Another interesting question i have always thought about is why do some see ghosts, and some dont.

Originally Posted by Taramarie

Yes it does but my first experience was so traumatizing i was terrified of them after that. I thought someone had broken into the house and was leaning over me in a threatening manner. I feared for my life. So, that is why i say, better him than me! But has made me really think and try rationalize it but i come up empty. But because this house has been extremely active that is something i just cannot say oh that did not happen. So it has been a learning curb yet i have not really come up with a solution. I just connected them to energy as that is what they look like to me and sound like i may add. The same feel as if there is a person nearby. Oh ok so that is what that means. Well some seem very aware and some seem to not be aware of others around them. The man definitely paid attention to me. The lady minds her own business. Never looked at me (am grateful!) Well i know that physical life is not all there is. At least for some anyway. It is interesting to think about it. I have been torn between just the now then nothing, but then i think of what i have seen and think well wtf are those? They are most certainly people. I know it sounds crazy but the guy spoke. The lady of course, no. She pays no attention. Do not care if no one believes me. Not many do. But i know what i went through in this damned house my whole childhood. I do not think life is meaningless without life after death. I enjoy my life now and appreciate it for the fact i am mortal, but my experience says there is something whether aware or not and it seems different for everyone. I do not know why.

Maybe you needed a ghostbuster
https://youtu.be/m9We2XsVZfc
You had an interesting experience, indeed. I have never seen those things. But I have had some interest in the paranormal since 1966.

Ironically, you say you "enjoy your life now." But my point in the words you highlighted is only that you are always in the present moment. Think about that. What does that mean?

Mystics say that it connects you with the eternal.

Spirit? Well, i have always thought it is energy. In my experience with ghosts here, i knew they were around when i could first of all pick up someone was near. It is that feeling of knowing someone is there without seeing them. Not sure if you understand. I could sense it moving down the hall, then id hear the same sound electrical appliances make. It is a light hissing sound when the power is on. Then i would see them if they go past a direct light source, a window or a lamp. It seems similar to energy. I dont know if consciousness is spirit. I only know some seem aware of people and some dont. But they seem to have purpose even if aware of people or not so, i dont know. Science has an explanation for being conscious but i have seen it with ghosts too so i listen to science and see with my eyes what the ghosts do. I dont understand what i highlighted. Lol i can only explain what i have experienced and try rationalize it which is hard to do for me given i tend to lean heavily on science. I dont know about eternal...only what i have seen. Connected to all....what...

Science has no explanation for consciousness. It is called "the hard problem." It is actually a philosophical problem. You can't explain consciousness with its objects alone.

The energy you saw was not like the energy of our technology. It doesn't seem like it could be a phenomenon like the weather either.

You are conscious. That is you. That is also called "spirit." The ghosts are just other spirits like you. They are don't have human bodies right now. That is the simplest explanation for the phenomenon, as Fontana said.

Connected to all. Where does yourself end and others begin? There are no boundaries. You are just a part of the rest of the universe. We forget that.

Originally Posted by Eric the Green

Maybe you needed a ghostbuster
https://youtu.be/m9We2XsVZfc
You had an interesting experience, indeed. I have never seen those things. But I have had some interest in the paranormal since 1966.

Ironically, you say you "enjoy your life now." But my point in the words you highlighted is only that you are always in the present moment. Think about that. What does that mean?

Mystics say that it connects you with the eternal.



Science has no explanation for consciousness. It is called "the hard problem." It is actually a philosophical problem. You can't explain consciousness with its objects alone.

The energy you saw was not like the energy of our technology. It doesn't seem like it could be a phenomenon like the weather either.

You are conscious. That is you. That is also called "spirit." The ghosts are just other spirits like you. They are don't have human bodies right now. That is the simplest explanation for the phenomenon, as Fontana said.

Connected to all. Where does yourself end and others begin? There are no boundaries. You are just a part of the rest of the universe. We forget that.

Boy you are lucky. I could have done without it. Nice that someone believes what i have gone through though. Thank you.

Originally Posted by Eric the Green

Maybe you needed a ghostbuster
https://youtu.be/m9We2XsVZfc
You had an interesting experience, indeed. I have never seen those things. But I have had some interest in the paranormal since 1966.

Ironically, you say you "enjoy your life now." But my point in the words you highlighted is only that you are always in the present moment. Think about that. What does that mean?

Mystics say that it connects you with the eternal.



Science has no explanation for consciousness. It is called "the hard problem." It is actually a philosophical problem. You can't explain consciousness with its objects alone.

The energy you saw was not like the energy of our technology. It doesn't seem like it could be a phenomenon like the weather either.

You are conscious. That is you. That is also called "spirit." The ghosts are just other spirits like you. They are don't have human bodies right now. That is the simplest explanation for the phenomenon, as Fontana said.

Connected to all. Where does yourself end and others begin? There are no boundaries. You are just a part of the rest of the universe. We forget that.

Well, i have managed to block it out and also since my nana passed away the attacks ended. The weird activity continues, lights and such. At least no more floodings! I can handle the light switch being turned on. It has become such a common thing it is more of an annoyance than anything. As long as i continue to not be attacked they can stay.

Originally Posted by Eric the Green

Maybe you needed a ghostbuster
https://youtu.be/m9We2XsVZfc
You had an interesting experience, indeed. I have never seen those things. But I have had some interest in the paranormal since 1966.

Ironically, you say you "enjoy your life now." But my point in the words you highlighted is only that you are always in the present moment. Think about that. What does that mean?

Mystics say that it connects you with the eternal.



Science has no explanation for consciousness. It is called "the hard problem." It is actually a philosophical problem. You can't explain consciousness with its objects alone.

The energy you saw was not like the energy of our technology. It doesn't seem like it could be a phenomenon like the weather either.

You are conscious. That is you. That is also called "spirit." The ghosts are just other spirits like you. They are don't have human bodies right now. That is the simplest explanation for the phenomenon, as Fontana said.

Connected to all. Where does yourself end and others begin? There are no boundaries. You are just a part of the rest of the universe. We forget that.

It means i am living and i am aware of what is going on currently

Originally Posted by Eric the Green

Maybe you needed a ghostbuster
https://youtu.be/m9We2XsVZfc
You had an interesting experience, indeed. I have never seen those things. But I have had some interest in the paranormal since 1966.

Ironically, you say you "enjoy your life now." But my point in the words you highlighted is only that you are always in the present moment. Think about that. What does that mean?

Mystics say that it connects you with the eternal.



Science has no explanation for consciousness. It is called "the hard problem." It is actually a philosophical problem. You can't explain consciousness with its objects alone.

The energy you saw was not like the energy of our technology. It doesn't seem like it could be a phenomenon like the weather either.

You are conscious. That is you. That is also called "spirit." The ghosts are just other spirits like you. They are don't have human bodies right now. That is the simplest explanation for the phenomenon, as Fontana said.

Connected to all. Where does yourself end and others begin? There are no boundaries. You are just a part of the rest of the universe. We forget that.

I did not say it is like the energy of our technology. It reminds me of it.

Originally Posted by Eric the Green

Maybe you needed a ghostbuster
https://youtu.be/m9We2XsVZfc
You had an interesting experience, indeed. I have never seen those things. But I have had some interest in the paranormal since 1966.

Ironically, you say you "enjoy your life now." But my point in the words you highlighted is only that you are always in the present moment. Think about that. What does that mean?

Mystics say that it connects you with the eternal.



Science has no explanation for consciousness. It is called "the hard problem." It is actually a philosophical problem. You can't explain consciousness with its objects alone.

The energy you saw was not like the energy of our technology. It doesn't seem like it could be a phenomenon like the weather either.

You are conscious. That is you. That is also called "spirit." The ghosts are just other spirits like you. They are don't have human bodies right now. That is the simplest explanation for the phenomenon, as Fontana said.

Connected to all. Where does yourself end and others begin? There are no boundaries. You are just a part of the rest of the universe. We forget that.

Is that like auras? That is something i also see although i find it strange they say they are in colours. I see it same as ghosts. Pale see through whitish colour just a centimeter from a person. It reminds me of them.

Originally Posted by Eric the Green

Maybe you needed a ghostbuster
https://youtu.be/m9We2XsVZfc
You had an interesting experience, indeed. I have never seen those things. But I have had some interest in the paranormal since 1966.

Ironically, you say you "enjoy your life now." But my point in the words you highlighted is only that you are always in the present moment. Think about that. What does that mean?

Mystics say that it connects you with the eternal.



Science has no explanation for consciousness. It is called "the hard problem." It is actually a philosophical problem. You can't explain consciousness with its objects alone.

The energy you saw was not like the energy of our technology. It doesn't seem like it could be a phenomenon like the weather either.

You are conscious. That is you. That is also called "spirit." The ghosts are just other spirits like you. They are don't have human bodies right now. That is the simplest explanation for the phenomenon, as Fontana said.

Connected to all. Where does yourself end and others begin? There are no boundaries. You are just a part of the rest of the universe. We forget that.

right now??

Originally Posted by Taramarie

It means i am living and i am aware of what is going on currently

Good. I don't mean to push you.

To me, although we have past and future, so that things flow and change, that I am always now means there is no other time than now. So I am connected to all of time.

Originally Posted by Taramarie

Is that like auras? That is something i also see although i find it strange they say they are in colours. I see it same as ghosts. Pale see through whitish colour just a centimeter from a person. It reminds me of them.

It's hard for me to believe that you are materialist-oriented, and yet have these experiences. It would make me curious about the paranormal.

I see auras too though. I can see colors faintly.

The aura, though, is something you see in others. To know what spirit is, you simply be aware of yourself. You are the one seeing, or being aware.

Spirits, whether living or dead, are just others who also see; other conscious beings like yourself. Consciousness = spirit. That's how it seems to me, quite clearly.

The aura is what Sheldrake called the dream body, also called the energy body, subtle body or astral body. Your chakras are the focul points of energy you can feel, and they are where your subtle body or aura connects to your physical body. The chakras are also physical nerve ganglia, and are related to endocrine centers.

Originally Posted by Eric the Green

It's hard for me to believe that you are materialist-oriented, and yet have these experiences. It would make me curious about the paranormal.

I see auras too though. I can see colors faintly.

The aura, though, is something you see in others. To know what spirit is, you simply be aware of yourself. You are the one seeing, or being aware.

Spirits, whether living or dead, are just others who also see; other conscious beings like yourself. Consciousness = spirit. That's how it seems to me, quite clearly.

The aura is what Sheldrake called the dream body, also called the energy body, subtle body or astral body. Your chakras are the focul points of energy you can feel, and they are where your subtle body or aura connects to your physical body. The chakras are also physical nerve ganglia, and are related to endocrine centers.

I am just being honest. I rely heavily on science but have been curious all my life about the paranormal due to my mother raising me very early on scary movies/books. I have had a strong sense of what i call energy ever since i can remember which makes me wonder why others do not have this sense. I simply tried to explain it through science as i have always had this ability yet could not explain it logically.

Originally Posted by Eric the Green

It's hard for me to believe that you are materialist-oriented, and yet have these experiences. It would make me curious about the paranormal.

I see auras too though. I can see colors faintly.

The aura, though, is something you see in others. To know what spirit is, you simply be aware of yourself. You are the one seeing, or being aware.

Spirits, whether living or dead, are just others who also see; other conscious beings like yourself. Consciousness = spirit. That's how it seems to me, quite clearly.

The aura is what Sheldrake called the dream body, also called the energy body, subtle body or astral body. Your chakras are the focul points of energy you can feel, and they are where your subtle body or aura connects to your physical body. The chakras are also physical nerve ganglia, and are related to endocrine centers.

I think i will just call it the energy body. It makes more sense to me. Well, they seem aware, some more than others. I dont understand what i have highlighted. I wont even bother with the chakras. That is way beyond my line of thinking!

Originally Posted by pbrower2a

You have done that?

Yes, I've admitted to conning people out of money by pretending to be a psychic before my last post. The first time was around 2012. Eric and I were arguing over tarot cards, I rather bluntly explained that they are a prop that anyone remotely good at cold reading can use to craft stories about it. I've also been a psychic friend too. I have a decent enough phone presence so I can keep people on the line.

Like I said though. For entertainment purposes only.

I could probably do much the same myself, except without any allusions to Africa. But I have read much philosophy and psychology so I am a few steps ahead of most people.

You'd be amazed at how being black and putting on an accent can make people pay you money to lie to them.

It's the 'pimp' part that makes it tacky. Because of what pimps do to women, anything associated with them is debased.

Clearly you don't understand the AAVE use of the term Pimp.

At least low-riders are associated with a benign culture.

Not to my tastes. It is alright for some people though.

Excused. In classical music, anything that draws attention away from the music generally debases the concert experience.

PBR that is just plain snobbery. Music is either objectively good, or objectively terrible.

The Liberace audience did not 'graduate' to more traditional concert-going.

I doubt they would have. That they were exposed to any of the classics was a net positive.

If an artistic expression is great enough it will have appeal beyond the generation of the creators and of the original audience.

So you are indeed tilting at windmills.

Originally Posted by Taramarie

Another interesting question i have always thought about is why do some see ghosts, and some dont.

Perhaps ghosts may finally be explained through quantum physics. The Russians call what we call "parapsychology", paraphysics.

Originally Posted by Taramarie

I think i will just call it the energy body. It makes more sense to me. Well, they seem aware, some more than others. I don't understand what i have highlighted. I wont even bother with the chakras. That is way beyond my line of thinking!

An interesting subject when and if you get interested; but remember that I said they are also physical. And that's what the aura is, which is why I brought them up.

For what you have highlighted, with statements like that I am just trying to point out what you experience all the time or, as it were, to direct your attention toward the obvious. It's simple to follow.

You are aware, right? THAT is your spirit.

Remember too that science has no explanation for your awareness, and never will have one. Science does not even claim to have one.

Many people who accept the modern science paradigm are just looking at themselves from the point of view of other people. That is what we are taught to do. It is like seeing yourself from the point of view of your teacher, or your parents. It's how they want you to see yourself, so they can control you.

But if you switch your point of view, and be true to your OWN experience, then you are the one seeing others. Always, other objects are seen by your own awareness.

From that point of view, time is always now. It has always been now, and always will be now. You have no awareness of the past besides your awareness of it now. Going by what others tell you, does not get you to understanding from the spirit point of view.

Ghosts are just other aware spirits like yourself, just as other people are. They just have their energy body, but not a physical body now.

Originally Posted by Taramarie

I am just being honest. I rely heavily on science but have been curious all my life about the paranormal due to my mother raising me very early on scary movies/books. I have had a strong sense of what i call energy ever since i can remember which makes me wonder why others do not have this sense. I simply tried to explain it through science as i have always had this ability yet could not explain it logically.

Science can verify it exists through controlled observation, like Dr. Fontana and his colleagues did. But it can't "explain" it. It can't put it in a box of materialist explanations. It is part of the spirit world, the world of the mind and consciousness which science can't explain.

Originally Posted by MordecaiK

Perhaps ghosts may finally be explained through quantum physics. The Russians call what we call "parapsychology", paraphysics.

hmm maybe. It shall be interesting if it can be explained scientifically. So many cases reporting what i have been through and all very similar. So, there must be some explanation especially for the very odd cases like mine which can not be explained as of yet.

Originally Posted by Eric the Green

An interesting subject when and if you get interested; but remember that I said they are also physical. And that's what the aura is, which is why I brought them up.

For what you have highlighted, with statements like that I am just trying to point out what you experience all the time or, as it were, to direct your attention toward the obvious. It's simple to follow.

You are aware, right? THAT is your spirit.

Remember too that science has no explanation for your awareness, and never will have one. Science does not even claim to have one.

Many people who accept the modern science paradigm are just looking at themselves from the point of view of other people. That is what we are taught to do. It is like seeing yourself from the point of view of your teacher, or your parents. It's how they want you to see yourself, so they can control you.

But if you switch your point of view, and be true to your OWN experience, then you are the one seeing others. Always, other objects are seen by your own awareness.

From that point of view, time is always now. It has always been now, and always will be now. You have no awareness of the past besides your awareness of it now. Going by what others tell you, does not get you to understanding from the spirit point of view.

Ghosts are just other aware spirits like yourself, just as other people are. They just have their energy body, but not a physical body now.

So this "chakra" is spirit or energy as i like to call it? Hmm i dunno. What i know that is physical is what i have been through and experienced. Hand marks, scratches, doors opening that can not be opened by wind given the design of the door (wood swelling) and the way it is positioned, taps gushing water and the lights that decide to flip their switches or pushed in (globe lamp on wall). That is physical, yet weird thing is, the lady that is here, last time i saw her she went through my wall. I only saw her because she went through my lamp which illuminated her.

Oh i see, you mean explain what i have gone through in my own words than the words of others. Hmm i dunno, i trust in science and did turn to it to explain what i was experiencing and for other things too. When i tell people what i have been through most think it is ridiculous. I am just saying factually what i have been through. Not making it up. People will not listen. You are one of the few who has. With some of it it is like being abused and no one believes you. I don't understand the spirit point of view, i just know what i have gone through, but do not understand them other than they are a ball of energy. Yes i am aware ghosts are aware, some not of people but some are. Trust me, i have had more experience with them than you by the sounds of things. Which makes me wonder why i can see them and people like you cannot.

Originally Posted by Eric the Green

Science can verify it exists through controlled observation, like Dr. Fontana and his colleagues did. But it can't "explain" it. It can't put it in a box of materialist explanations. It is part of the spirit world, the world of the mind and consciousness which science can't explain.

Yes, and that is what bothers me.

Originally Posted by Taramarie

Yes, and that is what bothers me.

No need for it to bother you. It does not matter if science cannot explain the paranormal or the spiritual. It is described by those who know about it through their experience. Consciousness is understood by being more conscious of it. That is called "looking within" and experiencing it.

One cannot expect science to explain things that, by their very nature, science cannot explain. I don't think one needs to worry if science cannot explain something. It's not the only kind of knowledge that there is.

If science could explain the spiritual, then it would not be spiritual. Science can only verify claims of the existence of spiritual events.

"Explain" means to assign a cause to something; what makes it happen. Causes cannot be assigned to what exists or happens without any prior cause. Spirit does not have a prior cause; it IS the prior cause.

Originally Posted by Taramarie

So this "chakra" is spirit or energy as i like to call it? Hmm i dunno.

No, you asked about the auras that you see. Auras are generated, so to speak, by the chakras, or you can say it is centered in the chakras.

Oh i see, you mean explain what i have gone through in my own words than the words of others. Hmm i dunno, i trust in science and did turn to it to explain what i was experiencing and for other things too.

Science may be able to verify what you are experiencing, but there are too few scientists around like Dr. Fontana or Dr. Sheldrake or other parapsychologists who are willing and able to do some kind of test for this. As you said, most people will not believe you. It takes someone who is open minded about the phenomenon.

I did not mean "using your own words" in my post above. You don't understand too well the point of view I am describing. I guess that is common among civics; I don't know. My civic parents and some of their older friends could not understand it either, although some younger borderline civic/artist-cusp people understood it well (people born after 1920).

To understand these things, you need to look at yourself; not think of yourself as an object that others see. Look at your consciousness, not your body. That's why you can't understand my point about "if you die you have never lived." It takes a switch in point of view. It is easy to switch your point of view, but our materialist culture does not allow or facilitate this. Some people here will not do this just because it is me that suggests doing it.

When i tell people what i have been through most think it is ridiculous. I am just saying factually what i have been through. Not making it up. People will not listen. You are one of the few who has. With some of it it is like being abused and no one believes you. I don't understand the spirit point of view, i just know what i have gone through, but do not understand them other than they are a ball of energy. Yes i am aware ghosts are aware, some not of people but some are. Trust me, i have had more experience with them than you by the sounds of things. Which makes me wonder why i can see them and people like you cannot.

People emit energy; that is the aura, and we also are energetic beings. We do things; we act. What you are seeing as balls of energy are the actions created by spirits, most likely from your description. If it is just some strange physical energy, then it would have a physical explanation, and some scientist could tell you what's causing it.

I haven't seen these kinds of poltergeist events because I have never lived in a place that's haunted like that. I think it's fairly rare, or else more people would be interested in having it studied, and more people would believe your observations. If you have asked a scientist, and they can't explain it, I advise studying parapsychology or spiritual philosophy and that might give you the answers you need.

Originally Posted by Eric the Green

...

"Explain" means to assign a cause to something; what makes it happen. ...

Based on etymology, I've never seen any definition
of 'explain' where 'cause and effect' comes into play.

Ex-Planus. Latin. To 'level-out'.
Loosely, to 'make plain'.


Prince

Originally Posted by Eric the Green

No need for it to bother you. It does not matter if science cannot explain the paranormal or the spiritual. It is described by those who know about it through their experience. Consciousness is understood by being more conscious of it. That is called "looking within" and experiencing it.

One cannot expect science to explain things that, by their very nature, science cannot explain. I don't think one needs to worry if science cannot explain something. It's not the only kind of knowledge that there is.

If science could explain the spiritual, then it would not be spiritual. Science can only verify claims of the existence of spiritual events.

"Explain" means to assign a cause to something; what makes it happen. Causes cannot be assigned to what exists or happens without any prior cause. Spirit does not have a prior cause; it IS the prior cause.

Yeah that is the difference between us. I need to investigate things in a scientific manner to understand most things. Not all, but this is one of them. It is partly because of the fact many do not believe me and i need to show them they exist. I should not care tbh. I know what i have been through. But it also helps me to understand why they are there.

Originally Posted by Taramarie

Yeah that is the difference between us. I need to investigate things in a scientific manner to understand most things. Not all, but this is one of them. It is partly because of the fact many do not believe me and i need to show them they exist. I should not care tbh. I know what i have been through. But it also helps me to understand why they are there.

lol but this is probably NOT "one of them." If it is, then science will give you the understanding. If it isn't, then you'll need other kinds of knowledge to understand it. But you can always bring a scientific approach to it, like Dr. Fontana did as he explained in the video. Science can eliminate incorrect explanations such as fraud or arbitrary religious belief.

A scientific attitude means you know things yourself, or through observations that have been verified, rather than through mere authority, dogma or tradition. Nothing wrong with that. But if you say that you must understand the paranormal through science alone, or a materialist philosophy, then that itself is a dogma.

from google:

What is the meaning of the word Poltergeist?
In folklore and parapsychology, a poltergeist (German for "noisy ghost") is a type of ghost or other supernatural being supposedly responsible for physical disturbances such as loud noises and objects moved around or destroyed.

Another suggested explanation for poltergeist activity is that you yourself are causing it. So it is still spiritual, but YOU are the spirit that is psychically causing it through telekinesis. I wouldn't put that past a Scorpio

http://www.psychicscience.org/polt1.aspx

Originally Posted by Eric the Green

No, you asked about the auras that you see. Auras are generated, so to speak, by the chakras, or you can say it is centered in the chakras.



Science may be able to verify what you are experiencing, but there are too few scientists around like Dr. Fontana or Dr. Sheldrake or other parapsychologists who are willing and able to do some kind of test for this. As you said, most people will not believe you. It takes someone who is open minded about the phenomenon.

I did not mean "using your own words" in my post above. You don't understand too well the point of view I am describing. I guess that is common among civics; I don't know. My civic parents and some of their older friends could not understand it either, although some younger borderline civic/artist-cusp people understood it well (people born after 1920).

To understand these things, you need to look at yourself; not think of yourself as an object that others see. Look at your consciousness, not your body. That's why you can't understand my point about "if you die you have never lived." It takes a switch in point of view. It is easy to switch your point of view, but our materialist culture does not allow or facilitate this. Some people here will not do this just because it is me that suggests doing it.



People emit energy; that is the aura, and we also are energetic beings. We do things; we act. What you are seeing as balls of energy are the actions created by spirits, most likely from your description. If it is just some strange physical energy, then it would have a physical explanation, and some scientist could tell you what's causing it.

I haven't seen these kinds of poltergeist events because I have never lived in a place that's haunted like that. I think it's fairly rare, or else more people would be interested in having it studied, and more people would believe your observations. If you have asked a scientist, and they can't explain it, I advise studying parapsychology or spiritual philosophy and that might give you the answers you need.

I needed to sit here a good while and try figure out what you are on about. Do you mean look at what we sense and look within ourselves for the answer?? For me, no i do not care this is coming from you. It may be that not understanding these things is more common for civics. This civic just does not understand.