a Romney fanboy F-the-47% percent elitist a-hole - check his "1B+ Chinese with less incentive for prevention and personal responsibility" talking point -

Originally Posted by princeofcats67

Maybe we should start marketing The ACA to the Chinese.
Then, they'll all be protected against H5N1(et al).

It'll be our new export economy!
(just think of the size of that 'risk-pool'! )


Prince

PS: Ah, I can see it all now; 1B+ Chinese with less
incentive for prevention and personal responsibility.

Priceless!

For you Lefty I-want-my-single-payer toadies, you might want to re-consider what kind of pricks you jump in bed with - he may be a prince, but he's still an elitist I-got-mine-F-everyone-else asshole.

... is pointing the way again.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...is-succeeding/

Wonkbook: In California, Obamacare is succeeding

Wonkbook's Number of the Day: 424,936. That's how many people California enrolled in Obamacare policies between October 1 and December 31. The goal for the reach by the end of March is between 487,000 and 696,000 -- and it now looks very much attainable.

nice going -

http://thinkprogress.org/health/2014...aid-expansion/

Medicaid Expansion Has Already Cut The Number Of Uninsured West Virginians By A Third

West Virginia Gov. Earl Ray Tomblin’s (D) decision to accept Obamacare’s optional Medicaid expansion last spring is already paying off in a big way for the large number of poor and uninsured people in the state.

According to the New York Times, about 75,000 Wast Virginia residents have enrolled in Medicaid since Obamacare’s open enrollment season launched in October. While a portion of that consists of people who already had Medicaid benefits and are simply re-enrolling in the program, a sizable number of uninsured residents are gaining health benefits for the first time, thanks to the health law’s expanded eligibility threshold that allows anyone earning up 138 percent of the Federal Poverty Level (FPL) to enroll in Medicaid. In fact, the number of uninsured people in the states has already been reduced by a third.

An analysis by the Kaiser Family Foundation (KFF) finds that the Medicaid expansion will eventually reduce West Virginia’s uninsurance rate by a staggering 67 percent.

That’s particularly important in a state with sky-high rates of chronic illness and poverty. The Times highlights Sharon Mills, a disabled nurse with diabetes who had to rely on free samples and the kindness of strangers to afford her medication. “The heavy thing that was pressing on me is gone,” Mills said, describing her feelings of relief about gaining health insurance under the Medicaid expansion.

Expansion has been having a similar effect throughout the country. Oregon reduced its uninsurancee rate by 10 percent in just the first two weeks of October thanks to the expansion; all told, about four million people have enrolled in Medicaid or the Children’s Health Insurance Program (CHIP) since Obamacare’s open enrollment period began. In states that expanded Medicaid, applications spiked by 15 percent in October compared to the previous three months, and applications have been rising even in the states that didn’t expand Medicaid. Some believe this is due to “the woodwork effect,” where people who didn’t know they qualified for public insurance are signing up for insurance thanks to intense media coverage of Obamacare.

But sadly, there's also some facts here that will give PrinceofPricks67 an erection -

Unfortunately, unlike West Virginia, many of the poorest and sickest states in America have rejected the Medicaid expansion, leaving more than 5.3 million low-income Americans in a coverage gap.

I hate throwing him a boner like that, but it is what it is.

Originally Posted by The Rani

Hmm ... ok. But you saw Eric's comment that he applied for Medicaid through the California website and never heard back from them, right?

Eventually, it will work out for Eric and he will add to the growing numbers of people benefiting from the ACA.

Whether you want to look at that as a negative or a positive is more about your own personality.

http://www.mercurynews.com/health/ci...ots-shock-many

Obamacare: Free flu shots a shock to many

This weekend, Ding Yuan got a flu shot -- for free.

The 25-year-old San Jose software engineer is among 156 million Americans whose employers pay for their health insurance. But like many of them, Yuan was surprised to find out that as of Jan. 1, the annual flu shot at his CVS pharmacy wouldn't cost him anything because of the new federal health care law.

So was Terry Woo, a 53-year-old San Jose father of five who was getting his inoculation at a Walgreens a few miles away.

"That's great," said Woo, who also receives his health insurance through work. "I fully supported Obamacare, but I didn't know that."

After months of controversy and angst following the rocky rollout of the Affordable Care Act -- from the initial meltdown of the federal health exchange website to the shock of many consumers told their old policies were being canceled-- some of the law's most tangible perks are finally in place.

And amid a deadly swine flu outbreak across the country, one potentially life-saving service -- free flu shots -- could represent the first positive experience millions of average Americans have with the new law.

The law, signed by President Barack Obama in March 2010, now mandates that most health plans cover a set of preventive services, including shots and screening tests, with no co-payment -- regardless of whether someone has met his or her yearly deductible.

"It's a great example of how having insurance can make a lot of difference and may reduce a barrier for people," said Dr. Jeffrey Rideout, senior medical adviser at Covered California, the state's health insurance exchange.

A common misunderstanding is that the health care law's free preventive services are available only to people who bought their plans on the exchange.

Not true, said Roy Kennedy, a Covered California spokesman.

"These are part of the essential benefits that are now included in all plans," he said.

The law's requirement to cover preventive services at no cost applies to all "non-grandfathered" private plans -- including individual, employer and self-insured plans in which employers contract with a third-party payer, said Cynthia Cox, a senior policy analyst at the Menlo Park-based Kaiser Family Foundation.

Grandfathered plans are those insurance policies that were in effect before the health reform law was passed almost four years ago -- and they are exempt from some of the law's requirements.

"As long as your employer plan isn't grandfathered," Cox said, "then you should be able to get a free flu shot.''

Cox added that it's a good idea to check with your doctor to make sure he or she correctly bills the flu-shot visit as a preventive service. Otherwise, consumers might get a bill for the service.

Consumers should also find out from their health insurer where they can get their free shots. Kaiser Permanente, for example, will only cover a flu shot administered at a Kaiser facility or by Kaiser staff. But a company spokesman said Kaiser customers can get the shots with no appointment.

Those without health insurance can still get flu shots at pharmacies such as Walgreens and CVS, spokesmen for both chains said. But it will cost them about $32.

Meanwhile, flu shots continue to be fully covered under Medicare Part B, a benefit that was in place before the Affordable Care Act.

County public health departments also offer low-cost or free flu shots. Bay Area residents should check with their county health department for more information about prices and clinic locations.

The new health law offers more than just free flu shots. At least a dozen other free preventive health services -- from diabetes to HIV screening, programs for weight loss and smoking cessation -- are available to most American adults.

Women can get free annual check-ups, free breast and cervical cancer screenings and free contraception.

Children with private medical insurance or who are on Medi-Cal get their own set of free screenings for vision, oral health and obesity, among other tests.

"People should take advantage of the preventive and wellness services," said Covered California's Kennedy. "It makes a lot of sense.''

I realize that this more than likely caused PrinceofPricks67 to loss his erection - that's likely to become more the case as the ACA rolls-out and more good news impacts his mojo. But good news for him, his heavily govt-subsidized, employer-based insurance likely covers ED as well as his coming related depression from less opportunity to wallow in other peoples' misery.

Originally Posted by The Rani

I think it's odd that they had so much advance notice (not to mention hype) and still can't get people signed up properly.

Haven't you ever heard of Murphy's Law?

Originally Posted by The Rani

lol ... thanks for the psych eval

I think it's odd that they had so much advance notice (not to mention hype) and still can't get people signed up properly.

Maybe you have a problem reading graphs?

I think 12 million people might find it odd that you believe there is a general problem with signing up properly.

Just to note: 12 million is equivalent to the entire population of NYC and LA combined and we'll be throwing in the equivalent of Chicago's, Houston's and maybe even Philadelphia's by this April. Rather odd you basing your 'concern' on one report on an internet chat room. Like I said, must be a personality thingee.

12 million people is FOUR percent of America's population.

Originally Posted by The Wonkette

Haven't you ever heard of Murphy's Law?

Which is why they thought controlling 8 percent of our economy was a good idea.

Originally Posted by Wallace 88

12 million people is FOUR percent of America's population.

Let's review -



Taking out undocumented immigrants and ineligible but legal immigrants (neither my choice for exclusion, by the way), we're talking about 25% of the population being targeted by the ACA.

Of those, it is expected that 2% eligible for subsidies and 1.5% not eligible will not sign up. In addition, due to troglodytes in Red States, another 2% otherwise eligible for the Medicaid Expansion will not get ACA coverage (this is likely to change for the better, however, as the Right loses political power). Therefore, we're currently talking 19.5%. The 4% you've noted means we've already have reached 1/5 of that target in just the first three months of the first year and some projections have us getting to 1/2 by the end of this first year - representing 10s of millions of previously uninsured people being covered; many for the very first time. Nothing like that has been accomplished since the early 1960s when Medicare was established.

Also, the ACA does much beyond signing up those previously without insurance or with sub-standard insurance. For example, it mandates no locking out those with pre-conditions, no bias against women, and a host of free preventive care services.

So I'm a little puzzled by what your one-liner is trying to imply.

Originally Posted by Wallace 88

Which is why they thought controlling 8 percent of our economy was a good idea.

Now this is getting weird. You poo-poo just 4 million, then state it's CONTROLLING 8% of the economy.

Do you know the term "cognitive dissonance" by chance?

WTH?!?!

Originally Posted by playwrite

I know this may be beyond your comprehension to grasp, but you are not fooling anyone with your lame "too busy " horseshit. You got noting but regurgitated Faux News' talking points and too brainless to put-up and too much the Princeofpricks to shut-up. Now go pull your panties up, moron.

Originally Posted by playwrite

For PrinceofPricks67... and other toads and toadies, read it and weep, suckers -

http://www.dailykos.com/blog/Brainwrap



Look at the actual vs the CBO projection!*

____________________________________________
* For PrinceofPricks67 and other morons that means the ACA is on track to EXCEED expectations!

Originally Posted by playwrite

Hope for PrinceofPricks67

And it's not just about the numbers...

"It's a Godsent" ---

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/0...It-s-a-godsend

You see, there may be even hope for people like PrinceofPricks67 - he just needs an aggressive form of cancer to maybe grow a brain. Got my fingers crossed for you, PP67!

Originally Posted by playwrite

PrinceofPricks67 is clearly a Romney fanboy F-the-47% percent elitist a-hole - check his "1B+ Chinese with less incentive for prevention and personal responsibility" talking point -

For you Lefty I-want-my-single-payer toadies, you might want to re-consider what kind of pricks you jump in bed with - he may be a prince, but he's still an elitist I-got-mine-F-everyone-else asshole.

Originally Posted by playwrite

And West Virginia

nice going -

http://thinkprogress.org/health/2014...aid-expansion/

But sadly, there's also some facts here that will give PrinceofPricks67 an erection -

I hate throwing him a boner like that, but it is what it is.

Originally Posted by playwrite

http://www.mercurynews.com/health/ci...ots-shock-many

I realize that this more than likely caused PrinceofPricks67 to loss his erection - that's likely to become more the case as the ACA rolls-out and more good news impacts his mojo. But good news for him, his heavily govt-subsidized, employer-based insurance likely covers ED as well as his coming related depression from less opportunity to wallow in other peoples' misery.

Holy crap, Mr. Playwrite! I was just shooting the "joke" towards the net,
but had no idea that it was a score. Thanks. Hooray for Mr. Playwrite!


Prince(ofPricks67) !

PS: -*POP!*-

<chuckle! >

Originally Posted by The Rani

I didn't try to read any graphs, but I don't know if "enrollment" means people who applied (like Eric) or people who actually received coverage (unlike Eric.)

Flag on the play, Rani. Mr. Playwrite has already 'poo-poo'-ed any
discussion about that(ie: the 'back-end'). You have to confine your
comments to "sign-ups", not actual "enrollment".

Sign-ups=Enrollment.

And, under no circumstances are you to even mention
anyone having their weekly hours cut below 30 hours.
(That's the greedy-employers choice;
Not a result from a change in the Law.)

Problems=Greedy Employers/Insurance Companies.

But, at least you're talking about "insurance"(ie: "coverage")
as opposed to actual "care"(ie: costs, price, value, etc.).

Health Insurance=Health Care.


Ok. Now that I believe we've got
that cleared-up; Game on!


Prince

PS:

Originally Posted by Rani

Do you?

Of course not. No one(including HHS) does currently.
That's the fun part of "The Game". Don't ruin it for him.

Originally Posted by The Rani

I didn't try to read any graphs, but I don't know if "enrollment" means people who applied (like Eric) or people who actually received coverage (unlike Eric.)
Do you?

"Enrollment" means those who have signed up for private insurance or Medicaid through the Exchanges; their 834 forms transmitted to the private insurer or their Medicaid eligibility acceptance by their state program reported back to the feds; for those on private insurance, all that's left is for them to send their first payment.

That would not include Eric, at least as he last reported. At some point, he will join the 12 million people who have enrolled.

Oh, and if you want to go with the just-because-people-spent-a-lot-of-time-and-provided-a-lot-of-information-to-get-enrolled-doesn't-mean-the-check-is-in-the-mail wingnut meme, data coming in has already debunked that one. Sorry about that, but at least you're still not spouting the "death panel" one. Progress.

Originally Posted by princeofcats67

WTH?!?!

Holy crap, Mr. Playwrite! I was just shooting the "joke" towards the net,
but had no idea that it was a score. Thanks. Hooray for Mr. Playwrite!


Prince(ofPricks67) !

I've would have made those points, based on FACTS, even without you PriinceofPricks67.

It just makes it that much better to contrast reality with the ugliness and horseshit that you provide.

With Glick having shot himself in the head, you're a great moron to have around to substitute. Thanks!

Originally Posted by princeofcats67

Flag on the play, Rani. Mr. Playwrite has already 'poo-poo'-ed any
discussion about that(ie: the 'back-end'). You have to confine your
comments to "sign-ups", not actual "enrollment".

Sign-ups=Enrollment.

And this is where PrinceofPricks will now provide some FACTS that enrollments are not actually leading to coverage.

He will do that because PrinceofPricks does not want to one of those Faux News pricks that throws out lies and misleading horseshit! He's a PRINCE after all!

Go ahead, PrinceofPricks, give us those facts!

[cue crickets]

Originally Posted by princeofcats67

And, under no circumstances are you to even mention
anyone having their weekly hours cut below 30 hours.
(That's the greedy-employers choice;
Not a result from a change in the Law.)

Problems=Greedy Employers/Insurance Companies.

And here is where PrinceofPricks will use facts to explain how this trend toward less employer coverage indicated by this graph -



- is being caused by a law enacted in mid-2010 with relevant provisions not implemented until 2014 (individual insurance) and 2015 (employer insurance). Because again, PrinceofPricks doesn't want to be a prick by spewing false and misleading misinformation; he may be a Faux New's fanboy but he's got his facts and cogent arguments to back it up! He's a prince, after all!

You go, PrincepfPricks....

[cue the crickets]

Originally Posted by princeofcats67

But, at least you're talking about "insurance"(ie: "coverage")
as opposed to actual "care"(ie: costs, price, value, etc.).

Health Insurance=Health Care.

And now, PrinceofPricks is going to give us the FACTS that show that those with insurance coverage are just as likely not to seek health care services as those without insurance coverage.

You go, PrinceofPricks, show us all that you are not a lying prick.

[cue crickets]

Well, maybe it's just that PrinceofPricks only has enough time to spread horseshit and not enough time to back any of it up.

Understandable, he's not just a prick, he's the PrinceofPricks!

What's funny is the people that get into bed with this princely prick.

Originally Posted by The Rani

Ohhhhh
Now I know which graph I was supposed to be reading. The "mine is bigger than yours" graph.
Playdude's dick may have scored on his own goal, but be careful not to get too cocky yourself, PoP!

Wow, that PrinceofPricks really got you nailed.

There was only ONE graph. PrinceofPricks doesn't do graphs or any other, you know, actual facts.

Funny, how somebody with your professed background can't tell the difference between a graph and a prick.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...-their-libido/

Huckabee: Dems think women can’t control their libido

Huckabee said Democrats rely on women believing they are weaker than men and in need of government handouts, including the contraception mandate in Obamacare.

Huckabee said Democrats tell women “they are helpless without Uncle Sugar coming in and providing them for them a prescription each month for birth control because they cannot control their libido or their reproductive system without the help of government.”

Rani apparently can't resist the charms of a prick, granted, a PrinceofPricks, -



but it will still end badly. Imagine the child - 1/2 Rani; 1/2 prick67! Eek!

__________________________________________________ _____
Note to Rani and PrincePrick - Could you two at least spare the rest of us and get a room.... or, at least a covered kitty litter box, if you prefer? Please?!

Personal experience.

I received a call from my step-sister this morning. Because of some major hardships the past couple of years, they have gone through most of their savings. When they went to apply for ACA, which is far from affordable, she left crying. They cannot afford any of the plans and the steep out of pocket expenses. The bronze plan isn't even offered in our state. Even if it was, it's a piece of crap that leaves people with insurance in name only. She told the navigator who was helping them that she would just have to opt for the penalty. The navigator said that most people are very upset with the hidden costs of ACA and are opting for the penalty. Both my step-sister and her husband have major health issues, so will be up shit creek with health care. Sadly, they are among many.

Originally Posted by Deb C

Personal experience.

I received a call from my step-sister this morning. Because of some major hardships the past couple of years, they have gone through most of their savings. When they went to apply for ACA, which is far from affordable, she left crying. They cannot afford any of the plans and the steep out of pocket expenses. The bronze plan isn't even offered in our state. Even if it was, it's a piece of crap that leaves people with insurance in name only. She told the navigator who was helping them that she would just have to opt for the penalty. The navigator said that most people are very upset with the hidden costs of ACA and are opting for the penalty. Both my step-sister and her husband have major health issues, so will be up shit creek with health care. Sadly, they are among many.

Personal experience.

I received a call today from a friend who has a brother that knows this waiter who met a rabbi that did a circumcision on a baby of a women whose mother's step-brother had a wonderful time signing up for healthcare under the exchanges. In addition to not having to pay any money and under the constant care of the top hospital and doctor of any state of his choosing, they also gave him a magic pony!!!

Come on, seriously, is this what the opposition is down to??? No mention of state, incomes, ages or any of the other of the most basic facts to judge what is going on or what, if any, is the actual problem.

Nearly all of these "can't-afford stories", if serious, are going to be in states where the GOP troglodytes didn't expand Medicaid and/or set up a state exchange and negotiated down the insurers; and its Lefty toadies like Debs here that will work with their Right wing nut bed mates to cover that up.

Sure, it must feel great for her to know she gives people like PrinceofPricks happy erections, but it sure pales against Obama getting insurance coverage to over 12 million people!

Originally Posted by playwrite

Now this is getting weird. You poo-poo just 4 million, then state it's CONTROLLING 8% of the economy.

Do you know the term "cognitive dissonance" by chance?

12 million signups is 4 percent.

Obamacare is trying to screw up 100 percent of health insurance, which is a key part of health, which is 8 of the economy.

Still confused? Your cognitive dissonance is thinking that people signing up for insurance that they do not want because they will face a penalty if they do not mean that Obmacare s some sort of winner.

Originally Posted by princeofcats67

Flag on the play, Rani. Mr. Playwrite has already 'poo-poo'-ed any
discussion about that(ie: the 'back-end'). You have to confine your
comments to "sign-ups", not actual "enrollment".

Sign-ups=Enrollment.

And, under no circumstances are you to even mention
anyone having their weekly hours cut below 30 hours.
(That's the greedy-employers choice;
Not a result from a change in the Law.)

Problems=Greedy Employers/Insurance Companies.

But, at least you're talking about "insurance"(ie: "coverage")
as opposed to actual "care"(ie: costs, price, value, etc.).

Health Insurance=Health Care.


Ok. Now that I believe we've got
that cleared-up; Game on!


Prince

PS:

Of course not. No one(including HHS) does currently.
That's the fun part of "The Game". Don't ruin it for him.

How dare you bring up the difference between health insurance and health care. You will confuse Playwrite.

Originally Posted by Deb C

Personal experience.

I received a call from my step-sister this morning. Because of some major hardships the past couple of years, they have gone through most of their savings. When they went to apply for ACA, which is far from affordable, she left crying. They cannot afford any of the plans and the steep out of pocket expenses. The bronze plan isn't even offered in our state. Even if it was, it's a piece of crap that leaves people with insurance in name only. She told the navigator who was helping them that she would just have to opt for the penalty. The navigator said that most people are very upset with the hidden costs of ACA and are opting for the penalty. Both my step-sister and her husband have major health issues, so will be up shit creek with health care. Sadly, they are among many.

Another person confusing health INSURANCE and health CARE.

Originally Posted by Wallace 88

12 million signups is 4 percent.

Obamacare is trying to screw up 100 percent of health insurance, which is a key part of health, which is 8 of the economy.

One of you morons are actually going to try to defend one of your stupidities? Oh, this should be fun.

Tell us exactly, how Obamacare is screwing up 100 percent of health insurance. First, are you leaving out the 35% that are already covered by Medicare, Medicaid and VA? Are you leaving out the insurers and just talking about the 'screwing' of the insured? Are you talking about what has happen since the ACA or are you trying to blame all health insurance/care problems of the last century onto Obamacare? Do you know what the F you are talking about? (Wait, I know the answer to that last one - don't bother yourself with that one).

Originally Posted by Wallace 88

Still confused? Your cognitive dissonance is thinking that people signing up for insurance that they do not want because they will face a penalty if they do not mean that Obmacare s some sort of winner.

If people were signing up only because of the penalty, then they would wait until the last moment (mid-March, possible later) to do that and save the difference. We have 12 million people who signed up, and it's just January, dufus.

The penalty is for those free riders that drive the cost of medical care and insurance up for the rest of us, dufus. Amazing how you all's Libertarian horseshit goes out the window under the least bit of stress.

Originally Posted by Wallace 88

Another person confusing health INSURANCE and health CARE.

Yea, and there's a difference between you having a brain and being able to think. Outside of yourself, most people with a brain can think. Similarly, those with insurance tend to seek health care when needed, those without insurance, often go without or they go to emergency rooms for stuff that should be done by a typical visit to their doctor.

Try engaging your brain in what is called 'thinking.' Be sure to hang onto something first, it can be quite shocking to those who have never tried before.