Originally Posted by The Wonkette

Good grief! What on earth was I posting back then!

Originally Posted by The Wonkette
Perhaps Generations might be analogous to the Torah, and 13th Gen corresponds to the Haftorah. Millennials Rising is the Mishnah and Fourth Turning is the Talmud.

Originally Posted by radind

Originally Posted by The Wonkette
Perhaps Generations might be analogous to the Torah, and 13th Gen corresponds to the Haftorah. Millennials Rising is the Mishnah and Fourth Turning is the Talmud.

I know. Please don't remind me. I must have been back from a wine-tasting tour! Good grief!

Virgil seemed to have a good take on it. The Generations with all its begats is the Old Testament, and T4T is the New with its revelation of a new world! But, none of us take these as holy books, for sure. More often we tend more to rip them up and reassemble them in ways that make sense to us. And some seek more data for verification and refinement, something which Biblical scholars don't do as much.

Originally Posted by MordecaiK

I found S&H's book by accident in an airport bookstore on the way to Australia in 1991.

Ah so you have been there. What area and did you live there or just visit? What did you get out of reading their books?

Originally Posted by The Wonkette

I know. Please don't remind me. I must have been back from a wine-tasting tour! Good grief!

It gets worse!! The older I get, the more I'd like to sit my younger self down and have a serious talk with him! Remember Red's parole hearing scene in Shawshank Redemption? Yeah, that's me too.

I found Generations in the library while looking for another book by the same name. Then I found 13th Gen in a bookstore. Then I found The Fourth Turning in the library, and I kept checking it out so much that I finally gave in and bought it. I got Millennials Rising from the library when it came out but I wasn't as impressed by it as I was the others.

Originally Posted by Earl and Mooch

I found Generations in the library while looking for another book by the same name. Then I found 13th Gen in a bookstore. Then I found The Fourth Turning in the library, and I kept checking it out so much that I finally gave in and bought it. I got Millennials Rising from the library when it came out but I wasn't as impressed by it as I was the others.

Why is that?

Can I ask why you've resurrected this thread from years ago? There have been a few resurrected threads in the past day or so and I'm not sure why.

Originally Posted by annla899

Can I ask why you've resurrected this thread from years ago? There have been a few resurrected threads in the past day or so and I'm not sure why.

I have to ask, why not? It is there to be answered....i was not here at that time to answer them. I find them interesting questions....so what is the issue of answering them?

If some do not like me answering questions that i was not here to answer when the thread was created....just ignore thanks. I grow tired of people who question my motives. I should not have to explain myself.

Maybe just start a new thread? I completely understand that there's no motive except just looking at the archives and responding. It's just disconcerting.

For the record, I heard about it while grabbing dinner in a bar in the mid-1990s and a one-off conversation with someone. It was intriguing and I bought one of the books.

Originally Posted by annla899

Maybe just start a new thread? I completely understand that there's no motive except just looking at the archives and responding. It's just disconcerting.

For the record, I heard about it while grabbing dinner in a bar in the mid-1990s and a one-off conversation with someone. It was intriguing and I bought one of the books.

I do not need to start a new thread to answer something that has already been asked. I do not know why it bothers people. But if it does, ignore.

Originally Posted by Taramarie

I do not need to start a new thread to answer something that has already been asked. I do not know why it bothers people. But if it does, ignore.

I happen to agree with Taramarie -- no reason why not to continue a long-dormant discussion if it is still topical.

Originally Posted by Taramarie

Why is that?

It didn't seem to strike a chord the way the other books did; it didn't seem as geniune an assessment.

Originally Posted by Earl and Mooch

It didn't seem to strike a chord the way the other books did; it didn't seem as geniune an assessment.

So perhaps they were trying so hard to turn millennials into the next gis that their idealism got in the way of what we are really like?

Taramarie, I just asked a question. It just seemed like a lot of really old threads got resurrected all of a sudden. I'm sorry it came off in an insulting way. My mistake. (And I am not being sarcastic. It's meant genuinely. I appreciate your presence on the forum a great deal.)

Originally Posted by annla899

Taramarie, I just asked a question. It just seemed like a lot of really old threads got resurrected all of a sudden. I'm sorry it came off in an insulting way. My mistake. (And I am not being sarcastic. It's meant genuinely. I appreciate your presence on the forum a great deal.)

Was not insulting it is just people seem upset when a thread is resurrected and i just snapped as i felt i should not explain why i post on threads i find interesting. Apologies for that.

Originally Posted by Taramarie

Was not insulting it is just people seem upset when a thread is resurrected and i just snapped as i felt i should not explain why i post on threads i find interesting. Apologies for that.

Yeah, When I joined I was also one of those thread necromancers, LOL!

Originally Posted by Odin

Yeah, When I joined I was also one of those thread necromancers, LOL!

Yeah we are not around to post on them and have something to add. It is interesting ae! I did not have much time while working and studying so i now have the time when i have a day off work while working on my concept art portfolio.

Generations -- the first, whence all else is derived.

More precisely, a magazine article that introduced the theory while touting the book. It seemed to make sense of history in ways I had never expected.

Definitely The Fourth Turning. My AP US History teacher first mentioned the book in the beginning of the course, and sometimes explains the "turnings" in a subtle way throughout our history lessons. He got me into reading the book, even though part of this came from reading about the theory on the Internet. I like learning about generations and their place in history, and The Fourth Turning sparked that interest even more.

I first heard about The Fourth Turning from George Ure's website Urban Survival sometime in the late '90s. I read it at the time, and then put it on the mental back burner for a decade or more. I don't recall what jogged my memory back around a year ago, but I think it had to do with Peter Truncheons articles that got wide coverage a couple years ago. I did a google search, and now here I am. I enjoy the many postings here, but in particular the postings of the faction best expressed by Teacher/Eric/Mike/Power. As for Crazy George; after the meltdown in '08 when gold collapsed in unison with everything except cash, I pretty much lost interest and put him in the category of a broken clock.

Generations

U.S. News and World Report did an article when the book came out, called "History's Cycle Ride." I remember that it described Idealists growing up with more relaxed parenting, Reactives as underprotected, Civics growing up with less relaxed parenting and Adaptives as overprotected. It also assigned a war to each generation (which is a theme that I do not find so much in the books).

Originally Posted by Tim Walker '56

Came across Generations while browsing in the public library.

-I'd heard about it when it first came out, but never got around to it. I was looking through a library in April of 2006 when I found it. I like looking at old predictions. They're usally a hoot. But S&H didn't make grandiose claims about their theory ("This book won't tell you which party will win the election of 2020", or words to that effect), but their analysis of how different turnings might handle the same event (a nuke in NYC, IIRC) was interesting.

Did my farewell post appear?