That's a long way of saying "bump."

http://www.desmogblog.com/schultes-a...ot-going-to-be

Bump!

Some debunking of anti-Global Warming claims in Investors Business Daily from Deltoid on ScienceBlogs.

The Washington Post had an article out on the collapse of Lobster Fishing in Long Island Sound. While they are not sure of the cause, both primary candidates are human related. There was a massive mosquito spraying along the Connecticut coast to stop West Nile at the height of the die off...

And of course, global warming. Lobsters require cold water, and just are not found south of Long Island Sound. For discussion purposes...

He continued: "What you can say is that the western Sound is at the southernmost range for [coastal] lobsters, and it's very likely that the impact of warming waters would be seen here first. I'd have to say that global warming, based on common sense, is the strongest argument."

Fish tales, counter the lobstermen. Even some lobster experts insist the coincidence of the 1999 catastrophic die-off occurring the same year as heavy pesticide spraying simply cannot be ignored.

I'm thinking warming seems to fit better. The insecticide use has dropped off, but the lobsters are not recovering. Still, the writers hint an complex scenarios with many factors contributing... without listing any of the other possible factors.

I'm further north, near Plymouth Massachusetts. I took a Whale Watch trip late this summer (Hi Roadbldr & Wonkette!) and noticed a big drop off in the number of lobster buoys around the entrance to Plymouth Harbor. They say lobstering is great around Maine, where the once almost too cold waters are now just right. Lobsters are doing great there. It looks like a classic case of a species migrating with the climate zones.

But I'm thinking of Julia Roberts' character from Mystic Pizza. The character's father was a lobsterman, which meant she was so sick of lobster she could barely eat it... The story was set in Mystic Seaport in Connecticut, in the new no lobster zone. Would they have to work this somehow into any sequel?

Could the crabs traditionally common around Maryland fill the void?

Everybody should know that pollution is wrong...Weren't you raised on that commercial with the ol' Injun bleeding his fucking heart out on the side of the street?

Originally Posted by Bob Butler 54

I took a Whale Watch trip late this summer (Hi Roadbldr & Wonkette!)

Well now, that was hilarious.

Originally Posted by The Rani

I never saw the one where he bled to death, just the one with a tear running down his face. The Lorax was better anyway.

If only he bled to death, I would have cummed onto the tv screen and thought of you. The Lorax would have provided a decent meal after the hard work of covering the tube.

Originally Posted by The Rani

Omigod, I don't think he meant it that way!

Rosine! Oh man...

Originally Posted by The Rani

That would have been a trick, since you were in your daddy's at the time yourself.

Rape is only funny when it's done on lesbians.

Originally Posted by The Rani

Your TV was a lesbian?

Ah, never mind. Looks like you're prematurely ejaculating all over this forum, and enough is enough.

I'll drown you, bitch.

I think I understand what Arkham was getting at.

Originally Posted by The Rani

Nah, all you've got is one of those crazy hoses where the water is turned on too strong and you can't control what you're spraying.

The greenhouse effect has got you hot under the collar? I'll remedy that.

Originally Posted by MichaelEaston

I think I understand what Arkham was getting at.

What you need is a good cry and some pills.

New_Waver, rape is a sin last time I checked.

Originally Posted by The Rani

Yeah I was gonna bring up the Catholic thing too, but then I realized that the conversation wasn't worth having.

Anyway, now it's adios muchacho, and good riddance at that.

Thank God!

Originally Posted by sean '90

Thank God!

Heheh, science be praised.

Originally Posted by The Rani

Omigod, I don't think he meant it that way!

Correct. Roadbldr and Wonkette were passing through New England visiting family and stuff. We got together to talk history and thought a Whale Watch was a fine way to get together.

I'm afraid that of the 4Ters that sailed that day, I'm the one that might possibly be mistaken for a whale.

We woke to this cheery bit of news as the headline of our State newspaper this morning. "Life Elevated" (Indeed!)is our new state tourism motto. Can we interest you in a sunny second home in Utah? How about a condo at one of our world famous ski resorts?

Bringing on prolonged drought, heat waves
Greenhouse pollution: Utah warming faster than global average
By Patty Henetz
The Salt Lake Tribune

Utah is responsible for more greenhouse gas emissions per capita than the rest of the nation. The state is warming faster than the global average. And if nothing changes, prolonged, extreme droughts and heat waves are virtually assured.

The grim findings released Tuesday in the final report from Gov. Jon Huntsman Jr.'s Blue Ribbon Advisory Council on Climate Change are bad news for coming generations. But they also underpin scores of suggestions for an action plan to shrink the state's carbon footprint, a goal the governor intends to pursue.

And that's the hard part. "Obviously we can't go out and do 70 things at once," said Dianne Nielson, Huntsman's energy policy adviser.

But with 200 options regarding energy supply, conservation, transportation, land use and building, the report provides a framework for legislation and rule changes - especially combined with an energy-efficiency strategy and renewable-energy initiative to be announced later this month.

Huntsman commissioned the report on Aug. 25, 2006, with the specific instruction that it include a scientific report that was not subject to the same debate as the rest of the issues the council undertook.

The report's eight authors include researchers from the University of Utah, Utah State University, Brigham Young University and the state Department of Natural Resources. It states without reservation that global warming is a fact and that human activity is responsible for most of the climate change that has occurred for the past half-century.

The findings for Utah in particular note that:
* The average temperature during the past decade was higher than observed during any other comparable period during the past century and about 2 degrees Fahrenheit higher than the 100-year average.
* The state is expected to warm more than the average for the entire globe, bringing fewer frosts, longer growing seasons and more heat waves.
* Greenhouse gas emissions at or above current levels will result in a decline in mountain snowpack and the threat of severe and prolonged droughts.
* Emissions in Utah amounted to nearly 80 million tons of carbon dioxide in 2005, about 1 percent of the nation's total. Each Utah resident contributes about 29 tons annually, slightly higher than the national average of 27.5 tons.
* Gross carbon-dioxide emissions in Utah are rising at a faster rate than the rest of the country. Statewide, emissions increased 40 percent between 1990 and 2005, compared to 16 percent nationwide.
* The main source of Utah's greenhouse gases is electricity use (37 percent), followed by transportation (25 percent) and all residential, commercial and industrial fossil fuel use combined (18 percent).

The findings led the advisory council to put energy development and use at the top of its priorities along with fire management, open space preservation, public education, climate adaptation, building efficiency and aggressive mass-transit strategies.

But the short deadline meant setting aside cost-benefit analyses of any specific policies, said Sarah Wright, executive director of Utah Clean Energy and a member of the advisory panel.

"There have to be policies that go forward, " she said. " "It's still really nebulous and you have to figure out how to draft legislation."
Nielson agreed. "Whatever the focus is, if there's more legislation or more authority required, we'll have those discussions," she said, promising the level of across-the-board participation that the council made possible.

Utah Mining Association director David Litvin, also an advisory council member, said that despite the array of policy attitudes on the council there was not any attempt to define one option being more desirable than others.

"We need all of it: coal, nuclear; we need oil, we need gas, hydro, geothermal," he said. "The mining community in Utah is prepared to work in a cooperative way . . . to ensure we have an effective policy in the state."



Report findings

* Greenhouse gas emissions at or above current levels will result in a decline in mountain snowpack and the threat of severe and prolonged droughts.
* Gross carbon-dioxide emissions in Utah are rising at a faster rate than the rest of the country. Statewide, emissions increased 40 percent between 1990 and 2005.
* The main source of Utah's greenhouse gases is electricity use (37 percent), followed by transportation (25 percent) and all residential, commercial and industrial fossil fuel use combined (18 percent).
* The most rapid temperature change is in the Arctic.


Gov. Jon Huntsman organized the Blue Ribbon Advisory Council on Climate Change to find a way to reduce the state's greenhouse gas emissions. Since Aug. 25, 2006, more than 100 people have worked to meet the governor's charge. Participants included scientists from Utah's top universities, state and federal government agencies, the Brigham Young University public policy program staffers and students, the Center for Climate Strategies, environmentalists, elected officials, business people, energy industry representatives, public utilities and community activists. After more than a year, the council has released a report listing measures the state and its residents can take to control carbon dioxide, the main contributor to global warming.

The report does not, however, include specific policy recommendations or rules to implement action

So you are a physician, huh, Rani? Proctology?

Nine Arrows->->->->->->->->-> or Nine Errors?????????

Originally Posted by BBC

Mr Justice Burton told London's High Court that distributing the film without the guidance to counter its "one-sided" views would breach education laws.

The Department for Children, Schools and Families was not under a duty to forbid the film, provided it was accompanied by the guidance, he said.
"I conclude that the claimant substantially won this case by virtue of my finding that, but for the new guidance note, the film would have been distributed in breach of sections 406 and 407 of the 1996 Education Act", he said.

The nine errors alleged by the judge included:

Mr Gore's assertion that a sea-level rise of up to 20 feet would be caused by melting of ice in either West Antarctica or Greenland "in the near future". The judge said this was "distinctly alarmist" and it was common ground that if Greenland's ice melted it would release this amount of water - "but only after, and over, millennia".

Mr Gore's assertion that the disappearance of snow on Mount Kilimanjaro in East Africa was expressly attributable to global warming - the court heard the scientific consensus was that it cannot be established the snow recession is mainly attributable to human-induced climate change.

Mr Gore's reference to a new scientific study showing that, for the first time, polar bears had actually drowned "swimming long distances - up to 60 miles - to find the ice". The judge said: "The only scientific study that either side before me can find is one which indicates that four polar bears have recently been found drowned because of a storm."

Originally Posted by jadams

So you are a physician, huh, Rani? Proctology?

Actually, she's a shrink. I can post a link, but I think that's a bad path to start down.

Originally Posted by New_Waver

If only he bled to death, I would have cummed onto the tv screen and thought of you. The Lorax would have provided a decent meal after the hard work of covering the tube.

What a thoroughly disgusting asshole. Is he truly banned, or is that just some clever trick? Here's to hoping for the former.

This says it all.

Originally Posted by Marx & Lennon

Actually, she's a shrink. I can post a link, but I think that's a bad path to start down.

Heavens to Betsy.

Originally Posted by Odin

This says it all.

Well yes. If all you have to say is, '"Whee! Look at my pictures! Colors and Lines!"

I mean, since they don't actually say anything about the causes of the change.

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though, now that I look, they do pretty well smash the validity of the curve-drawing equations. I mean, reality (the 'satellite' line) doesn't even fall inside the margin of error of the margins of error. So I guess that's something else that they say.