Only nations like Israel and Switzerland could possibly support having one tenth of the populace be in uniform in some fashion or another. Even China, with all the people they could "use" doesn't have the resources to maintain such a large standing army, so applying this to the United States would not be a wise idea.

Besides, this opens up the other reason why national and economic collapses can be prevented because of a large armed force: military coups and juntas. Martial law can be a pretty powerful force.

Originally Posted by sean '90

Someone please do this for me. You've got simple directions.

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Originally Posted by Cynic Hero '86

Another policy of preventing national and economic collapse would be to increase the size of the armed forces. Many economic and social problems would be solved by maintaining a active duty force of 10-15 million troops and a reserve force of another 30 million. My proposal also includes the formation of a paramilitary internal security division which would field an additional 2-3 million troops.

WTF? OMG, you're nuts!!!! A military composed of 42 to 50 million people. That's about one-sixth of the entire country.

Originally Posted by Mikebert

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Never mind on posting it, I've got a thread about it on the forums on www.royaltymonarchy.com. Look for me there, I'm KY Monarchist!

The earlier saeculae listed by S & H occurred during The Early Modern period (as labeled by historians).

I expect that society will eventually relabel earlier eras. "Modern" really means, for practical purposes, the world as it is now. The Early Modern period recedes ever remoter into the past, and there may be significant change in the future, resulting in a different modernism.

When historians label periods in the histories of other civilizations, they sometimes use the term Classic. ...also Post-Classic for later eras.

I propose the term Classic for the Early Modern period. That would include the Renaissance/Reformation and the Enlightenment, the Age of Discovery, Shakespiere, the shift from a simple agrarian economy to mercantilism, the American and French Revolutions....

Melko subdivided the period into The Age of the Reformation and The Age of the Baroque.

Originally Posted by TimWalker

The earlier saeculae listed by S & H occurred during The Early Modern period (as labeled by historians).

I expect that society will eventually relabel earlier eras. "Modern" really means, for practical purposes, the world as it is now. The Early Modern period recedes ever remoter into the past, and there may be significant change in the future, resulting in a different modernism.

When historians label periods in the histories of other civilizations, they sometimes use the term Classic. ...also Post-Classic for later eras.

I propose the term Early Classic for the Early Modern period. That would include the Renaissance/Reformation and the Enlightenment, the Age of Discovery, Shakespiere, the shift from a simple agrarian economy to mercantilism, the American and French Revolutions....

I am considering the term Late Classic for the Victorian Age, which ended in the trenches of World War I.

I propose dividing the "Modern Era" into approximate periods:

Eomodern 1500-1750
Mesomodern 1750-1870
Opsimodern 1870-Now

With Postmodern being a parallel subdivision ("epoch") of Opsimodern begining c. 1960 with a view to it being a juvenile precursor to "what comes next" which can be labeled Transmodern for the time being.

Originally Posted by TimWalker

The earlier saeculae listed by S & H occurred during The Early Modern period (as labeled by historians).

I expect that society will eventually relabel earlier eras. "Modern" really means, for practical purposes, the world as it is now. The Early Modern period recedes ever remoter into the past, and there may be significant change in the future, resulting in a different modernism.

When historians label periods in the histories of other civilizations, they sometimes use the term Classic. ...also Post-Classic for later eras.

I propose the term Classic for the Early Modern period. That would include the Renaissance/Reformation and the Enlightenment, the Age of Discovery, Shakespiere, the shift from a simple agrarian economy to mercantilism, the American and French Revolutions....

Melko subdivided the period into The Age of the Reformation and The Age of the Baroque.

Good idea. The "Classical West" (not to be confused with the Classical Mediterranean) has a better ring to it then "Early-Modern West".

It also coincides well with the Classical revival that existed during that time.

The catch is that even the Crisis of 2020 seems a fog of possibilities. The farther into the future one tries to peer, the less definite it seems.

Originally Posted by Cynic Hero '86

My rationale for the policies mentioned earlier is simple: The formation of an anglophone union would unite the anglo-american world under one nation, one culture, one language, one ideology. The conquest of latin america and africa would have two benefits, first the securing of new industrial and mineral wealth for our nation and people, second it would provide the manpower nessesary for america to succeed in the greatest task our nation has ever faced; the conquest of china. China has been growing in an exponential rate, and may very well one day be in the position to challenge us in a hegemonic war. In order to forestall this future threat we will need the manpower of latin america at our back, and the resources of africa in order to wage a land war against the chinese. Diplomacy should bring japan and south korea at our side. Also a successful conquest would ensure american prosperity for many generations to come. China would provide the resources to ensure a healthy future for our people.

You stumbled across a copy of The Turner Diaries in a library or used book store, didn't you?

Originally Posted by Arkham '80

You stumbled across a copy of The Turner Diaries in a library or used book store, didn't you?

Ah, so Cynic Hero '86 is a racist, huh? He is a mortal enemy of mine now.

Originally Posted by Arkham '80

You stumbled across a copy of The Turner Diaries in a library or used book store, didn't you?

No, I am a pro-multiculturalist. By american dominance I meant that the US should use force to incorporate latin america and africa with the anglophone world into a greater oceanic cultural zone. I see a cultural connection between the anglophone world, latin america and africa. The US and the proposed anglophone union as the most powerful nation in this unified zone should naturally take up the role of unifiying our peoples politcally and economically. While this undertaking is taking place a strategic understanding should be negotiated with china. However china is a major long term threat. Once the incorporation of latin america and africa has occured, a campaign should be launched to end the threat posed by chinese Power.

Originally Posted by Cynic Hero '86

No, I am a pro-multiculturalist. By american dominance I meant that the US should use force to incorporate latin america and africa with the anglophone world into a greater oceanic cultural zone. I see a cultural connection between the anglophone world, latin america and africa. The US and the proposed anglophone union as the most powerful nation in this unified zone should naturally take up the role of unifiying our peoples politcally and economically. While this undertaking is taking place a strategic understanding should be negotiated with china. However china is a major long term threat. Once the incorporation of latin america and africa has occured, a campaign should be launched to end the threat posed by chinese Power.

You will need a lot of legions and a lot of proconsuls. The latter will be easy to find - just pay off all your political debts. The former? Have fun, amigo.

Originally Posted by Cynic Hero '86

No, I am a pro-multiculturalist. By american dominance I meant that the US should use force to incorporate latin america and africa with the anglophone world into a greater oceanic cultural zone. I see a cultural connection between the anglophone world, latin america and africa. The US and the proposed anglophone union as the most powerful nation in this unified zone should naturally take up the role of unifiying our peoples politcally and economically. While this undertaking is taking place a strategic understanding should be negotiated with china. However china is a major long term threat. Once the incorporation of latin america and africa has occured, a campaign should be launched to end the threat posed by chinese Power.

You are insane.


GOD SAVE THE QUEEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by sean '90

You are insane.


GOD SAVE THE QUEEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ROFLMAO! You can't make this stuff up.

Originally Posted by Cynic Hero '86

No, I am a pro-multiculturalist. By american dominance I meant that the US should use force to incorporate latin america and africa with the anglophone world into a greater oceanic cultural zone. I see a cultural connection between the anglophone world, latin america and africa. The US and the proposed anglophone union as the most powerful nation in this unified zone should naturally take up the role of unifiying our peoples politcally and economically. While this undertaking is taking place a strategic understanding should be negotiated with china. However china is a major long term threat. Once the incorporation of latin america and africa has occured, a campaign should be launched to end the threat posed by chinese Power.

You're going nuts, again.

Originally Posted by sean '90

GOD SAVE THE QUEEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

HER FASCIST REGIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!

[Johnny Rotten (Sex Pistols), circa 1977]

Originally Posted by Marx & Lennon

HER FASCIST REGIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!

[Johnny Rotten (Sex Pistols), circa 1977]

I more figured on the:

SHE AIN'T NO HUMAN BEING!!!!!!!!!

being the SP quote of choice.

to each his own, though...

Originally Posted by Cynic Hero '86

No, I am a pro-multiculturalist. By american dominance I meant that the US should use force to incorporate latin america and africa with the anglophone world into a greater oceanic cultural zone.

So the solution to world conquest is world conquest. Somehow I don't think Latin America is quite so eager for America to come back for even more dominance; they still are pissed about the United Fruit Company, the CIA coups, and in some places, about the Washington Consensus.

I, too, want an Oceanic Alliance to balance the rising Chinese power, but I hardly think conquest of the developing world is the answer here. There are already wargames that have occurred with an Indian-Australian-Singaporean-Japanese-American alliance. That sounds more realistic and workable to me. I don't think the term "Anglosphere" should necessarily be strict; it's more like an "Anglo-noo-sphere", the group of countries that think in the terms the French label "Anglo-Saxon": rule of law, robust defense against tyranny, individuality, representative democracy, capitalism in moderation, perhaps with social-democratic or regulatory elements, etc., etc. The countries involved in the naval exercises all have these elements (along with one more: access to / familiarity with salt water).

Originally Posted by catfishncod

So the solution to world conquest is world conquest.

We had to destroy the village to save it, sir.

Originally Posted by Marx & Lennon

HER FASCIST REGIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!

[Johnny Rotten (Sex Pistols), circa 1977]

FUCK JOHNNY ROTTEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HE SHOULD **** OFF IF HE DOESN't LIKE THE BRITISH MONARCHY, SINCE IT'S NOT EVER GOING AWAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by Justin '77

I more figured on the:

SHE AIN'T NO HUMAN BEING!!!!!!!!!

being the SP quote of choice.

to each his own, though...

Johnny Rotten is an evil sonuvabitch. May he burn in Hell!!!!!

Originally Posted by Cynic Hero '86

No, I am a pro-multiculturalist. By american dominance I meant that the US should use force to incorporate latin america and africa with the anglophone world into a greater oceanic cultural zone. I see a cultural connection between the anglophone world, latin america and africa. The US and the proposed anglophone union as the most powerful nation in this unified zone should naturally take up the role of unifiying our peoples politcally and economically. While this undertaking is taking place a strategic understanding should be negotiated with china. However china is a major long term threat. Once the incorporation of latin america and africa has occured, a campaign should be launched to end the threat posed by chinese Power.

Latin America is as much a part of the West as is either Europe or Anglo-America. The Native-American components of Latin American cultures are best described as 'local color', and it's hard to see what Mexicans with their partial Aztec heritage have in common with Peruvians with their partial Inca heritage except that that they have adopted from Europeans and their descendants -- such as the Spanish language.

Africans have had their experience with European domination and exploitation and don't want any return of it. They will have to pick and choose what they want from the Euro-American heritage, which means that we won't get to choose such on their behalf. To expect otherwise is to court disaster, and we are just lucky that South Africa didn't explode in a racist revolution.

Technology and science are no longer specifically Euro-American or "Western". Neither is democracy. Those are both as much Japanese, Indian, and (South) Korean. Somehow I predict that democracy will become very much an irreversible part of Chinese life within the next half-century... but that's a different story.

I concede that if the Islamic world ends up under some Napoleonic leader who seeks to impose Islam in places in which it isn't welcome (like southern Europe) we might need Africans on our side. We will get that help only if we let Africans be Africans. Persuasion is more difficult than force, but it proves far more effective and far less costly in the end.

Originally Posted by sean '90

Originally Posted by Marx & Lennon

HER FASCIST REGIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!

[Johnny Rotten (Sex Pistols), circa 1977]

FUCK JOHNNY ROTTEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! <mad faces deleted> HE SHOULD **** OFF IF HE DOESN't LIKE THE BRITISH MONARCHY, SINCE IT'S NOT EVER GOING AWAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by sean '90

Originally Posted by Justin '77

I more figured on the:

SHE AIN'T NO HUMAN BEING!!!!!!!!!

being the SP quote of choice.

to each his own, though...

Johnny Rotten is an evil sonuvabitch. May he burn in Hell!!!!!<mad faces deleted>

Justin, I won with "FUCK JOHNNY ROTTEN", 4 mad faces and all CAPS. I think sean got tired after his broadside on me, and you got less than your due.

Settle for a tie?

Originally Posted by pbrower2a

... Technology and science are no longer specifically Euro-American or "Western". Neither is democracy. Those are both as much Japanese, Indian, and (South) Korean. Somehow I predict that democracy will become very much an irreversible part of Chinese life within the next half-century... but that's a different story...

It's possible that the Chinese may, in fact, adopt a democratic model. They may also go on as they have for millenia. Democracy is a cultural overlay. It worked in Japan and South Korea because it was grafted-on to these cultures at a time their traditional cultures were stressed and defeated. I don't think that is ever likely to apply to the Chinese.