Originally Posted by Earl and Mooch

Before gas prices get any higher . . .

http://www.gtweekly.com/columns/the-...an-road-trip-1

I'm not sure if this is scary... or just sad. Sad, like riding the Circle Line around Manhattan, as the narrator describes the bustling waterfront that once was... and is now all gone.

According to informed sources, the most reliable sources in the press are websites like nexmax, worldnetdaily, the Epochtimes, washingtontimes, the eurasian politician and the global politician, newprophecy, and geo-strat. Informed sources indicate that chinese have developed thousands of long-range ICBMs all targeted at america. According to these sources the chinese have formed strategic alliances with india, pakistan, vietnam, the phillipines and both koreas as well as secret agreements with taiwan and japan to lure america into a manufactured conflict in order for russia and china to initiate a nuclear bombardment of america followed by ground invasion with the objective of population extermination for lebensraum. The chinese communist party secretly admire hideki tojo and have formed secret connections with japanese neo-emperor worshippers in order to reform the greater east asia co-prosperity sphere, this time under chinese leadership. What americans have not understood is that communism is total evil and total dominance of mind; the soviet union was far move evil than the fascist and nazis, even in the 1940's the USSR was primary instigator of the war by helping hitler to come to power in 1933 followed by allowing germany to invade, the reason they did so was provide a DISTRATION to allow the USSR to LAUNCH AN LAND-SEA and AIR INVASION OF THE ENTIRE WORLD IN ORDER TO COMMUNIZE THE ENTIRE PLANET. WHEN the soviet entered the war against japan in the final days of the war they were EXTREMLY CAREFUL to HIDE the existance of their secret fleets left over from the late 1930's, dozen of cave bases were constructed which housed DOZENS of AIRCRAFT CARRIERS, BATTLESHIPS, and tens of thousands of AMPHIBIOUS VESSELS.

THOSE WHO DENY, these facts have not analyzed history and the communist desire to invade the US and achieve their long desired goal of shooting and torturing american women and children for sport. In russia there are dozens of training camps in which the russian soldiers have repeatedley expressed the desire that they hope to rape and murder innocent girls, especially children when when they invade the US. The only way to prevent this horrid future from coming to pass by launching full scale nuclear strike against eurasian forces, we must also nuke the concentration of millions of russian and chinese troops, tens of thousands of tanks and thousands of IRBMs that have been massed on the mexican side of the border. God has allowed these evil events to occur because he plans to judge america because of gay marriage. I AM NOT THE MADMAN, YOU ARE THE MADMEN, WE GOTTA STOP THE EVIL COMMIES, WE GOT TO TO STOP THEM, WE GOT TO STOP THEM, THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR MOST OF THE MISSING CHILDREN OF THE PAST 2 DECADES, Russians have kidnapped hundreds of thousands of american children in order to experiment on biological weapons. I"M NOT THE MADMAN, I'M NOT THE MADMAN, YOU ARE BLIND TO THE REALIZATIONT THAT THE KNOWLEGDE IN INDISPUTABLE, THE KNOWLEDGE IS INDISPUTABLE.

Originally Posted by Cynic Hero '86

According to informed sources, the most reliable sources in the press are websites like nexmax, worldnetdaily, the Epochtimes, washingtontimes, the eurasian politician and the global politician, newprophecy, and geo-strat. Informed sources indicate that chinese have developed thousands of long-range ICBMs all targeted at america. According to these sources the chinese have formed strategic alliances with india, pakistan, vietnam, the phillipines and both koreas as well as secret agreements with taiwan and japan to lure america into a manufactured conflict in order for russia and china to initiate a nuclear bombardment of america followed by ground invasion with the objective of population extermination for lebensraum. The chinese communist party secretly admire hideki tojo and have formed secret connections with japanese neo-emperor worshippers in order to reform the greater east asia co-prosperity sphere, this time under chinese leadership. What americans have not understood is that communism is total evil and total dominance of mind; the soviet union was far move evil than the fascist and nazis, even in the 1940's the USSR was primary instigator of the war by helping hitler to come to power in 1933 followed by allowing germany to invade, the reason they did so was provide a DISTRATION to allow the USSR to LAUNCH AN LAND-SEA and AIR INVASION OF THE ENTIRE WORLD IN ORDER TO COMMUNIZE THE ENTIRE PLANET. WHEN the soviet entered the war against japan in the final days of the war they were EXTREMLY CAREFUL to HIDE the existance of their secret fleets left over from the late 1930's, dozen of cave bases were constructed which housed DOZENS of AIRCRAFT CARRIERS, BATTLESHIPS, and tens of thousands of AMPHIBIOUS VESSELS.

THOSE WHO DENY, these facts have not analyzed history and the communist desire to invade the US and achieve their long desired goal of shooting and torturing american women and children for sport. In russia there are dozens of training camps in which the russian soldiers have repeatedley expressed the desire that they hope to rape and murder innocent girls, especially children when when they invade the US. The only way to prevent this horrid future from coming to pass by launching full scale nuclear strike against eurasian forces, we must also nuke the concentration of millions of russian and chinese troops, tens of thousands of tanks and thousands of IRBMs that have been massed on the mexican side of the border. God has allowed these evil events to occur because he plans to judge america because of gay marriage. I AM NOT THE MADMAN, YOU ARE THE MADMEN, WE GOTTA STOP THE EVIL COMMIES, WE GOT TO TO STOP THEM, WE GOT TO STOP THEM, THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR MOST OF THE MISSING CHILDREN OF THE PAST 2 DECADES, Russians have kidnapped hundreds of thousands of american children in order to experiment on biological weapons. I"M NOT THE MADMAN, I'M NOT THE MADMAN, YOU ARE BLIND TO THE REALIZATIONT THAT THE KNOWLEGDE IN INDISPUTABLE, THE KNOWLEDGE IS INDISPUTABLE.

Well, you've sold me. And to think I was worried that you'd gone off the deep end!

OK. If you're going to bring God and His methods into the mix for judging cities and nations - America specifically for gay marriage amongst its many other "crimes" against God- then we must look at how He has done so in the past - via as outlined in the Bible.

In the Bible, God clearly states that He will "bless those that bless you [Israel] and will curse those that curse you [Israel]". He uses other nations coming against Israel as a means of judging Israel as a people, and then, in turn, uses the invasion from other nations as the measuring stick for which to judge them. That is clearly shown all through the old testament. Is it still happening today? I don't know. But, look at the situation that unfolded with Hurricane Katrina. Most Americans don't know that within HOURS of about 1 Million Israelis being forced to leave their homes from the West Bank and "scattered" to other parts of the nation, or made to live in temporary housing - as part of the US led negotiated "peace talks" - Hurricane Katrina slammed into New Orleans causing approx 1 million residents to be homeless and either "scattered" throughout the US, or forced to live in temporary housing. Today, those same Jews are still living in temporary housing, and the same can still be said for the residents of New Orleans. Interesting Coincidence? Or non-related? I suppose one will have to reach that determination on their own.

That being said, and if you are going to use God and His methods and means for bringing judgment upon America, then you cannot leave out the measuring stick that He clearly outlines for his reason for doing so. Quite plainly, America will recieve judgment as a nation when we no longer support Israel as a nation. Some fear that day will never happen. I fear that day is fast approaching.

Now, what are the methods God uses to impose judgment upon a city or nation? God uses fire, flooding, pestilences, wild animals, and invading armies from other nations. Those nations that you refer to in your posting - Look at what has been happening in their nations over the recent months.

Now, don't ignore what God does say that Russia and China are getting set to do. Along with other set nations in the middle east, they are aligning together to invade Israel and threaten to annihilate this nation, of which they will not succeed and will suffer GREAT loss. Judging from what I've been reading about stuff going on over there, I think that's going to happen sooner than China invading us. What motive would they have for invading the US? Spread communism? Pahleese, the 1st George Bush - as Ambassador - helped the Chinese create and write their one-child population control policy and their are methods in the works now for imposing much of the same in this country. Judging from what I've read about our historical relations with China, we have a pretty good relationship with them, DESPITE their communist society. I think we're more aligned with them than most Americans think. Iran is another story, though.

But, you are right in your knowledge of Russia's involvement in WWII. There were a lot of interesting "characters" pulling the strings behind WWII and, unfortunately, their "decendents" are still pulling some of the same strings.

But, if you're going to bring God and his methods of judgment on the scene, then you can't leave out what He clearly says will be his measure and methods for doing so.

Bria

I don't like blaming Katrina on God. It's not God's fault, not in my book.

Originally Posted by Cynic Hero '86

I AM NOT THE MADMAN, YOU ARE THE MADMEN

I am the Walrus.

Back on topic. This one is from npr.org.

Morning Edition, June 17, 2008 · Along the rocky California cliffs of Highway 1, about 70 winding miles south of Monterey, is the town of Gorda. It's not much of a town — one restaurant, a hotel, a number of tourists looking at the ocean view — and a gas station. All of the locals can tell you: "Gorda" is Spanish for "really high gas prices."

Catherine Smith pulls in, along with the rest of her Harley-Davidson motorcycle group. She starts to fill her gas tank, then gets a look at the price.

"Are you serious? That's ridiculous!"

According to AAA spokeswoman Rolayne Fairclough, California has the highest gas prices in the nation at $4.60, about 50 cents more than the national average. She says the free market is what keeps gasoline prices competitive, so Gorda's remoteness does translate into even higher prices.

In fact, gas in Gorda hit $5 just a couple of months ago and went to $6 last week. And both here and across the country, Fairclough says, prices may jump more over the next month or two.

"We know that prices of gasoline typically rise higher in the summer months, when you have the demand for more driving. We just started at a higher level this year," she says.

Originally Posted by The Wonkette

Back on topic. This one is from npr.org.

Higher than needed petrol and diesel prices are a result of unneeded taxes, that is certainly the case in Australia and Britain which have higher fuel taxes than Britain and much worse road systems. Australia for example does not have a nationwide superhighway system connecting big urban areas or it's major cities have the sort of freeway systems comparable us urban areas have.

Corner Station as of today:

Reg $4.69
Mid $4.81
Pre $4.93

And in my general region I have seen regular recently as low as $4.43 and as high as $4.77.

The bad news first: I filled up $4.479 per gallon Thursday evening... total cost, $42 and change.

The good news: Last week, midgrade was also $4.479 at the neighborhood pump. Which means this is the first week in months that gas hasn't gone up a dime or more.

Perhaps we've reached a plateau of sorts for the time being. I hope so. More than the rising price of gasoline, I fear a sudden shift into panic mode on the part of the motoring public.

I have already written off this year as a total loss.

I take it back. "My" Detroit Red Wings won the Stanley Cup, "my" Detroit Pistons went far in the NBA Playoffs, and "my" Detroit Tigers are beginning to play well. All on cable TV for me, though.

That's nothing but luck.

Gas prices may be flat in Vancouver Washington, but they are still rising in my neighborhood in South Arlington/West Alexandria. Last week, I could fill up for about $4.05-$4.09. Now, the range seems to be $4.11 - $4.19.

Originally Posted by Flyingeye76

Yowzers! I hear people are crossing the Mexican border just for gas because its cheaper.

"Give us your poor, tired, desitute, and we'll give you our high gas consuming SUV's"!

Are these the same people who support a border fence?

We are hovering between $3.99 and $4.09 in southeastern Wisconsin.

Does this qualify as cheap gas prices? Kroger, the big supermarket chain, has been offering Gift Cards that are good through the end of July, and provide a 10% premium to the purchase price of $300, $600 or $1,200. After you add-in the extra $30, $60 or $120, you get an effective 9% discount ... and the cards work at the Kroger gas pumps.

Right now, the prices are $3.859, 3.959 and 4.059, so the discount effectively gets you gas at $3.51, 3.60, and 3.69. Obviously, we're buying Gift Cards.

On the evening news it mentioned that israelis are planning to attack iran before the inaugeration of the next president. The elite knows that they must initiate the third world war without the consent of the american people because the people would never support it. The elite has never allowed for popular opinion to get in the way of these goals. The KGB in moscow also welcome an attack on iran because it allows them to initiate their plan for worldwide cleasing of "undesirables" while their enemies are still hamstrung by incompetent leadership. The last thing putin wants is for war to occur after an obama or even a mccain electoral victory, because that would mean taking on a newly competent america, as well as eliminating russian diplomatic advantage as american unpopularity in the world is washed away by the arrival of a new administration. It is sad that evil seems poised to triumph at all fronts, Farewell modern civilization, there is a high chance that much of the world will no longer exist within the next year.

Gas in the La Mesa/El Cahon area in San Diego County ranges from $4.45 to $4.65 in the gas stations that I've seen. Yikes.

I'm renting a Chevy Aveo which gets decent gas mileage, but not like my beloved Prius at home.

Originally Posted by The Wonkette

Gas in the La Mesa/El Cahon area in San Diego County ranges from $4.45 to $4.65 in the gas stations that I've seen. Yikes.

I'm renting a Chevy Aveo which gets decent gas mileage, but not like my beloved Prius at home.

Welcome to Cal-eee-fohrn-ya!

Originally Posted by Finch

I am the Walrus.

The Walrus was Paul.

Originally Posted by Zarathustra

Welcome to Cal-eee-fohrn-ya!

Yeah, I'm coming down to Sacramento next week... it'll cost approximately $210 to make the trip at 26 mpg and $4.50 per gallon. And that's just for the gasoline, not including a planned sleepover in Medford, OR. I for one am glad my brother no longer lives in Los Angeles.

Originally Posted by Zarathustra

The Walrus was Paul.

I always thought it was John Lennon ("I went to a Garden Party... everyone was there... Yoko brought her Walrus... there was magic in the air...")

Originally Posted by Roadbldr '59

I always thought it was John Lennon ("I went to a Garden Party... everyone was there... Yoko brought her Walrus... there was magic in the air...")

Who knows? Perhaps. The dudes were way into drugs at the time. But John and Paul wrote this together for the White Album:

The Glass Onion

I told you about strawberry fields
You know the place where nothing is real
Well here's another place you can go
Where everything flows
Looking through the bent backed tulips
To see how the other half live
Looking through a glass onion

I told you about the walrus and me, man
You know that we're as close as can be, man
Well here's another clue for you all
The walrus was Paul [emphasis added]
Standing on the cast iron shore, yeah
Lady Madonna trying to make ends meet, yeah
Looking through a glass onion

Oh yeah
Oh yeah
Oh yeah
Looking through a glass onion

I told you about the fool on the hill
I tell you man he living there still
Well here's another place you can be
Listen to me
Fixing a hole in the ocean
Trying to make a dove-tail joint, yeah
Looking through a glass onion

There is much clamor now for the government to step in when it comes to high gas prices, but is there really that much they can do? Maybe it's as futile as asking them to control the weather. Just yesterday a report came out that predicted that in two years the cost of gas could reach $7/gal, making today seem like the "good old days". The report also predicted that as many as ten million cars could be off the road by 2012, mainly because their owners could no longer afford the price tag. Maybe this time our love affair with the auto may be on its last legs. If this pans out, then car-dependent suburbs will have to reinvent themselves in order to remain viable.

In Albuquerque: Highland Chevron, unleaded regular, $3.959 per gallon, Diamond Shamrock in the next block, $3.799. If this keeps up, the major gas station chains (or the little guy who holds the franchise) will be hurting.

The oil industry and the auto industry lobbied heavily to drive the railroads into ruin. With inadequate revenues, the railroads could no longer maintain the railroads. Some railroads have fared well, typically in the Southwest where one has megalopolises separated by huge expanses of desert.

Resuscitation of the rails looks like a reasonable response to the reality of the disappearance of cheap petroleum. Such will take huge purchases of steel (great for one ailing industry!) and perhaps concrete (for roadbeds and perhaps overpasses). That sounds like a 4T solution -- something unlikely until about 2010.

The technology for fast trains isn't new; it already exists in Europe. Acela is profitable, and I can imagine corridors (the Far West and the Great Lakes region) where such trains will work. When it's easy to take a train across country and airline fares are prohibitive, then the rails can even get people off the highway.

In the meantime -- intercity buses may be all that is left for the middle class in America for long-distance travel should gasoline hit $7 or so as the Propaganda Channel predicts with apparent glee.

Has anyone noticed that Big Oil advertises more heavily on FoX than seemingly anywhere else? It causes me to wonder how independent the Propaganda Channel is from its advertisers.