http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/fea...1.florida.html

Here's an article (long) by Richard Florida that outlines what I believe to be the key issue of the crisis: the lack of leading sectors for the next economy. It also characterizes the "sides" of the crisis as old economy (red) versus new economy (blue).

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/fea...1.florida.html

Here's an article (long) by Richard Florida that outlines what I believe to be the key issue of the crisis: the lack of leading sectors for the next economy. It also characterizes the "sides" of the crisis as old economy (red) versus new economy (blue).

Originally Posted by Mike Alexander '59

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2004/0401.florida.html

Here's an article (long) by Richard Florida that outlines what I believe to be the key issue of the crisis: the lack of leading sectors for the next economy. It also characterizes the "sides" of the crisis as old economy (red) versus new economy (blue).

That other portions of the world will experience the "variety" that has made America great is a positive thing in the long run. The American- "my way or the highway" can now allow those in the rest of the planet to choose another road as various moral, economic, social and religious options open up on other shores. They can now choose the "highway".


This is a good thing... that the creative class can live in large portions of the world rather than one nation only. From the Tundra to the Antipodes, "Let Freedom ring!"

Originally Posted by Mike Alexander '59

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2004/0401.florida.html

Here's an article (long) by Richard Florida that outlines what I believe to be the key issue of the crisis: the lack of leading sectors for the next economy. It also characterizes the "sides" of the crisis as old economy (red) versus new economy (blue).

That other portions of the world will experience the "variety" that has made America great is a positive thing in the long run. The American- "my way or the highway" can now allow those in the rest of the planet to choose another road as various moral, economic, social and religious options open up on other shores. They can now choose the "highway".


This is a good thing... that the creative class can live in large portions of the world rather than one nation only. From the Tundra to the Antipodes, "Let Freedom ring!"

Originally Posted by Mike Alexander '59

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2004/0401.florida.html

Here's an article (long) by Richard Florida that outlines what I believe to be the key issue of the crisis: the lack of leading sectors for the next economy. It also characterizes the "sides" of the crisis as old economy (red) versus new economy (blue).

That other portions of the world will experience the "variety" that has made America great is a positive thing in the long run. The American- "my way or the highway" can now allow those in the rest of the planet to choose another road as various moral, economic, social and religious options open up on other shores. They can now choose the "highway".


This is a good thing... that the creative class can live in large portions of the world rather than one nation only. From the Tundra to the Antipodes, "Let Freedom ring!"

let's outsource all the layers.

With apology to the Earl of Oxford. :oops:

let's outsource all the layers.

With apology to the Earl of Oxford. :oops:

let's outsource all the layers.

With apology to the Earl of Oxford. :oops:

Poll results from www.insightmagazine.com:

What should be done about the Janet Jackson/Justin Timberlake stunt at the Super Bowl?

Fine them for indecent exposure
(7%)

Fine the NFL
(3%)

Fine CBS
(13%)

Fine MTV
(6%)

Make Jackson and Timberlake pay all fines imposed on the NFL, CBS and/or MTV
(31%)

Require the NFL to include the Jackson/Timberlake stunt in its Super Bowl highlight film
(39%)

Notice which choice got the most support; I'd say that this is damn good 3T evidence

Poll results from www.insightmagazine.com:

What should be done about the Janet Jackson/Justin Timberlake stunt at the Super Bowl?

Fine them for indecent exposure
(7%)

Fine the NFL
(3%)

Fine CBS
(13%)

Fine MTV
(6%)

Make Jackson and Timberlake pay all fines imposed on the NFL, CBS and/or MTV
(31%)

Require the NFL to include the Jackson/Timberlake stunt in its Super Bowl highlight film
(39%)

Notice which choice got the most support; I'd say that this is damn good 3T evidence

Poll results from www.insightmagazine.com:

What should be done about the Janet Jackson/Justin Timberlake stunt at the Super Bowl?

Fine them for indecent exposure
(7%)

Fine the NFL
(3%)

Fine CBS
(13%)

Fine MTV
(6%)

Make Jackson and Timberlake pay all fines imposed on the NFL, CBS and/or MTV
(31%)

Require the NFL to include the Jackson/Timberlake stunt in its Super Bowl highlight film
(39%)

Notice which choice got the most support; I'd say that this is damn good 3T evidence

But wait...

What about the (hypocritical)over-reaction from middle-America, Jackson out of the Grammys, new 7-second delay on NBC and 5 MINUTE DELAY on CBS, the reaction of the FCC compared to Bono's f-word?

That sounds more like 4T to me.

But wait...

What about the (hypocritical)over-reaction from middle-America, Jackson out of the Grammys, new 7-second delay on NBC and 5 MINUTE DELAY on CBS, the reaction of the FCC compared to Bono's f-word?

That sounds more like 4T to me.

But wait...

What about the (hypocritical)over-reaction from middle-America, Jackson out of the Grammys, new 7-second delay on NBC and 5 MINUTE DELAY on CBS, the reaction of the FCC compared to Bono's f-word?

That sounds more like 4T to me.

Originally Posted by mmailliw 8419

Poll results from www.insightmagazine.com:

What should be done about the Janet Jackson/Justin Timberlake stunt at the Super Bowl?

Fine them for indecent exposure
(7%)

Fine the NFL
(3%)

Fine CBS
(13%)

Fine MTV
(6%)

Make Jackson and Timberlake pay all fines imposed on the NFL, CBS and/or MTV
(31%)

Require the NFL to include the Jackson/Timberlake stunt in its Super Bowl highlight film
(39%)

Notice which choice got the most support; I'd say that this is damn good 3T evidence

Or 4T escapism.
Think about it: the Golden Age of cinema, Hollywood glamor girls, and advent of television was not during a 3T, but during WW2--the last 4T!

Originally Posted by mmailliw 8419

Poll results from www.insightmagazine.com:

What should be done about the Janet Jackson/Justin Timberlake stunt at the Super Bowl?

Fine them for indecent exposure
(7%)

Fine the NFL
(3%)

Fine CBS
(13%)

Fine MTV
(6%)

Make Jackson and Timberlake pay all fines imposed on the NFL, CBS and/or MTV
(31%)

Require the NFL to include the Jackson/Timberlake stunt in its Super Bowl highlight film
(39%)

Notice which choice got the most support; I'd say that this is damn good 3T evidence

Or 4T escapism.
Think about it: the Golden Age of cinema, Hollywood glamor girls, and advent of television was not during a 3T, but during WW2--the last 4T!

Originally Posted by mmailliw 8419

Poll results from www.insightmagazine.com:

What should be done about the Janet Jackson/Justin Timberlake stunt at the Super Bowl?

Fine them for indecent exposure
(7%)

Fine the NFL
(3%)

Fine CBS
(13%)

Fine MTV
(6%)

Make Jackson and Timberlake pay all fines imposed on the NFL, CBS and/or MTV
(31%)

Require the NFL to include the Jackson/Timberlake stunt in its Super Bowl highlight film
(39%)

Notice which choice got the most support; I'd say that this is damn good 3T evidence

Or 4T escapism.
Think about it: the Golden Age of cinema, Hollywood glamor girls, and advent of television was not during a 3T, but during WW2--the last 4T!

Originally Posted by BoomerXer

But wait...

What about the (hypocritical)over-reaction from middle-America, Jackson out of the Grammys, new 7-second delay on NBC and 5 MINUTE DELAY on CBS, the reaction of the FCC compared to Bono's f-word?

That sounds more like 4T to me.

That and http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/NewsStory...RITY&oid=44070

and the fact that that number has gone up to 45% the last time I checked (though the site is down) makes this look like nothing more than intensified Culture Wars to me.

Originally Posted by BoomerXer

But wait...

What about the (hypocritical)over-reaction from middle-America, Jackson out of the Grammys, new 7-second delay on NBC and 5 MINUTE DELAY on CBS, the reaction of the FCC compared to Bono's f-word?

That sounds more like 4T to me.

That and http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/NewsStory...RITY&oid=44070

and the fact that that number has gone up to 45% the last time I checked (though the site is down) makes this look like nothing more than intensified Culture Wars to me.

Originally Posted by BoomerXer

But wait...

What about the (hypocritical)over-reaction from middle-America, Jackson out of the Grammys, new 7-second delay on NBC and 5 MINUTE DELAY on CBS, the reaction of the FCC compared to Bono's f-word?

That sounds more like 4T to me.

That and http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/NewsStory...RITY&oid=44070

and the fact that that number has gone up to 45% the last time I checked (though the site is down) makes this look like nothing more than intensified Culture Wars to me.

Originally Posted by BoomerXer

But wait...

What about the (hypocritical)over-reaction from middle-America, Jackson out of the Grammys, new 7-second delay on NBC and 5 MINUTE DELAY on CBS, the reaction of the FCC compared to Bono's f-word?

That sounds more like 4T to me.

Here are all the links related to "Breastplate--uh, Breastgate" that I found just on the front page of AIM Celebrity:

Jackson overexposure: TV feels heat CNN 02/05/04 9:56AM
Nervous NBC edits 'ER' breast shot CNN 02/05/04 8:54AM
ABC to impose delay on Oscar telecast CNN 02/05/04 9:06AM
Janet Jackson may skip Grammys CNN 02/04/04 4:39PM
Does the First Amendment Protect Janet Jackson and Justin Timberlake? CNN 02/04/04 3:13PM

Originally Posted by BoomerXer

But wait...

What about the (hypocritical)over-reaction from middle-America, Jackson out of the Grammys, new 7-second delay on NBC and 5 MINUTE DELAY on CBS, the reaction of the FCC compared to Bono's f-word?

That sounds more like 4T to me.

Here are all the links related to "Breastplate--uh, Breastgate" that I found just on the front page of AIM Celebrity:

Jackson overexposure: TV feels heat CNN 02/05/04 9:56AM
Nervous NBC edits 'ER' breast shot CNN 02/05/04 8:54AM
ABC to impose delay on Oscar telecast CNN 02/05/04 9:06AM
Janet Jackson may skip Grammys CNN 02/04/04 4:39PM
Does the First Amendment Protect Janet Jackson and Justin Timberlake? CNN 02/04/04 3:13PM

Originally Posted by BoomerXer

But wait...

What about the (hypocritical)over-reaction from middle-America, Jackson out of the Grammys, new 7-second delay on NBC and 5 MINUTE DELAY on CBS, the reaction of the FCC compared to Bono's f-word?

That sounds more like 4T to me.

Here are all the links related to "Breastplate--uh, Breastgate" that I found just on the front page of AIM Celebrity:

Jackson overexposure: TV feels heat CNN 02/05/04 9:56AM
Nervous NBC edits 'ER' breast shot CNN 02/05/04 8:54AM
ABC to impose delay on Oscar telecast CNN 02/05/04 9:06AM
Janet Jackson may skip Grammys CNN 02/04/04 4:39PM
Does the First Amendment Protect Janet Jackson and Justin Timberlake? CNN 02/04/04 3:13PM

I tend to agree that the reaction to Janet's overexposure is 4T, although I wonder how many kids were looking at an adult naked breast for the first time. (Believe it or not, I was 18 when I saw my first one in a movie, but of course I had seen many in magazines long before that.) As you all know, the raunchiness of the ads has attracted a lot of attention. Forgotten in all this is the ad that CBS refused to air, the moveon.org winning anti-Bush ad, which was actually both tasteful and serious.

David K '47

I tend to agree that the reaction to Janet's overexposure is 4T, although I wonder how many kids were looking at an adult naked breast for the first time. (Believe it or not, I was 18 when I saw my first one in a movie, but of course I had seen many in magazines long before that.) As you all know, the raunchiness of the ads has attracted a lot of attention. Forgotten in all this is the ad that CBS refused to air, the moveon.org winning anti-Bush ad, which was actually both tasteful and serious.

David K '47