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Post#1126 at 08-05-2010 05:16 PM by Tone70 [at Omaha joined Apr 2010 #posts 1,473]
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Talking James they're playing your song.

"Dancing With Myself"

On the floor of Tokyo
Or down in London town to go, go
With the record selection
And the mirror's reflection
I'm dancing with myself

When there's no-one else in sight
In the crowded lonely night
Well I wait so long
For my love vibration
And I'm dancing with myself

Oh dancing with myself
Oh dancing with myself
Well there's nothing to lose
And there's nothing to prove
I'll be dancing with myself

If I looked all over the world
And there's every type of girl
But your empty eyes
Seem to pass me by
Leave me dancing with myself

So let's sink another drink
'Cause it'll give me time to think
If I had the chance
I'd ask the world to dance
And I'll be dancing with myself

Oh dancing with myself
Oh dancing with myself
Well there's nothing to lose
And there's nothing to prove
I'll be dancing with myself

If I looked all over the world
And there's every type of girl
But your empty eyes
Seem to pass me by
Leave me dancing with myself

So let's sink another drink
'Cause it'll give me time to think
If I had the chance
I'd ask the world to dance
And I'll be dancing with myself

Oh dancing with myself
Oh dancing with myself
If I had the chance
I'd ask the world to dance
If I had the chance
I'd ask the world to dance
If I had the chance
I'd ask the world to dance

[Scat]

Dancing with myself
Dancing with myself
Dancing with myself
Dancing with myself

If I looked all over the world
And there's every type of girl
But your empty eyes
Seem to pass me by
Leave me dancing with myself

So let's sink another drink
'Cause it'll give me time to think
If I had the chance
I'd ask the world to dance
And I'll be dancing with myself

Oh dancing with myself
Oh dancing with myself
If I had the chance
I'd ask the world to dance
If I had the chance
I'd ask the world to dance
If I had the chance
I'd ask the world to dance

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Post#1127 at 08-05-2010 05:22 PM by jamesdglick [at Clarksville, TN joined Mar 2007 #posts 2,007]
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Quote Originally Posted by Tone70 View Post
James they're playing your song...
1) You got the wrong tune;

2) It's a song that needs playing.

An Encore:

Looks like this:

Quote Originally Posted by Odin View Post
I have been shocked and disgusted by this orgy of right-wing hate, starting with people going "KILL HIM!!!" at Palin's rallies last summer.
was a lie:

http://www.salon.com/news/politics/war_room/2008/10/16/kill_him/print.html

The Secret Service says allegations that attendees at two of Sarah Palin's rallies called for the death of Barack Obama are unfounded...

These claims were also lies:

http://politifi.com/news/Video-Proof-No-Tea-Party-Protesters-Really-Didnt-Call-Anyone-The-NWord-312377.html

But now, via Jim Hoft , comes video showing that no such words were said at all...

You really shouldn't jump to conclusions, oh self-proclaimed One-Eyed God of Wisdom; it only feeds the spiral.

Quote Originally Posted by haymarket martyr View Post
WARNING: The poster known as jamesdglick has a history of engaging in fraud. He makes things up out of his own head and attempts to use these blatant lies to score points in his arguments. When you call him on it, he will only lie further. He has such a reputation for doing this that many people here are cowed into silence and will not acknowledge it or confront him on it.

Anyone who attempts to engage with glick will discover this and find out you have wasted your time and energy on an intellectual fraud of the worst sort.
...So cry many Boomers like Haymarket whenever they fail to explain their hypocritical self-justifications, their double-standards, and their double-think forays into evil. Perhaps their consciences bother them, perhaps not. Who knows!








Post#1128 at 08-06-2010 12:10 AM by Odin [at Moorhead, MN, USA joined Sep 2006 #posts 14,442]
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Dammit, Glick, how many times do I have to ask you to QUIT STALKING ME?
To recommend thrift to the poor is both grotesque and insulting. It is like advising a man who is starving to eat less.

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Post#1129 at 08-07-2010 12:49 PM by jamesdglick [at Clarksville, TN joined Mar 2007 #posts 2,007]
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Quote Originally Posted by Odin View Post
Dammit, Glick, how many times do I have to ask you to QUIT STALKING ME?
-Dammit Odin, how many times do I have to ask you to STOP PRPOGATING LIES:

1) ...Never happened (a LIE):

Quote Originally Posted by jamesdglick View Post




The Secret Service says allegations that attendees at two of Sarah Palin's rallies called for the death of Barack Obama are unfounded...

2)
Quote Originally Posted by Odin View Post
I have been shocked and disgusted by this orgy of right-wing hate, starting with people going "KILL HIM!!!" at Palin's rallies last summer.
...never happened (a LIE):

Quote Originally Posted by jamesdglick View Post
http://politifi.com/news/Video-Proof-No-Tea-Party-Protesters-Really-Didnt-Call-Anyone-The-NWord-312377.html


But now, via Jim Hoft , comes video showing that no such words were said at all...

3)
Quote Originally Posted by Odin View Post
I am almost speechless. Republican TERRORISM, that is what this is. Send Limbaugh, Beck, Bachmann, and Palin to Gitmo!
...Didn't happen (a LIE):

Quote Originally Posted by jamesdglick View Post
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/federal-eye/2009/11/census_worker_killing_probe_ne.html

The Census Bureau employee found dead in September killed himself and staged his death to look like a homicide, state and federal law enforcement officials said Tuesday...

4)
Quote Originally Posted by Odin View Post
Looks like Cantor was lying his ass off.
...uh, it did happen (YOU LIED):

Quote Originally Posted by jamesdglick View Post
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=133821

The only member of Congress to have experienced a bona fide act of violence was a Republican, Rep. Eric Cantor of Virginia, who had gunshot go through his window and has received actual anti-Semitic threats faxed to him...

5)
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Wow, more shameless lies.
...uh, Coughlin was "Social Justice" Progressive who supported FDR, who was happy for his support (YOU LIED):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Coughlin

Early in his career Coughlin was a vocal supporter of Franklin D. Roosevelt and his early New Deal proposals, before later becoming a harsh critic of Roosevelt... He was an early supporter of Roosevelt's New Deal reforms and coined the phrase "Roosevelt or ruin", which became famous during the early days of the first FDR administration. Another phrase he became known for was "The New Deal is Christ's Deal."

Coughlin's support for Roosevelt and his New Deal faded later in 1934, when he founded the National Union for Social Justice (NUSJ), a nationalistic worker's rights organization which grew impatient with what it viewed as the President's unconstitutional and pseudo-capitalistic monetary policies...

Among the articles of the NUSJ, were work and income guarantees, nationalizing "necessary" industry, wealth redistribution through taxation of the wealthy, federal protection of worker's unions, and decreasing property rights in favor of the government controlling the country's assets for "public good."[10] Illustrative of his disdain for capitalism is his statement that, "We maintain the principle that there can be no lasting prosperity if free competition exists in industry. Therefore, it is the business of government not only to legislate for a minimum annual wage and maximum working schedule to be observed by industry, but also to curtail individualism that, if necessary, factories shall be licensed and their output shall be limited."

...BTW, oh One-Eyed God of Wisdom, which of the above policies would you DISAGREE with?

Ahem.

6)
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...Oh, but now there is a n***** in the White House, so it's different...
...uh, YOU LIED:

Quote Originally Posted by Justin '77 View Post
So funny that you think this guy had a problem with a melanin-enhanced dude in the white house.

So, I notice that you like to put your Keyboard in motion before putting your Asperberger brain in gear in order to propogate lies which induce hate and are likely contribute to a possibele "spiral of violence".

When will you stop?

Quote Originally Posted by haymarket martyr View Post
WARNING: The poster known as jamesdglick has a history of engaging in fraud. He makes things up out of his own head and attempts to use these blatant lies to score points in his arguments. When you call him on it, he will only lie further. He has such a reputation for doing this that many people here are cowed into silence and will not acknowledge it or confront him on it.

Anyone who attempts to engage with glick will discover this and find out you have wasted your time and energy on an intellectual fraud of the worst sort.
...So cry many Boomers like Haymarket whenever they fail to explain their hypocritical self-justifications, their double-standards, and their double-think forays into evil. Perhaps their consciences bother them, perhaps not. Who knows!








Post#1130 at 08-07-2010 03:37 PM by Tone70 [at Omaha joined Apr 2010 #posts 1,473]
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Crazy is not crazt if your right?

Jimmy's point is that it's Okay for him to obsessivelly stalk, be meanly antagonistic and creepy crazy as long as his victim, ahem, target, is in his eyes somehow

WRONG.

The fact that he gets his little man jollies from it is entirely beside the point. Right jimmy?
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Post#1131 at 08-07-2010 09:56 PM by Odin [at Moorhead, MN, USA joined Sep 2006 #posts 14,442]
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Quote Originally Posted by Tone70 View Post
Jimmy's point is that it's Okay for to him obsesivelly stalk, be meanly antagonist and creepy crazy as long as his victim, ahem, target, is in his eyes somehow

WRONG.

The fact that he gets his little man jollies from it is entirely beside the point. Right jimmy?
Worse than that, he uses employment issues stemming from my Asperger's to call me a lazy hobo. He's a first-class jerk.
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Post#1132 at 08-07-2010 10:11 PM by Justin '77 [at Meh. joined Sep 2001 #posts 12,182]
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Quote Originally Posted by Odin View Post
Worse than that, he uses employment issues stemming from my Asperger's to call me a lazy hobo. He's a first-class jerk.
Which is really funny, coming from him. Don't forget, he's a guy who revels in having spent his entire life doing nothing but sucking from the public tit.

I'd prefer an honest, as-yet-unemployed young person to a lifelong never-had-a-real-job parasite, anyday.
"Qu'est-ce que c'est que cela, la loi ? On peut donc être dehors. Je ne comprends pas. Quant à moi, suis-je dans la loi ? suis-je hors la loi ? Je n'en sais rien. Mourir de faim, est-ce être dans la loi ?" -- Tellmarch

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Post#1133 at 08-07-2010 10:42 PM by Odin [at Moorhead, MN, USA joined Sep 2006 #posts 14,442]
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Quote Originally Posted by Justin '77 View Post
Which is really funny, coming from him. Don't forget, he's a guy who revels in having spent his entire life doing nothing but sucking from the public tit.

I'd prefer an honest, as-yet-unemployed young person to a lifelong never-had-a-real-job parasite, anyday.
Funny how many of the right-wingers that blast "socialism" benefit from a government check. I get the feeling what they really mean is that they don't want money going to "those people" (blacks, single moms, the mentally ill or disabled, etc), they are perfectly fine with themselves getting government money because they are "hard-working REAL Americans" that "Deserve It".
To recommend thrift to the poor is both grotesque and insulting. It is like advising a man who is starving to eat less.

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Post#1134 at 08-07-2010 10:46 PM by wtrg8 [at NoVA joined Dec 2008 #posts 1,262]
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Quote Originally Posted by Justin '77 View Post
Which is really funny, coming from him. Don't forget, he's a guy who revels in having spent his entire life doing nothing but sucking from the public tit.

I'd prefer an honest, as-yet-unemployed young person to a lifelong never-had-a-real-job parasite, anyday.
Especially when a person cannot be discriminated against not having a job or a career.







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Quote Originally Posted by wtrg8 View Post
Especially when a person cannot be discriminated against not having a job or a career.
Huh? I'm not sure I follow you.
"Qu'est-ce que c'est que cela, la loi ? On peut donc être dehors. Je ne comprends pas. Quant à moi, suis-je dans la loi ? suis-je hors la loi ? Je n'en sais rien. Mourir de faim, est-ce être dans la loi ?" -- Tellmarch

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Oh, that reminds me, the owner of Free Republic, Jim Robinson, is in a wheelchair and gets a government disability check. Nice hypocrisy there, RimJob.
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Quote Originally Posted by Justin '77 View Post
Huh? I'm not sure I follow you.
Asberger's still shouldn't keep Odin from becoming a productive member of society. Its will power on his part.







Post#1138 at 08-08-2010 02:04 AM by Odin [at Moorhead, MN, USA joined Sep 2006 #posts 14,442]
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Quote Originally Posted by wtrg8 View Post
Asberger's still shouldn't keep Odin from becoming a productive member of society. Its will power on his part.
1. I'm currently working my way though college.

2. I AM employed though a temp company that finds job sites for the disabled. it has a workshop for the severely mentally disabled, but also finds job sites for the physically disabled, mildly mentally disabled, mentally ill, and people on the autism spectrum. I'm currently a janitor at a local church.

Glick was accusing me of being a lazy bum because I cannot tolerate working in a common McJob. "willpower" does not eliminate my sensory sensitivities and my impairments in non-verbal communication, that later making me scared to death of accidentally pissing off a supervisor with an ego.
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Quote Originally Posted by wtrg8 View Post
It's will power on his part.
To a large extent. Of course, that is in no small part a function of age and experience.

We were all young and ignorant once. More than just once, in fact; we all spent a fairly sizeable period of our lives that way.

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I see Odin just made the point I was trying to obliquely hit at. Was and is don't mean as much when we talk about a younger person as they do when we talk about someone who has already had sufficient opportunity to have made something of themselves. For the young, we're not unreasonable to put at least a tiny bit more faith in will be. Even moreso if their vector is good.
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"Qu'est-ce que c'est que cela, la loi ? On peut donc être dehors. Je ne comprends pas. Quant à moi, suis-je dans la loi ? suis-je hors la loi ? Je n'en sais rien. Mourir de faim, est-ce être dans la loi ?" -- Tellmarch

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Post#1140 at 08-08-2010 02:19 AM by Odin [at Moorhead, MN, USA joined Sep 2006 #posts 14,442]
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Quote Originally Posted by Justin '77 View Post
To a large extent. Of course, that is in no small part a function of age and experience.

We were all young and ignorant once. More than just once, in fact; we all spent a fairly sizeable period of our lives that way.

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-edit-

I see Odin just made the point I was trying to obliquely hit at. Was and is don't mean as much when we talk about a younger person as they do when we talk about someone who has already had sufficient opportunity to have made something of themselves. For the young, we're not unreasonable to put at least a tiny bit more faith in will be. Even moreso if their vector is good.
I would probably have finished college and have a decent job by now had I not lost my Pell Grant eligibility because of changes in my parents' income, and I sure as hell am not gonna take out student loans, so I am paying my way class by class.

I'm majoring in Foreign Languages, BTW, with an emphasis on Spanish. I may add a Hindi emphasis, too. I am hoping to be a translator, translating text from English to Spanish. It's a good job someone with Asperger's.
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Quote Originally Posted by wtrg8 View Post
Asberger's still shouldn't keep Odin from becoming a productive member of society. Its will power on his part.
Right. "Take up thy bed and walk, oh, thee of little faith...."







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Quote Originally Posted by Odin View Post
1. I'm currently working my way though college.

2. I AM employed though a temp company that finds job sites for the disabled. it has a workshop for the severely mentally disabled, but also finds job sites for the physically disabled, mildly mentally disabled, mentally ill, and people on the autism spectrum. I'm currently a janitor at a local church.

Glick was accusing me of being a lazy bum because I cannot tolerate working in a common McJob. "willpower" does not eliminate my sensory sensitivities and my impairments in non-verbal communication, that later making me scared to death of accidentally pissing off a supervisor with an ego.

I am sorry. Its no excuse on my part to project anything on this.







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Quote Originally Posted by Odin View Post
...and I sure as hell am not gonna take out student loans, so I am paying my way class by class.
Good man. It's only harder at first; afterwards, you'll be free. That's an even bigger deal once you are there than it sounds beforehand. I hope you are damned proud of yourself for doing it that way.

I'm majoring in Foreign Languages, BTW, with an emphasis on Spanish. I may add a Hindi emphasis, too. I am hoping to be a translator, translating text from English to Spanish. It's a good job someone with Asperger's.
If you have time, I'd recommend possibly doing a turkik language instead (or in addition to) an indian one. There's a big swath of the globe that speaks turkiks (all the way from turkey out to china, really); that's also an area where you're going to find relatively fewer english-speaking locals to compete with you. And what's more, it's an area that is definitely in an upwards-trend in terms of value to the world at-large.

If you speak, for example, Turkish, you'll be able to get by pretty well (or even just plain pick up) Kazakh, Uzbek, Armenian, Kyrgyz, Azeri, and so on. At least the swear words are pretty close to all exactly the same.

My advice is free, and unfortunately worth exactly what you pay for it. But there it is, nonetheless.
"Qu'est-ce que c'est que cela, la loi ? On peut donc être dehors. Je ne comprends pas. Quant à moi, suis-je dans la loi ? suis-je hors la loi ? Je n'en sais rien. Mourir de faim, est-ce être dans la loi ?" -- Tellmarch

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The End

This thread got completely out of hand. Infractions have been given.

Tone down the personal attacks. In fact, avoid them. Use the ignore feature or find other ways not to respond in such a manner.







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Quote Originally Posted by Odin View Post
I would probably have finished college and have a decent job by now had I not lost my Pell Grant eligibility because of changes in my parents' income, and I sure as hell am not gonna take out student loans, so I am paying my way class by class.

I'm majoring in Foreign Languages, BTW, with an emphasis on Spanish. I may add a Hindi emphasis, too. I am hoping to be a translator, translating text from English to Spanish. It's a good job someone with Asperger's.
Sounds like a good fit. In your posts you have shown a real knowledge of languages; structure, and tenses and lots of other things I don't understand at all.

Personally I think we all exist on a spectrum of dysfunction, specific wrongness is a varying template superimposed on this continuum by various social structures in time. I'm not sure if this makes any sense at all I just thought of it...
"Freedom is not something that the rulers "give" the population...people have immense power potential. It is ultimately their attitudes, behavior, cooperation, and obedience that supply the power to all rulers and hierarchical systems..." - Gene Sharp

"The Occupy protesters are acting like citizens, believing they have the power to change things...that humble people can acquire power when they convince themselves they can." - William Greider







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Quote Originally Posted by webmaster View Post
This thread got completely out of hand. Infractions have been given.

Tone down the personal attacks. In fact, avoid them. Use the ignore feature or find other ways not to respond in such a manner.
Sir we have been warned!

*grins while bowing deeply and flourishing his feathered hat*
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"The Occupy protesters are acting like citizens, believing they have the power to change things...that humble people can acquire power when they convince themselves they can." - William Greider







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Quote Originally Posted by Justin '77 View Post
Good man. It's only harder at first; afterwards, you'll be free. That's an even bigger deal once you are there than it sounds beforehand. I hope you are damned proud of yourself for doing it that way.


If you have time, I'd recommend possibly doing a turkik language instead (or in addition to) an indian one. There's a big swath of the globe that speaks turkiks (all the way from turkey out to china, really); that's also an area where you're going to find relatively fewer english-speaking locals to compete with you. And what's more, it's an area that is definitely in an upwards-trend in terms of value to the world at-large.

If you speak, for example, Turkish, you'll be able to get by pretty well (or even just plain pick up) Kazakh, Uzbek, Armenian, Kyrgyz, Azeri, and so on. At least the swear words are pretty close to all exactly the same.

My advice is free, and unfortunately worth exactly what you pay for it. But there it is, nonetheless.
Thanks for the suggestion, The Altaic Languages are an interesting bunch and seem to be distantly related to Indo-European and Uralic languages.
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Quote Originally Posted by webmaster View Post
This thread got completely out of hand. Infractions have been given.

Tone down the personal attacks. In fact, avoid them. Use the ignore feature or find other ways not to respond in such a manner.
Sorry, my bad.
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Post#1149 at 08-08-2010 04:53 PM by Odin [at Moorhead, MN, USA joined Sep 2006 #posts 14,442]
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Quote Originally Posted by Tone70 View Post
Sounds like a good fit. In your posts you have shown a real knowledge of languages; structure, and tenses and lots of other things I don't understand at all.

Personally I think we all exist on a spectrum of dysfunction, specific wrongness is a varying template superimposed on this continuum by various social structures in time. I'm not sure if this makes any sense at all I just thought of it...
That recently well known autistic savant Daniel Tammet, author of the memoir Born on a Blue Day, Learned Icelandic in a month and proved it by speaking good Icelandic on a TV news show in Iceland.
To recommend thrift to the poor is both grotesque and insulting. It is like advising a man who is starving to eat less.

-Oscar Wilde, The Soul of Man under Socialism







Post#1150 at 08-08-2010 04:58 PM by Tone70 [at Omaha joined Apr 2010 #posts 1,473]
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Talking

I saw that! Amazing fellow who provides a rich illustration of our wonderful variability.
"Freedom is not something that the rulers "give" the population...people have immense power potential. It is ultimately their attitudes, behavior, cooperation, and obedience that supply the power to all rulers and hierarchical systems..." - Gene Sharp

"The Occupy protesters are acting like citizens, believing they have the power to change things...that humble people can acquire power when they convince themselves they can." - William Greider
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