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Post#151 at 07-07-2008 12:00 PM by jamesdglick [at Clarksville, TN joined Mar 2007 #posts 2,007]
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"Out of Context Parsing"

Quote Originally Posted by playwrite View Post
On this thread, my complaint had to do with you parsing out my "go into the light" as your example of "cute smiley face afterward", when, in fact, my post was the exact opposite of that little trick.
I already answered this in post #208:

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-In the context of what others have posted, and Playwrite's usual sarcasm, it looked dubious to me.

However, since Semo is fine with it, that's that...
Why wasn't Playwrite paying attention?

PW then goes on:

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...You choose instead to reference an exchange on another thread regarding your snake oil scheme for SS privatization; that's okay by me because it too shows how disingenuous and mis-representative your parsing tends to be...
-No... I used it because it was a recent example of my "out of context" parsing, which shows that it was in context. I frequently do it with PW because he and his buddies constantly contradict themselves and each other, and it's useful to remind them of that fact.

And finally...

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...Now, go ahead, and spend your day at the library...At closing time, after flicking the lights in what must have become a ritual for them, they'll scoot you out...
-I like to read. Sue me.

Uh, "flicking the lights"?

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...Now, go ahead, and spend your day at the library, cruising through every one of my posts, your posts, and perhaps those of others...
-As I pointed out above, it's neccessary to point out where PW and his buddies contradict themselves and each other. It's not very difficult, though. Excellence is making the difficult look easy.

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...And then, its that lonely walk back to that empty trailer...
-Hmmm... I'm not the one who's so lonely and ashamed of himself that he feels the need to sit in what he claims to be a Manhattan penthouse and medicate himself with alcohol and recreational pharmaceuticals; that's the self-proclaimed lifestyle of the Convieniently Anonymous Playwrite, which is probably why he missed my post #208.

Stay alert, stay alive.

Which reminds me, here's another "out of context parse":

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...And just one last point - I don't give a flying F about what you think I did or didn't do.
-Just based on the tone, I'd say that PW does give a flying F about what I suspect he did or didn't do. Throw in the constant attempts at nastiness towards a thrifty military retiree, and I'd say it's solid. Perhaps if Playwrite had done something with his life of which he could be proud, he wouldn't be in his fix. Oh well. Probably too late.

However, I must give him points for not actually using the "F" word. His language has gotten cleaner these past months. It's nice to see some growth...







Post#152 at 07-19-2008 04:38 PM by jamesdglick [at Clarksville, TN joined Mar 2007 #posts 2,007]
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Hmmm...

How does this posting:

Quote Originally Posted by The Grey Badger View Post
Yes. My ideas may be silly. So may hers. We are not.
...correspond to the fact that the same poster has a meticulously maintained website that translates as "Idiot Girl"?

Curious in Clarksville







Post#153 at 07-22-2008 02:54 PM by jamesdglick [at Clarksville, TN joined Mar 2007 #posts 2,007]
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Hmmm...

Quote Originally Posted by playwrite View Post
...Retiree #3 sets out on a quest to find one of those responsible for foisting the Snake Oil upon the once great Nation. He finds one Jimboy attempting to eek out a living in trailer in Clarksville, Tennessee...Rather than kill Jimboy, Retiree #3 falls instantly in love with Jimboy and after getting married.
...Playwrite must have been so under the influence when he typed this, that he didn't even realize what was oozing out of his sub-conscious and into the public domain.







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Excellence!

Quote Originally Posted by jamesdglick View Post
...Playwrite must have been so under the influence when he typed this, that he didn't even realize what was oozing out of his sub-conscious and into the public domain.
Why would it be subconscious when you have made it so obvious here -

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I frequently do it with PW
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and his buddies constantly
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I like
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flicking the[ir] lights"
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it's useful to remind them of that fact.
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I'm not
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so lonely and ashamed
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I like
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solid
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nastiness
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I'm
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a thrifty military retiree
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It's nice to see some
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Excellence
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in
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"out of context parse"
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Post#155 at 07-22-2008 03:59 PM by jamesdglick [at Clarksville, TN joined Mar 2007 #posts 2,007]
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-Playwrite keeps whining about "unfair out of context" parses, but hasn't been able to provide even one example. Anyone who wants to check my "out of context parses" only has to click on them to read the entire post. In everything case, they'll find that they are in context; the only thing warped is PW.







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Quote Originally Posted by jamesdglick View Post
-Playwrite keeps whining about "unfair out of context" parses, but hasn't been able to provide even one example. Anyone who wants to check my "out of context parses" only has to click on them to read the entire post. In everything case, they'll find that they are in context; the only thing warped is PW.

See, you can put two and a half sentences (almost three!) together without parsing. Great job, Jimmie, it's a good start!

One last parse from me, out of concern for your welfare - be careful about posting this -

Quote Originally Posted by jamesdglick View Post
Curious in Clarksville
- unless you really do want some folks showing up at your door that I believe
you would find somewhat, ah, different.
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Post#157 at 07-23-2008 01:49 PM by jamesdglick [at Clarksville, TN joined Mar 2007 #posts 2,007]
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Putting PW in context

Playwrite is whining about my "parsing" again. Again, I use his out-takes to remind him of his inconsistencies, and to call him to accout for his hypocrisy.

For example:

Quote Originally Posted by playwrite View Post
...Your getting puffed-up, like the toad that you are, over $1000/month shows how completely out of touch you are - not only is $12K/year below the property level but below welfare support levels...
...here, Playwrite showed his "concern" for those who presently get $1000/month from the ponzi scheme. So when I pointed out that by 2051 (at the latest, by his own figures), many 1981-cohort retirees (who retire in 2048) will be far worse off:

Quote Originally Posted by jamesdglick View Post

Retiree #1
Benefits from SS Ponzi Scheme: $701/month x .8 = $560.80/month

Worker #2
Benefits from SS Ponzi Scheme: $989/month x .8 = $791.20/month

Worker #3
Benefits from SS Ponzi Scheme: $1567/month x .8 = $1253.60/month
http://www.ssa.gov/retire2/AnypiaApplet.html

...instead of responding to that point, he created a silly End Of The World scenario:

Quote Originally Posted by playwrite View Post
...Now let's do a little comparison of what will happen to those folks that you gave a forecast but compared to their fate under your snake oil proposal -

Retiree #1 - Under Jimboy Snake Oil - After several years of trillions of dollars bidding up the price of farmland, farmers still actually raising food (note - the old farmers took their billions to early retirement in New Zealand) find that they cannot sell food at prices (e.g. milk is at $100/gal) to cover their mortgages. Retiree #1 is killed at the age of 25 while leading a food riot.

Retiree #2 - Under Jimboy Snake Oil - After several years of trillions of SS dollars poured into oil leases and drilling equipment, oil must sale at $2000 a barrel to give investors an ROI of 0.001% of the current inflation rate which is pegged at 10,000%. The entire market collapses overnight and no gas is delivered for the next two years. Retiree #2 is lynched by an angry mob when caught siphoning gas; the crowd laughs at his excuse that he was trying to get his elderly mother to the hospital; everyone knows that no hospitals have been in operation for months...
...resulting in my assault and what seems to be some sort of sexual predatory kidnapping:

Quote Originally Posted by playwrite View Post
Retiree #3 - Under Jimboy Snake Oil - Having seen most of his loved ones killed or die from starvation, Retiree #3 sets out on a quest to find one of those responsible for foisting the Snake Oil upon the once great Nation. He finds one Jimboy attempting to eek out a living in trailer in Clarksville, Tennessee. Jimboy's military pension was terminated because the US could only afford a very small military of "wolves" between ages 15 to 17. Needless to say, Jimboy lost all his money "investing" in the tulip frenzy - just one of thousands of asset inflation busts that have wiped out most Americans. Rather than kill Jimboy, Retiree #3 falls instantly in love with Jimboy and after getting married (it should be noted that nationwide, in hopes of further quickening the massive decreases in population, only same sex marriages are being allowed), they eek out a living serving as live ammo targets for the local military base - fortunately for them, they beat out thousands who applied for the rare job because they were the best at bleating like sheep - (yea, human life has gotten that cheap under Jimboy's snake oil scheme).
...well, avoiding homsexual rape is the best reason PW has given me for supporting the SS Ponzi Scheme so far...

...I'd stop "parsing" PW's comments, if he'd stop making comments that were contradictory, hypocritical, and deranged.

PW's real problem isn't that I take him out of context (I don't), but that I keep putting him in context.







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Quote Originally Posted by jamesdglick View Post
Playwrite is whining about my "parsing" again. Again, I use his out-takes to remind him of his inconsistencies, and to call him to accout for his hypocrisy.

For example:



...here, Playwrite showed his "concern" for those who presently get $1000/month from the ponzi scheme. So when I pointed out that by 2051 (at the latest, by his own figures), many 1981-cohort retirees (who retire in 2048) will be far worse off:



http://www.ssa.gov/retire2/AnypiaApplet.html

...instead of responding to that point, he created a silly End Of The World scenario:



...resulting in my assault and what seems to be some sort of sexual predatory kidnapping:



...well, avoiding homsexual rape is the best reason PW has given me for supporting the SS Ponzi Scheme so far...

...I'd stop "parsing" PW's comments, if he'd stop making comments that were contradictory, hypocritical, and deranged.

PW's real problem isn't that I take him out of context (I don't), but that I keep putting him in context.
The only thing deserving of a response here is in regard to your scare tactic of "will be far worse off" and only for the kids that might lay awake worrying about what will happen in 3-5 decades from now.
I think this response from a fairly level-headed poster says it best -
http://www.fourthturning.com/forum/s...postcount=4331

As for the rest, it’s obvious that I've touch a humorless nerve that might be hidden even from yourself. Perhaps you might consider getting some help.
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Post#159 at 07-23-2008 05:13 PM by The Grey Badger [at Albuquerque, NM joined Sep 2001 #posts 8,876]
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Don't we have a Flame War thread for this sort of discussion? Can these posts be moved there?
How to spot a shill, by John Michael Greer: "What you watch for is (a) a brand new commenter who (b) has nothing to say about the topic under discussion but (c) trots out a smoothly written opinion piece that (d) hits all the standard talking points currently being used by a specific political or corporate interest, while (e) avoiding any other points anyone else has made on that subject."

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Post#160 at 07-23-2008 05:21 PM by The Wonkette [at Arlington, VA 1956 joined Jul 2002 #posts 9,209]
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Or at least move this discussion to a Social Security forum?
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Quote Originally Posted by The Wonkette View Post
Or at least move this discussion to a Social Security forum?
-Since it's come up during the election, I'd say the Election 2008 thread; it is your thread...







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Oh, wait...

And while we're at it...

Quote Originally Posted by playwrite View Post
The only thing deserving of a response here...
-What's deserving of a response is why Playwrite doesn't see the humor of his own inconsistencies (which he dodged above). I think his whiny claims of "out of context parsing" are hilarious; all you have to do is click back, and see him in his full glory...

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As for the rest, it’s obvious that I've touch a humorless nerve that might be hidden even from yourself...
-Tsk, tsk. I have a sense of humor; it's just that for some reason Playwrite doesn't appreciate it. Playwrite himself admits that I certainly touch his nerve:

Quote Originally Posted by playwrite View Post
...But your right about both my view of using off-stage credentials and my breaking my self-imposed rule - only a few lapses...
...BTW, a blatant lie; it's not hard to find his "slips" about his supposed background, but anyway...

Quote Originally Posted by playwrite View Post
...What's really funny is letting some loser in a backwoods trailer bring it out in me.
-Tsk, tsk. Temper, Temper! Maybe PW's just a mean drunk, which would explain beserk outbursts like this:

Quote Originally Posted by playwrite View Post
Retiree #1 - Under Jimboy Snake Oil - After several years of trillions of dollars bidding up the price of farmland, farmers still actually raising food (note - the old farmers took their billions to early retirement in New Zealand) find that they cannot sell food at prices (e.g. milk is at $100/gal) to cover their mortgages. Retiree #1 is killed at the age of 25 while leading a food riot.

Retiree #2 - Under Jimboy Snake Oil - After several years of trillions of SS dollars poured into oil leases and drilling equipment, oil must sale at $2000 a barrel to give investors an ROI of 0.001% of the current inflation rate which is pegged at 10,000%. The entire market collapses overnight and no gas is delivered for the next two years. Retiree #2 is lynched by an angry mob when caught siphoning gas; the crowd laughs at his excuse that he was trying to get his elderly mother to the hospital; everyone knows that no hospitals have been in operation for months

Retiree #3 - Under Jimboy Snake Oil - Having seen most of his loved ones killed or die from starvation, Retiree #3 sets out on a quest to find one of those responsible for foisting the Snake Oil upon the once great Nation. He finds one Jimboy attempting to eek out a living in trailer in Clarksville, Tennessee. Jimboy's military pension was terminated because the US could only afford a very small military of "wolves" between ages 15 to 17. Needless to say, Jimboy lost all his money "investing" in the tulip frenzy - just one of thousands of asset inflation busts that have wiped out most Americans. Rather than kill Jimboy, Retiree #3 falls instantly in love with Jimboy and after getting married (it should be noted that nationwide, in hopes of further quickening the massive decreases in population, only same sex marriages are being allowed), they eek out a living serving as live ammo targets for the local military base - fortunately for them, they beat out thousands who applied for the rare job because they were the best at bleating like sheep - (yea, human life has gotten that cheap under Jimboy's snake oil scheme).
-He sure loves to call me Jimboy! (I wonder which not-so-clever point he's trying to make...)

As for level-headed observers, Playwrite means David Krein. I've already pointed out some Mr. Krein's hypocritical inconsistencies, but Mr. Krein (a Silent) seems to have taken it stride. I certainly don't expect to see him fantasize about the fates I supposedly deserve...







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Quote Originally Posted by The Grey Badger View Post
Don't we have a Flame War thread for this sort of discussion? Can these posts be moved there?
Quote Originally Posted by The Wonkette View Post
Or at least move this discussion to a Social Security forum?
Good suggestions. I decided to bail-out after the discussion got circular, but I have to take some of the blame as an active contributor earlier.
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Cool Moving Discussions

Quote Originally Posted by The Grey Badger View Post
Don't we have a Flame War thread for this sort of discussion? Can these posts be moved there?
I confess, I find these kind of typical 'Please move the discussion to the proper thread' requests more than just annoying. They tend to reveal everything I find utterly disappointing about liberals. And that is, you really can't debate a liberal because liberals merely feel things. Liberals don't think about anything, save through the filter of their feelings.

There is no intellectual debate to be had with liberals. Ultimately there is only name calling, with liberals seeking to express their highest lofty moralistic rhetoric (even while they claim that their obvious hypocrisy only stands to buttress their positions) while maintaining their supposed "openness."

The Grey Badger, thus, is quite correct to suggest we move the discussion elsewhere. The appropriate place, however, is not another thread, but, rather, we move them to nowhere.
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Quote Originally Posted by zilch View Post
I confess, I find these kind of typical 'Please move the discussion to the proper thread' requests more than just annoying. They tend to reveal everything I find utterly disappointing about liberals. And that is, you really can't debate a liberal because liberals merely feel things. Liberals don't think about anything, save through the filter of their feelings.

There is no intellectual debate to be had with liberals. Ultimately there is only name calling, with liberals seeking to express their highest lofty moralistic rhetoric (even while they claim that their obvious hypocrisy only stands to buttress their positions) while maintaining their supposed "openness."...
For someone who found no fault with Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, et al, and argued the rightness of their policies, you stand on wobbly legs. This may be the first administration in history that accomplished nothing of a constructive nature ... nothing. TO the contrary, the detritus left for those coming behind is so bad that even loyalists like T. Boone Pickens are now calling them misguided if not outright fools.

Of course you pushed all the emotional buttons in support of these scoundrels, but now it's the liberals that lack intellectual gravitas.
Marx: Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies.
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Quote Originally Posted by jamesdglick View Post
I'm
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beserk
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I've already pointed out like to...fantasize
Yes, you are and do.

I'm offering an avenue of help. However, on the advice of wiser ones, I give it here -
http://www.fourthturning.com/forum/s...&postcount=494
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Discussion

Quote Originally Posted by zilch View Post
...I confess, I find these kind of typical 'Please move the discussion to the proper thread' requests more than just annoying...
-Both Senators McCain & Obama have made the SS Ponzi Scheme an issue of debate in the election, the Election 2008 thread is the obvious place to discuss it. However, that thread was Wonkette's original creation, so she's certainly entitled to ask the question.

I moved the issue of PW's deranged comments here, because that's where we've been discussing such things regarding Pink Splice and others (I beieve your name may have come up, Zilch).

I've found Grey Badger and M&L to be civil, and I've previously declared Wonkette "Most Rigorously Polite Poster on the 4TF".

As for Playwrite... I check a thread called "Flame War", where Playwrite posted this:

Quote Originally Posted by playwrite View Post
...And try to do something with that hair as well as that indoor plumbing -
http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/b...eck_toilet.jpg


- it could change your life. Good luck!...
...which comes up blank, but if you read the url, we discover, what a surprise, it contains the word "toilet". PW actually went to some site called "photobucket" so he could find a photograph with a topic that fills his needs. Go figure. He also posted this:


Quote Originally Posted by playwrite View Post
...I think this would be just perfect for you -

http://www.askuncleralph.com/
Upon clicking this thread, this came up:

"The Websense category "Tasteless" is filtered."[/quote]

Yeah. I'm sure he's really making his point (to someone)...







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Quote Originally Posted by jamesdglick View Post
-Since it's come up during the election, I'd say the Election 2008 thread; it is your thread...
I'd rather not have it there. That thread was intended for political stuff -- what the polls are showing, generational patterns of candidates and voters, etc...
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Quote Originally Posted by The Wonkette View Post
I'd rather not have it there. That thread is for political stuff -- what the polls are showing, generational patterns of candidates and voters, etc...
-Fair enough.







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Quote Originally Posted by jamesdglick View Post
-Fair enough.
Of course, people can post whatever they want -- they do anyway.
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Cool And so the name calling continues...

There is no intellectual debate to be had with liberals. Ultimately there is only name calling, with liberals seeking to express their highest lofty moralistic rhetoric (even while they claim that their obvious hypocrisy only stands to buttress their positions) while maintaining their supposed "openness."...
Quote Originally Posted by Marx & Lennon View Post
For someone who found no fault with Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, et al, and argued the rightness of their policies, you stand on wobbly legs. This may be the first administration in history that accomplished nothing of a constructive nature ... nothing. [delete name calling]
My loudly voiced objections to many Bush policies are well-documented at this forum. Just to name one, no conservative I know approved of the Bush Medicare Drug Act, the largest liberal entitlement give-away program since LBJ's Great Society forty years ago. I certainly didn't, and I said so. What? You disapproved, too?

Like I said, there is no intellectual debate to be had with liberals. None. Zip, zero, zilch.
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Quote Originally Posted by zilch View Post
My loudly voiced objections to many Bush policies are well-documented at this forum. Just to name one, no conservative I know approved of the Bush Medicare Drug Act, the largest liberal entitlement give-away program since LBJ's Great Society forty years ago. I certainly didn't, and I said so. What? You disapproved, too?...
-Fair enough.

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Of course, people can post whatever they want -- they do anyway.
-I wouldn't want people treading on my threads. But, if that's the way you really feel, I'll alert Kathaksung...

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Yes, you are and do...
Playwrite has tried to counter my pointing out his hypocrisies and inconsistencies (supposedly using "unfair parsing") with his silly creations. Whatever. If you click back to the original post on the times I quote him, anyone can see that I'm not taking PW out of context...Oh I'm sorry; this may be an exception:

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...just one last point...
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...I don't give...
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...a flying...
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...F...
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...about...
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...what you think...
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...I did or didn't...
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...do...
...uh, no. The Conviently Mysterious PW actually posted that when I questioned him on some dubious claims he's made over several posts:

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...And just one last point - I don't give a flying F about what you think I did or didn't do.
Sure. That's why he makes stuff up.

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...It is what it is. Keep sharp, stay loose. Deal.
-Ha ha ha ha ha! What action-adventure movie did he get that from? Probably the same one where REMFs and Chairborne Rangers are called "Desk Jockeys". He forgot "Lock & Load" and "Stay Alert, Stay Alive!" (both of which I have used legitimately).

Maybe PW can tell us about his 185th SEAL mission back in "THE NAM", when he rescued LCDR McCain from the Hanoi Hilton, but then had to take him back in order to avoid revealing to the North VietNamese that we'd breached their security. At least that would explain why JMcC seems so bitter all the time...

Whatever.







Post#173 at 07-24-2008 08:52 PM by jamesdglick [at Clarksville, TN joined Mar 2007 #posts 2,007]
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Why PW needs to be re-quoted...

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...you are implying that you are some sort of gentleman; but, then you do exactly the opposite of what those others have politely asked you to do...
-Uh, no.

On the 23rd, I had just posted something on Wonkette's 2008 Election thread:

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-I suspect it will find a return, and, unlike the SS Ponzi Scheme, it will be creating wealth...

...when I noticed this post by Wonkette (posted 4:21PM on the 23rd):

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Or at least move this discussion to a Social Security forum?

...I replied:

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-Since it's come up during the election, I'd say the Election 2008 thread; it is your thread...
...but nonetheless stopped posting on her thread regarding the SS Ponzi Scheme, as Playwrite himself says I should have done. That is more than can be said of:

Bri2k:

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Social Security acts as insurance against downturns in the market...
...and Silifi:

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oh please that explanation makes way too much sense
...and pbrower2a:

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Social Security came into existence in a time in which people often had to work until they dropped dead on the job or else were fired when they failed to come to work...
...and M&L:

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It may be a dawning realization that the current 401k money...
...oh, and this one:

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You've made some good points here and they align with several other posters regarding that SS is primarily an insurance program...
..and this one:

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Good stuff. Hadn't thought about medicine being a route for a SS privatization stimulus out of a deep depression...
...oh, how about this one?

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Some very keen observatons, particularly in regard to the cyclical impact of the 401K monies.
...yeah, three from the same inconsistent hypocrite. This is why I have to keep going back to his old quotes; he contradicts himself, and I have to point it out...

Anyway, Wonkette later explained @11:51PM on the 24th:

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I'd rather not have it there. That thread was intended for political stuff -- what the polls are showing, generational patterns of candidates and voters, etc...

...to which I replied:

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-Fair enough.
...and a check of the 2008 Election thread will show that I haven't posted there since the 23rd.


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...Deeds speak louder than words, Jimboy...
-Yeah, they do.

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...You seem to have a general problem with context as I have indicated repeatedly about your parsing....
-No, as seen above, thru' yet ANOTHER example of PW's hypocrisy, I don't take his, or anyone elses' quotes out of context (well, to the best of my knowledge). I suspect the reason PW harps on it so much, is that he doesn't like it when his hypocrisies keep coming back to haunt him...

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...If you got the fortitude as well as even a hint of the gentleman persona you think you have, you'll delete your post on that other thread and re-post it here...
...I suppose he means my posts in the Generational Theory Forum thread, where 4TFers have discussed abusive behavior on the 4TF. We'll, I posted it hereto point out PW's most recent (and pointless) post:

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...Retiree #3 - Under Jimboy Snake Oil - Having seen most of his loved ones killed or die from starvation, Retiree #3 sets out on a quest to find one of those responsible for foisting the Snake Oil upon the once great Nation. He finds one Jimboy attempting to eek out a living in trailer in Clarksville, Tennessee. Jimboy's military pension was terminated because the US could only afford a very small military of "wolves" between ages 15 to 17. Needless to say, Jimboy lost all his money "investing" in the tulip frenzy - just one of thousands of asset inflation busts that have wiped out most Americans. Rather than kill Jimboy, Retiree #3 falls instantly in love with Jimboy and after getting married (it should be noted that nationwide, in hopes of further quickening the massive decreases in population, only same sex marriages are being allowed), they eek out a living serving as live ammo targets for the local military base - fortunately for them, they beat out thousands who applied for the rare job because they were the best at bleating like sheep - (yea, human life has gotten that cheap under Jimboy's snake oil scheme).
...not because I want it deleted, but to inform everyone else on the 4TF what a creep PW is, in case they haven't figured it out for themselves.

As yet another reminder of PW's abusive behavior, and asan explanation of how my "parsing" is both fair and neccessary, I'll put this in the Generational Theory Forum thread...







Post#174 at 07-25-2008 01:13 PM by jamesdglick [at Clarksville, TN joined Mar 2007 #posts 2,007]
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Oops.

Dear Mr. Chelsog,

I discovered that the following was deleted on your orders:

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But it may be a necessity. Often, I have to carry nearly 250 kgs in my little compact to do my job. Plus I hump the load myself, often several hundred meters. Not fun, if you are crowding fifty.

Corrected the spelling for TN. I'll chalk up the crankiness to your upcoming PCS.

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...The censored comment was:

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Note: If your tour had turned out differently, one IED would have made you a gimp...
...and concluded with words to the effect of "in a collision between a truck and a bicycle, the bicycle loses."

This was targeted at me. I personally found the comment odd at the time (and somewhat lacking in patriotism), but I only brought it up in this thread to show that some of Pink Splice's other posts, which were undeniably tasteless, were not isolated incidents. It was not my intention to censor anyone, and this could have the effect of "disappearing the record"; it's more illustrative to leave it up.







Post#175 at 07-26-2008 05:53 PM by jamesdglick [at Clarksville, TN joined Mar 2007 #posts 2,007]
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Playwrite, again

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While sometimes maddening, responding to your posts have occassionally been interesting...
-By which he means stuff like this:

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...What's really funny is letting some loser in a backwoods trailer bring it out in me.
...and this:

Quote Originally Posted by playwrite View Post
...Retiree #3 - Under Jimboy Snake Oil - Having seen most of his loved ones killed or die from starvation, Retiree #3 sets out on a quest to find one of those responsible for foisting the Snake Oil upon the once great Nation. He finds one Jimboy attempting to eek out a living in trailer in Clarksville, Tennessee. Jimboy's military pension was terminated because the US could only afford a very small military of "wolves" between ages 15 to 17. Needless to say, Jimboy lost all his money "investing" in the tulip frenzy - just one of thousands of asset inflation busts that have wiped out most Americans. Rather than kill Jimboy, Retiree #3 falls instantly in love with Jimboy and after getting married (it should be noted that nationwide, in hopes of further quickening the massive decreases in population, only same sex marriages are being allowed), they eek out a living serving as live ammo targets for the local military base - fortunately for them, they beat out thousands who applied for the rare job because they were the best at bleating like sheep - (yea, human life has gotten that cheap under Jimboy's snake oil scheme).
Yeah...

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...I think, however, we are wearing out our welcome by others, and not just the ones you dislike but the ones you have some respect if not admiration for...You'll still get your audience, but it will be one that willingly chooses such entertainment...
-Probable hypocrisy.

I also find the sudden syrupy wheddling suspicious; he didn't even include a url with the word "toilet" in it.

My rules:

If someone doesn't want me on their thread, fair enough. Technically, this entitlement goes only to Mr. Neil Howe and his Shire Reeve (the webmaster), but in this case, I'll recognize "Squatters' Rights" as well.

As for everyone else: "Ignore" is for cowards; if you think a post is too long, boring, unenlightening, or a combination of all three, then learn how to use your "Scroll" function.

BTW, I thought the word "admiration" was a bit much, but then he's probably being sarcastic, or perhaps he simply doesn't understand what it really means.

Quote Originally Posted by playwrite View Post
...Can we agree to respond to each other on this thread?... As you have done above, it is fairly easy to drag over any post or a parse from another thread to here.
-On reflection, I get why PW is so desperate to hide in a place called "Flame War": To equate his abusiveness, his hypocrisy, and his fraud to my documentation of his abusiveness,hishypocrisy, and his fraud (what he calls "parsing").

Unfortunately for Playwrite, he knows that what I do, i.e. comaparing his inconsistent statements and hypocrisies with each other, constitutes a valid criticism of his arguments and logical process. Meanwhile, plenty of the stuff which he has posted could get his posts removed. Now, I would never ask the webmaster to do such a thing; if it happened, I would keep copies of what PW has posted, as a documentation of what a liar, coward and creep he is, as a warning to others. Actually, that's a good idea. 'Glad I thought of it (a while ago...).

So, his "Flame War" Strategy was a clever idea. But, unlike it won't work.
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