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Thread: Boomers Finally Get It?







Post#1 at 04-15-2007 12:57 PM by 1990 [at Savannah, GA joined Sep 2006 #posts 1,450]
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Boomers Finally Get It?

I just finished watching today's Meet the Press (I know, I know, stop snickering), and how did the roundtable discussion end, but with a discussion of Millies?

The panel was composed of Gwen Ifill, Eugene Robinson, David Brooks, and John Harwood discussing the impact of Imusgate on our culture. It was a rich discussion, and the panel all agreed on two things: first, that Imusgate is a sign that our culture really has deteriorated grossly, and second that "this younger generation" is more wholesome than their elders by all social measures: lower crime, lower drug use, higher grades, lower teen pregnancy, etc.

Until maybe a year ago, the media had always had a rather ignorant and judgmental view of the Millies: Columbine, hip-hop, baggy jeans, promiscuity and rampant sex. This was of course completely inaccurate and outdated. They seemed to assume we were Xers 2.0.

Now, suddenly everybody considers us the Christ Children.

Regeneracy, here we come.
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Post#2 at 04-15-2007 03:55 PM by Millennial_90' [at joined Jan 2007 #posts 253]
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Quote Originally Posted by 1990 View Post
I just finished watching today's Meet the Press (I know, I know, stop snickering), and how did the roundtable discussion end, but with a discussion of Millies?

The panel was composed of Gwen Ifill, Eugene Robinson, David Brooks, and John Harwood discussing the impact of Imusgate on our culture. It was a rich discussion, and the panel all agreed on two things: first, that Imusgate is a sign that our culture really has deteriorated grossly, and second that "this younger generation" is more wholesome than their elders by all social measures: lower crime, lower drug use, higher grades, lower teen pregnancy, etc.

Until maybe a year ago, the media had always had a rather ignorant and judgmental view of the Millies: Columbine, hip-hop, baggy jeans, promiscuity and rampant sex. This was of course completely inaccurate and outdated. They seemed to assume we were Xers 2.0.

Now, suddenly everybody considers us the Christ Children.

Regeneracy, here we come.
Interesting you mention this, because PBS recently showed a documentary on Millenials titled Generation Next. I've noticed that the Media is starting to gain more interest in us. S&H did predict that the years between 2007 and 2012 would be our breakout years, and so far they seem to be right on the money. We can expect to see more attention during the 08' Presidential Election (our votes may determine who wins). Perhaps we are witnessing the begginnings of Millenial-mania?

Don't get your hopes up about the regeneracy...I don't think we'll witness a full-fledged regeneracy until the 2010s







Post#3 at 05-19-2007 03:57 AM by Jesse Manoogian [at The edge of the world in all of Western civilization joined Oct 2001 #posts 448]
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Quote Originally Posted by 1990 View Post
I just finished watching today's Meet the Press (I know, I know, stop snickering), and how did the roundtable discussion end, but with a discussion of Millies?

The panel was composed of Gwen Ifill, Eugene Robinson, David Brooks, and John Harwood discussing the impact of Imusgate on our culture. It was a rich discussion, and the panel all agreed on two things: first, that Imusgate is a sign that our culture really has deteriorated grossly, and second that "this younger generation" is more wholesome than their elders by all social measures: lower crime, lower drug use, higher grades, lower teen pregnancy, etc.
Not by ALL measures. Millennials did bring about a rise in teen drug use starting in 1997 that was still going on in 2003 (when 1987 cohorts were turning 16).
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Post#4 at 08-27-2007 11:37 AM by Brian Beecher [at Downers Grove, IL joined Sep 2001 #posts 2,937]
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Breakout Years

By all accounts the Millie breakout years will be different from those of the Boomers during the late 60's/early 70's time frame. For one thing, so far at least, youthful Millies, with rare exceptions, have not been the hotheads that many of the Boomers were during their youth. Funny things about that time was that the hothead and peace and love camps seemed to co-exist.

There have been protests against the Iraq war, but they have been fewer than the ones against Vietnam were, and for the most part less organized. Like it or not, many on this forum have said that we will see no return to the 1960's mentality from Millies, and that they will more than likely change society from within rather than from without, which is the way Boomers did it.







Post#5 at 08-27-2007 01:35 PM by Bria67Xer [at Harrisburg, PA joined May 2007 #posts 339]
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We can only hope that Millies won't be like the Boomers during their breakout years. One Awakening cycle a century is enough.

I know it's been predicted by S & H that Millennials will receive a lot of media attention during their break-out years. But, isn't it ironic that the primary parents of this generation are, basically, now in charge of the media? It's almost like an entire generation bragging about their own kids to the world. The media basically tells this nation what to think and shapes the way many of you view the world and issues. So, in a way, people will receive their impression of Millennials on how the media tells them what to think about Millennials. Since Hero generations are mainly parented by Idealist generations, their break-out years are always heralded from the rooftops. This will be no different.

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Post#6 at 10-01-2007 07:42 PM by New_Waver [at joined Sep 2007 #posts 458]
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Quote Originally Posted by 1990 View Post
I just finished watching today's Meet the Press (I know, I know, stop snickering), and how did the roundtable discussion end, but with a discussion of Millies?

The panel was composed of Gwen Ifill, Eugene Robinson, David Brooks, and John Harwood discussing the impact of Imusgate on our culture. It was a rich discussion, and the panel all agreed on two things: first, that Imusgate is a sign that our culture really has deteriorated grossly, and second that "this younger generation" is more wholesome than their elders by all social measures: lower crime, lower drug use, higher grades, lower teen pregnancy, etc.

Until maybe a year ago, the media had always had a rather ignorant and judgmental view of the Millies: Columbine, hip-hop, baggy jeans, promiscuity and rampant sex. This was of course completely inaccurate and outdated. They seemed to assume we were Xers 2.0.

Now, suddenly everybody considers us the Christ Children.

Regeneracy, here we come.
...And I'm the bad guy, for having dim views of "Millies"? So, what's wrong with X?
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