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Thread: Millennials and X'ers 10 years from now - Page 2







Post#26 at 01-20-2016 08:33 PM by Taramarie [at Christchurch, New Zealand joined Jul 2015 #posts 2,762]
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Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Green View Post
In 2005 on this thread, people said the chance for a Silent president is over. But we have one running now, and if Hillary implodes he will be our only shot at a decent president in 2016.
They listened to Neil Howe too much.
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Post#27 at 01-20-2016 08:35 PM by Taramarie [at Christchurch, New Zealand joined Jul 2015 #posts 2,762]
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Quote Originally Posted by Kinser79 View Post
Like this:

LMAO! love it!
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Post#28 at 01-21-2016 12:53 AM by Kinser79 [at joined Jun 2012 #posts 2,897]
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Quote Originally Posted by Taramarie View Post
They listened to Neil Howe too much.
Not really. Having a President elected in their late 60s is rare unless they are an incumbent, 55 seems to be the average, and late 40s is considered young (Obama is considered to be pretty young by Presidential standards he was 47 at his inauguration, only Bill Clinton [46] and JFK [43] were younger, and TR [42] but he was VP and William McKinley was assassinated). Only Ronald Reagan was 69 when he was inaugurated. I think Bernie Sanders may manage to beat him, he'll be 74.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._States_by_age

So it isn't inconceivable, just would be incredibly rare if Sanders is inaugurated at age 74 and he'll probably hold the record for being oldest President at Inauguration for a really long time.







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Quote Originally Posted by Kinser79 View Post
Not really. Having a President elected in their late 60s is rare unless they are an incumbent, 55 seems to be the average, and late 40s is considered young (Obama is considered to be pretty young by Presidential standards he was 47 at his inauguration, only Bill Clinton [46] and JFK [43] were younger, and TR [42] but he was VP and William McKinley was assassinated). Only Ronald Reagan was 69 when he was inaugurated. I think Bernie Sanders may manage to beat him, he'll be 74.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._States_by_age

So it isn't inconceivable, just would be incredibly rare if Sanders is inaugurated at age 74 and he'll probably hold the record for being oldest President at Inauguration for a really long time.

Oh ok that is interesting. It shall be very interesting if he becomes president especially given those statistics say he would be a rarity.
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Post#30 at 01-21-2016 12:58 AM by Taramarie [at Christchurch, New Zealand joined Jul 2015 #posts 2,762]
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I hear Hillary Clinton is attacking him saying that he is too old to be president.
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Quote Originally Posted by Taramarie View Post
Oh ok that is interesting. It shall be very interesting if he becomes president especially given those statistics say he would be a rarity.
Well myself I think it is Bernie or Bust really. It seems to me that it is conceivable that in a mega-unraveling (like this Saeculum) it is possible for two grey champions to emerge. As such it would seem that Sanders would represent the Federalist/Whig/Progressive/New Deal line (which has existed in the US since 1789) and Trump the Jefferson/Jackson/Protectionist/Isolationist line (which has also existed since 1789).

Donald Trump too would be a rarity, he would be 69 (like Reagan) on inauguration should he be elected. So he would match but not beat Reagan for being Oldest President Inaugurated.







Post#32 at 01-21-2016 09:27 AM by Earl and Mooch [at Delaware - we pave paradise and put up parking lots joined Sep 2002 #posts 2,106]
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Quote Originally Posted by Taramarie View Post
I hear Hillary Clinton is attacking him saying that he is too old to be president.

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Post#33 at 01-21-2016 01:03 PM by Kinser79 [at joined Jun 2012 #posts 2,897]
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Quote Originally Posted by Taramarie View Post
I hear Hillary Clinton is attacking him saying that he is too old to be president.
I've not heard this and I'm paying attention to HRC (mostly cause I'm apparently a Berniebot according to some posters), but if she is that shows desperation more than anything else. She's 68 and by that logic she's also too old to be President.







Post#34 at 01-21-2016 01:31 PM by Taramarie [at Christchurch, New Zealand joined Jul 2015 #posts 2,762]
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Quote Originally Posted by Kinser79 View Post
I've not heard this and I'm paying attention to HRC (mostly cause I'm apparently a Berniebot according to some posters), but if she is that shows desperation more than anything else. She's 68 and by that logic she's also too old to be President.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...dical-records/ i looked up a link to see if it matches what other people have been saying and i think this is what they were talking about.
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Quote Originally Posted by Taramarie View Post
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...dical-records/ i looked up a link to see if it matches what other people have been saying and i think this is what they were talking about.
Yep. I think it's hilarious. The man is perpetually moving. I've seen men half his age not have his stamina. Hillary on the other hand has had blood clots in her brain and took months to recover from what is said to be a mild concussion.

That said, I liked what Bernie's Campaign Manager said:

“They are insinuating Bernie is too old and unhealthy to be our next president,” Weaver said. “Let me be very clear with you: Bernie is in excellent health. But this personal attack is another example of sickness in our democracy when it is so easy for millionaires and billionaires to buy up candidates and elections.”







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It does make you think that maybe the cycles have slowed down a bit. Have we delayed the fourth turning?
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Post#37 at 01-22-2016 09:04 PM by Kinser79 [at joined Jun 2012 #posts 2,897]
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Quote Originally Posted by Gianthogweed View Post
It does make you think that maybe the cycles have slowed down a bit. Have we delayed the fourth turning?
Hard to say. If we review the past saeculum one would say that the 1T and 2T were somewhat abbreviated being 17ish years in duration each, but the 3T is reputed to be quite long (1980ish-2005ish) at 25ish years.

At this juncture I would only say that the regeneracy has been delayed.







Post#38 at 01-22-2016 10:38 PM by Odin [at Moorhead, MN, USA joined Sep 2006 #posts 14,442]
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Quote Originally Posted by Kinser79 View Post
Hard to say. If we review the past saeculum one would say that the 1T and 2T were somewhat abbreviated being 17ish years in duration each, but the 3T is reputed to be quite long (1980ish-2005ish) at 25ish years.

At this juncture I would only say that the regeneracy has been delayed.
I think the reason for this is that economic conditions made it harder for Xers and Millennials to become fully independent adults as early as the Silents and Boomers did, and this has caused the length of the Childhood phase of life to increase back to around 21-22.
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Post#39 at 01-22-2016 11:18 PM by Chas'88 [at In between Pennsylvania & Pennsyltucky joined Nov 2008 #posts 9,432]
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Quote Originally Posted by Odin View Post
I think the reason for this is that economic conditions made it harder for Xers and Millennials to become fully independent adults as early as the Silents and Boomers did, and this has caused the length of the Childhood phase of life to increase back to around 21-22.
Add in the smaller number of Silents and early Boomers as a factor as well, especially in comparison to late Boomers & Jonesers.

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Post#40 at 01-22-2016 11:22 PM by Chas'88 [at In between Pennsylvania & Pennsyltucky joined Nov 2008 #posts 9,432]
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Quote Originally Posted by Taramarie View Post
Well it is ten years on and no, us millies are not running the show, nor in a massive war and xers I think are still getting the short end of the stick.
With a Silent threatening to break the ban on his Generation from the White House after the first Gen X president.
"There have always been people who say: "The war will be over someday." I say there's no guarantee the war will ever be over. Naturally a brief intermission is conceivable. Maybe the war needs a breather, a war can even break its neck, so to speak. But the kings and emperors, not to mention the pope, will always come to its help in adversity. ON the whole, I'd say this war has very little to worry about, it'll live to a ripe old age."







Post#41 at 01-23-2016 12:40 AM by Odin [at Moorhead, MN, USA joined Sep 2006 #posts 14,442]
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Quote Originally Posted by Chas'88 View Post
With a Silent threatening to break the ban on his Generation from the White House after the first Gen X president.
Well, he was born in 1941, so he's a War Baby cusper, and in his behavior he seems more Prophet than Artist.
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