Originally Posted by independent

Seriously, if there was ever a symbol of arbitrary authority & opulence colored by a history of violence & imperialism, its that crown on her head. Why isn't he spending time with the Prime Minster & Cabinet officials, and why are anti-authoritarians so quick to defend the delicate sensibilities of one of the world's most undeservingly spoiled people?

Except that I'm not talking about the Queen's sensibilities; it has so happened that i've spent the last two weeks in the company of a englishman (from near Manchester, no less -- will the cliches never cease!). He was insulted by what the boorish official US representative did. And I was embarrassed -- and not I alone -- to be associated with the type to do such a thing.

The Queen is a symbol; you wouldn't think very highly of a foreigner who blew his nose on the flag, would you? This is no different.

NO. This is this. This isn't something else.

Originally Posted by Justin '77

Except that I'm not talking about the Queen's sensibilities; it has so happened that i've spent the last two weeks in the company of a englishman (from near Manchester, no less -- will the cliches never cease!). He was insulted by what the boorish official US representative did. And I was embarrassed -- and not I alone -- to be associated with the type to do such a thing.

The Queen is a symbol; you wouldn't think very highly of a foreigner who blew his nose on the flag, would you? This is no different.

Bullcrap. She's a human being. She had a human, spontaneous, *positive* response to Mrs. Obama. The Manchesterian is the boor here.

The First Lady was just practicing the long tradition of the Ugly Commercial Republican; she was a boorette. If we could only learn to "keep our hands to ourselves" in the Public Schools of America; this would not have happened.

I think HM Elizabeth II of the House Sax-Coburg-Gotha has dealt long enough with the Lower Orders & Commercial Republicans to survive this assult upon Her Person.

If the FLOTUS had been brave enough to toast "the King Over the Water" (in Bavaria); I would give her great credit. But, she was just another Commercial Republican acting out of place in the islands off the Eurasian coast. Nothing new about that.

Originally Posted by Child of Socrates

Bullcrap. She's a human being.

She's both. And the fact that some people refuse to recognize the contexts in which the one is more significant than the other speaks more about them than it does about her or the people who hold her as a symbol.

Originally Posted by Justin '77

She's both. And the fact that some people refuse to recognize the contexts in which the one is more significant than the other speaks more about them than it does about her or the people who hold her as a symbol.

What was significant is that the Queen initiated the contact. It would have been shameful for Mrs. Obama not to reciprocate.

The boorette abroad; also consider the Secretary of State's inquiry as to the artist in question in the matter of a Lower American Image. The S.W.O.T.E. was informed it was an even Higher Power than the POTUS.

Originally Posted by Virgil K. Saari

The boorette abroad; also consider the Secretary of State's inquiry as to the artist in question in the matter of a Lower American Image. The S.W.O.T.E. was informed it was an even Higher Power than the POTUS.

A lot of ink and effort has been wasted on these sorts of claims. Regretfully, there still seems to be an audience for them.

Fox News just reported that the state governments of four different states are seriously considering secession because of the Obama affront. They want it on record when the Brits retaliate with their nuclear strike.

The "articulate" President Obama attempted to speak without his teleprompter:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2009/08/11/roundtable_on_obamas_town_hall_meeting_97870.html

"I think private insurers should be able to compete. They do it all the time. If you think about it, you know, UPS and Fedex are doing just fine. No, they are. The Post Office is always having problems..."

Dooh!

The WaPo version of the Savior's words are slightly different:

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/federal-eye/2009/08/the_president_and_the_postal_s.html?wprss=federal-eye

"I mean, if you think about it, UPS and FedEx are doing just fine, right? No, they are. It's the post office that's always having problems."

...but the content is still, well, like, you know, no really...

I can just imagine Odin's reaction: "Liar! Liar! Liar!"

Ha! Ha! Ha!

I'd still love to see BO's SAT score compared to GWBs.

I'm not holding my breath.


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Back to Playwrite:

I'd still love to know: When PW was supposedly visiting SE Asia, did he bother to check out the "Anti-War" movement's handiwork in the re-education camps, and in the killing fields? The answer seems to be NO...

Back to Haymarket':

I'd still love to know: Who paid Haymarket's Military Service Tax? Come on, I know you're retired, Haymarket. I'd think it'd be easy to go check out the old county draft records from 1969. You can look the guy up, and thank him for his inconvenience...

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Originally Posted by haymarket martyr

WARNING: The poster known as jamesdglick has a history of engaging in fraud. He makes things up out of his own head and attempts to use these blatant lies to score points in his arguments. When you call him on it, he will only lie further. He has such a reputation for doing this that many people here are cowed into silence and will not acknowledge it or confront him on it.

Anyone who attempts to engage with glick will discover this and find out you have wasted your time and energy on an intellectual fraud of the worst sort.

-So cry many Boomers (self-professed Lefties, mostly) whenever they fail to explain their hypocritical self-justifications, their double-standards, and their double-think forays into evil. Perhaps their consciences bother them, perhaps not. Who knows.

President Obama and the Austrian "language":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAmaGgBrDAs

Ah! Imagine the non-stop fun the MSM would have had if it had been GWB.

Or better yet, Sarah Palin!

Where's Anniefey?

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George Will on the junk that BO allows to come out of his teleprompter:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2009/10/06/olympic_gold_for_narcissism_98591.html

When will people learn that foreigners only "love" BO when they think they can use him as their bitch?

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Originally Posted by haymarket martyr

WARNING: The poster known as jamesdglick has a history of engaging in fraud. He makes things up out of his own head and attempts to use these blatant lies to score points in his arguments. When you call him on it, he will only lie further. He has such a reputation for doing this that many people here are cowed into silence and will not acknowledge it or confront him on it.

Anyone who attempts to engage with glick will discover this and find out you have wasted your time and energy on an intellectual fraud of the worst sort.

-So cry many Boomers (self-professed Lefties, mostly) whenever they fail to explain their hypocritical self-justifications, their double-standards, and their double-think forays into evil. Perhaps their consciences bother them, perhaps not. Who knows.

Everybody on the internet knows that Austrian is not a language. It is the upside down fantasyland of economics.

Perhaps President Obama has too much on his plate for the teeny tiny things of trivia.

Originally Posted by haymarket martyr

Everybody on the internet knows that Austrian is not a language. It is the upside down fantasyland of economics...

-Apparently, President Obama, his speechwriters, and the guy who fixes his teleprompter are not on the internet...

Originally Posted by haymarket martyr

Perhaps President Obama has too much on his plate for the teeny tiny things of trivia...

-A more likely answer to BO's faux pas is that BO isn't as smart as the Full-Frontal Obotomy crowd claims.

BTW, I'll bet that wasn't Haymarket's attitude to a POTUS making a verbal faux pas two years ago.

BTW, what was BO's SAT score?

Originally Posted by Child of Socrates

I think you missed my point. Some (not I, to the best of my recollection) used to call George W. Bush the "Chimp-in-Chief" or the "Chimperor" or other similar terms. It was a slur against his perceived lack of intelligence, not his race.

-The same goes for President Obama, who constantly proves how inarticulate he is without his teleprompter.

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Originally Posted by haymarket martyr

WARNING: The poster known as jamesdglick has a history of engaging in fraud. He makes things up out of his own head and attempts to use these blatant lies to score points in his arguments. When you call him on it, he will only lie further. He has such a reputation for doing this that many people here are cowed into silence and will not acknowledge it or confront him on it.

Anyone who attempts to engage with glick will discover this and find out you have wasted your time and energy on an intellectual fraud of the worst sort.

-So cry many Boomers like Haymarket & Playwrite whenever they fail to explain their hypocritical self-justifications, their double-standards, and their double-think forays into evil. Perhaps their consciences bother them, perhaps not. Who knows.

Originally Posted by Child of Socrates

If private insurers say that the marketplace provides the best quality health care; if they tell us that they're offering a good deal, then why is it that the government, which they say can't run anything, suddenly is going to drive them out of business? That's not logical." -- President Obama, 6/23/09

-It's only illogical to a moron Leftie like President Obama (and his sycophantess, COS). The government has a nearly unlimited amount of cash to waste on its failed projects, courtesy of the US taxpayer. In this case, private insurers get the privilige of subsidizing their own competition at the point of a gun. Sweet.

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Originally Posted by haymarket martyr

WARNING: The poster known as jamesdglick has a history of engaging in fraud. He makes things up out of his own head and attempts to use these blatant lies to score points in his arguments. When you call him on it, he will only lie further. He has such a reputation for doing this that many people here are cowed into silence and will not acknowledge it or confront him on it.

Anyone who attempts to engage with glick will discover this and find out you have wasted your time and energy on an intellectual fraud of the worst sort.

-So cry many Boomers like Haymarket & Playwrite whenever they fail to explain their hypocritical self-justifications, their double-standards, and their double-think forays into evil. Perhaps their consciences bother them, perhaps not. Who knows.

On the Teleprompter-in-Chief:

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/editorials/talk_to_the_hand_XsRXKpdIqkn25xit1Ig9HL

Extract:

...Now, Gibbs is a guy who works for a fellow who can't order breakfast without the assistance of a TelePrompTer.
Just last month, his overworked 'PrompTer platoon had to set one up just so President Obama could deliver prepared remarks to a class of Virginia sixth- graders, for Pete's sake.

So how dumb does that make him?

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Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/editorials/talk_to_the_hand_XsRXKpdIqkn25xit1Ig9HL#ixzz0fFHbK HFC

And this from the Master of Elucidation:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2010/02/04/obama_mispronounces_corpsman_at_prayer_breakfast.h tml

Corpse-man! Corpse-man!

Originally Posted by haymarket martyr

WARNING: The poster known as jamesdglick has a history of engaging in fraud. He makes things up out of his own head and attempts to use these blatant lies to score points in his arguments. When you call him on it, he will only lie further. He has such a reputation for doing this that many people here are cowed into silence and will not acknowledge it or confront him on it.

Anyone who attempts to engage with glick will discover this and find out you have wasted your time and energy on an intellectual fraud of the worst sort.

-So cry many Boomers like Haymarket & Playwrite whenever they fail to explain their hypocritical self-justifications, their double-standards, and their double-think forays into evil. Perhaps their consciences bother them, perhaps not. Who knows.

Since the topic returned, I thought I'd give everyone a little reminder:

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/03/18/obama.transcript/

Given my background, my politics, and my professed values and ideals, there will no doubt be those for whom my statements of condemnation are not enough. Why associate myself with Rev. Wright in the first place, they may ask? Why not join another church...

...I can no more disown him than I can disown the black community. I can no more disown him than I can my white grandmother...

...which brings up the following question: Will President Obama ever get around to dis-owning his white grandmother?

BTW, was I the only one who noticed his insulting attempt at changing the subject (after all, plenty of white churches hoot & holler as well):

Like other black churches, Trinity's services are full of raucous laughter and sometimes bawdy humor. They are full of dancing, clapping, screaming and shouting that may seem jarring to the untrained ear.

...it wasn't that the congregation was hootin' & hollerin', its what they were hootin' & hollerin' at...

Originally Posted by haymarket martyr

WARNING: The poster known as jamesdglick has a history of engaging in fraud. He makes things up out of his own head and attempts to use these blatant lies to score points in his arguments. When you call him on it, he will only lie further. He has such a reputation for doing this that many people here are cowed into silence and will not acknowledge it or confront him on it.

Anyone who attempts to engage with glick will discover this and find out you have wasted your time and energy on an intellectual fraud of the worst sort.

...So cry many Boomers like Haymarket & Playwrite whenever they fail to explain their hypocritical self-justifications, their double-standards, and their double-think forays into evil. Perhaps their consciences bother them, perhaps not. Who knows.

A word such as PATHETIC seems understated here.

Originally Posted by haymarket martyr

A word such as PATHETIC seems understated here...

-Yes, President Obama's claim that he couldn't recognize an anti-American racist after sitting in his church for 20 years, when anyone with common sense could have figured it out in 20 minutes, is pathetic.

But its still funny how he claimed that he "could no more disown" JW than his own grandmother, within one month of disowning him. That's funny.

Originally Posted by haymarket martyr

WARNING: The poster known as jamesdglick has a history of engaging in fraud. He makes things up out of his own head and attempts to use these blatant lies to score points in his arguments. When you call him on it, he will only lie further. He has such a reputation for doing this that many people here are cowed into silence and will not acknowledge it or confront him on it.

Anyone who attempts to engage with glick will discover this and find out you have wasted your time and energy on an intellectual fraud of the worst sort.

...So cry many Boomers like Haymarket & Playwrite whenever they fail to explain their hypocritical self-justifications, their double-standards, and their double-think forays into evil. Perhaps their consciences bother them, perhaps not. Who knows.

The "corpsman" thing from a while back was most unfortunate - reinforcing as it did the stereotype that Democrats are oblivious to all things related to the military.

Originally Posted by '58 Flat

The "corpsman" thing from a while back was most unfortunate - reinforcing as it did the stereotype that Democrats are oblivious to all things related to the military...

-More like revealing, particulalry when you talk about limousine liberals and chardonnay socialists...

I thought it was funny, by in an unfunny sort of way.

Originally Posted by haymarket martyr

WARNING: The poster known as jamesdglick has a history of engaging in fraud. He makes things up out of his own head and attempts to use these blatant lies to score points in his arguments. When you call him on it, he will only lie further. He has such a reputation for doing this that many people here are cowed into silence and will not acknowledge it or confront him on it.

Anyone who attempts to engage with glick will discover this and find out you have wasted your time and energy on an intellectual fraud of the worst sort.

...So cry many Boomers like Haymarket & Playwrite whenever they fail to explain their hypocritical self-justifications, their double-standards, and their double-think forays into evil. Perhaps their consciences bother them, perhaps not. Who knows.

http://www.ocregister.com/opinion/pearl-249812-daniel-obama.html

"Obviously, the loss of Daniel Pearl was one of those moments that captured the world's imagination because it reminded us of how valuable a free press is."

Now Obama's off the prompter, when his silver-tongued rhetoric invariably turns to sludge. But he's talking about a dead man here, a guy murdered in public for all the world to see. Furthermore, the deceased's family is standing all around him. And, even for a busy president, it's the work of moments to come up with a sentence that would be respectful, moving and true. Indeed, for Obama, it's the work of seconds, because he has a taxpayer-funded staff sitting around all day with nothing to do but provide him with that sentence.

Instead, he delivered the one above, which in its clumsiness and insipidness is most revealing. First of all, note the passivity: "The loss of Daniel Pearl." He wasn't "lost." He was kidnapped and beheaded. He was murdered on a snuff video. He was specifically targeted, seized as a trophy, a high-value scalp. And the circumstances of his "loss" merit some vigor in the prose. Yet Obama can muster none...

But what did the "loss" of Daniel Pearl mean? Well, says the president, it was "one of those moments that captured the world's imagination." Really? Evidently it never captured Obama's imagination because, if it had, he could never have uttered anything so fatuous...

Originally Posted by haymarket martyr

WARNING: The poster known as jamesdglick has a history of engaging in fraud. He makes things up out of his own head and attempts to use these blatant lies to score points in his arguments. When you call him on it, he will only lie further. He has such a reputation for doing this that many people here are cowed into silence and will not acknowledge it or confront him on it.

Anyone who attempts to engage with glick will discover this and find out you have wasted your time and energy on an intellectual fraud of the worst sort.

...So cry many Boomers like Haymarket & Playwrite whenever they fail to explain their hypocritical self-justifications, their double-standards, and their double-think forays into evil. Perhaps their consciences bother them, perhaps not. Who knows.

Op-ed pieces are not themselves news -- and not sources. At best they are literature (Mike Royko and Bill Buckley come to mind).

A free press is precious; it can show that so-called revolutionaries are swine; it can show that a leader who professes innocence and who is widely lionized (because people are either bought or cowed) isn't as good as he is said to be. It can also expose thugs like the murderers of Daniel Pearl for what they are.

The best that any of us can ever hope to do is to deal with objective reality instead of with spin, superstition, and propaganda. Journalists at their best can offer us the alternative.

WOW!!!!
It is now May of 2010 and the election has been over for a year and a half but Glick is still jawing on about Jeremiah Wright. A good therapist - as well as a good calendar - should be consulted about this problem. Of course, this advice is being given to somebody who is still fighting the battles of the Red Scare and McCarthyism through Viet Nam.

incoming... incoming ... duck and cover .... flashback time again Glick?

Originally Posted by haymarket martyr

WOW!!!!
It is now May of 2010 and the election has been over for a year and a half but Glick is still jawing on about Jeremiah Wright...

-Yes. Let's not talk about the racist dirtbag who the POTUS tolerated for 20 years and called a "mentor". Which is the real Obama? The one who ate Wright's stuff up, or the one who pitched him overboard?

Originally Posted by haymarket martyr

WARNING: The poster known as jamesdglick has a history of engaging in fraud. He makes things up out of his own head and attempts to use these blatant lies to score points in his arguments. When you call him on it, he will only lie further. He has such a reputation for doing this that many people here are cowed into silence and will not acknowledge it or confront him on it.

Anyone who attempts to engage with glick will discover this and find out you have wasted your time and energy on an intellectual fraud of the worst sort.

...So cry many Boomers like Haymarket whenever they fail to explain their hypocritical self-justifications, their double-standards, and their double-think forays into evil. Perhaps their consciences bother them, perhaps not. Who knows.

The election was in November of 2008 glick. Get over it. You should have watched the big finish to LOST the other night. The whole message was letting go and moving on. You could have learned something. Maybe you would have even got a letter of commendation to take home to the folks or something you could post here showing us what bright boy you really are.