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Post#26 at 07-26-2007 12:47 PM by Matt1989 [at joined Sep 2005 #posts 3,018]
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It's 12:45 and the stock market is down 315 points!







Post#27 at 07-26-2007 12:52 PM by Matt1989 [at joined Sep 2005 #posts 3,018]
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Quote Originally Posted by Odin View Post
I have all the Civ games except for the first. I sear, they are the computer game version of crack. The Total War games are good, too, as are the Europa Universalis series.
Explain to me why Civ IV is great. I can see crack, but most good video games act as crack. It's fun building up your cities and going through the different economic systems and culture stuff, but the rest appears to be so-so. The realism aspect is lacking, too. Where are the exciting battles of Total War or the race through the different ages in AOE?

It's a good game, but it's lacking the tools that push it up to the next level, as far as I can see.







Post#28 at 07-28-2007 07:03 PM by DonRobbie [at joined May 2007 #posts 124]
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Quote Originally Posted by The Rani View Post
It's like the Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon. Everything can be linked to Bush. I think that would be a better game to play.

I'll start. Link the following problems to Bush, if you can, in six steps or less ...

Tooth decay

Poor cell phone reception

California wildfires

Bad hair day
Entirely too easy.
Global warming, which Bush did nothing about, is probably behind the the drought which led to the California wildfires, which have no doubt burned a few cell phone towers and caused people to flee their homes without time to round up the toothbrushes and hair care products.

Do I get a sucker?
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Post#29 at 07-28-2007 07:11 PM by DonRobbie [at joined May 2007 #posts 124]
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Quote Originally Posted by herbal tee View Post
I used to be a big Sim City 3000 fan. I built maybe 30 cities in all. On the first couple of cities I learned the basics and then sought to build the biggest cities populationwise that I could. Sometimes I would create my own geography and sometimes I would use a real city terrian. My Los Angleles, based on the real city terrian was my largest city at over 1.7 million.

I actually bought Sim City 4 but found it to be a lesser game. The idea of regioal interaction between the cities is a good one, but the game took too long to load and it moved too slow. Also, there wasn't snough flexability in the boundries. IOW, your 'center city' was often no larger in land area than most of the suburbs. If you're looking for realism, that's not an ignorable flaw. In addition to creating your own regions, one should have been given the ability to presize the boundries and, in the case of existing regions, resize them.

It doesn't look like EA will come out with another edition of this game, but if they did one with the flexability of the 3000 and the regionalism of 4 would be good. I suspect that as computer tech has continued to progress, slowness need not be as big an issue in a future edition.
I have Sim City 4 (and still have 2000 and 3000 someplace) but it's too slow for me as well. By the time I get anything built up a few hours are gone and the game is crawling. I imagine when I get a Quad Core iMac in a couple of years with 4 gig or so of RAM I might have enough of a machine to make it playable.

My favorite pick it up and play for half an hour or so game is "Spaceward Ho". It's not that much of a challenge (I'm still playing the demo) but it's a nice little strategy game that lets me conquer the universe in my spare time.
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Post#30 at 07-28-2007 08:52 PM by The Grey Badger [at Albuquerque, NM joined Sep 2001 #posts 8,876]
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Quote Originally Posted by DonRobbie View Post
I have Sim City 4 (and still have 2000 and 3000 someplace) but it's too slow for me as well. By the time I get anything built up a few hours are gone and the game is crawling. I imagine when I get a Quad Core iMac in a couple of years with 4 gig or so of RAM I might have enough of a machine to make it playable.

My favorite pick it up and play for half an hour or so game is "Spaceward Ho". It's not that much of a challenge (I'm still playing the demo) but it's a nice little strategy game that lets me conquer the universe in my spare time.
These days "Spaceward Ho" would only recall the Companion in Firefly to all too many minds.
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Post#31 at 07-28-2007 10:12 PM by zilch [at joined Nov 2001 #posts 3,491]
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Quote Originally Posted by MichaelEaston View Post
It's 12:45 and the stock market is down 315 points!
That's because, like you said, Bush sucks.
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Post#32 at 07-28-2007 10:23 PM by zilch [at joined Nov 2001 #posts 3,491]
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Quote Originally Posted by DonRobbie View Post
Global warming, which Bush did nothing about, is probably behind the the drought...
Al Gore wrote "Earth in the Balance" in 1992, and predicted dire consequences for us all in ten years time, if we didn't act "now." How many droughts, forest fires, devastating heat-waves and hurricanes came and went during the time Democrats were running the show for those ten years, buddy?

You all are such phony-baloney crisis suckers. Hell, ya'all make chicken-little and the little boy who cried wolf look like national heroes.







Post#33 at 07-29-2007 12:01 PM by DonRobbie [at joined May 2007 #posts 124]
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Quote Originally Posted by zilch View Post
Al Gore wrote "Earth in the Balance" in 1992, and predicted dire consequences for us all in ten years time, if we didn't act "now." How many droughts, forest fires, devastating heat-waves and hurricanes came and went during the time Democrats were running the show for those ten years, buddy?

You all are such phony-baloney crisis suckers. Hell, ya'all make chicken-little and the little boy who cried wolf look like national heroes.
Dude, take your meds and it'll all be okay, Okay?
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Post#34 at 07-29-2007 12:07 PM by DonRobbie [at joined May 2007 #posts 124]
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Quote Originally Posted by The Rani View Post
I don't think the dude was trying to give a serious answer ... but ... I could be wrong.
It wasn't a serious answer. I looked at the list, had an aha! moment and transcribed from neurons to electrons.
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Post#35 at 07-29-2007 03:23 PM by jadams [at the tropics joined Feb 2003 #posts 1,097]
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Quote Originally Posted by The Rani View Post
Yeah I thought Zilch misinterpreted that one. But I think his comments were actually directed at others here anyway, not you specifically.
Always to the rescue! Is it because you agree with him or because you have that special cognitive link with him you were describing in some other thread?
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Post#36 at 08-02-2007 03:21 PM by Matt1989 [at joined Sep 2005 #posts 3,018]
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Can anyone link Bush to the bridge collapsing?







Post#37 at 08-02-2007 03:38 PM by zilch [at joined Nov 2001 #posts 3,491]
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Unhappy Bush lied people died... everywhere.

Quote Originally Posted by MichaelEaston View Post
Can anyone link Bush to the bridge collapsing?
No brainer there, in the Katrina thread its been duly noted that had Bush not wasted all that cash on infrastructure in Iraq, those folks in Minnesota would still be alive today.







Post#38 at 08-02-2007 04:30 PM by Bob Butler 54 [at Cove Hold, Carver, MA joined Jul 2001 #posts 6,431]
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Quote Originally Posted by The Rani View Post
Actually neither. Just didn't want the other dude to feel attacked. I know how much that can suck, especially when one isn't even trying to create a ruckus.
When is Zilch not trying to create a ruckus?







Post#39 at 08-02-2007 05:08 PM by The Wonkette [at Arlington, VA 1956 joined Jul 2002 #posts 9,209]
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Quote Originally Posted by The Rani View Post
Somtimes I wonder if you and I are actually speaking the same language.

I was talking about the other dude, not zilch.

Anyway, I think I saw a photo with Dick Cheney and a shotgun climbing up the bank of the Mississippi yesterday.
Hurry -- run, duck, and hide!

Maybe Cheney shot down that MN bridge.
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Post#40 at 08-02-2007 05:12 PM by Odin [at Moorhead, MN, USA joined Sep 2006 #posts 14,442]
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Quote Originally Posted by MichaelEaston View Post
Can anyone link Bush to the bridge collapsing?
Not Bush, but Governor "I will veto any necessary tax increases and spending bills" Pawlenty sure can.
To recommend thrift to the poor is both grotesque and insulting. It is like advising a man who is starving to eat less.

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Post#41 at 08-02-2007 11:34 PM by Matt1989 [at joined Sep 2005 #posts 3,018]
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Quote Originally Posted by Odin View Post
Not Bush, but Governor "I will veto any necessary tax increases and spending bills" Pawlenty sure can.
That's no use.







Post#42 at 08-02-2007 11:34 PM by Matt1989 [at joined Sep 2005 #posts 3,018]
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Quote Originally Posted by zilch View Post
No brainer there, in the Katrina thread its been duly noted that had Bush not wasted all that cash on infrastructure in Iraq, those folks in Minnesota would still be alive today.
Thanks! I'll go impress my friends now.







Post#43 at 08-04-2007 03:40 AM by '58 Flat [at Hardhat From Central Jersey joined Jul 2001 #posts 3,300]
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Quote Originally Posted by zilch View Post
No brainer there, in the Katrina thread its been duly noted that had Bush not wasted all that cash on infrastructure in Iraq, those folks in Minnesota would still be alive today.

Another perfect example of obsessive Bush hatred causing total blindness.

This is the party line that is coming out of the Daily Kos.

Tragically, the left is missing a chance to make a real point here: If the aforementioned web site was "The Daily Brancato" (!) instead, you'd be hearing all about how the tsunami of selfishness sired by California's Proposition 13, and stoked shamelessly by Ronald Reagan, is responsible for the Minnesota tragedy - and that of Katrina too.

But of course the left can't get beyond its twin bete noirs - Bush and Iraq.

Chalk up one more missed opportunity.
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But maybe if the putative Robin Hoods stopped trying to take from law-abiding citizens and give to criminals, take from men and give to women, take from believers and give to anti-believers, take from citizens and give to "undocumented" immigrants, and take from heterosexuals and give to homosexuals, they might have a lot more success in taking from the rich and giving to everyone else.

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Post#44 at 08-04-2007 07:21 PM by Odin [at Moorhead, MN, USA joined Sep 2006 #posts 14,442]
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Quote Originally Posted by Anthony '58 II View Post
Another perfect example of obsessive Bush hatred causing total blindness.

This is the party line that is coming out of the Daily Kos.

Tragically, the left is missing a chance to make a real point here: If the aforementioned web site was "The Daily Brancato" (!) instead, you'd be hearing all about how the tsunami of selfishness sired by California's Proposition 13, and stoked shamelessly by Ronald Reagan, is responsible for the Minnesota tragedy - and that of Katrina too.

But of course the left can't get beyond its twin bete noirs - Bush and Iraq.

Chalk up one more missed opportunity.
There are plenty of folks on DU (myself included) that were pointing our fingers at the 3T selfishness and rot championed by Reagan.
To recommend thrift to the poor is both grotesque and insulting. It is like advising a man who is starving to eat less.

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Post#45 at 08-04-2007 08:48 PM by sean '90 [at joined Jul 2007 #posts 1,625]
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Quote Originally Posted by The Wonkette View Post
Hurry -- run, duck, and hide!

Maybe Cheney shot down that MN bridge.
Absolutely impossible! Plus, we would've heard reports on the news media about a terroist attack.
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