-Actually...Originally Posted by Cynic Hero '86
...the POW hero wasn't the Manchurian Candidate; the brain-washed Korean War veteran was supposed to assasinate the POTUS during his re-election acceptance speech, which would allow the VPOTUS, who was the Communist-influenced Manchurian Candidate, to step in.
If the American voter is stupid enough to blame our mess on Obama and the Dems, then they deserve another disastrous 8 years under the Repugnants. I'm sure a repeat will will make the Bush years look like a cakewalk - Hoovervilles on steroids.-Hmmm... we'll see who's more representative of the country: Those Congresscritters who are ruining the country, or the angry US taxpayer. If it turns out to be the latter, I wonder what Playwrite's cop-out will be.
"The Devil enters the prompter's box and the play is ready to start" - R. Service
“It’s not tax money. The banks have accounts with the Fed … so, to lend to a bank, we simply use the computer to mark up the size of the account that they have with the Fed. It’s much more akin to printing money.” - B.Bernanke
"Keep your filthy hands off my guns while I decide what you can & can't do with your uterus" - Sarah Silverman
If you meet a magic pony on the road, kill it. - Playwrite
...President Obama can't even handle Iran or North Korea without humiliating this country; it could be worse, and with three years, there's plenty of time. What would the chimp do if he had to handle a hostile Iraq as well?
-Well, I guess that's the cop-out Playwrite will use if the Donkeys don't do so well in 2010 or 2012...
-Playwrite apparently defines "Rape" as allowing people to keep their own money and deciding what to do with it, without the benefit of Big Brother; sort of a Dworkin definition of "rape"...
-PW forgets that the "Hoovervilles" continued throughout FDR's first two terms, because he enacted arbitray policies that extended what should have been a 3 or 4 year Depression into a 12 year Depression.
It takes a new policy 6 months to 2 years to show up in the broader economy. So, the window during which BO's responsibility for anything began about a week ago...
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Back to Playwrite:
I'd still love to know: When PW was supposedly visiting SE Asia, did he bother to check out the "Anti-War" movement's handiwork in the re-education camps, and in the killing fields? The answer seems to be NO...
Back to Haymarket':
I'd still love to know: Who paid Haymarket's Military Service Tax? Come on, I know you're retired, Haymarket. I'd think it'd be easy to go check out the old county draft records from 1969. You can look the guy up, and thank him for his inconvenience...
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-So cry many Boomers (self-professed Lefties, mostly) whenever they fail to explain their hypocritical self-justifications, their double-standards, and their double-think forays into evil. Perhaps their consciences bother them, perhaps not. Who knows.
Well, well, well. I just recieved this from Webmaster Craig:
Dear jamesdglick,
You have received a warning at Fourth Turning Forums.
Reason:
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Inappropriate Language
I would prefer it that you did not refer to the president as a "chimp." I've received several complaints.
It was awful when people did to to the previous president. But the racial connotations make it even worse. If our current rules were in place under the previous president, I would have made the same warning then.
Let me know if you have any questions.
Thanks,
-- Craig
1) It seems a bit inappropriate that the current President gets a Get Out Of Free Card on account of his race. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. Oh well;
2) I suppose, that by "previous" examples, Craig means postings likes these:
3) Strange that none of those people who complained about the current President being insulted ever got around to complaining about insults when it was the previous C-in-C. They know who they are, and they get to live with their hypocrisy.
...well, President Obama is the C-in-C, and calling him a "stupid chimp" is rude & disresepectful. I cheerfully accept your point!
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Back to Playwrite:
I'd still love to know: When PW was supposedly visiting SE Asia, did he bother to check out the "Anti-War" movement's handiwork in the re-education camps, and in the killing fields? The answer seems to be NO...
Back to Haymarket':
I'd still love to know: Who paid Haymarket's Military Service Tax? Come on, I know you're retired, Haymarket. I'd think it'd be easy to go check out the old county draft records from 1969. You can look the guy up, and thank him for his inconvenience...
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-So cry many Boomers (self-professed Lefties, mostly) whenever they fail to explain their hypocritical self-justifications, their double-standards, and their double-think forays into evil. Perhaps their consciences bother them, perhaps not. Who knows.
By any measure, from either a foreign or domestic policy perspective, this country is in worst shape, if not dire straights, after 8 years of Bush. I realize you Repugants are hoping folks forget that and that Americans impatience will lead to pinning this 4T onto Obama. If that is the case, then yea, my "cop-out" is that a majority of Americans voters are stupid, actually stupid beyond plausible belief (although after electing Bush twice, it shouldn't be too surprising). However, my money is on the bet that they are not....President Obama can't even handle Iran or North Korea without humiliating this country; it could be worse, and with three years, there's plenty of time. What would the chimp do if he had to handle a hostile Iraq as well?
-Well, I guess that's the cop-out Playwrite will use if the Donkeys don't do so well in 2010 or 2012...
-Playwrite apparently defines "Rape" as allowing people to keep their own money and deciding what to do with it, without the benefit of Big Brother; sort of a Dworkin definition of "rape"...
-PW forgets that the "Hoovervilles" continued throughout FDR's first two terms, because he enacted arbitray policies that extended what should have been a 3 or 4 year Depression into a 12 year Depression.
It takes a new policy 6 months to 2 years to show up in the broader economy. So, the window during which BO's responsibility for anything began about a week ago...
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Back to Playwrite:
I'd still love to know: When PW was supposedly visiting SE Asia, did he bother to check out the "Anti-War" movement's handiwork in the re-education camps, and in the killing fields? The answer seems to be NO...
Back to Haymarket':
I'd still love to know: Who paid Haymarket's Military Service Tax? Come on, I know you're retired, Haymarket. I'd think it'd be easy to go check out the old county draft records from 1969. You can look the guy up, and thank him for his inconvenience...
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-So cry many Boomers (self-professed Lefties, mostly) whenever they fail to explain their hypocritical self-justifications, their double-standards, and their double-think forays into evil. Perhaps their consciences bother them, perhaps not. Who knows.
And what's with the "chimp" reference? You birthers/screamers/teabaggers are so transparent - it would be funny, except that it isn't.
Maybe you would also find this really amusing -
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2...ot-lynched.php
And, I'm sure you'll get a 'good rise' out of this -GOP Congressman Jokes: Dems "Almost Got Lynched"
http://www.dailykostv.com/w/002021/
Last edited by playwrite; 08-06-2009 at 05:45 PM.
"The Devil enters the prompter's box and the play is ready to start" - R. Service
“It’s not tax money. The banks have accounts with the Fed … so, to lend to a bank, we simply use the computer to mark up the size of the account that they have with the Fed. It’s much more akin to printing money.” - B.Bernanke
"Keep your filthy hands off my guns while I decide what you can & can't do with your uterus" - Sarah Silverman
If you meet a magic pony on the road, kill it. - Playwrite
Oops!
Playwrite obviously didn't bother to note his hypocrisy revealed in post #106!
Hmm, I didn't see the post above from Craig.Oops!
Playwrite obviously didn't bother to note his hypocrisy revealed in post #106!
He's right, its more than just a little more serious issue with Obama. I could say, get someone to explain it to you, but I think you already know this and you posted it purposefully to get a rise out of people.
On the other hand, your right as well - I shouldn't have done it either in the case of Bush.
My bad.
"The Devil enters the prompter's box and the play is ready to start" - R. Service
“It’s not tax money. The banks have accounts with the Fed … so, to lend to a bank, we simply use the computer to mark up the size of the account that they have with the Fed. It’s much more akin to printing money.” - B.Bernanke
"Keep your filthy hands off my guns while I decide what you can & can't do with your uterus" - Sarah Silverman
If you meet a magic pony on the road, kill it. - Playwrite
-I'm not letting anyone play the Race Card as if it were a Get Outta Jail Free Card.
What's good for the Goose is good for the Gander. TS!
-I accept Playwrite's apology on behalf of everyone!
Now, how about all of you other Hypocrites? Come on out and apologize!You know who you are!
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Back to Playwrite:
I'd still love to know: When PW was supposedly visiting SE Asia, did he bother to check out the "Anti-War" movement's handiwork in the re-education camps, and in the killing fields? The answer seems to be NO...
Back to Haymarket':
I'd still love to know: Who paid Haymarket's Military Service Tax? Come on, I know you're retired, Haymarket. I'd think it'd be easy to go check out the old county draft records from 1969. You can look the guy up, and thank him for his inconvenience...
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-So cry many Boomers (self-professed Lefties, mostly) whenever they fail to explain their hypocritical self-justifications, their double-standards, and their double-think forays into evil. Perhaps their consciences bother them, perhaps not. Who knows.
OK...
I remembered Playwrite using "Chimp" when referring to President GWB (and I KNEW he woudn't resist putting his foot in his hypocritical mouth), but I only discovered Herbal Tee's use of the term as a blow-by while looking up Playwrite's quote(s), which I hadn't saved in my archives.
But now that Playwrite has apologized for calling the 43rd President a "chimp", how about about an apology for this:
...Herbal Tee?
And I figured, since I'm on a roll, I might as well just plug "chimp" into a general search, and see what other guilty parties might come up.
Well...
...Jadams! Come on Down!
...Skabungus! Come on Down!
...and Mr Horn?! Aw, no. Tsk, tsk, tsk.
No Wonkette quotes, but I will bewatching. BTW, Ms. Jenny, where was your outrage when GWB was being called a "chimp"? Rudeness isn't noramlly your style; thus "hypocritical double standards".
I can hardly wait to see what I find posted on Sunday!
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-So cry many Boomers (self-professed Lefties, mostly) whenever they fail to explain their hypocritical self-justifications, their double-standards, and their double-think forays into evil. Perhaps their consciences bother them, perhaps not. Who knows.
I think most will notice the lack of your own apology for what most would consider a much greater offense (no need to go into your sophomoric, tin-ear to history, good-for-the-goose... routine). Most will draw, or continue to draw, the obvious conclusion, and simply move on to continue to ignore the ugliness you seem to want, or can't help but, to constantly spawn. As others have observed, there's a lot of anger there - I'd suggest your getting some help but I recognize that you are part of the dying birthers/screamers/teabaggers/crankies culture, and its just going to have to play itself out as just another unsavory element of this 4T.OK...
I remembered Playwrite using "Chimp" when referring to President GWB (and I KNEW he woudn't resist putting his foot in his hypocritical mouth), but I only discovered Herbal Tee's use of the term as a blow-by while looking up Playwrite's quote(s), which I hadn't saved in my archives.
But now that Playwrite has apologized for calling the 43rd President a "chimp", how about about an apology for this:
...Herbal Tee?
And I figured, since I'm on a roll, I might as well just plug "chimp" into a general search, and see what other guilty parties might come up.
Well...
...Jadams! Come on Down!
...Skabungus! Come on Down!
...and Mr Horn?! Aw, no. Tsk, tsk, tsk.
No Wonkette quotes, but I will bewatching. BTW, Ms. Jenny, where was your outrage when GWB was being called a "chimp"? Rudeness isn't noramlly your style; thus "hypocritical double standards".
I can hardly wait to see what I find posted on Sunday!
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-So cry many Boomers (self-professed Lefties, mostly) whenever they fail to explain their hypocritical self-justifications, their double-standards, and their double-think forays into evil. Perhaps their consciences bother them, perhaps not. Who knows.
"The Devil enters the prompter's box and the play is ready to start" - R. Service
“It’s not tax money. The banks have accounts with the Fed … so, to lend to a bank, we simply use the computer to mark up the size of the account that they have with the Fed. It’s much more akin to printing money.” - B.Bernanke
"Keep your filthy hands off my guns while I decide what you can & can't do with your uterus" - Sarah Silverman
If you meet a magic pony on the road, kill it. - Playwrite
And some might wonder why I once mistook Slick for Marc Lamb.
They're so much alike!
This has a few commonalities with the other post, so please read carefully.
-Again, by a National Intelligence Estimate which Playwrite himself touted, the Iranians stopped their nuclear weapons research in the summer of 2003 (i.e. in the immediate aftermath of Operation Iraqi Freedom); one less thing for President Obama to worry about for now...
-Well, I posted this on the "Surge" thread in reply to Roadbuilder:
...and the only replies were from Playwrite, revealing his fascination for obscene insults (again).
I also posted this on this thread several times:
...silence...
...perhaps you'd like to take it up?
-Ahem:
Hmmm... maybe I should have put it in BOLD...
Besides, I'm not one of the whiny hypocrites; Playwrite et al are.
...as for this:
1) It was an ordinary every day insult, and based on it's previous use on the 4TF, an apparently accepted insult, for any C-in-C whom one disagrees with. This applies to President Obama in spades, whose followers claim that he is sooo intelligent and sooo articulate, despite the fact that no one knows his SAT score, and that he trips over his own tongue the minute his teleprompter breaks.
2) Double standards are wrong, as I've posted before:
...the hypocrisy ends here!
...Thinking of Playwrite's double standards & double-think, isn't he the self-proclaimed trust fund baby who constantly claims to respect the average joe? But this is what he has to say about convenience store clerks:
Quote from Playwrite "4T & Anything Military" Post #1458
Slim Jims - $1.19
Toasted Chitlins - $1.59
Slurpee's - $1.09
Slick, behind the counter, shaping our military for the 21st Century - Priceless!
End Quote
...and...
...now, for full disclosure, I've never worked in a convenience store (although I worked in a supermarket a long time ago), but it is rather insulting to convenience store clerks, don't you think?
BTW, SVE-KRD, what is it you do for a living, again?
Ahem.
And you (SVE) claim that I'm rude? Give it a rest.
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Back to Playwrite:
I'd still love to know: When PW was supposedly visiting SE Asia, did he bother to check out the "Anti-War" movement's handiwork in the re-education camps, and in the killing fields? The answer seems to be NO...
Back to Haymarket':
I'd still love to know: Who paid Haymarket's Military Service Tax? Come on, I know you're retired, Haymarket. I'd think it'd be easy to go check out the old county draft records from 1969. You can look the guy up, and thank him for his inconvenience...
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-So cry many Boomers (self-professed Lefties, mostly) whenever they fail to explain their hypocritical self-justifications, their double-standards, and their double-think forays into evil. Perhaps their consciences bother them, perhaps not. Who knows.
The bottleneck in "getting the bomb" is not in the weaponization of the enriched uranium; for a few $100K or less, one can find a Soviet nuke engineer to do that for you or let your own guys just do a Google search on the Internet. No, dummy, the bottleneck is synchronizing enough gas centrifuges to spin out a sufficient amount of enriched uranium. This is exactly what the Iranians have accelerated doing SINCE our invasion of Iraq.
You right wing nuts never have your facts nor your rationale correct. You really have come to believe that all you need to do is scream out stupidity, as currently exhibited at town hall meetings, and you will get your way. It's pathetic.
No one, including yourself, is buying that as an apology. It was just part of your sophomoric point that others have called Bush a "chimp" and that is somehow equivalent to doing the same with Obama. Arguing for this equivalency, at a minimum, indicates a complete tin-ear to U.S. racial history; however, given your character, it is much more likely to have been a purposeful antagonism by someone who has personal issues in this area. Bottom line, you are either a bigot or you're just not man enough to truly apologize. Either way, you're pretty much a pathetic excuse for a human being, however entertaining you are in that sort of B- horror movie kind of way.
"The Devil enters the prompter's box and the play is ready to start" - R. Service
“It’s not tax money. The banks have accounts with the Fed … so, to lend to a bank, we simply use the computer to mark up the size of the account that they have with the Fed. It’s much more akin to printing money.” - B.Bernanke
"Keep your filthy hands off my guns while I decide what you can & can't do with your uterus" - Sarah Silverman
If you meet a magic pony on the road, kill it. - Playwrite
-According to the NIE (which Playwrite himself touted), that is what stopped after the summer of 2003 for quite some time. What will President Obama do with that time?
Who cares if it stopped? Again, that is not the "bottleneck" in obtaining an actual weapon. In fact, in regard to nuclear hegemony in the region, they don't have to 'weaponize;' all they need to do is to indicate the likely accumulation of sufficient levels of enriched uranium. You should, and you do, know that. So put the BS aside.
What we should do about it? I honestly don't know. However, I do know that the Bush BS of preemption ain't it, although I'm willing to entertain, but unlikely to support, the Tel Aviv option.
I mostly think this is a multi-administrative, if not multi-generational, challenge that's going to have to play itself out - much like the post-WW2 Soviet issue.
But tell us, oh bright light, what is it that you think the C-in-C should do about it?
"The Devil enters the prompter's box and the play is ready to start" - R. Service
“It’s not tax money. The banks have accounts with the Fed … so, to lend to a bank, we simply use the computer to mark up the size of the account that they have with the Fed. It’s much more akin to printing money.” - B.Bernanke
"Keep your filthy hands off my guns while I decide what you can & can't do with your uterus" - Sarah Silverman
If you meet a magic pony on the road, kill it. - Playwrite
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Every year we've delayed the Iranians is one more year we have to stop them premanently. I guess Playwrite doesn't think t think that Japs would have liked to have delayed the Manhattan Project by 3 or 4 years?
Sheesh.
Here's a perfect example of the idiots that some in the Progressive moment still think it is viable to attempt discourse with.-?!
Every year we've delayed the Iranians is one more year we have to stop them premanently. I guess Playwrite doesn't think t think that Japs would have liked to have delayed the Manhattan Project by 3 or 4 years?
Sheesh.
I clearly state 'X' (i.e. the bottleneck is enrichment, not weaponization) and this crankie doesn't offer any argument otherwise but just goes on with deducing a conclusion based on the original faulty assumption. Just like the birthers or the deathers, they are incapable of listening or carrying on any rational argument.
And even more moronic -- even a grade-school kid would understand how ridiculous to compare nuclear technologies and, more importantly, nuclear technology dissemination of today with that of nearly 70 years ago. These people are simply stupid. If we can't get them to simply STFU, we need to marginalized them to even a greater extent than what has already been achieved - otherwise, there is little hope of emerging from this 4T.
Last edited by playwrite; 08-11-2009 at 08:38 PM.
"The Devil enters the prompter's box and the play is ready to start" - R. Service
“It’s not tax money. The banks have accounts with the Fed … so, to lend to a bank, we simply use the computer to mark up the size of the account that they have with the Fed. It’s much more akin to printing money.” - B.Bernanke
"Keep your filthy hands off my guns while I decide what you can & can't do with your uterus" - Sarah Silverman
If you meet a magic pony on the road, kill it. - Playwrite
-Strange; when the National Intelligence Estimate (of which Playwrite was formerly such a fan) came out, all the Bushitler types (of which PW was/is one) were celebrating, because it meant that if the Iranians weren't working on nukes, then THE EVIL NEOCONS wouldn't have an "excuse" to attack the poor Iranians.
However, when I point out that according to the same NEI, the Iranians only just happened to stop their nuke program in 2003 (i.e. right after the Fall of Saddam), then, suddenly, the fact that they stopped the program becomes irrelevent!
Double-think!
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Back to Playwrite:
I'd still love to know: When PW was supposedly visiting SE Asia, did he bother to check out the "Anti-War" movement's handiwork in the re-education camps, and in the killing fields? The answer seems to be NO...
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-So cry many Boomers (self-professed Lefties, mostly) whenever they fail to explain their hypocritical self-justifications, their double-standards, and their double-think forays into evil. Perhaps their consciences bother them, perhaps not. Who knows.
Hey, wingnut, point to a post where I stated the Iranians aren't trying to get the bomb. That doesn't necessarily equate with my endorsing Bush to take a preemptive strike against them.-Strange; when the National Intelligence Estimate (of which Playwrite was formerly such a fan) came out, all the Bushitler types (of which PW was/is one) were celebrating, because it meant that if the Iranians weren't working on nukes, then THE EVIL NEOCONS wouldn't have an "excuse" to attack the poor Iranians.
However, when I point out that according to the same NEI, the Iranians only just happened to stop their nuke program in 2003 (i.e. right after the Fall of Saddam), then, suddenly, the fact that they stopped the program becomes irrelevent!
Double-think!
You are not trying to have some rational discourse on Iran with me when you just assume you know what my position is (that's called "putting words in other people's mouths). You're just mouthing off your wingnut memes because you're basically too sophomoric to do anything but.
Again, if there is anything in that head of yours that still works, the Iranians didn't "stop their nuke program"; they stop their own research on weaponization - that is not the same thing. Anyone who has even a modest understanding of this knows that what they did instead was focus on the key milestone of enrichment. How many times do facts have to be repeated to you screamers before it gets through?
How many crankies does it take to change a light bulb on the ceiling? Three - one to climb up the ladder and hold the bulb while the other two pick the ladder up and turn it - that would be counterclockwise in case you're wondering.
"The Devil enters the prompter's box and the play is ready to start" - R. Service
“It’s not tax money. The banks have accounts with the Fed … so, to lend to a bank, we simply use the computer to mark up the size of the account that they have with the Fed. It’s much more akin to printing money.” - B.Bernanke
"Keep your filthy hands off my guns while I decide what you can & can't do with your uterus" - Sarah Silverman
If you meet a magic pony on the road, kill it. - Playwrite
-For all intents and purposes, it did; my point about the Bushitler types was to remind everyone that Playwrite never disagreed with that assessment at the time; it's only now, when I remind him of when the Iranians stopped, that he suddenly decides that it's irrelevant.
But anyway, in the interests of if a National Intelligence Estimate were to state that the North Koreans had stopped their weaponization research, then Playwrite should be the very first one to tell us that it really isn't an achievement for the Obama administartion, because that really doesn't matter...
Sure...
Another Hypocritical Double Standard.
BUSTED!
Back to Playwrite's hypocritical whining about the word "Chimp"; here is a great article that deals with the readiness of Lefties (including President Obama) to play the Race Card:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204619004574322054186035002.html
"Where race is concerned, I sometimes think of the president as the Peter Sellers character in “Dr. Strangelove.” Sellers plays a closet Nazi whose left arm—quite involuntarily—keeps springing up into the Heil Hitler salute...
...When I saw Mr. Obama—with every escape route available to him—wade right into the Gates affair at the end of his health-care news conference, I knew that his demon arm had momentarily won out over his good arm..."
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Back to Playwrite:
I'd still love to know: When PW was supposedly visiting SE Asia, did he bother to check out the "Anti-War" movement's handiwork in the re-education camps, and in the killing fields? The answer seems to be NO...
Back to Haymarket':
I'd still love to know: Who paid Haymarket's Military Service Tax? Come on, I know you're retired, Haymarket. I'd think it'd be easy to go check out the old county draft records from 1969. You can look the guy up, and thank him for his inconvenience...
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-So cry many Boomers (self-professed Lefties, mostly) whenever they fail to explain their hypocritical self-justifications, their double-standards, and their double-think forays into evil. Perhaps their consciences bother them, perhaps not. Who knows.
I realize that this is a little too complicated for you, but I'll give it a try.-For all intents and purposes, it did; my point about the Bushitler types was to remind everyone that Playwrite never disagreed with that assessment at the time; it's only now, when I remind him of when the Iranians stopped, that he suddenly decides that it's irrelevant.
What is relevant in the NIE in stating that the Iranians had stopped their weaponization is that must mean that they had at one point STARTED it.
They have been extremely careful to NEVER admit to this nor allow any evidence as such to come to light.
Given the complete failure of the NIE regarding Iraq's supposed WMDs, you can bet that the intelligence community made damn sure they could back up that there was indeed a weaponization effort that ACTUALLY EXISTED that could then be stopped. For those with brains, that was the thing that was most startlingly from the Report.
That finding could have been used as a club with not only the Europeans but with the Russians and the Chinese and maybe something real could have come about through a joint and strong Security Council resolution. However, by then, the gross unpopularity and mistrust of the Bush Administration made that an impossibility. And that, in turn, has allowed the Iranians to freely pursue and greatly accelerate their efforts toward the MOST CRITICAL milestone toward making the bomb, i.e. Uranium gas enrichment in synchronized centrifuges.
You and I are in agreement that the Iranians are dead-set on obtaining the bomb. (I could argue that they could stop just short of weaponizing the material (the easy part) to have nearly the same degree of hegemony that an actual weapon would provide them.)
Barring either some major internal political shift within Iran or some military strike by the Israelis (which will have major repercussions and only temporarily delay the inevitable), the Iranians are going to get the bomb (or, be able to weaponize one in 30 days or less).
What you moronically see as a benefit of Bush's Iraqi invasion (i.e. slowing the Iranians' weaponization down) will likely go down in history as the biggest strategic blunder of his entire Administration - and that is saying a lot.
I think this, more than anything else, is why Bush gave Cheney the finger in the closing days of his Administration and let Rice pursue a more diplomatic role. Imagine, Bush sitting there with all the Intel necessary to clearly show the Iranians' penultimate purpose, but knowing he had lost the chance to ever persuade either the domestic or international audience to act. He is going to live with that for a long time as should all the brainless wing nuts, like yourself, that supported his fiasco. Unfortunately, we all have inherited the consequences of your group stupidity and lunacy.
I'd suggest this easy read for you to educate yourself just a little -
http://www.amazon.com/Inheritance-Wo.../dp/0307407926
but suggesting that to a crankie is like asking the sun not to come up.
Last edited by playwrite; 08-12-2009 at 01:53 PM.
"The Devil enters the prompter's box and the play is ready to start" - R. Service
“It’s not tax money. The banks have accounts with the Fed … so, to lend to a bank, we simply use the computer to mark up the size of the account that they have with the Fed. It’s much more akin to printing money.” - B.Bernanke
"Keep your filthy hands off my guns while I decide what you can & can't do with your uterus" - Sarah Silverman
If you meet a magic pony on the road, kill it. - Playwrite
-I agree with Playwrite that the IRI is dead-set on obtaining the bomb (DUH), but I think PW's the only one who was "startled" by the NIE Report.
-No, what President Bush had to deal with stateside would have been the inevitable caterwauling of the Nutty Left as they fell over themselves to pander to their friends at ANSWER.
-Ridiculous; the Europeans won't do anything unless they think their skin is immediately on the line (they don't think their skin is on the line, just America & the Israelis), and even if they did, it'll be minimal, since they're too afraid anyway; the Russians aren't going to allow anything that hurts their buddy Iran, in the same way in which they spent 11 years covering their buddy Saddam- or is that forgotten?
BTW, has anyone noticed, that despite Europe's falling all over thenselves for President Obama, that, when it really counts, that He can't get the Europeans (or anyone else) to do anything which is actually useful?
1) There is no such thing as "inevitable" when you deal with human beings;
2) There's that "major internal shift", which President Obama's pandering has done nothing to encourage. Here's hoping for Change We Can Believe In
3) BO now has several more years to show us how brilliant (or lucky) he is.
And all of PW's arguments ignore the fact that we took a hostile Iraq off the board of America's worries. Again, BO can't handle what's on his plate as it is; can you imagine the mess he'd be in if we still had to face Saddam?
BTW:
-Wow; if a country stops something, then that strongly implies that they started it. Amazing!
BTW, the book which PW tries to hump also comes with "Obama the Renegade". Ha! Ha! The guy who spent 20 years up to his neck in the most corrupt machine in the country, but never said "Boo!" to anyone! Ha! Ha!
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Back to Playwrite:
I'd still love to know: When PW was supposedly visiting SE Asia, did he bother to check out the "Anti-War" movement's handiwork in the re-education camps, and in the killing fields? The answer seems to be NO...
Back to Haymarket':
I'd still love to know: Who paid Haymarket's Military Service Tax? Come on, I know you're retired, Haymarket. I'd think it'd be easy to go check out the old county draft records from 1969. You can look the guy up, and thank him for his inconvenience...
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-So cry many Boomers (self-professed Lefties, mostly) whenever they fail to explain their hypocritical self-justifications, their double-standards, and their double-think forays into evil. Perhaps their consciences bother them, perhaps not. Who knows.
Last edited by jamesdglick; 08-12-2009 at 02:56 PM.
The Nutty Left and everybody else except you, big Dick Cheney, and a few neoCons still looking for jobs. Even if Ahmadinejad had pooped out a nuke on TV, nobody was going to give support to Bush for doing anything much further than blowing his own nose. That is the mess that he and his idiot war have cost us - the Iranians getting the bomb will be his legacy.
Ah, maybe there is some final dying ember in that brain of yours afterall. Let's make the effort and see if we can fan that some. Go look for a credible government analysis, on par with the NIE, that ever before stated conclusively that the Iranians had a weaponization program.
Thinks about what you don't find.
The NIE making that for the first time an OFFICAL conclusion, particularly after the Iraqi WMD NIE fiasco, was pretty amazing - still is. That is, if one's brain is capable of understanding the implications.
"The Devil enters the prompter's box and the play is ready to start" - R. Service
“It’s not tax money. The banks have accounts with the Fed … so, to lend to a bank, we simply use the computer to mark up the size of the account that they have with the Fed. It’s much more akin to printing money.” - B.Bernanke
"Keep your filthy hands off my guns while I decide what you can & can't do with your uterus" - Sarah Silverman
If you meet a magic pony on the road, kill it. - Playwrite
-Only to PW.
..and the French & the Russians wouldn't have given it (and didn't give it) to then-President Clinton, or Gore, and they wouldn't have given it to Presient Obama either after 2003, or after.
And the fact that BO doesn't have to deal with a hostile Iraq makes his job a lot easier, except of course, in Playwrite's fantasies.
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Back to Playwrite:
I'd still love to know: When PW was supposedly visiting SE Asia, did he bother to check out the "Anti-War" movement's handiwork in the re-education camps, and in the killing fields? The answer seems to be NO...
Back to Haymarket':
I'd still love to know: Who paid Haymarket's Military Service Tax? Come on, I know you're retired, Haymarket. I'd think it'd be easy to go check out the old county draft records from 1969. You can look the guy up, and thank him for his inconvenience...
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-So cry many Boomers (self-professed Lefties, mostly) whenever they fail to explain their hypocritical self-justifications, their double-standards, and their double-think forays into evil. Perhaps their consciences bother them, perhaps not. Who knows.
Okay, screamer, where is your fact of a previous credible and offical US government statement that Iran had a weaponization program.
Show me that fact, and then we can address your infantile speculations.
"The Devil enters the prompter's box and the play is ready to start" - R. Service
“It’s not tax money. The banks have accounts with the Fed … so, to lend to a bank, we simply use the computer to mark up the size of the account that they have with the Fed. It’s much more akin to printing money.” - B.Bernanke
"Keep your filthy hands off my guns while I decide what you can & can't do with your uterus" - Sarah Silverman
If you meet a magic pony on the road, kill it. - Playwrite
