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Post#201 at 11-06-2009 03:29 AM by Ragnarök_62 [at Oklahoma joined Nov 2006 #posts 5,511]
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Quote Originally Posted by Roadbldr '59 View Post
Just one more reason to hope and pray that the next Awakening doesn't expand on the excesses of the past one. Maybe next time around, AIDS mixes it up with the flu and becomes AIRBORNE.

Wouldn't THAT be a hoot?
Roadbldr, that can't happen. AIDS is an lentivirus virus , while influenza is a
Orthomyxoviridae
I'm more concerned with the utter lack of infrastructure or whatever that's holding up production of the H1N1 influenza virus, myself. The response thus far has been an utter CF. I get a flu shot every year because I do not really care to experience 104 degree fevers, which I get if I get some flu or other bug.
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Post#202 at 11-06-2009 11:16 AM by KaiserD2 [at David Kaiser '47 joined Jul 2001 #posts 5,220]
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Quote Originally Posted by Roadbldr '59 View Post
My maternal grandfather had something like nine brothers and sisters... and lost half of 'em. Apparently the Spanish Flu wasn't very kind to Deal, New Jersey.
Another victim was the mother of Senator Robert Byrd, then one year old. As he tells the story--I've heard it--she got it, knew she was probably doomed, and told her husband who should raise her son, then one year old.

The epidemic is extensively described in Dennis Lehane's latest historical novel, The given Day,, which I highly recommend.







Post#203 at 11-06-2009 01:25 PM by Roadbldr '59 [at Vancouver, Washington joined Jul 2001 #posts 8,275]
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Quote Originally Posted by Ragnarök_62 View Post
I get a flu shot every year because I do not really care to experience 104 degree fevers, which I get if I get some flu or other bug.
Me too. On a visit to my parents house in Las Vegas at Christmas 1991, I was flat on my back with the flu for three weeks. I had to call my boss and add sick leave to my vacation time, since I was in no position fly back to Seattle.

That was the final time my Mom ever nursed me back to health with chicken soup and Musterole :-(
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Post#204 at 11-06-2009 01:54 PM by The Wonkette [at Arlington, VA 1956 joined Jul 2002 #posts 9,209]
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Quote Originally Posted by Mikebert View Post
Oh well. Putt's Law in action.
What is "Putt's Law"?
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Post#205 at 11-06-2009 03:15 PM by KaiserD2 [at David Kaiser '47 joined Jul 2001 #posts 5,220]
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Quote Originally Posted by Roadbldr '59 View Post
Me too. On a visit to my parents house in Las Vegas at Christmas 1991, I was flat on my back with the flu for three weeks. I had to call my boss and add sick leave to my vacation time, since I was in no position fly back to Seattle.

That was the final time my Mom ever nursed me back to health with chicken soup and Musterole :-(
Chicken soup, eh? Sounds like she was getting you ready for Wonkette. . ..







Post#206 at 11-06-2009 03:17 PM by Justin '77 [at Meh. joined Sep 2001 #posts 12,182]
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Quote Originally Posted by The Wonkette View Post
What is "Putt's Law"?
Shoot while the windmill blades are blocking the hole -- they'll move out of the way.
"Qu'est-ce que c'est que cela, la loi ? On peut donc ętre dehors. Je ne comprends pas. Quant ā moi, suis-je dans la loi ? suis-je hors la loi ? Je n'en sais rien. Mourir de faim, est-ce ętre dans la loi ?" -- Tellmarch

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Post#207 at 11-06-2009 03:18 PM by Bob Butler 54 [at Cove Hold, Carver, MA joined Jul 2001 #posts 6,431]
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Left Arrow Putt's Law

Quote Originally Posted by The Wonkette View Post
What is "Putt's Law"?
Technology is dominated by two types of people: those who understand what they do not manage, and those who manage what they do not understand.







Post#208 at 11-06-2009 05:33 PM by Justin '77 [at Meh. joined Sep 2001 #posts 12,182]
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Quote Originally Posted by The Rani View Post
I want to learn to fly one of those WWI Snoopy planes where you gotta shoot between the propellers.
Funny aside. The history of aircraft-mounted weaponry features some pretty amusing blunders. One fo the first forward-mounted machineguns just blew the propeller off the plane it was on. Then a later attempt featured armored propellers (which turned out to bounce a portion of the bullets back at the pilot). The final -- afaik -- design, featured a cam-type triggering mechanism that automatically interrupted fire in time with prop speed.

So the only thing to learn was how to build it right. For the pilots, it's always just been 'apply pressure to the trigger'.

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but we were talking about Putt.
"Qu'est-ce que c'est que cela, la loi ? On peut donc ętre dehors. Je ne comprends pas. Quant ā moi, suis-je dans la loi ? suis-je hors la loi ? Je n'en sais rien. Mourir de faim, est-ce ętre dans la loi ?" -- Tellmarch

"Человек не может снять с себя ответственности за свои поступки." - L. Tolstoy

"[it]
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Post#209 at 11-06-2009 05:38 PM by The Grey Badger [at Albuquerque, NM joined Sep 2001 #posts 8,876]
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Quote Originally Posted by Chas'88 View Post
But all bats really eat is fruit and insects. The only blood suckers are in Mexico and South America--and they only drink tiny portions in comparison to the fruit and insects they eat. And the blood they get mostly comes from livestock or recently dead animals.

So don't worry about bats. Be afraid of sparkly vampires, for they'll blind you with their smile--if they ever did smile of course since they live without having emotions and all...

~Chas'88
But that sort of vampire isn't found where the common folk live, but in the corridors of power.
How to spot a shill, by John Michael Greer: "What you watch for is (a) a brand new commenter who (b) has nothing to say about the topic under discussion but (c) trots out a smoothly written opinion piece that (d) hits all the standard talking points currently being used by a specific political or corporate interest, while (e) avoiding any other points anyone else has made on that subject."

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Post#210 at 11-06-2009 06:37 PM by Justin '77 [at Meh. joined Sep 2001 #posts 12,182]
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Quote Originally Posted by The Rani View Post
Putt schmutt. Someone told me the pilots had to make sure those things were properly calibrated before they took off ... that's not the case?
That'd make perfect sense -- though I suspect the more accurate word, since we're talking about positions in rotating machinery, would be 'timed'. Otherwise they might find themselves shooting only at their propellers.

But in any case, that's a job for a mechanic, not a pilot. Most likely the flyboys knew in principle how it should be done, but it's not something they would actually do.
"Qu'est-ce que c'est que cela, la loi ? On peut donc ętre dehors. Je ne comprends pas. Quant ā moi, suis-je dans la loi ? suis-je hors la loi ? Je n'en sais rien. Mourir de faim, est-ce ętre dans la loi ?" -- Tellmarch

"Человек не может снять с себя ответственности за свои поступки." - L. Tolstoy

"[it]
is no doubt obvious, the cult of the experts is both self-serving, for those who propound it, and fraudulent." - Noam Chomsky







Post#211 at 11-06-2009 06:39 PM by Brian Beecher [at Downers Grove, IL joined Sep 2001 #posts 2,937]
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Germ Warfare

Does anyone remeber when so many were obsessed with germ warfare? Does anyone believe that H1N1 is a vehicle of germ warfare advocates? I don't believe so, would prefer to believe that it is only coincidental. In fact there are many who believe that the scare is overblown, even though there have been a few deaths from it. Probably doesn't come close to rivaling the 1918 legendary outbreak. But we have advanced so much in science and medicine since that time that it seems highly unlikely. But yet TB has resurfaced, so who knows?







Post#212 at 11-06-2009 08:31 PM by Roadbldr '59 [at Vancouver, Washington joined Jul 2001 #posts 8,275]
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Quote Originally Posted by The Rani View Post
Here is an extensive analysis which traces the origin of the virus. It's from HSUS, but it does have references that you can check.
Ah, yes. Now if we would only LOVE animals instead of EATING them, we'd all be germ-free and live to be a hundred and fifty, and so on, and so on, and scooby-dooby-doo...

No thanks. I want my baby back ribs!!! OINK.
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Post#213 at 11-06-2009 08:38 PM by Roadbldr '59 [at Vancouver, Washington joined Jul 2001 #posts 8,275]
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Quote Originally Posted by KaiserD2 View Post
Chicken soup, eh? Sounds like she was getting you ready for Wonkette. . ..
Nah... I don't believe I was ever THAT sick at Jenny's house. The '91 incident was probably the fifth-worst illness of my entire life. (The two worst landed me in the hospital under an oxygen tent, the next two in the emergency room with temperatures of 105F).

Closest I came was at her Mom's farmhouse in Maine in '02... which is when I discovered the Narnia books :-)
"Better hurry. There's a storm coming. His storm!!!" :-O -Abigail Freemantle, "The Stand" by Stephen King







Post#214 at 11-06-2009 08:42 PM by Roadbldr '59 [at Vancouver, Washington joined Jul 2001 #posts 8,275]
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Quote Originally Posted by The Rani View Post
At any rate, I want to fly one of those suckers.
I flew in a helicopter for the first time on a field review three weeks ago. It was a blast... I wouldn't mind flying one of those at all!
"Better hurry. There's a storm coming. His storm!!!" :-O -Abigail Freemantle, "The Stand" by Stephen King







Post#215 at 11-07-2009 04:49 PM by Justin '77 [at Meh. joined Sep 2001 #posts 12,182]
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Quote Originally Posted by The Rani View Post
Damn. I knew dogs would hump anything that they could get up on, but I thought cats had more class than that.
"Qu'est-ce que c'est que cela, la loi ? On peut donc ętre dehors. Je ne comprends pas. Quant ā moi, suis-je dans la loi ? suis-je hors la loi ? Je n'en sais rien. Mourir de faim, est-ce ętre dans la loi ?" -- Tellmarch

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Post#216 at 11-07-2009 08:09 PM by Child of Socrates [at Cybrarian from America's Dairyland, 1961 cohort joined Sep 2001 #posts 14,092]
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Quote Originally Posted by Brian Rush View Post
I'm inclined to agree that's a danger. Best case would be if enough of a stink comes out of this epidemic that the problems are corrected before a truly bad one comes along. If that happens, we've been lucky in that fate has presented us with a dry-run rehearsal.
Uh, well, my husband, son, and I went to a free H1N1 flu clinic today and we all got the vaccine with a minimal wait period.







Post#217 at 11-09-2009 11:35 AM by Chas'88 [at In between Pennsylvania & Pennsyltucky joined Nov 2008 #posts 9,432]
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Quarantine

Currently I'm under quarantine for the possibility of having H1N1.

It sucks. That is all.

~Chas'88
"There have always been people who say: "The war will be over someday." I say there's no guarantee the war will ever be over. Naturally a brief intermission is conceivable. Maybe the war needs a breather, a war can even break its neck, so to speak. But the kings and emperors, not to mention the pope, will always come to its help in adversity. ON the whole, I'd say this war has very little to worry about, it'll live to a ripe old age."







Post#218 at 11-09-2009 11:38 AM by Child of Socrates [at Cybrarian from America's Dairyland, 1961 cohort joined Sep 2001 #posts 14,092]
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Quote Originally Posted by Chas'88 View Post
Currently I'm under quarantine for the possibility of having H1N1.

It sucks. That is all.

~Chas'88
Sorry to hear that. Take care of yourself.







Post#219 at 11-09-2009 12:41 PM by Chas'88 [at In between Pennsylvania & Pennsyltucky joined Nov 2008 #posts 9,432]
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Quote Originally Posted by The Rani View Post
Who quarantined you and how? If you don't mind sharing.
I went to the Campus Health Services because I was feeling horrible: Had a runny nose, sore throat, ear ache, congestion, trouble thinking straight, annoying cough, diahrea, nausea. Yesterday I was burning up. Today I was 96.5 compared to my normal 97.7.

So yeah, I'm not doing well. They gave me a bag of goodies-- of cough syrup, over the counter medicine, etc. and told me to stay isolated in my room, and wear a mask whenever my roommate comes in the room if he can't find somewhere else to be.

~Chas'88
"There have always been people who say: "The war will be over someday." I say there's no guarantee the war will ever be over. Naturally a brief intermission is conceivable. Maybe the war needs a breather, a war can even break its neck, so to speak. But the kings and emperors, not to mention the pope, will always come to its help in adversity. ON the whole, I'd say this war has very little to worry about, it'll live to a ripe old age."







Post#220 at 11-09-2009 01:00 PM by The Wonkette [at Arlington, VA 1956 joined Jul 2002 #posts 9,209]
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Quote Originally Posted by Chas'88 View Post
I went to the Campus Health Services because I was feeling horrible: Had a runny nose, sore throat, ear ache, congestion, trouble thinking straight, annoying cough, diahrea, nausea. Yesterday I was burning up. Today I was 96.5 compared to my normal 97.7.

So yeah, I'm not doing well. They gave me a bag of goodies-- of cough syrup, over the counter medicine, etc. and told me to stay isolated in my room, and wear a mask whenever my roommate comes in the room if he can't find somewhere else to be.

~Chas'88
What are you doing for food? Or are you not hungry? My daughter had no appetite for about 3 days.

And how are you feeling today?
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Dinning Services delivers, although I'm not as hungry as I usually am.

Also, for general knowledge: They tested me with nose swabs and throat swabs. The test is being sent to where it can be tested. They don't think Tamiflu would be a good solution at this point in the diagnosis.

~Chas'88
"There have always been people who say: "The war will be over someday." I say there's no guarantee the war will ever be over. Naturally a brief intermission is conceivable. Maybe the war needs a breather, a war can even break its neck, so to speak. But the kings and emperors, not to mention the pope, will always come to its help in adversity. ON the whole, I'd say this war has very little to worry about, it'll live to a ripe old age."







Post#222 at 11-09-2009 01:18 PM by The Wonkette [at Arlington, VA 1956 joined Jul 2002 #posts 9,209]
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Quote Originally Posted by Chas'88 View Post
Dinning Services delivers, although I'm not as hungry as I usually am.

Also, for general knowledge: They tested me with nose swabs and throat swabs. The test is being sent to where it can be tested. They don't think Tamiflu would be a good solution at this point in the diagnosis.

~Chas'88
Yeah, if you are posting, you probably aren't seriously sick. I expect they reserve the heavy-duty meds for those who are sicker than you.

Again, the experience from my daughter was that she felt rotten for three days, a lot improved the fourth day, completely better the fifth day but required to stay home, and went back to school and resumed her regular life on the sixth day. She never took any prescription drugs, just over-the-counter flu meds.

I hope you're feeling better and back to your regular life soon. In the mean time, if you can, enjoy the break.
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Lucky so far

I have been lucky I guess not to have any symptoms so far. Except for considerable sneezing which is probably more allergy(don't know what kind) related. The state of my life combined with the economy has forced me to stay at or close to home a lot more, not by my own choice at all.

This shouldn't be anywhere near as bad as the 1918 epidemic if for no other reason than we have advanced so far in science and medicine since that time. I believe I did have the flu over Christmas in 2006 but only took about four days to get through it.







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I also have swine flu right now. And it's nowhere as big of a deal as the media has made it out to be. For me it's been a very mild flu, This is my 4th day having it, and I'm already starting to feel better. I stayed home from school today, due to still feeling sick, and not to infect others, luckily I only go 3 days a week, and school is closed Wednesday due to veterans day, so I won't have to go back until friday.







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Quote Originally Posted by Chas'88 View Post
Currently I'm under quarantine for the possibility of having H1N1.

It sucks. That is all.

~Chas'88
Ugh, that sucks!
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