Originally Posted by The Rani

Hey, playdude knows all!
Stuff like this study is just meant to, what was it, scare people? ---



http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2014...sits-in-oregon

Well, I do forget things on occasions.

For example, I occasionally forget that O'care dead enders like yourself, the ones with heavily-subsidized employer-based insurance, are really upset that the 'little people' might use a healthcare service that should only be available to themselves. You know, hypocritical elitist a-holes like PrinceofPricks67.

Fortunately, however, you remind me and I'm back to my know-it-all status. Thanks!

Sad, Dead Ender clown, very sad -



- but at least she gets to keep her crown!

Originally Posted by Marx & Lennon

Why is anyone surprised by this? The poor have always used the emergency room. It was their only option. The fact that this is no longer true doesn't retrain them overnight. In time, they will be redirected to Urgent Care, which is better for them and the provider system too. I doubt many will ever have a family doc, but who knows. In any case, it will take time to change old habits.

You mean letting people and institutions figure something out instead of it being addressed and remedied by a one-size fits all federal regulatory approach??? That's just silly.

Nope, according to the O'care dead enders, any problems remaining in the world (e.g. failure to colonize Mars, Middle East Peace, Justin Bieber) are a direct result of the failings of the ACA -- and some of these dead enders are on record as professing their Libertarian bonofides. Too funny.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewir...caid-expansion

60% Of KY GOPers Buck McConnell, Support Medicaid Expansion

A solid majority of Kentucky Republicans support the state's decision to expand Medicaid under Obamacare, according to a new poll, standing in stark contrast to Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell's opposition to the provision.

The Foundation for a Healthy Kentucky poll, reported by NPR-affiliated WFPL, found that 60 percent of self-identified Republicans said they support expansion. In total, 79 percent of Kentuckians agree with Democratic Gov. Steve Beshear's decision to expand coverage to low-income people under the health care reform law.

In a statement to WFPL, McConnell spokesman Robert Steurer dismissed the findings.

"Most new Obamacare enrollees are not on private plans, but are added to the state’s struggling Medicaid program," he said, "where one hundred percent of these costs will be picked up by taxpayers and where there is already a shortage of physicians accepting Medicaid patients."

More than 120,000 Kentuckians have enrolled in Medicaid through the state's Obamacare website since it launched in October, according to Beshear's office, though that number includes some people who were previously eligible for the program.

The poll, conducted from Oct. 25 to Nov. 26 by the Policy Research Center at the University of Cincinnati and funded by the Foundation for a Healthy Kentucky, surveyed 1,551 adults. It has a margin of error of 2.5 percent.

I can think of a few things that would be sweeter justice than Obamacare's Medicaid Expansion taking out "the Turtle" in 2014, but it will do, it will do.

PW,

Is there some payoff for being as nasty as you are on this thread?

Originally Posted by The Rani

He's a sexy bitch!
<snipped Kaner-pic>

Wait! How in the hell did you get a hold of one of my pics from college?


Prince

PS: Unfortunately, if he's anything like I was, I suspect this pic more
appropriately describes his "scoring" ability in that condition. *doh!* !

Originally Posted by Deb C

Now I know why he's been so busy.

Who me? Naw, Deb, I'm just "mis-understood".


Prince

PS: It's not so much that I'm "busy", per se; It's more like: It just takes
me too much time to wade through all the BS without my boots on!

Originally Posted by princeofcats67

Who me? Naw, Deb, I'm just "mis-understood".

I've dated a few cowboys in my time.

Originally Posted by TnT

PW,

Is there some payoff for being as nasty as you are on this thread?

I pretty much laid out an answer to that on a different thread that my name was dragged into. I'm sure you saw it by now since you are posting on that thread yourself. If not, here is the link where you can get started -

http://www.fourthturning.com/forum/s...754#post493754

If you still have trouble with this, come back and I'll explain it to you.

Originally Posted by playwrite

I pretty much laid out an answer to that on a different thread that my name was dragged into. I'm sure you saw it by now since you are posting on that thread yourself. If not, here is the link where you can get started -

http://www.fourthturning.com/forum/s...754#post493754

If you still have trouble with this, come back and I'll explain it to you.

Oh man, Mr. Playwrite. I seriously thought we were just playing-around.

You see, those "insults"(eg: "don't mess with the bull....", "show (the) dick some respect",
"big fuckin' joke", etc.), are lines between John Bender and Richard "Dick" Vernon from
the movie: The Breakfast Club.

Personally, I have no problem with you insulting me,
but it appears that other people do, so for that reason,
I'll stop responding to any of your posts. Like I said, I
thought we were just having fun.

Anyway, you may want to consider using a little more discretion i/r/t
the people that go for the 'cut-down' sort of thing. That's all, really.

And FWIW, I did really like this 'prince of cats'-graphic you found.

So, that's that.


Sincerely,

Prince

PS: (ofPricks67)!
(Lighten up, people; It's just a joke).

Originally Posted by playwrite

I pretty much laid out an answer to that on a different thread that my name was dragged into. I'm sure you saw it by now since you are posting on that thread yourself. If not, here is the link where you can get started -

http://www.fourthturning.com/forum/s...754#post493754

If you still have trouble with this, come back and I'll explain it to you.

I don't have any "trouble" with it at all. Just wondering. See, it appears to me that you do a lot of background work on the material that you present, and obviously you have a high level of intelligence, and above-average ability to articulate a position.

But being drawn into simple-minded name-calling just isn't very flattering to oneself. I hope that as you age you can see how counter-productive that sort of thing is.

On the other hand, really witty sarcasm, and Winston Churchill-style insults can be great fun. You could try that instead?

Originally Posted by princeofcats67

Oh man, Mr. Playwrite. I seriously thought we were just playing-around.

You see, those "insults"(eg: "don't mess with the bull....", "show (the) dick some respect",
"big fuckin' joke", etc.), are lines between John Bender and Richard "Dick" Vernon from
the movie: The Breakfast Club.

Personally, I have no problem with you insulting me,
but it appears that other people do, so for that reason,
I'll stop responding to any of your posts. Like I said, I
thought we were just having fun.

Anyway, you may want to consider using a little more discretion i/r/t
the people that go for the 'cut-down' sort of thing. That's all, really.

And FWIW, I did really like this 'prince of cats'-graphic you found.

So, that's that.


Sincerely,

Prince

PS: (ofPricks67)!
(Lighten up, people; It's just a joke).

Okay, got it.

I was coming here for something different - looking for more depth. Not going to happen. Frustrating but it is what it is. Moving on.

Peace be with you.

Originally Posted by TnT

I don't have any "trouble" with it at all. Just wondering. See, it appears to me that you do a lot of background work on the material that you present, and obviously you have a high level of intelligence, and above-average ability to articulate a position.

But being drawn into simple-minded name-calling just isn't very flattering to oneself. I hope that as you age you can see how counter-productive that sort of thing is.

On the other hand, really witty sarcasm, and Winston Churchill-style insults can be great fun. You could try that instead?

Insightful and good advice. Thanks.

I guess I just don't have the energy for what you suggest, but appreciate your thoughtful consideration.

Moving on.

Peace to you and yours.

Originally Posted by The Rani

That's not the only reference that he missed:

Kaner is the one with low standards. "Two fives equals a ten" is a comment about the mediocre but plentiful women that he attracts.
Ah playdude, clueless as ever!

Clueless? Recent events have made that the prime imperative.

You take really good care of yourself. I mean it.

Originally Posted by playwrite

Okay, got it.

I was coming here for something different - looking for more depth. Not going to happen. Frustrating but it is what it is. Moving on.

My sentiments exactly.


Prince

PS:

Originally Posted by PW

Peace be with you.

Pax, back atcha, Mr. Playwrite.

Originally Posted by The Rani

Will do.

Back on topic, ANOTHER new strain of killer bird flu. Seriously, WTF is this:

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/...A0P00P20140126

Hey Rani.

You may want to check-out: The Corrupted Blood Plague Incident.


Prince

PS: OK. Back to my self-imposed "quarantine".

Originally Posted by TnT

I don't have any "trouble" with it at all. Just wondering. See, it appears to me that you do a lot of background work on the material that you present, and obviously you have a high level of intelligence, and above-average ability to articulate a position.

But being drawn into simple-minded name-calling just isn't very flattering to oneself. I hope that as you age you can see how counter-productive that sort of thing is.

On the other hand, really witty sarcasm, and Winston Churchill-style insults can be great fun. You could try that instead?

Just curious -- how old do you think Playwrite is? I understand him to be an Aquarian Boomer, which would put him in his 7th decade.

Originally Posted by The Wonkette

Just curious -- how old do you think Playwrite is? I understand him to be an Aquarian Boomer, which would put him in his 7th decade.

Four, about my age.

Originally Posted by TnT

I don't have any "trouble" with it at all. Just wondering. See, it appears to me that you do a lot of background work on the material that you present, and obviously you have a high level of intelligence, and above-average ability to articulate a position.

But being drawn into simple-minded name-calling just isn't very flattering to oneself. I hope that as you age you can see how counter-productive that sort of thing is.

On the other hand, really witty sarcasm, and Winston Churchill-style insults can be great fun. You could try that instead?

I'll tell you one thing: I'd rather be called names than have philosophical positions imputed to me that I just plain don't hold - a practice I have been subjected to myriads of times on here.

Originally Posted by The Wonkette

Just curious -- how old do you think Playwrite is? I understand him to be an Aquarian Boomer, which would put him in his 7th decade.

Well, I just turned 72. I guess I figured that there's only about two of us left on this forum in the Silent classification. 7th decade would put him in his 60's - mid to late Boomer?

Originally Posted by '58 Flat

I'll tell you one thing: I'd rather be called names than have philosophical positions imputed to me that I just plain don't hold - a practice I have been subjected to myriads of times on here.

Perhaps it's my age, or perhaps it's my age plus not living with the InterWeb for most of my life, but ... once I caught on to the ways of discussion forums, it really doesn't matter much what people say about me in any sense.

Folks can impute philosophical positions on me or call me names. I just move on to the next comment. This forum has a higher level of seemingly good info than most. And even some of the arguments can be very entertaining - see for example Mikebert vs. Vandal - what a hoot, eh? But anyone that takes it personal ... well ...

And for those doing the imputing or the name-calling ... seems to me it says more about them than the imputee or the callee

Originally Posted by TnT

Perhaps it's my age, or perhaps it's my age plus not living with the InterWeb for most of my life, but ... once I caught on to the ways of discussion forums, it really doesn't matter much what people say about me in any sense.

Folks can impute philosophical positions on me or call me names. I just move on to the next comment. This forum has a higher level of seemingly good info than most. And even some of the arguments can be very entertaining - see for example Mikebert vs. Vandal - what a hoot, eh? But anyone that takes it personal ... well ...

And for those doing the imputing or the name-calling ... seems to me it says more about them than the imputee or the callee

I see name calling and put downs as a sign of internal violence. IMHO, an attempt for civil conversation is derailed when one lowers themselves by shooting the other person with disgusting word bullets. It seems to me, with all of the junior high school mentality on TV these days, I think we might see harsh words as normal behavior.

I always appreciate your posts because they have always been respectful, in spite of who you might disagree with.

Originally Posted by TnT

Well, I just turned 72. I guess I figured that there's only about two of us left on this forum in the Silent classification. 7th decade would put him in his 60's - mid to late Boomer?

So I am probably the one guy to meet both of our Silents.

Originally Posted by The Rani

Yes, that is very interesting indeed.
Thanks!

I was hoping that would be the case.
(and btw, you're very welcome. )


Prince

PS: Personally, I'm not really a video-gamer.
I actually became aware of it from hanging-out
with some Millennial guys at the local 7-11!

In looking over the mail I gotten this weekend I find that I have to fight with my mothers precription drug plan because they want to charge her more than her meds. cost without help!!!
Also, all of my nieces and nephews are opting out of Obamacare because of the cost. oOn eextended family may not be a microcossim of the larger trends but I know of others who hva similar delimnas. Could it be that the whole system is going to get so complecated and expensive from the complecations that the whole thing is going to implode at some point? This is starting to look like a series of interlocking problems that will need to be addressed further in the 4T.

Originally Posted by The Rani

I saw a fb post recently by a friend of mine who works for Big Pharma, complaining that his job is so boring because it involves figuring out the economics of how to make the largest possible profit from the latest Miracle Drug.
I really really really had to hold my tongue. Really. Maybe I shouldn't have, but getting into politics on fb is not my thing. Besides, I think you are right; Karma will come back to bite that industry in the ass.

From your lips to god's ears ...

However, as you probably know, hardly a day goes by that we in the healthcare "industry" don't experience a "shortage" of ordinary medications. During the last year our EMS has had to be careful with our dwindling supply of morphine, and other every-day meds. Why? Beats the shit out of me.

And ... one reads that vaccines are in short supply and that if a pandemic were to arrive, that many months would be required to marshall the effort to fight back with a targeted vaccine. Why? Beats the shit out of me.

The wonders of our private corporate pharmaceutical industry, I suppose.

My years spent throwing my body on the altar of science and industry suggest that Karma will never have much impact on any corporation. If they fail, they simply go out of business. Nothing more. The people who worked there get a bad deal, but the upper level managers, boards of directors, etc. all walk away with enough wealth to set up their individual families for many generations to come. So ... one wonders ... whose ass will Karma bite?