Originally Posted by justmom

I didn't really have a place to put this, but, thought the 2 comments side
by side were interesting.

The New York Observer

Gore?s TV War: He Lobs Salvo At Fox News
by Josh Benson

Among the many problems facing the Democratic Party, according to former Vice President Al Gore, is the state of the American media.

"The media is kind of weird these days on politics, and there are some major institutional voices that are, truthfully speaking, part and parcel of the Republican Party," said Mr. Gore in an interview with The Observer. "Fox News Network, The Washington Times, Rush Limbaugh?there?s a bunch of them, and some of them are financed by wealthy ultra-conservative billionaires who make political deals with Republican administrations and the rest of the media ?. Most of the media [has] been slow to recognize the pervasive impact of this fifth column in their ranks?that is, day after day, injecting the daily Republican talking points into the definition of what?s objective as stated by the news media as a whole."

Perhaps it's because the Jews control everything? [sarcasm]
In Bin Laden's "Letter to America" he laments the same as Al. Sort of.

(ii) You are the nation that permits Usury, which has been forbidden by all the religions. Yet you build your economy and investments on Usury. As a result of this, in all its different forms and guises, the Jews have taken control of your economy, through which they have then taken control of your media, and now control all aspects of your life making you their servants and achieving their aims at your expense; precisely what Benjamin Franklin warned you against.

Ah, well, I guess it's just all about perception.

Bibi makes 3: A Jewish media conspiracy (with real Jews):

http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/pa...ubContrassID=0


Netanyahu and his supporters went on to complain about his treatment in the media. "I am honestly very worried by the poll results," said Likud MK Yuval Steinitz. He quickly went on the offensive, however, blaming the Israeli media and pollsters for "conspiring" to bury Netanyahu, a former prime minister who led Sharon in polls only a few months ago. Shai Bazak and Ofir Akonis, who are vying for places on the Likud?s Knesset list, said in interviews Wednesday that the media was discriminating against Netanyahu, and was widely reporting every failed step of Netanyahu?s campaign.




23 Kislev 5763 number of Ha'aretz

Netanyahu and supporters slam media, say will beat polls

By Yossi Verter, Ha'aretz Correspondent, and Ha'aretz Service

Originally Posted by TrollKing

Originally Posted by Chris '68

Click and find wisdom, my fellow Nomad:

oh, brother.

according the definition of treason we're working with here, a traitor is one who "knowingly inflict[s] damage on their own society". let's see.... they apparently (according to the article you posted the link to):

went to iraq....

"said the Bush administration should give weapons inspections a chance to work before taking any military action"....

"suggested that the sanctions..... led to the starvation and malnutrition of Iraqi children, and the death of 50,000 annually"....

"said that U.S. and British airplanes have been bombing illegitimate targets"....

"said that he thought 'the president would mislead the American people' in order to justify action on Iraq"....


which part of that is known to inflict damage to our society? it may inflict "damage" (in the metaphorical sense) to the administration's policy, but that's part and parcel of politics. no, i'm talking about real damage, on par with espionage or sabotage, to our society. i think it's a bit overzealous to claim that is what happened here.


TK

I'm not sure which I find more annoying-- the true-to-Silent-form backpedaling of the good Congressman from West Seattle, or the 'Pub from Texas slandering Vietnam-vet McDermott as "un-American" for daring to disagree with his precious right wing.

Regarding McDermott, I'm glad someone has the balls to take the Bush Administration to task on their Iraq policy, which I still maintain smacks of a diversion from our failure to capture or kill Osama bin Laden. But if you are going to do so, dammit Jim be a man and stand by your principles. His in-the-end cowering before the Great Elephant makes me just plain sick, and substantially less likely to vote for Mr. McDermott should I ever return to Zip Code 98136.

As for Rep. Johnson, well shit...IMHO it would behoove conservatives who support the Bush Administration wholeheartedly to play Devil's Advocate with the Administration periodically. This, in order to keep them honest, since the President is human too and humans have this nagging tendency to mislead others in the process of getting their way.

Originally Posted by TrollKing

Originally Posted by Chris '68

Click and find wisdom, my fellow Nomad:

oh, brother.

according the definition of treason we're working with here, a traitor is one who "knowingly inflict[s] damage on their own society". let's see.... they apparently (according to the article you posted the link to):

went to iraq....

"said the Bush administration should give weapons inspections a chance to work before taking any military action"....

"suggested that the sanctions..... led to the starvation and malnutrition of Iraqi children, and the death of 50,000 annually"....

"said that U.S. and British airplanes have been bombing illegitimate targets"....

"said that he thought 'the president would mislead the American people' in order to justify action on Iraq"....


which part of that is known to inflict damage to our society? it may inflict "damage" (in the metaphorical sense) to the administration's policy, but that's part and parcel of politics. no, i'm talking about real damage, on par with espionage or sabotage, to our society. i think it's a bit overzealous to claim that is what happened here.


TK

I'm not sure which I find more annoying-- the true-to-Silent-form backpedaling of the good Congressman from West Seattle, or the 'Pub from Texas slandering Vietnam-vet McDermott as "un-American" for daring to disagree with his precious right wing.

Regarding McDermott, I'm glad someone has the balls to take the Bush Administration to task on their Iraq policy, which I still maintain smacks of a diversion from our failure to capture or kill Osama bin Laden. But if you are going to do so, dammit Jim be a man and stand by your principles. His in-the-end cowering before the Great Elephant makes me just plain sick, and substantially less likely to vote for Mr. McDermott should I ever return to Zip Code 98136.

As for Rep. Johnson, well shit...IMHO it would behoove conservatives who support the Bush Administration wholeheartedly to play Devil's Advocate with the Administration periodically. This, in order to keep them honest, since the President is human too and humans have this nagging tendency to mislead others in the process of getting their way.

Originally Posted by TrollKing

Originally Posted by Chris '68

Click and find wisdom, my fellow Nomad:

oh, brother.

according the definition of treason we're working with here, a traitor is one who "knowingly inflict[s] damage on their own society". let's see.... they apparently (according to the article you posted the link to):

went to iraq....

"said the Bush administration should give weapons inspections a chance to work before taking any military action"....

"suggested that the sanctions..... led to the starvation and malnutrition of Iraqi children, and the death of 50,000 annually"....

"said that U.S. and British airplanes have been bombing illegitimate targets"....

"said that he thought 'the president would mislead the American people' in order to justify action on Iraq"....


which part of that is known to inflict damage to our society? it may inflict "damage" (in the metaphorical sense) to the administration's policy, but that's part and parcel of politics. no, i'm talking about real damage, on par with espionage or sabotage, to our society. i think it's a bit overzealous to claim that is what happened here.


TK

I'm not sure which I find more annoying-- the true-to-Silent-form backpedaling of the good Congressman from West Seattle, or the 'Pub from Texas slandering Vietnam-vet McDermott as "un-American" for daring to disagree with his precious right wing.

Regarding McDermott, I'm glad someone has the balls to take the Bush Administration to task on their Iraq policy, which I still maintain smacks of a diversion from our failure to capture or kill Osama bin Laden. But if you are going to do so, dammit Jim be a man and stand by your principles. His in-the-end cowering before the Great Elephant makes me just plain sick, and substantially less likely to vote for Mr. McDermott should I ever return to Zip Code 98136.

As for Rep. Johnson, well shit...IMHO it would behoove conservatives who support the Bush Administration wholeheartedly to play Devil's Advocate with the Administration periodically. This, in order to keep them honest, since the President is human too and humans have this nagging tendency to mislead others in the process of getting their way.

Originally Posted by Virgil K. Saari

Originally Posted by justmom

I didn't really have a place to put this, but, thought the 2 comments side
by side were interesting.

The New York Observer

Gore?s TV War: He Lobs Salvo At Fox News
by Josh Benson

Among the many problems facing the Democratic Party, according to former Vice President Al Gore, is the state of the American media.

"The media is kind of weird these days on politics, and there are some major institutional voices that are, truthfully speaking, part and parcel of the Republican Party," said Mr. Gore in an interview with The Observer. "Fox News Network, The Washington Times, Rush Limbaugh?there?s a bunch of them, and some of them are financed by wealthy ultra-conservative billionaires who make political deals with Republican administrations and the rest of the media ?. Most of the media [has] been slow to recognize the pervasive impact of this fifth column in their ranks?that is, day after day, injecting the daily Republican talking points into the definition of what?s objective as stated by the news media as a whole."

Perhaps it's because the Jews control everything? [sarcasm]
In Bin Laden's "Letter to America" he laments the same as Al. Sort of.

(ii) You are the nation that permits Usury, which has been forbidden by all the religions. Yet you build your economy and investments on Usury. As a result of this, in all its different forms and guises, the Jews have taken control of your economy, through which they have then taken control of your media, and now control all aspects of your life making you their servants and achieving their aims at your expense; precisely what Benjamin Franklin warned you against.

Ah, well, I guess it's just all about perception.

Bibi makes 3: A Jewish media conspiracy (with real Jews):

http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/pa...ubContrassID=0


Netanyahu and his supporters went on to complain about his treatment in the media. "I am honestly very worried by the poll results," said Likud MK Yuval Steinitz. He quickly went on the offensive, however, blaming the Israeli media and pollsters for "conspiring" to bury Netanyahu, a former prime minister who led Sharon in polls only a few months ago. Shai Bazak and Ofir Akonis, who are vying for places on the Likud?s Knesset list, said in interviews Wednesday that the media was discriminating against Netanyahu, and was widely reporting every failed step of Netanyahu?s campaign.




23 Kislev 5763 number of Ha'aretz

Netanyahu and supporters slam media, say will beat polls

By Yossi Verter, Ha'aretz Correspondent, and Ha'aretz Service

:o Well, it's a wrap then.
Jews control the media.
Koreans control nail salons.
Mexicans control outdoor botanicals.
Japanese control Sushi Restaurants.
Chinese control the Christmas gift industry.

Did I miss anyone?

Originally Posted by Virgil K. Saari

Originally Posted by justmom

I didn't really have a place to put this, but, thought the 2 comments side
by side were interesting.

The New York Observer

Gore?s TV War: He Lobs Salvo At Fox News
by Josh Benson

Among the many problems facing the Democratic Party, according to former Vice President Al Gore, is the state of the American media.

"The media is kind of weird these days on politics, and there are some major institutional voices that are, truthfully speaking, part and parcel of the Republican Party," said Mr. Gore in an interview with The Observer. "Fox News Network, The Washington Times, Rush Limbaugh?there?s a bunch of them, and some of them are financed by wealthy ultra-conservative billionaires who make political deals with Republican administrations and the rest of the media ?. Most of the media [has] been slow to recognize the pervasive impact of this fifth column in their ranks?that is, day after day, injecting the daily Republican talking points into the definition of what?s objective as stated by the news media as a whole."

Perhaps it's because the Jews control everything? [sarcasm]
In Bin Laden's "Letter to America" he laments the same as Al. Sort of.

(ii) You are the nation that permits Usury, which has been forbidden by all the religions. Yet you build your economy and investments on Usury. As a result of this, in all its different forms and guises, the Jews have taken control of your economy, through which they have then taken control of your media, and now control all aspects of your life making you their servants and achieving their aims at your expense; precisely what Benjamin Franklin warned you against.

Ah, well, I guess it's just all about perception.

Bibi makes 3: A Jewish media conspiracy (with real Jews):

http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/pa...ubContrassID=0


Netanyahu and his supporters went on to complain about his treatment in the media. "I am honestly very worried by the poll results," said Likud MK Yuval Steinitz. He quickly went on the offensive, however, blaming the Israeli media and pollsters for "conspiring" to bury Netanyahu, a former prime minister who led Sharon in polls only a few months ago. Shai Bazak and Ofir Akonis, who are vying for places on the Likud?s Knesset list, said in interviews Wednesday that the media was discriminating against Netanyahu, and was widely reporting every failed step of Netanyahu?s campaign.




23 Kislev 5763 number of Ha'aretz

Netanyahu and supporters slam media, say will beat polls

By Yossi Verter, Ha'aretz Correspondent, and Ha'aretz Service

:o Well, it's a wrap then.
Jews control the media.
Koreans control nail salons.
Mexicans control outdoor botanicals.
Japanese control Sushi Restaurants.
Chinese control the Christmas gift industry.

Did I miss anyone?

Originally Posted by Virgil K. Saari

Originally Posted by justmom

I didn't really have a place to put this, but, thought the 2 comments side
by side were interesting.

The New York Observer

Gore?s TV War: He Lobs Salvo At Fox News
by Josh Benson

Among the many problems facing the Democratic Party, according to former Vice President Al Gore, is the state of the American media.

"The media is kind of weird these days on politics, and there are some major institutional voices that are, truthfully speaking, part and parcel of the Republican Party," said Mr. Gore in an interview with The Observer. "Fox News Network, The Washington Times, Rush Limbaugh?there?s a bunch of them, and some of them are financed by wealthy ultra-conservative billionaires who make political deals with Republican administrations and the rest of the media ?. Most of the media [has] been slow to recognize the pervasive impact of this fifth column in their ranks?that is, day after day, injecting the daily Republican talking points into the definition of what?s objective as stated by the news media as a whole."

Perhaps it's because the Jews control everything? [sarcasm]
In Bin Laden's "Letter to America" he laments the same as Al. Sort of.

(ii) You are the nation that permits Usury, which has been forbidden by all the religions. Yet you build your economy and investments on Usury. As a result of this, in all its different forms and guises, the Jews have taken control of your economy, through which they have then taken control of your media, and now control all aspects of your life making you their servants and achieving their aims at your expense; precisely what Benjamin Franklin warned you against.

Ah, well, I guess it's just all about perception.

Bibi makes 3: A Jewish media conspiracy (with real Jews):

http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/pa...ubContrassID=0


Netanyahu and his supporters went on to complain about his treatment in the media. "I am honestly very worried by the poll results," said Likud MK Yuval Steinitz. He quickly went on the offensive, however, blaming the Israeli media and pollsters for "conspiring" to bury Netanyahu, a former prime minister who led Sharon in polls only a few months ago. Shai Bazak and Ofir Akonis, who are vying for places on the Likud?s Knesset list, said in interviews Wednesday that the media was discriminating against Netanyahu, and was widely reporting every failed step of Netanyahu?s campaign.




23 Kislev 5763 number of Ha'aretz

Netanyahu and supporters slam media, say will beat polls

By Yossi Verter, Ha'aretz Correspondent, and Ha'aretz Service

:o Well, it's a wrap then.
Jews control the media.
Koreans control nail salons.
Mexicans control outdoor botanicals.
Japanese control Sushi Restaurants.
Chinese control the Christmas gift industry.

Did I miss anyone?

Originally Posted by justmom

:o Well, it's a wrap then.
Jews control the media.
Koreans control nail salons.
Mexicans control outdoor botanicals.
Japanese control Sushi Restaurants.
Chinese control the Christmas gift industry.

Did I miss anyone?

Finns control the sauna switch markets...

http://cankar.org/sauna/dictionary/lexicon.html#vihta

Originally Posted by justmom

:o Well, it's a wrap then.
Jews control the media.
Koreans control nail salons.
Mexicans control outdoor botanicals.
Japanese control Sushi Restaurants.
Chinese control the Christmas gift industry.

Did I miss anyone?

Finns control the sauna switch markets...

http://cankar.org/sauna/dictionary/lexicon.html#vihta

Originally Posted by justmom

:o Well, it's a wrap then.
Jews control the media.
Koreans control nail salons.
Mexicans control outdoor botanicals.
Japanese control Sushi Restaurants.
Chinese control the Christmas gift industry.

Did I miss anyone?

Finns control the sauna switch markets...

http://cankar.org/sauna/dictionary/lexicon.html#vihta

Originally Posted by Virgil K. Saari

Originally Posted by justmom

:o Well, it's a wrap then.
Jews control the media.
Koreans control nail salons.
Mexicans control outdoor botanicals.
Japanese control Sushi Restaurants.
Chinese control the Christmas gift industry.

Did I miss anyone?

Finns control the sauna switch markets...

http://cankar.org/sauna/dictionary/lexicon.html#vihta

I have been known to control the water temperature in my shower from time to time. :P

Originally Posted by Virgil K. Saari

Originally Posted by justmom

:o Well, it's a wrap then.
Jews control the media.
Koreans control nail salons.
Mexicans control outdoor botanicals.
Japanese control Sushi Restaurants.
Chinese control the Christmas gift industry.

Did I miss anyone?

Finns control the sauna switch markets...

http://cankar.org/sauna/dictionary/lexicon.html#vihta

I have been known to control the water temperature in my shower from time to time. :P

Originally Posted by Virgil K. Saari

Originally Posted by justmom

:o Well, it's a wrap then.
Jews control the media.
Koreans control nail salons.
Mexicans control outdoor botanicals.
Japanese control Sushi Restaurants.
Chinese control the Christmas gift industry.

Did I miss anyone?

Finns control the sauna switch markets...

http://cankar.org/sauna/dictionary/lexicon.html#vihta

I have been known to control the water temperature in my shower from time to time. :P

Originally Posted by Xer of Evil

All patriotic Americans should demand that the prez forget about Iraq and start bombing the crap out Saudi Arabia. They're the ones who attacked us on 911, and they'll do it again.

XoE

Fuckin'-A told!!!

He won't, of course. How silly of you even to suggest it! After all, keeping his oil company CEO fuckbuddies in business is far, far important than avenging 3000 American lives already lost, and preventing the deaths of uncounted millions to come.

Besides, the woman-enslaving Saudis are our "friends"!!!

Originally Posted by Xer of Evil

All patriotic Americans should demand that the prez forget about Iraq and start bombing the crap out Saudi Arabia. They're the ones who attacked us on 911, and they'll do it again.

XoE

Fuckin'-A told!!!

He won't, of course. How silly of you even to suggest it! After all, keeping his oil company CEO fuckbuddies in business is far, far important than avenging 3000 American lives already lost, and preventing the deaths of uncounted millions to come.

Besides, the woman-enslaving Saudis are our "friends"!!!

Originally Posted by Xer of Evil

All patriotic Americans should demand that the prez forget about Iraq and start bombing the crap out Saudi Arabia. They're the ones who attacked us on 911, and they'll do it again.

XoE

Fuckin'-A told!!!

He won't, of course. How silly of you even to suggest it! After all, keeping his oil company CEO fuckbuddies in business is far, far important than avenging 3000 American lives already lost, and preventing the deaths of uncounted millions to come.

Besides, the woman-enslaving Saudis are our "friends"!!!

Originally Posted by justmom

I didn't really have a place to put this, but, thought the 2 comments side
by side were interesting.

The New York Observer

Gore?s TV War: He Lobs Salvo At Fox News
by Josh Benson

Among the many problems facing the Democratic Party, according to former Vice President Al Gore, is the state of the American media.

"The media is kind of weird these days on politics, and there are some major institutional voices that are, truthfully speaking, part and parcel of the Republican Party," said Mr. Gore in an interview with The Observer. "Fox News Network, The Washington Times, Rush Limbaugh?there?s a bunch of them, and some of them are financed by wealthy ultra-conservative billionaires who make political deals with Republican administrations and the rest of the media ?. Most of the media [has] been slow to recognize the pervasive impact of this fifth column in their ranks?that is, day after day, injecting the daily Republican talking points into the definition of what?s objective as stated by the news media as a whole."

Ah, well, I guess it's just all about perception.

If Al Gore was an Australian and accusing the conventional media for rooting the Liberal and National parties most of time, I would agree with him.

Dunno about the press leanings to which party in the USA, I would suspect it would be free market economically and socially liberal like the press in Australia.

Al Gore's complaints about today?s media being post-modernist and nihilistic in its outlook are valid. The media has exhibited during the unraveling quite worrying trends towards the gradual transformation of news as entertainment and the shorter attention span of the media.

The media these days rarely airs the views of politicians or political movements pushing a long term agenda to change society or giving air to a politician or a political movement which wants to change the opinion of people on an issue by arguing rather than just adopting the populist line.

Originally Posted by justmom

I didn't really have a place to put this, but, thought the 2 comments side
by side were interesting.

The New York Observer

Gore?s TV War: He Lobs Salvo At Fox News
by Josh Benson

Among the many problems facing the Democratic Party, according to former Vice President Al Gore, is the state of the American media.

"The media is kind of weird these days on politics, and there are some major institutional voices that are, truthfully speaking, part and parcel of the Republican Party," said Mr. Gore in an interview with The Observer. "Fox News Network, The Washington Times, Rush Limbaugh?there?s a bunch of them, and some of them are financed by wealthy ultra-conservative billionaires who make political deals with Republican administrations and the rest of the media ?. Most of the media [has] been slow to recognize the pervasive impact of this fifth column in their ranks?that is, day after day, injecting the daily Republican talking points into the definition of what?s objective as stated by the news media as a whole."

Ah, well, I guess it's just all about perception.

If Al Gore was an Australian and accusing the conventional media for rooting the Liberal and National parties most of time, I would agree with him.

Dunno about the press leanings to which party in the USA, I would suspect it would be free market economically and socially liberal like the press in Australia.

Al Gore's complaints about today?s media being post-modernist and nihilistic in its outlook are valid. The media has exhibited during the unraveling quite worrying trends towards the gradual transformation of news as entertainment and the shorter attention span of the media.

The media these days rarely airs the views of politicians or political movements pushing a long term agenda to change society or giving air to a politician or a political movement which wants to change the opinion of people on an issue by arguing rather than just adopting the populist line.

Originally Posted by justmom

I didn't really have a place to put this, but, thought the 2 comments side
by side were interesting.

The New York Observer

Gore?s TV War: He Lobs Salvo At Fox News
by Josh Benson

Among the many problems facing the Democratic Party, according to former Vice President Al Gore, is the state of the American media.

"The media is kind of weird these days on politics, and there are some major institutional voices that are, truthfully speaking, part and parcel of the Republican Party," said Mr. Gore in an interview with The Observer. "Fox News Network, The Washington Times, Rush Limbaugh?there?s a bunch of them, and some of them are financed by wealthy ultra-conservative billionaires who make political deals with Republican administrations and the rest of the media ?. Most of the media [has] been slow to recognize the pervasive impact of this fifth column in their ranks?that is, day after day, injecting the daily Republican talking points into the definition of what?s objective as stated by the news media as a whole."

Ah, well, I guess it's just all about perception.

If Al Gore was an Australian and accusing the conventional media for rooting the Liberal and National parties most of time, I would agree with him.

Dunno about the press leanings to which party in the USA, I would suspect it would be free market economically and socially liberal like the press in Australia.

Al Gore's complaints about today?s media being post-modernist and nihilistic in its outlook are valid. The media has exhibited during the unraveling quite worrying trends towards the gradual transformation of news as entertainment and the shorter attention span of the media.

The media these days rarely airs the views of politicians or political movements pushing a long term agenda to change society or giving air to a politician or a political movement which wants to change the opinion of people on an issue by arguing rather than just adopting the populist line.

Originally Posted by Kevin Parker '59

Originally Posted by Xer of Evil

All patriotic Americans should demand that the prez forget about Iraq and start bombing the crap out Saudi Arabia. They're the ones who attacked us on 911, and they'll do it again.

XoE

Fuckin'-A told!!!

He won't, of course. How silly of you even to suggest it! After all, keeping his oil company CEO fuckbuddies in business is far, far important than avenging 3000 American lives already lost, and preventing the deaths of uncounted millions to come.

Besides, the woman-enslaving Saudis are our "friends"!!!

Well said!... I was thinking the same thing myself *high fives XoE for the idea* - it is also worth noting that the BUSHes and the SAUDs are rich oil ruling families with four-letter, monosyllabic names who believe in religious conservatism of some form or another and practice teetotaling behavior (and there's almost definitely more where that came from!)

Originally Posted by Kevin Parker '59

Originally Posted by Xer of Evil

All patriotic Americans should demand that the prez forget about Iraq and start bombing the crap out Saudi Arabia. They're the ones who attacked us on 911, and they'll do it again.

XoE

Fuckin'-A told!!!

He won't, of course. How silly of you even to suggest it! After all, keeping his oil company CEO fuckbuddies in business is far, far important than avenging 3000 American lives already lost, and preventing the deaths of uncounted millions to come.

Besides, the woman-enslaving Saudis are our "friends"!!!

Well said!... I was thinking the same thing myself *high fives XoE for the idea* - it is also worth noting that the BUSHes and the SAUDs are rich oil ruling families with four-letter, monosyllabic names who believe in religious conservatism of some form or another and practice teetotaling behavior (and there's almost definitely more where that came from!)

Originally Posted by Kevin Parker '59

Originally Posted by Xer of Evil

All patriotic Americans should demand that the prez forget about Iraq and start bombing the crap out Saudi Arabia. They're the ones who attacked us on 911, and they'll do it again.

XoE

Fuckin'-A told!!!

He won't, of course. How silly of you even to suggest it! After all, keeping his oil company CEO fuckbuddies in business is far, far important than avenging 3000 American lives already lost, and preventing the deaths of uncounted millions to come.

Besides, the woman-enslaving Saudis are our "friends"!!!

Well said!... I was thinking the same thing myself *high fives XoE for the idea* - it is also worth noting that the BUSHes and the SAUDs are rich oil ruling families with four-letter, monosyllabic names who believe in religious conservatism of some form or another and practice teetotaling behavior (and there's almost definitely more where that came from!)

...it is also worth noting that the BUSHes and the SAUDs are rich oil ruling families with four-letter, monosyllabic names who believe in religious conservatism of some form or another and practice teetotaling behavior (and there's almost definitely more where that came from!)

Teetotaling? What about Dubbya's Drunk Driving conviction?

...it is also worth noting that the BUSHes and the SAUDs are rich oil ruling families with four-letter, monosyllabic names who believe in religious conservatism of some form or another and practice teetotaling behavior (and there's almost definitely more where that came from!)

Teetotaling? What about Dubbya's Drunk Driving conviction?

...it is also worth noting that the BUSHes and the SAUDs are rich oil ruling families with four-letter, monosyllabic names who believe in religious conservatism of some form or another and practice teetotaling behavior (and there's almost definitely more where that came from!)

Teetotaling? What about Dubbya's Drunk Driving conviction?