Now wait a minute. You're moving the goal posts here. Your original statement was about "unwanted children.'' Now you're talking about "out of wedlock births." They are not one and the same. Plenty of those kids were wanted.
I don't know how one would measure the number of "unwanted" children without interviewing every single person that's had a child over the last 40-50 years.
Great. Let's see them. Put up or shut up! Rani came through. Waht about you?
Thank you Jean Jaques Rosseau.
America was founded, and gained its greatness, based on the fact that the power of the governemnt, including the people's will, is LIMITED. Unlimited power, includimng the "Will of the Peope" is Tyranny.
You know, Kiff, you take your moniker after a guy who got put to death by a government who didn't have any limits on the "Will of the People". You might want to mull that over.
You're missing the point. It's not about Bible verses.
I don't disagree. I just don't think that providing medical care to the poor is particularly egregious in the grand scheme of things.Thank you Jean Jaques Rosseau.
America was founded, and gained its greatness, based on the fact that the power of the governemnt, including the people's will, is LIMITED. Unlimited power, includimng the "Will of the Peope" is Tyranny.
I knew very well what I was doing.You know, Kiff, you take your moniker after a guy who got put to death by a government who didn't have any limits on the "Will of the People". You might want to mull that over.
Oh come on. You said that your Christianity make you want to push for welfare programs. So it is about Bible verses.
Unsustainable is egregious. As Ron Paul pointed out, we did well (maybe better) without it.
Considering he was a doctor at the time, he'd probably know more about it than you, don't you think?
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You're not getting it. The basis of your argument is that religious liberals are hypocrites for turning a blind eye to abortion while fighting for better government services. And I say they know intrinsically even if they cannot articulate clearly that they are not the same because violating a woman's body to "protect" something fundamentally a part of it does not equate to autonomous individuals getting together to figure out how to protect other autonomous individuals within a society. If you understood the difference between a woman's body and society, you would have not have made that polemic.
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I don't get this. The Rani has got to be one of the sweetest persons here. Is intelligence that offensive?
No, I said that caring for the poor is not a uniquely Christian value. In fact, I pushed for assistance to the poor long before I ever became a Christian.
I don't think so. It's about the principle of the Golden Rule.So it is about Bible verses.
Compassion is limitless.Unsustainable is egregious.
And now he's a politician.As Ron Paul pointed out, we did well (maybe better) without it.
Considering he was a doctor at the time, he'd probably know more about it than you, don't you think?