Originally Posted by Roadbldr '59

Generally speaking, my experience has been that it's women who are in fact the ones hoping to "weasel by". They choose men who aren't in a big hurry to commit (for whatever reason that may be), so that they themselves don't have to right away. Indeed, if you should meet a woman like my ex wife who wants to get married next month, I'd give her a wide berth (cut-and-paste golddigger reference here).

If anyone you're dating wants to get married next month, I'd give him or her a very wide berth. Something is afoot, and it's a game you're probably not about to win or possibly even survive.


Speaking of exes, I just heard through the grapevine that mine just got married for the third time. That, even after putting on an extra three or four sacks of flour. The poor schmuck... I don't even know him, but I already feel his pain!

I understand completely. My ex once asked, tentatively, in fear and trembling, what I'd do if he found another. I said that I would, in a spirit of pure sisterhood and compasion, send her a sympathy card.

Originally Posted by herbal tee

...I've recovered slowly, with romance being on the back burner. However, I met a core X'er woman a couple of months ago whose outlook is so brightly positive that she's almost a preseasonal millie. And she really seems to like me a lot.

My view of women is slowly becoming less caustic over time. But I'm not in any hurry to plan a future. Fortunately, she doesn't seem to be either. :

Glad to hear things are looking brighter! Those 'X'er women are really wonderful! ha ha ...What's the hurry, I heard the 'Divorce rates crashing!' All the best w ur new mate HT

Originally Posted by wanderer

Glad to hear things are looking brighter! Those 'X'er women are really wonderful! ha ha ...What's the hurry, I heard the 'Divorce rates crashing!' All the best w ur new mate HT

On, no hurries at all. As roadbldr noted, if she is too hurried, it's time to hurry away from her. I was there once and I'm glad that I got out in time.Happily, that's not the case here.

Originally Posted by herbal tee

On, no hurries at all. As roadbldr noted, if she is too hurried, it's time to hurry away from her. I was there once and I'm glad that I got out in time.Happily, that's not the case here.

Me too. I'd say my luck couldn't have been any better, actually. No kids, joint bank accounts, no property together... which meant no child support, no alimony, and I didn't have to split or share diddly. I didn't have to even show up at the divorce proceedings... my lawyer simply filled me in when the deed was done.

It's funny... the first sign of trouble was worthy of a Hollywood dark comedy. Our wedding day was January 20, 2001!

Originally Posted by Roadbldr '59

Me too. I'd say my luck couldn't have been any better, actually. No kids, joint bank accounts, no property together... which meant no child support, no alimony, and I didn't have to split or share diddly. I didn't have to even show up at the divorce proceedings... my lawyer simply filled me in when the deed was done.

It's funny... the first sign of trouble was worthy of a Hollywood dark comedy. Our wedding day was January 20, 2001!

I'm so sorry. Make sure to plan your next marriage (if there is one) for an advantageous date. How about December 21, 2012?

Originally Posted by 1990

I'm so sorry. Make sure to plan your next marriage (if there is one) for an advantageous date. How about December 21, 2012?

What's special about that date?

Originally Posted by The Wonkette

What's special about that date?

Its the Mayan Calender date on which the world will come to an end

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mayan_l...the_Long_Count

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012#Ap...ic_predictions

Originally Posted by Millennial_90'

Its the Mayan Calender date on which the world will come to an end

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mayan_l...the_Long_Count

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012#Ap...ic_predictions

O kaay.

Just as with 1984, I guess we'll have to see what happens when we get there. Does this mean that we could still have up to five more years of 3t mish-mash before we get to an enlightenment? If so, this would put the current 3T at an extra long 28 years in length.

I'm thinking 2012 is going to be the start of the Social Moment sensu stricto within the 4T, when the Regeneracy (which I'm assuming will occur in 2008 if S&Hs hypothesis that the pre-regeneracy period is between 1-5 years long) fully "sets" (kind of like how it took FDR a few years to get around the reactionaries in the SCOTUS).

Originally Posted by Brian Beecher

Just as with 1984, I guess we'll have to see what happens when we get there. Does this mean that we could still have up to five more years of 3t mish-mash before we get to an enlightenment? If so, this would put the current 3T at an extra long 28 years in length.

Heh. We're 4T, but we have a lot more than 5 years to go before we reach enlightenment. Speaking for myself only, of course.

We may be 4T, but so far it is the equivalent of the mild winter days in the 40's in midwestern climes. I wonder if we may not see the saecular equivalent of sub-zero days until the sacular equivalent of February.

On the divorce issue, I believe that the epidemic may have been at least partly in response to the mostly hidden pathologies of the 1950's and 1960's. There were a lot of cases of things such as alcoholism affecting marriages at that time, but they didn't really come out of the closet until the advent of the more liberal social norms of the 1970's, along with the women's liberation movement. But yet I've always said that the issue of two-career households is 9 parts economic and only 1 part women's lib.

I have no exes as I have, for better or worse, remained single for my entire life up to this point. In the early 2000's I had a three-year relationship with a woman who was in a hurry to get married. We later split up mostly over that issue. Yet I still hear from her on occasion and has since apologized for putting me through that pressure. And she was such a good person in many other ways that it probably is a mistake I'll take to the grave with me.

One of the reasons I stayed single is because of the high divorce rate at the time and the anguish that goes along with it in most case. True, there are some cases of the "better friends than lovers" syndrome, but they are no doubt rare. Have many of us forgotten the days when we were led to believe that remaining single and footloose and having as few responsibilities as possible was the way to go? Seems that since then most of us have become overburdened with responsibilities, much more so than the families of the 1950's were.

To continue Brian's analogy, I know that as far inland as New Mexico is, I consider Groundhog Day to be the day when "if it hasn't gotten any colder, it won't." Likewise, August 1st is about the time when "If it hasn't gotten any hotter, then it won't." So I totally understand. This is one of those winters we slowly sneak into, but there may still be a major blizzard roaring down from the north around Yuletide.

As for where we are, still metaphorically? 9/11/2001 was October 31st and 8/25/2005 was Thanksgiving. Yuletide is this November's election plus whatever happens between then and the inauguration.

Apres Bush, le deluge.

Originally Posted by Brian Beecher

We may be 4T, but so far it is the equivalent of the mild winter days in the 40's in midwestern climes. I wonder if we may not see the saecular equivalent of sub-zero days until the sacular equivalent of February.

On the divorce issue, I believe that the epidemic may have been at least partly in response to the mostly hidden pathologies of the 1950's and 1960's. There were a lot of cases of things such as alcoholism affecting marriages at that time, but they didn't really come out of the closet until the advent of the more liberal social norms of the 1970's, along with the women's liberation movement. But yet I've always said that the issue of two-career households is 9 parts economic and only 1 part women's lib.

I have no exes as I have, for better or worse, remained single for my entire life up to this point. In the early 2000's I had a three-year relationship with a woman who was in a hurry to get married. We later split up mostly over that issue. Yet I still hear from her on occasion and has since apologized for putting me through that pressure. And she was such a good person in many other ways that it probably is a mistake I'll take to the grave with me.

One of the reasons I stayed single is because of the high divorce rate at the time and the anguish that goes along with it in most case. True, there are some cases of the "better friends than lovers" syndrome, but they are no doubt rare. Have many of us forgotten the days when we were led to believe that remaining single and footloose and having as few responsibilities as possible was the way to go? Seems that since then most of us have become overburdened with responsibilities, much more so than the families of the 1950's were.

If you don't have a nickel in your pocket to call your own, the chances are much greater that you'll go back to work as son as the kids are in school, than if your purse is overflowing with liquid assets.

Just my own $0.02 out of my own experience, which was, I admit, well over 30 years ago.

Pat, with a fairly comfortable independence at last, if not exactly a fortune.