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Post#326 at 01-19-2012 11:47 PM by millennialX [at Gotham City, USA joined Oct 2010 #posts 6,597]
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Honestly there's no doubt in my mind that we are in a micro awakening. I still stand by my post about people and comfort, however everyone I know is ready for something different and exploring how to make that happened. It's like they are suddenly interested in subjects (from politics to spirituality) that they would have found boring before 2008.
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Quote Originally Posted by Chas'88 View Post
The difference between a micro-Crisis; a micro-High; and a micro-Awakening:

micro-Crisis - death of the old culture, vast changes occurring on the heels of one another, a seeming sweeping momentous movement of change that everyone is caught up in--a shift where both Turning cultures exist--one dying and the other being born

micro-High - stasis, no change, all attempts to make any change to the newly born Turning culture are met unfavorably, people all accept the new Turning culture--very little question it; those that do are seen as part of the "dead" order & are considered to be "out-of-touch" jokes; we're concerned about existing in a "place"

micro-Awakening - a spark ignites the urge to make changes once again, but they aren't ever completely implemented, the unified stasis of the previous "calm period" splits into two or more factions warring for control, new ideas are created that challenge the Turning culture, but aren't seen as very great threats... there is a purity to action & intent, people actually mean what they say; Compromise is no solution--purists will have their way or no way at all

micro-Unraveling - further fragmentation of the Turning culture occurs, no longer do people feel so attached to it, but they don't see how they could possibly do anything to make things any different (after all, you could lop off the head of the snake, & the system will still survive), a large questioning of meaning--"impurity" in the larger Turning culture & in language begins to crop up as no one really believes the memes of the Turning culture anymore; Time seems to speed up quite rapidly

micro-Crisis - no one believes the meme of the Turning anymore & thus to prevent the "system" from collapsing in on itself, grand sweeping changes are implemented to "re-invent" our culture into a new Turning with a new meme in order to perpetuate society, because the only other choice is for everything to fall apart...

That's what lead me to these dates:

1978 - 1984 - Awakening-Crisis - The "Crisis of Confidence" kicks this off, the Iran hostage situation doesn't make things any better; Miracle on Ice resparks a sense of Patriotism; Reagan gets elected & begins enacting sweeping changes, Reagan's attempted assassination, Lennon's assassination, early Reagan jitters over a stagnating economy, Air Traffic Controllers Strike (it's equivalent to the 1902 Coal Miner's Strike), fear over nuclear annihilation rises to a new high--that the Republicans take advantage over, changes in parenting attitudes occur over these years, where kids go from being rather petulant & irritating at times (Kramer vs. Kramer) to rather cute & worthy of protection (think of Drew Barrymore in E.T.)--for the most part they're still rather on their own as their now "Boomer" parents are still "finding themselves" or are just unaware of the world around them (Close Encounters of the Third Kind; Poltergeist; E.T.)

1984 - 1989 - Unraveling-High - The economy turns around, we become concerned with "place" once again as it's now "Morning in America" and now America as depicted on TV becomes this rosy place to live where families safely live in exurban homes & people industriously working--it takes the early tremblings of the 1980 "Miracle on Ice" Patriotism to a new level culturally, problems with the Soviets now can be solved or negotiated--they're still the "Evil Empire", but they now have Gorbachov in there and we can come to an agreement of some kind; the economy is turning around, positive energy is abound, what is considered 1980s fashion establishes itself in 1985, and the "dark days" of worrying about everything are behind us. 1984 - Steve Jobs releases the first personal computer with a graphic interface for the user: the MacIntosh; which completely changes the face of computers and sets the tone for the rest of the Unraveling (similar to how in 1908 Henry Ford released his Model-T Ford). 1987 - Gordon Gekko establishes what's on everyone's mind: "Greed is Good". George H.W. Bush gets elected on the tail end of this micro-High"feel good" feeling of wanting to "continue" things the way they should be run. Nuclear De-armament is now the focus & no one is really worried about the SU & America going at it as much (after all George Bush, "led the way" in that arena)

1989 - 1995 - Unraveling-Awakening - The fall of the Berlin Wall changes everything; suddenly America is the lone superpower & it's time to let loose & "party"--as well as help those poor former Communist states establish some form of economic & political reform; at home the Religious Right revive themselves in the election of 1992 (after falling dormant in the late 1980s due to some scandals) which most definitely was a micro-Awakening election (as was the 1994 election which brought Newt Gingrich to power) & the action of shutting down the Government was also a very micro-Awakening thing to do--no compromising allowed. Oklahoma City explodes!

1995 - 2000 - Unraveling-Unraveling - people reacted negatively to the shutdown of the government--now they want their government to Compromise & just "work together", the true dark days of the Unraveling started popping up; the Internet became widely available through AOL mailed CDs, Computers even cheaper than they were in the 1980s & began to develop at ever increasing speeds; the real dregs of the Unraveling occur here: Monica Lewinsky, US Embassy Bombings Y2K scares began to pop up...

2000 - 2005 - Unraveling-Crisis - a bad election left no doubt in anyone's mind that things had to change, but 9/11 told them how things had to change & suddenly we were all swept up in an environment of ever changing & shifting values--the old Unraveling dying a long, prolonged & slow death--enough that the 2004 election reeked of the Unraveling & Culture Wars

2005 - 2010 - Crisis-High - after Katrina, Bush was discredited & anything he did to try and ; it was like the "engine" of change ran out of gas... there was a new norm that people were aware of in this post-9/11 world that no one--even those skeptical of it--questioned. America had become a quasi-police state--and no one dared question the role of the police-state in their lives, for it would compromise our "safety". 2008 began early tremblings of fear--an early attempt to spark the Crisis-Awakening--that didn't go anywhere as Bush & then Obama used Unraveling "solutions" to try and fix the problem (Obama pulling plays out of the Clinton playbook & continuing on with Democratic plans that had been in place since the Unraveling to get a national healthcare system in place) however his insistence on using old Unraveling tactics & ideas began upsetting people & a division amongst the populace was sparked after the passage of the Bill that completely destroyed the "stasis" we'd been existing in.

2010 - 20?? - Upset at using out of date techniques to solve the issues of today people long for something new--and they organize around pillars that seem to be opposing--without any room for compromise. Compromise is a dirty word--from Tea Partiers to Occupiers--their methods & tactics have to be done their way in order for them to be satisfied (Occupiers insisting on wide-scale vision of "pure" Democracy--while Tea Partiers insist on a wide-scale vision of "pure" Capitalism).

~Chas'88

P.S. Will edit with links to demonstrate what I'm talking about.
Im starting to agree that ( agian) we are in the Crisis Awakening, However:

- I feel that OWS movement doesn't " actually mean what it says" and the Tea Party..... Is more senior- oriented than OWS which is more teens- to 30 ( maybe 40) somethings- oriented. Could it be that we are in a transtion between a Crisis High and a Crisis-Awakening? A "phony Mini- Awakening?"

- I disagree that the Crisis began in 2005. ( Well from my experince, anyway, so I may seem a little biased.) 2007 felt more unraveling- like and it was my favourite year in my lifetime, so far. 2008 by contrast, felt more crisis like.

- If you begin the Crisis in 2005, that pushes the first Homelander birth year in 2002. Since I was born in 1995, I would a cusper instead of a Mille, and I think that I am not a cusper. I don't think that I fit the Artist archtype, personally.

- I think that the Tea Pary and OWS movements are too small of a movement and I think that we will see bigger movements in the future.

Well that's just my opinion.







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Quote Originally Posted by 95 and alive View Post
- I think that the Tea Pary and OWS movements are too small of a movement and I think that we will see bigger movements in the future.

Well that's just my opinion.
But does every event have to be a big spectacle?

Ha, am I the only one who feels this crisis doesn't have to end with big like with a nuke going off or something?

I just think it's thrilling that the apathy witch is dead! Ding, dong!
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Post#329 at 01-20-2012 10:30 PM by 95 and alive [at joined Dec 2011 #posts 544]
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Transtion Time...

Could their possibly be a transition between Mini turnings? I think that we are in a transition point between a Crisis High and a Crisis Awakening.
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Post#330 at 01-22-2012 12:11 AM by Chas'88 [at In between Pennsylvania & Pennsyltucky joined Nov 2008 #posts 9,432]
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Quote Originally Posted by 95 and alive View Post
Im starting to agree that ( agian) we are in the Crisis Awakening, However:

- I feel that OWS movement doesn't " actually mean what it says" and the Tea Party..... Is more senior- oriented than OWS which is more teens- to 30 ( maybe 40) somethings- oriented. Could it be that we are in a transtion between a Crisis High and a Crisis-Awakening? A "phony Mini- Awakening?"
Look at previous micro-Awakenings:

4Ting: Gold Standard/Isolationists vs New Deal/Interventionists (eventually winning in the figures of FDR/Truman)
1Ting: McCarthyism/John Birch Society vs Liberalism (eventually winning in the figure of Kennedy)
2Ting: New Left vs Neo-Conservatism/Goldwater (eventually winning in the figure of Reagan)
3Ting: Liberal vs Conservative (eventually winning--just barely--in the figure of W.)

- If you begin the Crisis in 2005, that pushes the first Homelander birth year in 2002. Since I was born in 1995, I would a cusper instead of a Mille, and I think that I am not a cusper. I don't think that I fit the Artist archtype, personally.
It doesn't do a thing to the cusper years, but solidify them as being born around 2000 - 2005. Cuspers are born during Micro-Crises.


- I think that the Tea Pary and OWS movements are too small of a movement and I think that we will see bigger movements in the future.
You think Rome was built in a day?

~Chas'88
"There have always been people who say: "The war will be over someday." I say there's no guarantee the war will ever be over. Naturally a brief intermission is conceivable. Maybe the war needs a breather, a war can even break its neck, so to speak. But the kings and emperors, not to mention the pope, will always come to its help in adversity. ON the whole, I'd say this war has very little to worry about, it'll live to a ripe old age."







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Quote Originally Posted by Chas'88 View Post
Look at previous micro-Awakenings:

4Ting: Gold Standard/Isolationists vs New Deal/Interventionists (eventually winning in the figures of FDR/Truman)
1Ting: McCarthyism/John Birch Society vs Liberalism (eventually winning in the figure of Kennedy)
2Ting: New Left vs Neo-Conservatism/Goldwater (eventually winning in the figure of Reagan)
3Ting: Liberal vs Conservative (eventually winning--just barely--in the figure of W.)



It doesn't do a thing to the cusper years, but solidify them as being born around 2000 - 2005. Cuspers are born during Micro-Crises.




You think Rome was built in a day?

~Chas'88
No. Its not that I think protest groups reslove their problems in a week/month or so, I just think the OWS movement is not that big







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Quote Originally Posted by 95 and alive View Post
No. Its not that I think protest groups reslove their problems in a week/month or so, I just think the OWS movement is not that big
'Tis Winter, I think it'll take off big time come Spring IMO--I've heard plans they hope to have a convention in Philly come July (around a particular holiday). Also, both groups have changed the focus of the national discussion--which is more than any other group thus far.

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"There have always been people who say: "The war will be over someday." I say there's no guarantee the war will ever be over. Naturally a brief intermission is conceivable. Maybe the war needs a breather, a war can even break its neck, so to speak. But the kings and emperors, not to mention the pope, will always come to its help in adversity. ON the whole, I'd say this war has very little to worry about, it'll live to a ripe old age."







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Quote Originally Posted by Chas'88 View Post
'Tis Winter, I think it'll take off big time come Spring IMO--I've heard plans they hope to have a convention in Philly come July (around a particular holiday). Also, both groups have changed the focus of the national discussion--which is more than any other group thus far.

~Chas'88
Okay, so I guess I was wrong about the protest movements being small. To be honest, Id have to say as of this month and year we are in a Crisis- Awakening. And what do you mean by " Also both groups have changed the focus of the national discussion."? Im sorry, if this seems like a dumb question, I just wasn't sure what you meant.
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The Tea Party changed the national discussion in 2009 & 2010 into one of "Fiscal Conservatism" & "Deficit Reduction". OWS has changed the national discussion in 2011 & 2012 into one of "Wealth Inequality" & bringing attention to the "dying Middle Class".

~Chas'88
"There have always been people who say: "The war will be over someday." I say there's no guarantee the war will ever be over. Naturally a brief intermission is conceivable. Maybe the war needs a breather, a war can even break its neck, so to speak. But the kings and emperors, not to mention the pope, will always come to its help in adversity. ON the whole, I'd say this war has very little to worry about, it'll live to a ripe old age."







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Quote Originally Posted by Chas'88 View Post
The Tea Party changed the national discussion in 2009 & 2010 into one of "Fiscal Conservatism" & "Deficit Reduction". OWS has changed the national discussion in 2011 & 2012 into one of "Wealth Inequality" & bringing attention to the "dying Middle Class".

~Chas'88
Right and the words Tea, Occupy and 99% will never be the same again (at least within our life time)

Sadly, I think about our Tea party (and all the baggage related) before the Boston Tea Party, now. Geez...
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Quote Originally Posted by 95 and alive View Post
......according to Chass 88's theory of poltical archtypes.
The shepherd's flock grows with more young disciples each day.







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Quote Originally Posted by 95 and alive View Post
Could their possibly be a transition between Mini turnings? I think that we are in a transition point between a Crisis High and a Crisis Awakening.
While there is some disagreement about when the 4T began, I think there is general consensus that we are in the awakening cycle. I think it will hit its peak this year, or possibly summer 2013 (50th anniv of "I have a dream" speech) if Obama is not reelected.







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Quote Originally Posted by TeddyR View Post
The shepherd's flock grows with more young disciples each day.
LOL. Chass is not my shepherd. That was a good one!







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Quote Originally Posted by TeddyR View Post
While there is some disagreement about when the 4T began, I think there is general consensus that we are in the awakening cycle. I think it will hit its peak this year, or possibly summer 2013 (50th anniv of "I have a dream" speech) if Obama is not reelected.
I figured as of this month and year we are in an Awakening because of the hacking of various US goverment sities by Anonymous.







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Quote Originally Posted by 95 and alive View Post
LOL. Chass is not my shepherd. That was a good one!
Nor would I want you to just blindly follow. The best times my theory has developed has been when people challenge my definitions or propose alternatives to what I have to offer. It forces me to build my case & refine it each time.

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Quote Originally Posted by 95 and alive View Post
I figured as of this month and year we are in an Awakening because of the hacking of various US goverment sities by Anonymous.
They've been doing that since Wiki-Leaks, and before IIRC.

Other examples of micro-Awakening activities: Wiki-Leaks, Terry Jones' Qur'an Burning, the Gabby Giffords Shooting, & Obama Assassination attempt (assassinations & attempts are a common feature of Awakenings, micro-Awakenings, Crises, & micro-Crises--with them occurring most frequently in the micro-Awakenings & micro-Crises of larger Awakenings & Crises)

~Chas'88
"There have always been people who say: "The war will be over someday." I say there's no guarantee the war will ever be over. Naturally a brief intermission is conceivable. Maybe the war needs a breather, a war can even break its neck, so to speak. But the kings and emperors, not to mention the pope, will always come to its help in adversity. ON the whole, I'd say this war has very little to worry about, it'll live to a ripe old age."







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Quote Originally Posted by Chas'88 View Post
Nor would I want you to just blindly follow. The best times my theory has developed has been when people challenge my definitions or propose alternatives to what I have to offer. It forces me to build my case & refine it each time.

~Chas'88
Take it easy guys, I was joking and paying homage to Chas.







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Quote Originally Posted by Chas'88 View Post
They've been doing that since Wiki-Leaks, and before IIRC.

Other examples of micro-Awakening activities: Wiki-Leaks, Terry Jones' Qur'an Burning, the Gabby Giffords Shooting, & Obama Assassination attempt (assassinations & attempts are a common feature of Awakenings, micro-Awakenings, Crises, & micro-Crises--with them occurring most frequently in the micro-Awakenings & micro-Crises of larger Awakenings & Crises)

~Chas'88
I know Anonymous probably does that hacking stuff. It seems to be a werid group. Im just saying when Anomymous hacked Goverment websites, it was the first "true" PWNAGE of the people fighting back.







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Quote Originally Posted by 95 and alive View Post
I know Anonymous probably does that hacking stuff. It seems to be a werid group. Im just saying when Anomymous hacked Goverment websites, it was the first "true" PWNAGE of the people fighting back.
We Are Anonymous (late 2009)

Operation Payback (2010)
Operation Black Out (2011)
Operation Facebook (2011)
Message to the American People (2011)
Message to Obama (2011)

~Chas'88
"There have always been people who say: "The war will be over someday." I say there's no guarantee the war will ever be over. Naturally a brief intermission is conceivable. Maybe the war needs a breather, a war can even break its neck, so to speak. But the kings and emperors, not to mention the pope, will always come to its help in adversity. ON the whole, I'd say this war has very little to worry about, it'll live to a ripe old age."







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I have had my computer on weekends, so I saw a post last weekend about the 2mT for the 4T. Looking at what has happened, I do not see that we are just started a 2mT, but finishing it or it is gone.

2001-2008 1mT: WTC attacks and growing fear.
2008-2012 2mT: Finanical Crisis and VOCAL response from first the Tea Party (mostly Xers) and Occupiers (mostly Millies).
2012-?: Increasing employment, consumer spending, and more demands from the 2mT being met.
4mT for 4T, The Climax: Hopefully mild, hopefully a foreign total war at worst, but there are doubts.

As far as 2mT in music, there is more of a dance alternative sound that came out. Not much of a change as it being like a positive version of Garbage's negative version of alternative dance.
Initially, the questions I ask when reviewing any saeculur event: What did the decision makers know about the cyclical time, when did they know it, and how did they act on that knowledge? Then I can ask the question, "what was their purpose?" I take extra special notice when reviewing events before Generations was released by Strauss-Howe.







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Quote Originally Posted by TeddyR View Post
Take it easy guys, I was joking and paying homage to Chas.
I suppose in the future I should put this emoticon on almost everything I post:



~Chas'88
"There have always been people who say: "The war will be over someday." I say there's no guarantee the war will ever be over. Naturally a brief intermission is conceivable. Maybe the war needs a breather, a war can even break its neck, so to speak. But the kings and emperors, not to mention the pope, will always come to its help in adversity. ON the whole, I'd say this war has very little to worry about, it'll live to a ripe old age."







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Quote Originally Posted by TeddyR View Post
The shepherd's flock grows with more young disciples each day.
And old (a couple of years) . If there was a forum president, I would nominate Chas.
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Quote Originally Posted by millennialX View Post
And old (a couple of years) . If there was a forum president, I would nominate Chas.
Thank you for the compliment, but I would decline.

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Quote Originally Posted by Chas'88 View Post
The difference between a micro-Crisis; a micro-High; and a micro-Awakening:

micro-Crisis - death of the old culture, vast changes occurring on the heels of one another, a seeming sweeping momentous movement of change that everyone is caught up in--a shift where both Turning cultures exist--one dying and the other being born

micro-High - stasis, no change, all attempts to make any change to the newly born Turning culture are met unfavorably, people all accept the new Turning culture--very little question it; those that do are seen as part of the "dead" order & are considered to be "out-of-touch" jokes; we're concerned about existing in a "place"

micro-Awakening - a spark ignites the urge to make changes once again, but they aren't ever completely implemented, the unified stasis of the previous "calm period" splits into two or more factions warring for control, new ideas are created that challenge the Turning culture, but aren't seen as very great threats... there is a purity to action & intent, people actually mean what they say; Compromise is no solution--purists will have their way or no way at all

micro-Unraveling - further fragmentation of the Turning culture occurs, no longer do people feel so attached to it, but they don't see how they could possibly do anything to make things any different (after all, you could lop off the head of the snake, & the system will still survive), a large questioning of meaning--"impurity" in the larger Turning culture & in language begins to crop up as no one really believes the memes of the Turning culture anymore; Time seems to speed up quite rapidly

micro-Crisis - no one believes the meme of the Turning anymore & thus to prevent the "system" from collapsing in on itself, grand sweeping changes are implemented to "re-invent" our culture into a new Turning with a new meme in order to perpetuate society, because the only other choice is for everything to fall apart...

Excellently laid out. Maybe along with a few others who experienced the 2T/3T shift in person as young people, like LateBoomer, Teddy R and Roadbuilder '59 and others, I would propose another set of dates that I think would correspond perfectly to the descripions above (yes, I'm annoying but the alternative view needs being noted):

micro-Crisis: 1977-1980
micro-High: 1981-1986
micro-Awakening: 1987-1993
micro-Unraveling: 1994-2000
micro-Crisis: 2001-2007

Apart from cultural malaise, stagflation, descent into the Second Cold War and wide ranging repudiation/bankruptcy of leftism etc, watching the documentary "1977 - The Coolest Year in Hell" can be worthwhile as a pop cultural backdrop to the Awakening "micro-Crisis" (as Chas puts it) and the environment in which the Unraveling was born, which according to me basically were the Carter years. Yes, it's hyped, but it nevertheless captures the feel of the period, I think. It also highlights yet again why New York "is the place where the future goes to rehearse". The Summer of Sam, for instance it has been said, was like a portal in time and history went through it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFgyezfS6ik

Seen from the perspective of the micro turning model, I of course belong to the crowd to declare that the micro-High as well as the 80's would begin on time in 1980/81. Just the display of a young David Gahan ought to be enough to show that by then we weren't in the Awakening no more: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQDI-C441is
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Post#350 at 01-29-2012 07:16 AM by Tussilago [at Gothenburg, Sweden joined Jan 2010 #posts 1,500]
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Extending it to include the Awakening and into the 4T, it might fall into place something like this:

High micro-Crisis: 1959-1963
Awakening micro-High: 1964-1966
Awakening micro-Awakening: 1967-1971
Awakening micro-Unraveling: 1972-1976

Awakening micro-Crisis: 1977-1980
Unraveling micro-High: 1981-1986
Unraveling micro-Awakening: 1987-1993
Unraveling micro-Unraveling: 1994-2000

Unraveling micro-Crisis: 2001-2007
Crisis micro-High: 2008-2011 (?)
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