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Post#10101 at 08-03-2005 12:22 PM by Zarathustra [at Where the Northwest meets the Southwest joined Mar 2003 #posts 9,198]
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Quote Originally Posted by Devil's Advocate
. . . ever heard of that good-old fashioned method of regime change?

It's called an election.
Harris-Blackwell style? :wink:
Americans have had enough of glitz and roar . . Foreboding has deepened, and spiritual currents have darkened . . .
THE FOURTH TURNING IS AT HAND.
See T4T, p. 253.







Post#10102 at 08-03-2005 12:34 PM by Virgil K. Saari [at '49er, north of the Mesabi Mountains joined Jun 2001 #posts 7,835]
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Regime change

Quote Originally Posted by Peter Gibbons
Quote Originally Posted by _
. . . ever heard of that good-old fashioned method of regime change?

It's called an election.
Harris-Blackwell style? :wink:
Is not done by election. The regime in British North America was changed by rebellion against the Crown, that was followed by a Constitutional Convention, that was followed by the actions of "Honest Abe's" War of Northern Aggression.

Bush>Clinton>Bush>(S.W.O.T.E./Bush)? is regime change only in the minds of Progressives (Red and Blue).







Post#10103 at 08-04-2005 09:12 AM by Virgil K. Saari [at '49er, north of the Mesabi Mountains joined Jun 2001 #posts 7,835]
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The Bots say

Spend It! Don't mend it.

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"If you look at fiscal conservatism these days, it's in a sorry state," said Rep. Jeff Flake (R-Ariz.), one of only eight House members to vote against the $286.5 billion transportation bill that was passed the day before the recess. "Republicans don't even pretend anymore."

:arrow: :arrow: :arrow:







Post#10104 at 08-04-2005 10:15 AM by Pink Splice [at St. Louis MO (They Built An Entire Country Around Us) joined Apr 2005 #posts 5,439]
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Re: The Bots say

Quote Originally Posted by Virgil K. Saari
Spend It! Don't mend it.

:arrow: :arrow: :arrow:


"If you look at fiscal conservatism these days, it's in a sorry state," said Rep. Jeff Flake (R-Ariz.), one of only eight House members to vote against the $286.5 billion transportation bill that was passed the day before the recess. "Republicans don't even pretend anymore."

:arrow: :arrow: :arrow:
No shit.







Post#10105 at 08-05-2005 08:00 PM by Mustang [at Confederate States of America joined May 2003 #posts 2,303]
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Here is another report on the alleged indictment of Junior and a large portion of the Bush Cabal. He makes the following statement:

"The substance of the details in this story have been confirmed to us as being true and correct by high government officials, with spotless records, of the U.S., Canada, and Europe."

We know that Canada and Europe are, by and large, no fans of the Bush Crime Family. I have yet to see where the press in any of these places has picked up this story. In the absence of foreign press validation, this looks too much like the standard Bush Cabal disinfo/misinfo. But it does make for some highly entertaining reading in this Bushian era of incessant propagandistic BS, and I do mean HIGHLY!



http://www.cloakanddagger.de/media/S...eries/bush.htm

(Standard disclaimers)


BUSH & CO. FACING PROSECUTION


by Sherman H. Skolnick


8/5/5

History repeats. Yet, some in the younger generations do not have the time or patience to look back.

In the fall of 1973, a Special Prosecutor, on the track of the Watergate Affair, had compiled witnesses and evidence, which some contend was leading to the prosecution of President Richard M. Nixon for various Federal Criminal offenses.

Nixon had two options:

(A) He could have his attorneys put together a lawyer-like defense, based supposedly on the law and the facts. [As a stooge and scapegoat for the ultra-rich, he might do that. His bosses, the Ruling Elite, however, rely instead on the Big Fix, blackmail, terror, bribery, political murder.]

(B) Whatever presidential power Nixon supposed he had, he might use to "chop off the heads" of the prosecutorial team---all of them.

The result was called "The Saturday Night Massacre". After August, 1974, when Nixon resigned facing Impeachment, some smaller newspapers carried the statement of the Foreman of a Federal Grand Jury. The Grand Jury, he said, had voted True Bills, Federal Criminal Indictments, against Nixon. But, the Justice Department warned the Foreman and the Grand Jurors, that if the indictment was released, they would be greatly harmed and the federal authorities would not protect them, according to the Foreman.

Connecting the dots might show what choices the Occupant and Resident of the White House, George W. Bush, has, if at all.

1. For several years we have been researching and investigating bribery and other malign influences used to procure from a Five-Judge majority of the U.S. Supreme Court the arbitrary and corrupt ruling, December, 2000, installing by way of the case of Bush versus Gore, a fictitious president into the Oval Office.

One of the four dissenting judges, John Paul Stevens, issued the most blistering Dissenting Opinion ever made by a high court judge.
On the other hand, dissenting Judge Ruth Bader Ginsburg, the subject of threats by the Five, deleted from her Dissenting Opinion certain revealing matters.

2. The kingpin of the infamous Five was Judge Antonin Scalia. He and three judges in the federal appeals court in Chicago, U.S. Court of Appeals for the 7th Circuit, one step below the high court in Washington, three were professors together and one was law school dean at Rockefeller's University of Chicago Law School.

These four Rockefeller judges, while on the bench, continue to represent the several billion dollar investment portfolio of Rockefeller's University of Chicago. Included are stocks of major corporations whose litigation is ruled upon by these judges who do not disqualify themselves. Further, by failing to reveal this, these judges violate a federal law requiring a mandatory annual judicial disclosure of income which these judges sign subject to the penalties of perjury.

Particularly arrogant is Judge Scalia. In the law trade he is known as a "Go To Hell Judge".

3. In December, 2000, presenting the position of George W. Bush in the high court case of Bush versus Gore, was Theodore B. Olson, at the time, a private law partner of Eugene Scalia, son of Judge Scalia. Some contend Olson is a "court bagman" in Washington and in the Federal Courthouse in Chicago.

After George W. Bush was thus installed, Olson was made the Solicitor General. In that capacity, he perverted an intellectual property case in the High Court which benefited Mickey Mouse---Disney---by extending their Copyright 75 years, worth many billions of dollars. Funds from Disney and Coca-Cola were involved in corrupting the Unholy Five on the High Court.

In the 9-11 matter, there is a serious controversy whether Olson's estranged wife Barbara (with whom he apparently had not spoken to for some time) actually spoke from a supposed hi-jacked plane directly to Theodore B. Olson. Was it actually a conversation with a call center operator? Was the American CIA involved? Some think so.

Some continue to aver that Barbara Olson did not perish and has a plastic surgeon new face and a wig. And. moreover, that she is parked in seclusion in an Embassy in Sweden. If so. her emergence some day would pulverize the fake story of 9-11 "Moslem terrorists" like the internal planted explosives that took down the Twin Towers of the World Trade Center.

4. On my website, www.skolnicksreport.com, is an extensive series, "Coca-Cola, CIA, and the Courts", in part relating to the corruption of the infamous Five on the High Court in Bush versus Gore. Documented there is how Homeland Security and the FBI run a warehouse separate from the U.S. Supreme Court Building. A box of documents sent by registered mail and addressed to one of the dissenting Judges was unlawfully there blocked by the American Gestapo.

Instead the documents were sent to a secret federal tribunal supposedly considering misdeeds and corruption of federal judges. Such tribunals keep no name on the matters submitted to them, no public docket, no results, if any, are publicly disclosed. [Yes, there are such secret tribunals. See parts 9 and 10 of the Coca-Cola series.]

5. A tiny portion of our investigation of the High Court corruption, without mentioning us at all by name, became the subject of a lengthy story in Vanity Fair Magazine, October, 2004 issue. Following this was a forty minute segment about this on the Terri Gross Show on National Public Radio.

Risking their future career, some of the law clerks of the Dissenting four judges in Bush versus Gore reportedly stole private secret records of the Infamous Five showing the malign influence worked on the Judges in installing Bush. Instead of investigating the Five High Court Judicial criminals, Homeland Security and the FBI have been threatening and inflicting harm on the Dissenting Four High Court Judges and their brave law clerks.

6. For the first time in memory, an out-of-town prosecutor was brought in to be the new U.S. Attorney in Chicago. Unlike previous Chicago U.S. Attorneys, Fitzgerald was not one of the local political crowd who hope to leave federal office after a few years and join the corporate gangsters who while prosecutor were protected.. Patrick Fitzgerald was also named as the Special Prosecutor in the case stemming from the outing of deep cover CIA operative Valerie Plame. Her husband. former U.S. Ambassador Joseph C. Wilson 4th, was dispatched to the tiny African nation of Niger to find out whether Saddam Hussein was buying yellow cake, that is, uranium, from Niger. Who bothered to note that Iraq has their own ample supply of uranium not used for developing nuclear weapons?

Upon return, Wilson publicly criticized George W. Bush for the fake story about Saddam getting Niger yellow cake.

7. Valerie Plame headed a vast team of more than one hundred covert agents. Some of them were penetration agents, secretly inserted in countries considered by the U.S. as unfriendly in Africa, the Mid-East, and elsewhere.

Also part of her team were upwards of three dozen, or more, biochemists among other things, studying for or against how to use pandemics to minimize "excess population" , that is kill off mere eaters who supposedly do not produce anything "useful".

Several of these biochemists were purportedly adjuncts of various foreign counter-intelligence agencies. Since Plame's covert operations cover was blown, several dozen of these biochemists were murdered. A mere coincidence? One of those biochemists murdered, as ordered by Tony Blair for the benefit of George Bush, was Dr. David Kelly, purportedly also with British Counter-Intelligence, MI-6.

8. Overseas, facilities of Coca-Cola act as an American CIA proprietary firm. Covert espionage agents use Coca- Cola's offices and plants as a cover, a place to conveniently hang their hats. The vast Coca-Cola money flow has been used to return to the U.S. to corrupt the High Court case of Bush versus Gore and other high-level litigation.

The Chief Federal Prosecutor in Atlanta, Coke's headquarters, began digging into allegations that Coca-Cola's upper brass were "cooking the books" sort of like Enron. Understanding it was a good time to get out, many of Coke's upper management quit.

The Atlanta Prosecutor perhaps feared forbidden matters would come out at a trial. Such as that the Coke "book cooking" matters related to the malign influence on the Unholy Five on the High Court in Bush versus Gore. A less than brave prosecutor might jeopardize his career making such matters public.

So instead of a trial there was a settlement. How many incriminating Coke documents were dumped into the Atlanta Prosecutor's shredding machine? How many witnesses were told to "Get lost"? What did the Atlanta Prosecutor do with the load of documents we made available to him?

9. A question remains. Did Valerie Plame, or her husband, know that a sizeable portion of the funds for her team's operations worldwide were funneled through American CIA proprietary Coca-Cola? And that the funds corrupted the High Court?

10. Under the supervision of Chicago Special Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald, several federal grand juries have been examining the route of the release of the information that Valerie Plame was a deep cover CIA operative. outing her being a federal criminal offense.

===A male prostitute, Jeff Gannon, a reputed journalist, attended George W. Bush press conferences, apparently without having been cleared by the Secret Service and the FBI. Gannon asked Bush "soft ball" questions. There is reason to believe that "Gannon" is actually Johnny Gosch who disappeared or was kidnapped at age 12 and made part of a ring of teen age prostitutes arranged by pedophile Daddy Bush. Omaha. Chicago, District of Columbia.

In recent years, on one-day passes, Gannon visited George W. Bush's White House apartment some 200 times, according to U.S. Secret Service records which do not note if Gannon left each time after one day.

Available to one or more federal grand juries have been witnesses who support the contentions that Bush himself gave directly to Gannon data as to the deep cover secret role of Valerie Plame; and that Gannon reportedly proceeded to distribute such data to various mass media people and others.

=== Another grand jury line of inquiry has been that George W, Bush divulged Plame CIA details to Vice President Richard Cheney and that Cheney, in turn, made the information and documents available to his Chief of Staff, "Scooter" Libby tightly entangled with international swindler Marc Rich (alias Reich) and Israeli intelligence, The Mossad. Libby, in turn, made the details known to NBC "Meet The Press" faker Tim Russert but Russert disputes this route. Marc Rich about 1985, with the illegal aid of then Vice President Daddy Bush, fled the U.S.for Zug, Switzerland, just as a federal criminal indictment was about to fall on Rich accusing him of a billion dollar swindle.

At the last minutes of the Clinton administration, in 2001, Mark Rich bribed Bill and Hillary Clinton a reputed one million dollars to pardon Rich, the Clintons being urged to do so because of Marc Rich's work in washing spy funds through the Chicago markets for the unlawful benefit of certain high-level criminals in Israel and elsewhere.

11. From time to time, over the years, Federal Prosecutors in presenting witnesses and evidence behind closed doors, develop problems. Usually, a U.S. District Judge, in secret, is asked to assist. It becomes partly public only rarely when the matter goes on appeal, with a heavily redacted appeal record to the federal appeals court.

Special Prosecutor Fitzgerald was led to believe that, because of her background, Chicago District Judge Joan Humphrey Lefkow might assist in secretly resolving some of the grand jury problems centered on George W. Bush facing federal criminal prosecution. She, together with the one who later became her husband, early in their careers, they became a team stationed in Indonesia for the American CIA. They were there in the oil-soaked island nation at a time when, at the behest of CIA, one hundred fifty thousand natives were slaughtered on the unproven charges they were "Communists".

As we have in previous postings detailed, the FBI no longer were tight with, and using as pals, the traditional Italian and Sicilian mafia. The Bureau preferred to protect the Russian mafiya, particularly so in Chicago where the Bureau is entangled with the Russian mafiya and uses them for FBI dirty business

The FBI refuses to take action against the Russian mafiya's activities in the Chicago-area in peddling stolen credit cards, superior quality counterfeit paper money, and the Russians, primarily Jews as traitors to their tribe, run the Red Light District with impunity; and the Russian mafiya has taken over the Federal Judge bribery rackets in the Dirksen Building, site of the Chicago Bankruptcy Court, the Chicago U.S. District Court, and the U.S. Court of Appeals, 7th Circuit (appeals from Wisconsin, Illinois, and Indiana).

The Russian mafiya as well has taken over the dirty business of buying and selling Chicago Federal Judgeships, an enterprise formerly engaged in by the traditional mafia. [Visit the series, "Coca-Cola, CIA, and The Courts"]

Judge Lefkow and her husband had a bad conflict of interest. however, which apparently interfered with any aid she might be in unknotting grand jury problems behind closed doors. The Judge and her husband had somehow fallen in with the Russian mafiya. Near to the Judge's residence is the Russian Martial Arts Center which somehow boasts on their website and elsewhere that they train U.S. and Russian personnel to be available to the Russian bloody tricks secret political police and commandoes, namely the Spitznaz. Taught for such service is how to subdue enemies with mind-control or to kill enemies with your hands, without using guns.

In February, 2005, Judge Lefkow's mother and husband were found in the Judge's residence brutally murdered. As is their rotten habit, the FBI blamed it all on a "lone assassin", a sometime electrician, a Polish immigrant. The FBI conveniently disregarded the closed circuit video operating in the alley behind various other houses, showing the faces of known Russian mafiya killers, pals of the Chicago FBI and some U.S. Marshals, breaking into the rear of the judge's residence.

12. One or more of the grand juries have concluded their probe and have voted True Bills, Federal Criminal indictments, against George W. Bush, Richard Cheney, "Scooter" Libby, Condoleeza Rice, and Theodore B. Olson; and several media people not previously mentioned in the monopoly press as implicated. Shown as unindicted co- conspirators are two Judges on the U.S. Supreme Court, William Rehnquist and Antonin Scalia, who are among the Gang of Five also in Bush versus Gore.

Because of the horrendous consequences involved, the Indictments are suppressed and there may be an extended delay until they appear on the Chicago Federal Court open records.

13. The substance of the details in this story have been confirmed to us as being true and correct by high government officials, with spotless records, of the U.S., Canada, and Europe.

14. To distract from the impending release of the indictments and the naming of the unindicted co-conspirators, the Bush White House has caused deadly rumors to circulate.

Such as, that the FBI is tracking in the District of Columbia and elsewhere that certain supposed "terrorists" have suitcase dirty nukes ready to set off in D.C.

Such as, that Bush will declare Martial Law and suspend Habeas Corpus, the U.S. Constitution and the Bill of Rights. Such as the U.S. will be wracked with financial and domestic anarchy as Bush seeks asylum in Brazil, or Australia, or elsewhere overseas.

MORE COMING. STAY TUNED.
"What went unforeseen, however, was that the elephant would at some point in the last years of the 20th century be possessed, in both body and spirit, by a coincident fusion of mutant ex-Liberals and holy-rolling Theocrats masquerading as conservatives in the tradition of Barry Goldwater and Ronald Reagan: Death by transmogrification, beginning with The Invasion of the Party Snatchers."

-- Victor Gold, Aide to Barry Goldwater







Post#10106 at 08-05-2005 08:18 PM by cbailey [at B. 1950 joined Sep 2001 #posts 1,559]
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This from PrudentBear:
http://www.prudentbear.com/archive_c...tent_idx=45338





.......Previously we have used the term "Geriatric Bull Market" and would add that when the party is in full swing and the Rolling Stones "Satisfaction" is on full blast, even the oldest in the crowd can kick up their heels. We'll take this metaphor a little further by noting that the speculation is now becoming the equivalent of dancing non-stop to Bill Hailey's Rock Around The Clock, Presley's Jailhouse Rock, the Shandell's Mony Mony, Orbison's Pretty Woman, Bob Seger's Old Time Rock and Roll, and Long John Baldry's King Of Rock And Roll.

On this sequence, the market for stocks, commodities, and homes is about at the equivalent of Pretty Woman, and Orbison's line "No one can look as good as you. Mercy . . ." seems descriptive.

By this model, the excitement is high and there are only two numbers left. These could use up all the available speculative energy by mid-September.

As the saying goes, dance close to the exits – the air is usually cooler and fresher.
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that we are to stand by the president right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt







Post#10107 at 08-06-2005 02:35 AM by Zarathustra [at Where the Northwest meets the Southwest joined Mar 2003 #posts 9,198]
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Quote Originally Posted by Seadog '66
Here is another report on the alleged indictment of Junior and a large portion of the Bush Cabal . . .
It's certainly more interesting than Kathaksung's drivel. I am getting sick and tired of hearing about "poisoned water". :wink:
Americans have had enough of glitz and roar . . Foreboding has deepened, and spiritual currents have darkened . . .
THE FOURTH TURNING IS AT HAND.
See T4T, p. 253.







Post#10108 at 08-06-2005 03:43 PM by Mustang [at Confederate States of America joined May 2003 #posts 2,303]
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That tomflocco.com site where the "extraordinary" story about alleged Bush Cabal indictments originated has been down since yesterday. A few sites have copied an email from Flocco explaining this. Here is one version:


Then Jack received this from Tom:

[Jack begins]

GOT THIS YESTERDAY: (8/4/2005)

[Tom begins]

Jack...was away ....got back today....thursday....call me in am after 10 or 11 am if you want to do something next week....there is more....much more ....am writing now.......had to move site away from possible fbi div 5* infiltration....be back up online in next 24 to 48....best tom flocco

[Tom ends]

So if there's nothing to this, why is he getting hit so hard? Hmmmm...

JB

http://www.haloscan.com/comments/vox...6583279653142/

What on earth is "fbi div 5* infiltration"???

True or false, this is the most entertaining stuff we have had in months! Flocco says there is "more...much more...." Can't wait. It sure beats hearing absurd fantasies about a seven foot tall Saudi mastermind billionaire evil genius hiding out in a cave in the Hindu Kush with his dialysis machine, from which he will take down all world governments anytime now. Such an absurd conspiracy theory has more credibility in an inherently fantastical James Bond movie. I guess they will start serving Kool-Aid in movie theaters any day now. :lol:
"What went unforeseen, however, was that the elephant would at some point in the last years of the 20th century be possessed, in both body and spirit, by a coincident fusion of mutant ex-Liberals and holy-rolling Theocrats masquerading as conservatives in the tradition of Barry Goldwater and Ronald Reagan: Death by transmogrification, beginning with The Invasion of the Party Snatchers."

-- Victor Gold, Aide to Barry Goldwater







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Quote Originally Posted by Seadog '66
What on earth is "fbi div 5* infiltration"???
A quick googling found that "Division 5" is the counter-intelligence unit of the Federal Bureau of Investigation.

This Tom Flocco guy is either in deep sh*t or he needs Kathaksung's meds.
Americans have had enough of glitz and roar . . Foreboding has deepened, and spiritual currents have darkened . . .
THE FOURTH TURNING IS AT HAND.
See T4T, p. 253.







Post#10110 at 08-06-2005 05:49 PM by The Wonkette [at Arlington, VA 1956 joined Jul 2002 #posts 9,209]
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Quote Originally Posted by Peter Gibbons
Quote Originally Posted by Seadog '66
What on earth is "fbi div 5* infiltration"???
A quick googling found that "Division 5" is the counter-intelligence unit of the Federal Bureau of Investigation.

This Tom Flocco guy is either in deep sh*t or he needs Kathaksung's meds.
Or else likes to say startling things for dramatic effect. :wink:
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Post#10111 at 08-06-2005 11:23 PM by Bob Butler 54 [at Cove Hold, Carver, MA joined Jul 2001 #posts 6,431]
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Need for Improved Health Care

Quote Originally Posted by The Wonkette
Quote Originally Posted by Peter Gibbons
This Tom Flocco guy is either in deep sh*t or he needs Kathaksung's meds.
Or else likes to say startling things for dramatic effect. :wink:
Seems to me that he'd best be able to prove several key points of this, or his credibility is pretty well shot. Do the Bush people like to feed lies to discredit opponents? Is Flocco worth the effort to set up a disinformation campaign? Do most HMOs cover Kathaksung meds?







Post#10112 at 08-07-2005 01:57 AM by Zarathustra [at Where the Northwest meets the Southwest joined Mar 2003 #posts 9,198]
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Re: Need for Improved Health Care

Quote Originally Posted by Bob Butler 54
Quote Originally Posted by The Wonkette
Quote Originally Posted by Peter Gibbons
This Tom Flocco guy is either in deep sh*t or he needs Kathaksung's meds.
Or else likes to say startling things for dramatic effect. :wink:
Seems to me that he'd best be able to prove several key points of this, or his credibility is pretty well shot. Do the Bush people like to feed lies to discredit opponents? Is Flocco worth the effort to set up a disinformation campaign? Do most HMOs cover Kathaksung meds?
There is no need to bother the HMO's since Kathaksung doesn't seem to take them anyway.

Yes, this Flocco guy must now either produce the goods or show up dead somewhere otherwise his credibility is most certainly gone. BTW, how much credibility did he have already? This "the government was involved in 9/11" stuff is more than a little out there.


But hey, it's possible that FDR knew Pearl Harbor was coming, so what the hell? :shock:
Americans have had enough of glitz and roar . . Foreboding has deepened, and spiritual currents have darkened . . .
THE FOURTH TURNING IS AT HAND.
See T4T, p. 253.







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We are experiencing a moral revival!

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/07/opinion/07brooks.html







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Quote Originally Posted by Tom Mazanec
We are experiencing a moral revival!

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/07/opinion/07brooks.html
If you look back at previous saeculum's you see similar trends happening during the 1910's and 1920's or the 1840's and 1850's for instance.
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Flocco is back up and running on a new server. It appears that some strange "draft" was leaked by his new webmaster alleging that Junior's handlers were preparing to fire Fitzgerald and that, the moment Junior acted, federal agents were set to arrest Junior. Here Flocco apologizes for the inadvertent leaking of this draft. But the "draft" is so sensational that it sure looks like a deliberate leak. Flocco is either breaking the greatest story of the century or he is being played like a fiddle by the Bush people (per their standard M.O.). Either way, this stuff is damned entertaining!


http://tomflocco.com/


Our changeover to a new Website location:

A rough draft story about the Chicago prosecutor being fired, including many paragraphs and a title that had long since been removed over the last 24 hours was placed online by a new webmaster who was collecting all the files from our previous website. He placed the rough draft file online by mistake and feels very badly about it. This was only a working draft and should never have been placed online. So we retract the rough draft post in its entirety.

The former website was experiencing problems during the past three weeks which I was unable to control, forcing a quick move to change the site's location. I am thankful that my new webmaster was the only person in the world to copy and capture all my past work and place it back online so that it would remain available to the public. And for that, I am very grateful to him.

I am paying for a logistical nightmare and quick changeover of story and working draft files in an effort to stay up online. In hindsight, I should have waited longer to make the old stories available again.

Withholding crucial evidence documents implicating possible treason

I was locked out of the posting editor of my website--making it impossible to directly post my own stories or news. My site administrator from WhiteStarWebsiteHosting did not answer my emails or phone calls requesting content page links for key documents going into the story, "Financial Terrorism Towers Over 9.11."

Two key links in that story contained documents indicating that Vice President Cheney received information that suspicious boxes of cash were being shipped out of the Philippines right after the September 11 attacks and that U.S. Asia Intel ops is of the opinion that one of the individuals in the White House-released Osama video met with an FBI Special Agent-in- charge 30 days after 9.11.

My former site administrator--WhiteStarWebsiteHosting--would not post or link those two documents despite my express mailing the original documents 10 days before they were needed; and then I sent another set of PDF files professionally produced by a local Kinko's copy store. WhiteStar said the two Cheney document files were "corrupt" and could not be used. I had www.StewWebb.com send replacement PDF files to WhiteStar but he would not link them into the explosive story; so I just linked the Cheney documents from Mr. Webb's site.

Another document in the story refers to former Treasury Secretary Robert Rubin and current Bush Assistant for Economic Policy Stephen Friedman as being allegedly aware of Goldman-Sachs bank fraud involving U.S. currency transfers involving $240 billion related to 10-year Brady bonds purchased in 1991 which came due the day after September 11, 2001!.

Moreover, he would not provide the PDF file and link for another very critical document we had obtained through V.K. Durham's website (www.theantechamber.net), indicating that current Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan and former Treasury Secretary Nicholas Brady had received packets from an individual allegedly linked to Goldman-Sachs bank fraud complaints just days before the illegal currency transfers which were connected to the Brady bonds.

At that point, I knew something was wrong, that higher-ups did not want those two documents publicized all over the world and that I had to move my website.

To compound the above PDF file link difficulties, my website statistics were vastly compromised according to statistics and links from other websites. I was also warned by an intelligence source that my web-host was an FBI Division 5 contractor or informant who had infiltrated the website without my knowledge. After that warning, I realized that my recent website difficulties were not an accident--especially since all that evidence had previously been provided to the grand jury by intelligence sources and whistleblowers.

The rough working draft about a fired prosecutor should never have been placed online and was in a batch of files transferred by the new webmaster and was posted by mistake.

We apologize for this inaccuracy; however, we still stand by our on-the record source Tom Heneghen and our story reporting that true bill indictments have been voted out by the Chicago grand jury against a host of Bush administration officials, and that Vice President Cheney, President Bush and Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice are aware that boxes of cash left the Philippines right after 9.11: "The 'family' want their boxes!!...Things are getting out of hand!...too much is in the wrong hands!"

We thank our readers for their patience as we work to straighten out the new lines of communication, and that I will soon be able to go back to posting my own stories on an editor without an intermediary. Again, we apologize for the inconvenience and for the rough draft posting mistake that was made.

Tom Flocco
"What went unforeseen, however, was that the elephant would at some point in the last years of the 20th century be possessed, in both body and spirit, by a coincident fusion of mutant ex-Liberals and holy-rolling Theocrats masquerading as conservatives in the tradition of Barry Goldwater and Ronald Reagan: Death by transmogrification, beginning with The Invasion of the Party Snatchers."

-- Victor Gold, Aide to Barry Goldwater







Post#10116 at 08-08-2005 10:15 PM by Zarathustra [at Where the Northwest meets the Southwest joined Mar 2003 #posts 9,198]
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Damn, Dawg. :shock:

I checked all the various articles on the site. Flocco is one paranoid dude. If he's even one-tenth right about what he's saying, we're screwed. Do you have any other sources about Bush family crime and such. I'm curious.
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THE FOURTH TURNING IS AT HAND.
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Quote Originally Posted by Peter Gibbons
Damn, Dawg. :shock:

I checked all the various articles on the site. Flocco is one paranoid dude. If he's even one-tenth right about what he's saying, we're screwed. Do you have any other sources about Bush family crime and such. I'm curious.
I don't keep up with this stuff. Try a Google search.
"What went unforeseen, however, was that the elephant would at some point in the last years of the 20th century be possessed, in both body and spirit, by a coincident fusion of mutant ex-Liberals and holy-rolling Theocrats masquerading as conservatives in the tradition of Barry Goldwater and Ronald Reagan: Death by transmogrification, beginning with The Invasion of the Party Snatchers."

-- Victor Gold, Aide to Barry Goldwater







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Quote Originally Posted by Seadog '66
Quote Originally Posted by Peter Gibbons
Damn, Dawg. :shock:
If he's even one-tenth right about what he's saying, we're screwed. Do you have any other sources about Bush family crime and such. I'm curious.
I don't keep up with this stuff. Try a Google search.
Slick advertising technique, aimed at the gullible. When you google, add the keyword "marketing" to "Flocco": He obviously has a backround in it. :wink:

p.s. Bold emphasis mine.







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Quote Originally Posted by Devil's Advocate
Quote Originally Posted by Seadog '66
Quote Originally Posted by Peter Gibbons
Damn, Dawg. :shock:
If he's even one-tenth right about what he's saying, we're screwed. Do you have any other sources about Bush family crime and such. I'm curious.
I don't keep up with this stuff. Try a Google search.
Slick advertising technique, aimed at the gullible. When you google, add the keyword "marketing" to "Flocco": He obviously has a backround in it. :wink:

p.s. Bold emphasis mine.
Your linked search doesn't tell me anything. The two "Tom Flocco" links don't work and could be about something in an article he's written. And it's not clear the top one is talking about the same Flocco. But then again, your "standards" are notoriously low.
Americans have had enough of glitz and roar . . Foreboding has deepened, and spiritual currents have darkened . . .
THE FOURTH TURNING IS AT HAND.
See T4T, p. 253.







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This story apparently came out in Newsweek's online edition on Sunday and is cited heavily by those pushing the "indictments" story. It states that the sole individual to whom Fitzgerald reports, Deputy Attorney General James Comey, is departing this week and, thus, someone new will be appointed to whom Fitzgerald will report in the future. It is stated that an "old friend" of Junior's, Associated Attorney General Robert McCallum, is "likely" to be appointed.



http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8853002/site/newsweek/

Leak Investigation: An Oversight Issue?

Aug. 15, 2005 issue - The departure this week of Deputy Attorney General James Comey, who has accepted the post of general counsel at Lockheed Martin, leaves a question mark in the probe into who leaked the identity of CIA operative Valerie Plame. Comey was the only official overseeing special counsel Patrick Fitzgerald's leak investigation. With Attorney General Alberto Gonzales recused, department officials say they are still trying to resolve whom Fitzgerald will now report to. Associate Attorney General Robert McCallum is "likely" to be named as acting deputy A.G., a DOJ official who asked not to be identified because of the sensitivity of the matter tells NEWSWEEK. But McCallum may be seen as having his own conflicts: he is an old friend of President Bush's and a member of his Skull and Bones class at Yale. One question: how much authority Comey's successor will have over Fitzgerald. When Comey appointed Fitzgerald in 2003, the deputy granted him extraordinary powers to act however he saw fit—but noted he still had the right to revoke Fitzgerald's authority. The questions are pertinent because lawyers close to the case believe the probe is in its final stages. Fitzgerald recently called White House aide Karl Rove's secretary and his former top aide to testify before the grand jury. They were asked why there was no record of a phone call from Time reporter Matt Cooper, with whom Rove discussed the CIA agent, says a source close to Rove who requested anonymity because the FBI asked participants not to comment. The source says the call went through the White House switchboard, not directly to Rove.

—Michael Isikoff

© 2005 Newsweek, Inc.
"What went unforeseen, however, was that the elephant would at some point in the last years of the 20th century be possessed, in both body and spirit, by a coincident fusion of mutant ex-Liberals and holy-rolling Theocrats masquerading as conservatives in the tradition of Barry Goldwater and Ronald Reagan: Death by transmogrification, beginning with The Invasion of the Party Snatchers."

-- Victor Gold, Aide to Barry Goldwater







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This was posted at one site with initial editorial comment:


http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=3439


Bush Plans to Fire Prosecuter
by Tom Flocco – August 7, 2005 TomFlocco.com

Update

Despite initial scepticism we posted the following. Now it appears that the following story has mutated once again with its appearance in Newsweek, as claimed. However Fitzgerald will not replaced by Robert McCallum, who is appointed as Fitzgerald supervisor from which position may be able to help out his old Skull & Bones buddy. Ed.



Sunday morning online editions of Newsweek and Time are reporting that the President is planning to fire Chicago's U.S. Federal Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald and replace him with a Bush classmate/Skull and Bonesman from Yale.

Following on the heels of these reports, we have learned from U.S. intelligence sources that federal agents are prepared to immediately arrest Mr. Bush if he fires Fitzgerald and seeks to obstruct justice and commit additional treasonous acts regarding ongoing grand jury proceedings against his administration and himself.

TomFlocco.com reported last week that Fitzgerald's grand jury voted out perjury and obstruction of justice "True Bills" or federal criminal indictments against President Bush, Vice-President Cheney, Attorney General Alberto Gonzalez, former Attorney General John Ashcroft, former CIA Director George Tenet, Presidential Senior Advisor Karl Rove, Presidential Chief of Staff Andrew Card, Vice-Presidential Chief of Staff I. "Scooter" Libby, imprisoned New York Times reporter Judith Miller and Vice-Presidential Senior Advisor Mary Matalin.

On Friday, federal whistleblower Tom Heneghen reported that the true bills also listed Supreme Court Chief Justice William Rehnquist and Justice Antonin Scalia as unindicted co-conspirators.

According to sources close to the grand jury, Fitzgerald's citizen panel is now able to prove that George W. Bush was not legitimately elected president in the 2000 election; but more importantly, it has fingered the United States Supreme Court for fraud, obstruction of justice and treason, making the Bush terms totally illegal.

The scope of the indictments and investigations indicates that the grand jury's indicted criminal acts reaching back to 2000 will lead to further legitimate assumptions that Bush-Cheney involvement in the 9.11 attacks and sending American young people to war based upon lies orchestrated by Mr. Bush and British Prime Minister Tony Blair are both squarely in the sights of the grand jury.
"What went unforeseen, however, was that the elephant would at some point in the last years of the 20th century be possessed, in both body and spirit, by a coincident fusion of mutant ex-Liberals and holy-rolling Theocrats masquerading as conservatives in the tradition of Barry Goldwater and Ronald Reagan: Death by transmogrification, beginning with The Invasion of the Party Snatchers."

-- Victor Gold, Aide to Barry Goldwater







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Like you said, this Flocco guy is either scooping the story of the century or he's finished.
Americans have had enough of glitz and roar . . Foreboding has deepened, and spiritual currents have darkened . . .
THE FOURTH TURNING IS AT HAND.
See T4T, p. 253.







Post#10123 at 08-09-2005 06:10 PM by Child of Socrates [at Cybrarian from America's Dairyland, 1961 cohort joined Sep 2001 #posts 14,092]
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Quote Originally Posted by Peter Gibbons
Like you said, this Flocco guy is either scooping the story of the century or he's finished.
This grand jury is going to bring charges concerning the legitimacy of the 2000 election? :shock: :shock:

Sorry, I find that very hard to believe.







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I'm seriously having difficulties trying to wrap my head around this "scandal" in the making. Reading the Flocco entries makes even Roswell and Area 51 appear mundance.

The problem I see is too many "things" are being associated with eachother: the 2000 election, 9/11, insider trading, the Coca-Cola corporation, Valerie Plame . . . you know, I think there is the condition of trying too hard to shoot the target.

Now if I want disturbing news, this is what I'd be looking at.
Right-Wing liberal, slow progressive, and other contradictions straddling both the past and future, but out of touch with the present . . .

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That is to say, we know there are some things we do not know." - Donald Rumsfeld







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Quote Originally Posted by Andy '85
I'm seriously having difficulties trying to wrap my head around this "scandal" in the making. Reading the Flocco...
Wrap harder. Like the Gibby-guy said, "If he's even one-tenth right about what he's saying, we're screwed."

Get it? 8)
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