millies are rising pretty fast. Some of you will be running the show along with us X in the very near future. Oldest Milles are now well into CEO territory especially in start ups. In government we see more and more Millie politicians.







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Quote Originally Posted by XYMOX_4AD_84 View Post
However Millies are rising pretty fast. Some of you will be running the show along with us X in the very near future. Oldest Milles are now well into CEO territory especially in start ups. In government we see more and more Millie politicians.

Oh good, that is good news. I figured we would forever be stuck behind boomers as they do not want to or cant retire.
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I wonder how the world will look with boomers out and xers/millies running the show?
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Quote Originally Posted by Taramarie View Post
I wonder how the world will look with boomers out and xers/millies running the show?
1950s (if without polio, homophobia, Joe McCarthy, Jim Crow, and Blood Alleys and with more sophisticated technology). The time will be bland, and women not in professional jobs will be back in the kitchen or with the children except to go to church. Pop culture will be tentative in any shows of potential rebellion, more whimsical than angry.

That might not be what I like, but at my age I can hardly guarantee that I (a Boomer) will have much influence.
The greatest evil is not now done in those sordid "dens of crime" (or) even in concentration camps and labour camps. In those we see its final result. But it is conceived and ordered... in clean, carpeted, warmed and well-lighted offices, by (those) who do not need to raise their voices. Hence, naturally enough, my symbol for Hell is something like the bureaucracy of a police state or the office of a thoroughly nasty business concern."


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Quote Originally Posted by pbrower2a View Post
1950s (if without polio, homophobia, Joe McCarthy, Jim Crow, and Blood Alleys and with more sophisticated technology). The time will be bland, and women not in professional jobs will be back in the kitchen or with the children except to go to church. Pop culture will be tentative in any shows of potential rebellion, more whimsical than angry.

That might not be what I like, but at my age I can hardly guarantee that I (a Boomer) will have much influence.

Ha i doubt very much that us women will be back in the kitchen. We are not GIs. There is a surge of female millies going for higher education and in the work force. I just cannot see us leaving that. We value family time, and may not work like the boomers with their obsession of work, but I cannot see us going to that extreme (1950s.)There will be some, but will it be more so than boomers or xers? That remains to be seen.
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Quote Originally Posted by pbrower2a View Post
1950s (if without polio, homophobia, Joe McCarthy, Jim Crow, and Blood Alleys and with more sophisticated technology). The time will be bland, and women not in professional jobs will be back in the kitchen or with the children except to go to church. Pop culture will be tentative in any shows of potential rebellion, more whimsical than angry.

That might not be what I like, but at my age I can hardly guarantee that I (a Boomer) will have much influence.
Here let me re-write that ....

1950s (if without polio, homophobia, Joe McCarthy, Jim Crow, and Blood Alleys and with more sophisticated technology). The time will be bland, and the designated stay-at-home-parent will qualify for extended paid family leave in order to hold down the fort. In cases of single working parents employers will be mandated to provide appropriate work-from-home accommodation and / or flexible work rules. Pop culture will be tentative in any shows of potential rebellion albeit infused by the effects of legal Canabis, more whimsical than angry.







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Quote Originally Posted by XYMOX_4AD_84 View Post
Here let me re-write that ....

1950s (if without polio, homophobia, Joe McCarthy, Jim Crow, and Blood Alleys and with more sophisticated technology). The time will be bland, and the designated stay-at-home-parent will qualify for extended paid family leave in order to hold down the fort. In cases of single working parents employers will be mandated to provide appropriate work-from-home accommodation and / or flexible work rules. Pop culture will be tentative in any shows of potential rebellion albeit infused by the effects of legal Canabis, more whimsical than angry.

yes that sounds better
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Quote Originally Posted by XYMOX_4AD_84 View Post
Here let me re-write that ....

1950s (if without polio, homophobia, Joe McCarthy, Jim Crow, and Blood Alleys and with more sophisticated technology). The time will be bland, and the designated stay-at-home-parent will qualify for extended paid family leave in order to hold down the fort. In cases of single working parents employers will be mandated to provide appropriate work-from-home accommodation and / or flexible work rules. Pop culture will be tentative in any shows of potential rebellion albeit infused by the effects of legal Canabis, more whimsical than angry.
Something along the lines of a designated stay-at-home parent may be needed if the country is to get it's birthrate above replacement level. Either that or the proportion of conservatively religious in the population will increase because of THEIR higher birthrates the way the proportion of Muslims in the population is increasing in Europe. Who has the kids determines who makes up the next generation.







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Quote Originally Posted by XYMOX_4AD_84 View Post
Here let me re-write that ....

1950s (if without polio, homophobia, Joe McCarthy, Jim Crow, and Blood Alleys and with more sophisticated technology). The time will be bland, and the designated stay-at-home-parent will qualify for extended paid family leave in order to hold down the fort. In cases of single working parents employers will be mandated to provide appropriate work-from-home accommodation and / or flexible work rules. Pop culture will be tentative in any shows of potential rebellion albeit infused by the effects of legal Canabis, more whimsical than angry.
Better. The technology will be more permissive, and the quest for profit will not so dominant as it has been.

I am tempted to add that houses will be less cluttered. 3-D printing will make status symbols so banal that people with any sense will not buy or display them. People will have fewer dead-tree editions of books; they will not need to own video or music storage. One good way of seeing what is going out of style is to look at the contents of stores with the word 'dollar' in them; in those stores one often finds the leftovers of fading mass culture and technology. To see what is really out of style, go to Goodwill.

Goodwill is not taking old TV sets.
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Quote Originally Posted by MordecaiK View Post
Something along the lines of a designated stay-at-home parent may be needed if the country is to get it's birthrate above replacement level. Either that or the proportion of conservatively religious in the population will increase because of THEIR higher birthrates the way the proportion of Muslims in the population is increasing in Europe. Who has the kids determines who makes up the next generation.
Culture and politics are not genetic, though.
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Quote Originally Posted by pbrower2a View Post
Goodwill is not taking old TV sets.
At my old thrift store job we still got CRT TVs donated to us despite signs saying that we don't take TVs, (assholes would leave the TVs outside the donation area when the store was closed), and we had trouble giving them away for free. Essentially the only people who want them are retro-gaming enthusiasts because old video game consoles tend to have lag issues on new TVs.
To recommend thrift to the poor is both grotesque and insulting. It is like advising a man who is starving to eat less.

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Quote Originally Posted by MordecaiK View Post
Something along the lines of a designated stay-at-home parent may be needed if the country is to get it's birthrate above replacement level. Either that or the proportion of conservatively religious in the population will increase because of THEIR higher birthrates the way the proportion of Muslims in the population is increasing in Europe. Who has the kids determines who makes up the next generation.
Only the gene pool. The kids will do what they will when it comes to their time to leave the nest.
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Quote Originally Posted by Taramarie View Post
I wonder how the world will look with boomers out and xers/millies running the show?

Like this:








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Quote Originally Posted by Jesse '77 View Post
Well, what fields besides entertainment and sports do people usually make major contributions by their thirties or early forties? Major politicians are almost never that young, and CEOs usually aren't either (although Jeff Bezos, CEO of amazon.com, was born in 1964). Scientists and mathematicians sometimes acheive fame in their own community at a fairly young age, but the outside world generally doesn't hear much about them unless they are good popularizers, like string theorist Brian Greene (born 1963).

edit: and on the subject of politicians, Illinois senator Barack Obama is widely seen as a "rising star in the Democratic Party", and he was born in '61 so he just barely qualifies as an Xer according to S&H's definition.
I like how this person called Obama's presidency 4 years early, before Katrina or the Great Recession.

good call, you.
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Quote Originally Posted by SZA View Post
I like how this person called Obama's presidency 4 years early, before Katrina or the Great Recession.

good call, you.
Barack Obama was the Keynote Speaker at the 2004 Democratic convention. Which put him on the spotlight nationally.







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In 2005 on this thread, people said the chance for a Silent president is over. But we have one running now, and if Hillary implodes he will be our only shot at a decent president in 2016.
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Keep the spirit alive,

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