Calm down.
Your argument isn't valid to those who think that there are two persons in there, not one, as some of those with a religious perspective do.
The problem is using religion, as Kiff did, to buttress an argument (government welfare), but getting upset if people use it for another (abortion). I don't agree with either one. Kiff, you never explained where Jesus said that it's the governments job to take care of the poor, but you would probably know the Bible a lot better than me.
But the fact of the matter is that the federal govt could provide jobs to anyone willing and able to work. That would end most poverty in the nation both by direct employment and by the secondary impact of creating additional aggregate demand to get the economy humming along.
It could be done in a relatively short amount of time. And for the foreseeable future, it could be done without any cost to our society - no increase in inflation and no increase in taxes.
The only thing holding us back is ignorance of how a fiat currency system actually works.
So no, the two statements - yours and Odin's - are not equivalent.
"The Devil enters the prompter's box and the play is ready to start" - R. Service
“It’s not tax money. The banks have accounts with the Fed … so, to lend to a bank, we simply use the computer to mark up the size of the account that they have with the Fed. It’s much more akin to printing money.” - B.Bernanke
"Keep your filthy hands off my guns while I decide what you can & can't do with your uterus" - Sarah Silverman
If you meet a magic pony on the road, kill it. - Playwrite
It was modified to a 5 year maximinum. But most of the other stuff is still in place. I think The Wonkette nows something about the limits on food stamps.
And you can leave out the "conservative" and "liberal" crap, dude.
Since your age makes you such an expert, why don't you explain what Moynihan predicted LBJ's welfare programs would lead to?
OMG, this thread is like a warzone. *munches popcorn* FWIW, Ron Paul is an anarchist (except on abortion). Funny how much "anarchist" looks like "Antichrist."
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Well, I could probably come up with several passages, not only from the NT, but from the OT prophets.
However, that's not really the point. The government is (or should be, ideally) an extension of the people's will. We all take care of the poor through the taxes we pay into Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid.
I got it. See my edit.
You're being way too nice. Here:
"Have you ever seen Analyze This? There was a funny scene early on when Billy Crystal, a therapist, loses it with a patient, and then you realize that he's just having a fantasy of what he would like to say. Perhaps we get the fallout your patients are spared."
Low rates of out of wedlock births for ages. Then, women get compensated for having out of wedlock births. Then the rate takes off. Common sense tells you that's not a coincidence.
But I'll let Kaiser, who seems to think he's the expert on such things, explain how Senator Moynihan looked at the history of New York to predict it.
Right after he apoplogizes to Rani.