Wife of Forefather, Daughter of Soldier who served under the Swamp Fox in SC.Originally Posted by wtrg8
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Wife of Forefather, Daughter of Soldier who served under the Swamp Fox in SC.
Disconnect?
Did you leave out some greats, or are you from a long lived family? William Penn died in 1718. The 30 Years War ended in 1648.
I had the same question. . .
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I was just saying how far back each side stretched starting from my grandparents. So if you researched my paternal grandmother's side it first came to this country with William Penn & the main reason why was the 30 Years War displacement that had caused the family to be poor & persecuted. I don't think you want me to sit down here and type out twenty-some greats. ;-)
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Dude, I'm not going along with a move towards socialism. I have a pretty good idea where that road is going to lead.
I don't know. If you said you opposed the bill, and the pollster then asked whether you opposed it because it was too liberal or because it was not liberal enough, what would you answer?
Honestly, I have no idea what you mean by "systemic health care reform," nor do I know why you don't approve of the bill, nor do I know what you, personally mean by "go far enough." So your question can't be answered at present.
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FWIW, I went to a Youth for Socialist Action meeting tonight (non-sectarian Trotskyist group) and they were NOT HAPPY that progressives relented.
Pretty much. I would like something like Canada's single payer system.
To recommend thrift to the poor is both grotesque and insulting. It is like advising a man who is starving to eat less.
-Oscar Wilde, The Soul of Man under Socialism
I was thinking more along the line of the Banksters. And I was being a bit flippant.Bravely spoken.
You have no idea the forces you would unleash if you go down a violent path.
I hope all the people who think HCR is worth killing someone over will meet somewhere out in the desert and get rid of each other. Leave me and mine out of it.
James50
To recommend thrift to the poor is both grotesque and insulting. It is like advising a man who is starving to eat less.
-Oscar Wilde, The Soul of Man under Socialism
There is no "socialism" in this bill, dammit! Quit spewing blatant ignorant nonsense.
To recommend thrift to the poor is both grotesque and insulting. It is like advising a man who is starving to eat less.
-Oscar Wilde, The Soul of Man under Socialism
Nor should they be.
It is not their job to defend the means of gaining the ends of the governing coalition.
Their jobs is to challenge the system to reach for what they see as a greater end.
Challenging the system without harming others is an honorable thing.
That is utterly hilarious... "I'll" get the Congress back? My side? What are you smoking???
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You can please some of the people some of the time . . .
Americans have had enough of glitz and roar . . Foreboding has deepened, and spiritual currents have darkened . . .
THE FOURTH TURNING IS AT HAND.
See T4T, p. 253.
I am seeing vitriol I am not accustomed to all over Facebook. There are people who literally believe we are living in a state/society requiring a "Velvet Revolution". This includes family members that are frighteningly upset.
I even have one FB "friend", a diehard "libertarian" and "Christian", talking of "war". When he made a comment stating all Democrats were "idiotic" I questioned him about it. He said I was "welcome to live in another country".
Considering where we are in the saecular cycle, I'd say the ever-heating rhetoric in the Fox Nation is a very dangerous sign and that Fox's complicitness in this is far, far more dangerous than Roger Ailes knows.
Americans have had enough of glitz and roar . . Foreboding has deepened, and spiritual currents have darkened . . .
THE FOURTH TURNING IS AT HAND.
See T4T, p. 253.
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It's not just there... one need only look at these boards to see people on both sides spewing rhetoric. If you even dare to question their assertions, they attack you personally. The funny thing is, they're just like the people they profess to hate... and they cannot step outside of their vitriol long enough to recognize it. Everywhere you go -- blogs, local media boards, Facebook -- it's like this.
I see why S&H said that it takes a violent turn before it gets better.
I don't know why you single out Fox. MSNBC's evening lineup - Ed Schulz, Chris Matthews, Keith Olbermann, and Rachel Maddow are just as inflammatory. The only difference is the audience size.(Fox is much much higher.)
For me, both Fox and MSNBC are practically unwatchable.
James50
The whole modern world has divided itself into Conservatives and Progressives. The business of Progressives is to go on making mistakes. The business of the Conservatives is to prevent the mistakes from being corrected. - G.K. Chesterton
Yep, I didn't like Gore or his position on control. I made my decission at the ballot box. As for 04', Kerry was a joke and my position was basically... it's wise not to change the captain in mid-stream...stay the coarse. I'll never vote Democrat or left again, I can see very clearly both are alligned with government control. My view is, we are on a natural coarse or path towards seperation or conflict.
Last edited by K-I-A 67; 03-23-2010 at 09:42 AM.
I don't get the issue with Fox. I watch Fox most of the time. I view Fox as so much more open and honest as far as opinion. MSNBC just plain turns me off. They're always whining about the world, whining about rejection and calling everyone who disagrees or opposes their views stupid. The people just turn me off. The progressives and their view in general just turn me off.
Of course you don't. Fox reinforces your world view.
And Glenn Beck doesn't?
The analogs to the MSNBC crew are Beck, O'Reilly, and Hannity. I don't find them fun to watch but millions do.
James50
Last edited by James50; 03-23-2010 at 10:01 AM.
The whole modern world has divided itself into Conservatives and Progressives. The business of Progressives is to go on making mistakes. The business of the Conservatives is to prevent the mistakes from being corrected. - G.K. Chesterton
