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How artificial intelligence is usually concieved.
Besides weak AI and strong AI, there is another concept - mild AI.
I recall reading about concept for robotic space probes-a probe would have a trio of computers that would vote before taking action. This might be a way for weak AI (or as I think of it, pseudo AI) to achieve a very rudimentary level of real intelligence. But that would be unlike animal brains-actually, it might be akin to elections in the political system, not being absolutely predictable.
Moore's Law prolonged.
Mild intelligence may just be starting to appear. One might compare this to the domestication of animals millenia ago. But at least we can feel an affinity with some of the mammalian species, and have some idea as to where they are coming from. Mild AI might be regarded as useful for some niche applications, but too eccentric for a fully automated economy.
Book, copyright 2013. Our Final Invention Artificial Intelligence And The End Of The Human Era by James Barrat. A book about the Singularity; the author focuses on the dangers of AI.
Stuff and nonsense. AI would never do that.
Oh? Why is that? Are you implying an intrinsic morality to machine intelligence? You might enjoy the movie Ex Machina as a counter example. Intelligent machines are less likely to be self-sacrificing than self-protective.Originally Posted by naf140230
Marx: Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies.
Lennon: You either get tired fighting for peace, or you die.
God, what a GREAT movie that was!!!
" ... a man of notoriously vicious and intemperate disposition."
Shut up! You ever heard of Isaac Asimov? He wrote about what is called the Three Laws of Robotics. Don't you know what that is?
That assume that the three laws will be implemented in a manner that cannot be overridden. You can see how well human law restrains those who wish to do otherwise. Why should intelligent machines be different?
When Asimov was alive, the entire field that we now describe as chaos theory didn't even exist in concept. The greater the degree of complexity the less capable we are to define it. We discovered that as we created ever more complex software programs. A fully sentient machine would be many orders of magnitude more complex than the most complex programs of today. In short, it will be impossible to know with any degree of certainty just how compliant any given machine will be the restraints of the three laws.
Marx: Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies.
Lennon: You either get tired fighting for peace, or you die.
The history of chaos theory is most interesting.
A history of chaos theory
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3202497/
… "Chaos theory is a mathematical theory, and it is still in development. It enables the description of a series of phenomena from the field of dynamics, ie, that field of physics concerning the effect of forces on the motion of objects. The archetype of all theories of dynamics is that of Newton, concerning celestial motions.”…
… "Birth of the chaos theory
Poincaré and phase space
… "The phenomenon of sensitivity to initial conditions (Table I) was discovered by Poincaré in his study of the the n-body problem, then by Jacques Hadamard using a mathematical model named geodesic flow, on a surface with a nonpositive curvature, called Hadamard's billards. A century after Laplace, Poincaré indicated that randomness and determinism become somewhat compatible because of the long term unpredictability…. small differences in the initial conditions may generate very large differences in the final phenomena. A small error in the former will lead to an enormous error In the latter. Prediction then becomes impossible, and we have a random phenomenon.
This was the birth of chaos theory.”...
… "The nonlinear equations concern specifically discontinuous phenomena such as explosions, sudden breaks In materials, or tornados. Although they share some universal characteristics, nonlinear solutions tend to be individual and peculiar. In contrast to regular curves from linear equations, the graphic representation of nonlinear equations shows breaks, loops, recursions all kinds of turbulences.”…
… "Rebirth of chaos theory
Lorenz and the butterfly effect
Edward Lorenz, from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) is the official discoverer of chaos theory. He first observed the phenomenon as early as 1961 and, as a matter of irony, he discovered by chance what would be called later the chaos theory, in 1963,18 …Lorenz considered, as did many mathematicians of his time, that a small variation at the start of a calculation would Induce a small difference In the result, of the order of magnitude of the initial variation. This was obviously not the case,… Lorenz had rediscovered the chaotic behavior of a nonlinear system, that of the weather, but the term chaos theory was only later given to the phenomenon by the mathematician James A. Yorke, in 1975.21”…
In order to continue serious technical progress we'd need to drop all the RoHS bullshit and use the best materials for each task. We'd also need to get much more serious about putting in place Big Energy.
With today's anti-scientific masses, lack of funds, and extreme sentimentality regarding so called "environmental issues" I just don't see The Singularity happening during this wave of advanced humanity. And they do come in waves. This wave will crest, and we will have another Age of Migrations and subsequent long period with no progress or even regression to a more primitive state. To boot, as much as some people try to invoke the notion of MADD to claim total war will never happen, human nature will still take us there.
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