INTJ born in '75. I score in the middle of the T/F scale and will switch to INFJ in certain circumstances which I find is a bit of an odd feeling (like my brain is switching to the next CD in the rack). INTJ most of the time.

I even have my star chart lying around somewhere, drawn up by a very boomer aunt when I was born.

Another Xer INTP, for what it's worth. Born in July, 1970. G.I. Father and Silent Mother.

I'm probably best described as a Conservative, maybe with some socialist leanings, but conservatism means something different in Europe than in the US, in fact, often the diametrically opposite.

You are an INTP (Introvert, Intuitive, Thinker, Perceiver)
INTPs represent between 3 and 5% of the U.S. population
Intensely intellectual and logical, INTPs are conceptual problem solvers and often show flashes of creative brilliance. Outwardly quiet, reserved, and detached, INTPs are inwardly absorbed in analyzing problems. They are critical, precise, and skeptical and are driven to find and use logical principles to understand their many ideas. They like conversation to be high level and purposeful and may argue to the point of hairsplitting just for fun. INTPs are convinced almost exclusively by logical reasoning.
They set high standards – for themselves and for others. INTP’s think in extremely complex ways and are generally better at organizing new concepts and ideas than at organizing other people. Highly independent, INTP’s tend to be more interested in finding creative solutions to problems than implementing them on the ground level.

This is probably somewhere in the last 1,000 posts or so but I thought I'd list it again in case anyone was interested:

Keirsey temperments and MBTI:

Artisans:
ISFP (artisan-composer)
ISTP (artisan-crafter)
ESFP (artisan-performer)
ESTP (artisan-promoter)

Guardians:
ISFJ (guardian-protector)
ESFJ (guardian-provider)
ISTJ (guardian-inspector)
ESTJ (guardian-supervisor)

Idealists:
ENFP (idealist-champion)
INFJ (idealist-counselor)
INFP (idealist-healer)
ENFJ (idealist-teacher)

Rationals:
INTP (rational-architect)
ENTJ (rational-fieldmarshal)
ENTP (rational-inventor)
INTJ (rational-mastermind)


I'm an ISFJ: Guardian-protector. Born 1970.

Originally Posted by BookishXer

This is probably somewhere in the last 1,000 posts or so but I thought I'd list it again in case anyone was interested:

Keirsey temperments and MBTI:

Artisans:
ISFP (artisan-composer)
ISTP (artisan-crafter)
ESFP (artisan-performer)
ESTP (artisan-promoter)

Guardians:
ISFJ (guardian-protector)
ESFJ (guardian-provider)
ISTJ (guardian-inspector)
ESTJ (guardian-supervisor)

Idealists:
ENFP (idealist-champion)
INFJ (idealist-counselor)
INFP (idealist-healer)
ENFJ (idealist-teacher)

Rationals:
INTP (rational-architect)
ENTJ (rational-fieldmarshal)
ENTP (rational-inventor)
INTJ (rational-mastermind)


I'm an ISFJ: Guardian-protector. Born 1970.

Hmmm - can we change the ENTJ to "conductor" instead of "field marshal"? Kinda hits close to home, ya know. And conductor sounds so much more benign. After all, we need people who can orchestrate others, don't you think?

James50

Originally Posted by James50

Hmmm - can we change the ENTJ to "conductor" instead of "field marshal"? Kinda hits close to home, ya know. And conductor sounds so much more benign. After all, we need people who can orchestrate others, don't you think?

James50

Far be it for me to rename Keirsey temperments, but I agree with your point. "Field marshal" has more of a clang than a ring to it.

As a matter of fact, I like the term "designer" better than "architect", and "patternmaster" even better.

Originally Posted by BookishXer

Far be it for me to rename Keirsey temperments, but I agree with your point. "Field marshal" has more of a clang than a ring to it.

Years ago I was in a large group setting where everyone took the MBTI test. After we were all scored, we were told to break up into 16 groups - one for each type. There were only two ENTJs. I was one and the other was a lady who is about 4'11" tall. She had long been called the "little general" by all who knew her.

James50

Originally Posted by James50

Hmmm - can we change the ENTJ to "conductor" instead of "field marshal"? Kinda hits close to home, ya know. And conductor sounds so much more benign. After all, we need people who can orchestrate others, don't you think?

James50

And I want to change one too. I'm ESFJ and would like change it to caregiver. That was the description I had originally read and it suits me better since I've spent the majority of my life raising kids (other people's, as well as, my own.)

Originally Posted by James50

Hmmm - can we change the ENTJ to "conductor" instead of "field marshal"? Kinda hits close to home, ya know. And conductor sounds so much more benign. After all, we need people who can orchestrate others, don't you think?

James50

The writer of that book fought in WWII and is an INTP.

Originally Posted by BookishXer

This is probably somewhere in the last 1,000 posts or so but I thought I'd list it again in case anyone was interested:

Keirsey temperments and MBTI:

Artisans:
ISFP (artisan-composer)
ISTP (artisan-crafter)
ESFP (artisan-performer)
ESTP (artisan-promoter)

Guardians:
ISFJ (guardian-protector)
ESFJ (guardian-provider)
ISTJ (guardian-inspector)
ESTJ (guardian-supervisor)

Idealists:
ENFP (idealist-champion)
INFJ (idealist-counselor)
INFP (idealist-healer)
ENFJ (idealist-teacher)

Rationals:
INTP (rational-architect)
ENTJ (rational-fieldmarshal)
ENTP (rational-inventor)
INTJ (rational-mastermind)


I'm an ISFJ: Guardian-protector. Born 1970.

Thanks,
I am an INTP.

It's about time one of the Newbies bumped this thread!

I'm an INFJ, by the way, as is obvious in my sig.

Originally Posted by Odin

It's about time one of the Newbies bumped this thread!

I'm an INFJ, by the way, as is obvious in my sig.

I've heard that term before, what does it mean please and how do you do it?

Myers-Briggs Type Indicator:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myers-B...Type_Indicator

A quick online test (actual, professionally administered tests are several hundred questions):

http://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/JTypes2.asp

The 16 different possible types:

http://www.typelogic.com/fa.html

It's kinda like your horoscope only more scientific.

Originally Posted by Copperfield

Myers-Briggs Type Indicator:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myers-B...Type_Indicator

A quick online test (actual, professionally administered tests are several hundred questions):

http://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/JTypes2.asp

The 16 different possible types:

http://www.typelogic.com/fa.html

It's kinda like your horoscope only more scientific.

Thanks buddy, but I meant the term "bump"...

Ha. Too much vodka.

"Bump" means to bump a stale thread to the top of the page.

Originally Posted by Copperfield

Ha. Too much vodka.

"Bump" means to bump a stale thread to the top of the page.

Actually, that applies double on this board. Every Forum has an active contents page, but many of us ignore them in favor of using the Quick Links, Todays Posts to search for what's hot.

Obviously, Today's Posts change a lot faster than the Forum lists, so a bump is only good if it attracts some activity.

Originally Posted by BookishXer

This is probably somewhere in the last 1,000 posts or so but I thought I'd list it again in case anyone was interested:

Keirsey temperments and MBTI:

Artisans:
ISFP (artisan-composer)
ISTP (artisan-crafter)
ESFP (artisan-performer)
ESTP (artisan-promoter)

Guardians:
ISFJ (guardian-protector)
ESFJ (guardian-provider)
ISTJ (guardian-inspector)
ESTJ (guardian-supervisor)

Idealists:
ENFP (idealist-champion)
INFJ (idealist-counselor)
INFP (idealist-healer)
ENFJ (idealist-teacher)

Rationals:
INTP (rational-architect)
ENTJ (rational-fieldmarshal)
ENTP (rational-inventor)
INTJ (rational-mastermind)


I'm an ISFJ: Guardian-protector. Born 1970.

Last time I took a Myers-Briggs test online, a few weeks back, I came out as an INTJ, which apparently makes me a rational-mastermind. I've gone back and forth between INTJ and ISTJ as long as I've been taking M-Bs, I'm pretty close to the border.

Mastermind... l like that much better than Inspector. Consider that what I do for a living-- designing roads-- suits me far better than inspecting the work of others.

So INTJ it is.

Originally Posted by Copperfield

Ha. Too much vodka.

"Bump" means to bump a stale thread to the top of the page.

S'ok, it's useful for us noobs to have the links repeated recently...

Originally Posted by Tone70

I am an ENTP. Extreme "E" and "P". Right in the middle on the "NT" component. I have occasionally tested ENFP recently. Maybe I'm getting nicer. Core silent parents. Birth year 1970.

Tone70

Omaha eh?

Prep 89

Originally Posted by antichrist

Omaha eh?

Prep 89

Funny, I did summer school there, prior to 9th grade. My jr. high mistakenly said I flunked the 8th, but prep would accept me if I went to summer school. Hearing a priest cuss was a real eye opener for this, at the time, sort of episcoplian.

I have to admit I'm a bit surprised by how many respondents are "IN--" personalities. I understand that certain kinds of topics/message boards might draw certain demographics...but, wow, so many Rationals.

I think it was Grey Badger who wrote that Nomads & Artists potentially undergo a personality shift in adulthood, the former starting life as Artisans and becoming Guardians, the latter progressing the opposite. I agree that personalities are dynamic and affected by environment.

Can anyone see a difference in how they might have been categorized as they entered sociological adulthood, say age 22, versus the present? Or how a significant life change, such as a death, move or professional fracture reshaped some of their natural propensities? I'm not big on too much self-reflection...I don't like that it too easily slips into self-absorption, but I will ponder now and then just how different a person I would be if certain variables either befell me or had missed me. It's humbling, makes a person less judgmental. Also has the potential to keep us from over-categorizing someone else.

Originally Posted by BookishXer

I have to admit I'm a bit surprised by how many respondents are "IN--" personalities. I understand that certain kinds of topics/message boards might draw certain demographics...but, wow, so many Rationals.

I think it was Grey Badger who wrote that Nomads & Artists potentially undergo a personality shift in adulthood, the former starting life as Artisans and becoming Guardians, the latter progressing the opposite. I agree that personalities are dynamic and affected by environment.

Can anyone see a difference in how they might have been categorized as they entered sociological adulthood, say age 22, versus the present? Or how a significant life change, such as a death, move or professional fracture reshaped some of their natural propensities? I'm not big on too much self-reflection...I don't like that it too easily slips into self-absorption, but I will ponder now and then just how different a person I would be if certain variables either befell me or had missed me. It's humbling, makes a person less judgmental. Also has the potential to keep us from over-categorizing someone else.

These types are dominant characteristics of each person and represent how we will react under stress. They are our superior functions. They do not usually change after maturity. They represent our hard wiring. But Jungians say that real insights in life comes when inferior functions are engaged. The N type will have an overwhelming S experience, or the T will be overcome with feelings, etc. We are gifted with our superior functions, but the work of life is to develop the inferior. Those seeking real wholeness will try to do this work.

James50

Originally Posted by BookishXer

I have to admit I'm a bit surprised by how many respondents are "IN--" personalities. I understand that certain kinds of topics/message boards might draw certain demographics...but, wow, so many Rationals.

I think it was Grey Badger who wrote that Nomads & Artists potentially undergo a personality shift in adulthood, the former starting life as Artisans and becoming Guardians, the latter progressing the opposite. I agree that personalities are dynamic and affected by environment.

Can anyone see a difference in how they might have been categorized as they entered sociological adulthood, say age 22, versus the present? Or how a significant life change, such as a death, move or professional fracture reshaped some of their natural propensities? I'm not big on too much self-reflection...I don't like that it too easily slips into self-absorption, but I will ponder now and then just how different a person I would be if certain variables either befell me or had missed me. It's humbling, makes a person less judgmental. Also has the potential to keep us from over-categorizing someone else.

I'm feeling totally out numbered on this board.

I'm an ESFJ born 1965.

I went back and read a description of my personality type. So does that mean that "IN's" are the opposite? Just curious about what the main characterists of of IN's are.

ESFJs are people persons - they love people. They are warmly interested in others. They use their Sensing and Judging characteristics to gather specific, detailed information about others, and turn this information into supportive judgments. They want to like people, and have a special skill at bringing out the best in others. They are extremely good at reading others, and understanding their point of view. The ESFJ's strong desire to be liked and for everything to be pleasant makes them highly supportive of others. People like to be around ESFJs, because the ESFJ has a special gift of invariably making people feel good about themselves.

ESFJs are warm and energetic. They need approval from others to feel good about themselves. They are hurt by indifference and don't understand unkindness. They are very giving people, who get a lot of their personal satisfaction from the happiness of others. They want to be appreciated for who they are, and what they give. They're very sensitive to others, and freely give practical care. ESFJs are such caring individuals, that they sometimes have a hard time seeing or accepting a difficult truth about someone they care about.

Originally Posted by ASB65

I'm feeling totally out numbered on this board.

You are. This is a pretty cerebral bunch - NT.

I'm an ESFJ born 1965.

I went back and read a description of my personality type. So does that mean that "IN's" are the opposite? Just curious about what the main characterists of of IN's are.

Opposite is a bit strong. You are gifted in a different way. One of the great things about the MBTI is that no matter what you are, you have a valuable and necessary place in the scheme of things. Each type is essential in a different way.

I am an ENTJ, my wife of 36 years is ISFJ (very close to you, you probably like parties more). I often tell people - I am in charge of the future, she is in charge of the present.

James50

Originally Posted by BookishXer

Can anyone see a difference in how they might have been categorized as they entered sociological adulthood, say age 22, versus the present?

Yea, since I started taking the MBTI I've tested as ENFP. The past two years I've tested as ENTP.

I'm 48, father of 3, farmer, public sector land resource manager and I am on the verge of completing a one year fellowship that was more difficult than graduate school ever thought of being.

No terrible things have fallen on me, but rather my life has changed by nature and my own choosing. I dont think it has to be lightening bolts from the sky or the death of a loved one that makes one change. I think it happens normally. Such would be (I think) expected if we look at the theory seriously.

I'm testing ENTP now, but who knows, possibly when I'm done doing research and finished writing articles and speaking I'll revert back to my ENFP of old. I take MBTI and DISC with the grains of salt they're delivered with.




Or how a significant life change, such as a death, move or professional fracture reshaped some of their natural propensities? I'm not big on too much self-reflection...I don't like that it too easily slips into self-absorption, but I will ponder now and then just how different a person I would be if certain variables either befell me or had missed me. It's humbling, makes a person less judgmental. Also has the potential to keep us from over-categorizing someone else.[/QUOTE]