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Post#1 at 10-27-2007 01:22 AM by Linus [at joined Oct 2005 #posts 1,731]
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Burma

in the news:

Poor health care system plagues Myanmar

also plaguing Mynamar: a brutally repressive military dictatorship.
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Post#2 at 10-27-2007 05:04 PM by sean '90 [at joined Jul 2007 #posts 1,625]
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Shoot the junta bastards and give the King of Burma his rightful throne back!







Post#3 at 10-27-2007 05:23 PM by 1990 [at Savannah, GA joined Sep 2006 #posts 1,450]
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Quote Originally Posted by sean '90 View Post
Shoot the junta bastards and give the King of Burma his rightful throne back!
Okay, now you're just spamming. I agree the junta needs to be taken down, but can we talk about Burma without Tourette's?
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Post#4 at 10-27-2007 06:36 PM by Matt1989 [at joined Sep 2005 #posts 3,018]
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Ah, there's the word. LOL.







Post#5 at 10-27-2007 10:56 PM by Bria67Xer [at Harrisburg, PA joined May 2007 #posts 339]
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So, would we say that Burma is in a Crisis Cycle or an Unraveling one?







Post#6 at 10-27-2007 11:26 PM by Matt1989 [at joined Sep 2005 #posts 3,018]
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Unraveling. 88' certainly took place during an awakening, but this recent "conflict" fizzled out.







Post#7 at 10-28-2007 07:38 PM by sean '90 [at joined Jul 2007 #posts 1,625]
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Quote Originally Posted by 1990 View Post
Okay, now you're just spamming. I agree the junta needs to be taken down, but can we talk about Burma without Tourette's?
I support the restoration of the Burmese monarchy from the evil socialist State Peace and Development Council, dude. eath to Than Shwe.







Post#8 at 11-13-2015 05:48 PM by pbrower2a [at "Michigrim" joined May 2005 #posts 15,014]
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I didn't expect this:

Quote Originally Posted by Wikipedia
General elections were held in Myanmar on 8 November 2015. Voting occurred in all constituencies, excluding seats appointed by the military, to select Members of Assembly to seats in both the upper house (the House of Nationalities) and the lower house (the House of Representatives) of the Assembly of the Union, and State and Region Hluttaws.

These polls are the first openly-contested election held in the country since 1990. Official results released by 13 November gave the National League for Democracy an absolute majority of seats in both chambers of the national parliament, well more than the 67 percent it needed to ensure that its candidate would become president. While NLD leader Aung San Suu Kyi is constitutionally barred from the presidency (since she is the widow of a foreigner), she has let it be known that she will hold the real power in any NLD-led government.

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On 13 November 2015, the Union Election Commission announced results that increase the total number of seats held by the National League for Democracy in the Pyithu Hluttaw to 238, and the total number of seats in the Pyidaungsu Hluttaw to 348, surpassing the number of seats needed (50% + 1 for a total of 329, including seats cancelled in the election) to be the majority party in the National Assembly. With these seats, the NLD now has enough votes to elect the next President of Myanmar. The NLD's seat gains later extended to both houses of parliament, which give it control over national legislation, as well as the passing of bills.

168 of the 224 seats in the Amyotha Hluttaw (House of Nationalities) were up for election. The remaining 56 seats (25%) were not elected, and instead reserved for military appointees (taken from Tatmadaw personnel; officially known as "Army Representatives").

330 of the 440 seats in the Pyithu Hluttaw (House of Representatives) were up for election. The remaining 110 seats (25%) were not elected, and instead reserved for military appointees (taken from Tatmadaw personnel; officially known as "Army Representatives").
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myanma...election,_2015

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The National League for Democracy (NLD) has absolute majorities in both Houses of Parliament. It can rule -- so long as the military lets the NLD rule. Of course, the country is Burma/Myanmar, and the military has frequently intervened to thwart the results of democratic elections.
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Post#9 at 11-13-2015 07:35 PM by Odin [at Moorhead, MN, USA joined Sep 2006 #posts 14,442]
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Congratulations, Burma!
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Post#10 at 03-15-2016 03:43 AM by pbrower2a [at "Michigrim" joined May 2005 #posts 15,014]
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NAYPYITAW (Reuters) - Myanmar's parliament elected a close friend and confidant of Nobel laureate Aung San Suu Kyi as president on Tuesday, making Htin Kyaw the first head of state who does not hail from a military background since the 1960s.

Suu Kyi led her National League for Democracy (NLD) to a landslide election win in November, but a constitution drafted by the former junta bars her from the top office.

She has vowed to run the country anyway through a proxy, and on Thursday the NLD nominated Htin Kyaw for the role. He runs a charity founded by Suu Kyi and has been a trusted member of her inner circle since the mid-1990s. He is not a lawmaker.

Htin Kyaw received 360 votes of the 652 cast, the parliamentary official counting the votes said on Tuesday.
The greatest evil is not now done in those sordid "dens of crime" (or) even in concentration camps and labour camps. In those we see its final result. But it is conceived and ordered... in clean, carpeted, warmed and well-lighted offices, by (those) who do not need to raise their voices. Hence, naturally enough, my symbol for Hell is something like the bureaucracy of a police state or the office of a thoroughly nasty business concern."


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