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Post#76 at 03-15-2014 01:37 PM by JordanGoodspeed [at joined Mar 2013 #posts 3,587]
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Protests among the masses (Well, the Muscovites, at this point) and grand plans among the elite in Russia. Vote's tomorrow in the Crimea. Interestinger and interestinger.
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Putin continuing to nibble.







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Post#79 at 03-17-2014 11:55 AM by Marx & Lennon [at '47 cohort still lost in Falwelland joined Sep 2001 #posts 16,709]
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Quote Originally Posted by JordanGoodspeed View Post
Protests among the masses (Well, the Muscovites, at this point) and grand plans among the elite in Russia. Vote's tomorrow in the Crimea. More and more interesting.
Picking a nit.
Marx: Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies.
Lennon: You either get tired fighting for peace, or you die.







Post#80 at 03-17-2014 12:41 PM by JordanGoodspeed [at joined Mar 2013 #posts 3,587]
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Disagree...-er.







Post#81 at 03-19-2014 03:12 PM by Eric the Green [at San Jose CA joined Jul 2001 #posts 22,504]
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Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Green View Post
There won't be a major international war this time in Ukraine, but there could be more violence. The next 3 months are critical. The days around April 22, and late May/early June, will be the most critical. Mars stationary in Libra, as I said before, has potential both for violent outbreaks (or wars if Saturn aspects), and for negotiated breakthroughs; both there and in other hotspots. So I think this situation will be resolved. I wrote to President Obama just now:

"I think the way to end the Ukraine crisis is for the Russians to withdraw any foreign troops and allow international officials into Crimea, and then for the Crimeans to have a referendum about which country they want to belong to. This referendum should be sponsored or supported by the Ukranian government. I don't think this solution is being discussed yet."

Self-determination is the principle to uphold here.
If you examine my predictions you'll note that I said this Spring will be a time of upsurge in the current Revolution with international complications. There is danger of war in April, May or June because Mars is stationary, but it's in Libra so diplomatic agreements are likely in this same time frame.

Also, Jupiter was stationary in 10 degrees Cancer when the Ukraine revolution happened. I might have mentioned this station in my book or my other posts. This is the degree Jupiter was stationary in when the Berlin Wall fell and the Velvet Revolution happened. It is also Gorbachev's natal Jupiter degree, and has other correlations to 1989 as well. The Ukraine affair is an extension of the 1989 Revolution.

The Ukraine situation is fulfilling my prediction, but I did not examine the charts to see if Ukraine was specifically targeted, or where the emphasis in the world might be. It looks from the charts for the eclipses in April that Ukraine is specifically targeted by the charts for these eclipses. It is very clear. So although I should have known earlier where this crisis would be focused, I can say now for sure that the crisis will stay hot through the Spring; that there is danger of war, but also agreements are possible to stave it off. It does not appear that a major international war is in the stars.

The revolutionary square of Uranus and Pluto is being expanded by Jupiter and Mars into a grand cross among those 4 planets. They all reach 13 degrees of cardinal signs around April 22. This is expanding the revolution and making it dangerous to world peace. This also targets the United States, born when the Sun was in 13 degrees Cancer (exactly where Jupiter will be on April 22). The danger of US interference and involvement abroad during this current Jupiter war cycle is not over. April and May could be flash points for USA involvement abroad. And this could be a sign of things to come next cycle.

The next Jupiter cycle comes around in 2025-26. I dealt with this 12-year USA war cycle in my videos.

(such as this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAoeW5fXJYU )
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Post#82 at 03-19-2014 03:19 PM by JordanGoodspeed [at joined Mar 2013 #posts 3,587]
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Good old retroactive predictions. Good to know there is a risk of war, peace, or nothing in the next few months.

Do you know what would be really impressive? If you could have mentioned Ukraine by name like a year ago, and not been banging on about the other civil war in the news, instead of trying to talk about how you totally should have predicted it and how impressed we all should be.







Post#83 at 03-19-2014 08:05 PM by Eric the Green [at San Jose CA joined Jul 2001 #posts 22,504]
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Russia is targeted too by these configurations in late April 2014. Pluto can indicate ruthless behavior, and it now is astride the Moon in Capricorn position for the new Russian Federation born in 1991. Hitler was born with Moon in Capricorn too. That doesn't mean Putin is a new Hitler, but his behavior does bring back some memories. Where does this new wolf stop? And when does The West stand up to him?

It would have been nicer if I had spelled out the location more clearly earlier. Woulda shoulda coulda; mea culpa.

As for Putin's own relationship to this configuration, his Sun is just 1 degree off, but in 14 Libra not Capricorn. But Libra is where aggressive Mars is now going retrograde over his Sun, Saturn, Neptune and Mercury in Libra, having turned stationary in March (planets are strongest when stationary, and Mars is aggression) and is due to go stationary-direct in May.
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Post#84 at 03-20-2014 07:05 AM by JordanGoodspeed [at joined Mar 2013 #posts 3,587]
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It's alright, Eric, do you know who did? This guy!

You just set your astrological predictions off of that and you should be fine.







Post#85 at 03-20-2014 09:26 AM by herbal tee [at joined Dec 2005 #posts 7,116]
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Will Putin bring us together?

This is the first article I've seen that addresses the junction of current Russian history and how their actions may help shape the future of America's current 4T.

Quote Originally Posted by The Moderate Voice
Vladimir Putin’s grab of Crimea has exposed the paradoxes in American attitudes toward foreign policy.

Congress has been unusually united in condemning the Russian leader’s aggression and calling for his isolation. His belligerent offensive has been denounced by such liberals as Sens. Chris Murphy, D-Conn., and Dick Durbin, D-Ill., and by many conservatives, including Sens. John McCain, R-Ariz., and Ron Johnson, R-Wis.

On the other hand, a Pew Research Center poll found that by a margin of 56 percent to 29 percent, Americans said it was more important that the United States “not get too involved” in the Ukrainian situation than to “take a firm stand against Russian actions.”

Support for minimizing involvement spanned party lines: 50 percent of Republicans took this view, as did 55 percent of Democrats and 62 percent of independents. The survey ran March 6-9, before Russia annexed Crimea, but it nonetheless underscored the nation’s allergy to foreign entanglement, even as Americans also clearly and deeply mistrust Putin.

Annexing territory by force is as unacceptable to advocates of multilateralism as it is to those who believe in go-it-alone assertiveness. The Russian leader’s open mourning over the collapse of the Soviet Union horrifies liberals, who saw the end of the Cold War as an opportunity for a freer, less bellicose world, as well as conservatives, who always said that Putin’s KGB past was the truest indicator of his worldview and intentions.
For the record I have doubts that this is a defining moment of America's current 4T. However, in a 4T change is faster and so the idea can't be ruled out. Stay tuned.







Post#86 at 03-20-2014 11:26 AM by JordanGoodspeed [at joined Mar 2013 #posts 3,587]
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Quote Originally Posted by herbal tee View Post
This is the first article I've seen that addresses the junction of current Russian history and how their actions may help shape the future of America's current 4T.



For the record I have doubts that this is a defining moment of America's current 4T. However, in a 4T change is faster and so the idea can't be ruled out. Stay tuned.
Personally, I've been betting on a foreign threat based Regeneracy for a while now. I don't think it's a good idea, but I think it is what is going to happen.

I don't think this is the precipitating event, but I think that event is coming soon.







Post#87 at 03-20-2014 02:58 PM by Eric the Green [at San Jose CA joined Jul 2001 #posts 22,504]
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Quote Originally Posted by JordanGoodspeed View Post
It's alright, Eric, do you know who did? This guy!

You just set your astrological predictions off of that and you should be fine.
Against my better judgement, I read your posts. You did say Ukraine would come apart in the next 10 years, and Russia would get involved. But that's not a specific time. These now are the times of revolution; astrology allowed me to see and predict that decades ago. And I did mention the Middle East.

As for the other predictions in your post, they will all fail. And I have a better track record than anyone.

Although I do agree an international crisis and probably a war will develop "between 2020 and 2025" but not be a nuclear catastrophe. But I am more specific. It will begin in Sept. (or more-likely Dec./Jan.) 2020 (likely a war, in fact), and it will most likely be in central Asia (though I need to check more on the specific location; I will be doing that within days). This war will NOT involve the United States, at least not before 2025-- and even then the people will object to any involvement, and prefer to get involved in domestic disputes and revolution.

It takes careful examination and research to use astrology correctly. I don't claim I can just roll out correct predictions as a careless critic like you demands. Sometimes I don't get to review all the details in time, and past predictions I have made may need (or may have needed) revision.

And no such predictions can ever be perfect. This is not a mechanical universe, whether materialists try to explain it through physics and chemistry, or esoteric types like me try to do it with astrology or psychic intuition. Freedom exists, and knowledge has its limits.

But it has sure amazed me how much I have been able to sit back and watch things unfold more-or-less as I predicted. It has been a wonderful pastime. Astrology has given me a front-row seat to the future. I really was amazed, for example, when such a strange prediction as "a reform era in the Church" for this period actually materialized. Whoeva woulda thot!
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Post#88 at 03-20-2014 05:50 PM by JordanGoodspeed [at joined Mar 2013 #posts 3,587]
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I love how all of these amazing predictions come without citations, and excuses of why they're not going to be that accurate in the first place, wherever they are. Sorry Eric, there's a reason we're posting on the 4T board and not the Horoscope for the New Millennium one.
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Post#89 at 03-20-2014 05:53 PM by JordanGoodspeed [at joined Mar 2013 #posts 3,587]
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As for the other predictions in your post, they will all fail.
Will keep that in mind. Well, you've posted your predictions and I've posted mine. Time will tell.







Post#90 at 03-24-2014 05:05 PM by JordanGoodspeed [at joined Mar 2013 #posts 3,587]
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Ukraine cuts off power to Crimea. The story continues.







Post#91 at 03-25-2014 07:54 AM by JordanGoodspeed [at joined Mar 2013 #posts 3,587]
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Power restored. Russia booted from G8 (G7 again).







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I don't think I see Justin moving back to Russia again. The Just Visiting Corner, maybe.







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For a long list of the smartest people in the room being humbled, I suggest the high-stakes poker videos on You Tube. Or a good history book. Napoleon Bonaparte, for example. Or, see Stalin's last days. Sir Alec Guinness did a memorable performance of the most notorious meltdown of the twentieth century:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0070184/

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Post#94 at 03-27-2014 02:13 AM by Eric the Green [at San Jose CA joined Jul 2001 #posts 22,504]
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Obama is showing some weakness in this Russia/Ukraine crisis, as he did in Syria. He should have given strong aid to the free Syrian rebels (not troops, but weapons) to counter Russia's and Iran's support for Assad. Now he is facing a possible Russian invasion of Eastern Ukraine. Ukrainian's new leaders are pointing out that the USA, UK and Russia signed a treaty to guarantee Ukraine's security in exchange for Ukraine giving up its huge nuclear stockpile. It could be seen that the USA and UK are bound by this guarantee, and should be giving military aid to Ukraine too, to keep Russia from seizing more land. He is not doing this, leaving Ukraine open to invasion, which could happen in the next month or two.

I can understand if people say Crimea is lost to Russia. The ideal solution would be for Russia to withdraw from there, and Ukraine to agree to a binding referendum in Crimea on which country Crimea wants to join, supervised by international officials and secured by UN troops. If Russia agreed to this, then trade agreements could be developed between Ukraine and Russia as well as between Ukraine and Europe, and Ukraine could be the neutral state we say we want. If Russia didn't agree, there would be sanctions and Western aid to the Ukraine army. Failing this, we should get Putin to stop threatening eastern Ukraine before trade is restored and military aid withdrawn.
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Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Green View Post
Obama is showing some weakness in this Russia/Ukraine crisis, as he did in Syria. He should have given strong aid to the free Syrian rebels (not troops, but weapons) to counter Russia's and Iran's support for Assad. Now he is facing a possible Russian invasion of Eastern Ukraine. Ukrainian's new leaders are pointing out that the USA, UK and Russia signed a treaty to guarantee Ukraine's security in exchange for Ukraine giving up its huge nuclear stockpile. It could be seen that the USA and UK are bound by this guarantee, and should be giving military aid to Ukraine too, to keep Russia from seizing more land. He is not doing this, leaving Ukraine open to invasion, which could happen in the next month or two.

I can understand if people say Crimea is lost to Russia. The ideal solution would be for Russia to withdraw from there, and Ukraine to agree to a binding referendum in Crimea on which country Crimea wants to join, supervised by international officials and secured by UN troops. If Russia agreed to this, then trade agreements could be developed between Ukraine and Russia as well as between Ukraine and Europe, and Ukraine could be the neutral state we say we want. If Russia didn't agree, there would be sanctions and Western aid to the Ukraine army. Failing this, we should get Putin to stop threatening eastern Ukraine before trade is restored and military aid withdrawn.
Realpolitik ... so if I were Obama I'd be concerned about so called "non aligned" countries, so called NICs, etc, being able to say the US/NATO "drew first blood." Of course we know Russia already drew first blood but in the minds of the international "grievance community" it's always "West bad, East good." So in that frame of thinking, Russia simply corrected a historical wrong (thus far). If we go full bore into overtly pushing the West-East standoff point to the Ukraine eastern frontier, said "grievance community" will consider that "first blood" by The West. We all know that is completely wrong headed but life ain't fair when is comes to geopolitics.

All of that said, I think NATO entree into Ukraine (and vice versa) is inevitable.







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NATO entry into Ukraine would be suicidal.







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I lean toward the idea that the goal is to keep Ukraine neutral, but I am concerned about Russia invading more of Ukraine. This violates international law and is jungle statecraft. So I think I favor sending aid to the Ukrainian army, fulfilling the guarantee to them we signed, but not fighting there ourselves as it is not our fight directly. I don't see this policy as pushing an East-West standoff, but helping deter aggression by an ambitious autocrat. Ideally, the Ukrainians (including the Crimeans) should decide what sphere of influence(s) they want to belong to. It should not be Putin's decision by force of arms.

Ideally, NATO could expand to include Russia itself, and eventually merge with the UN to be a global guarantor of peace and good behavior by powers. This cannot happen under Putin's rule, I don't think.
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Quote Originally Posted by TimWalker View Post
NATO entry into Ukraine would be suicidal.
How so? NATO could bring a massive force to bear.







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The results of recent reforms in the Russian Military.

EDITED to switch the links around.
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Post#100 at 04-03-2014 07:06 PM by Eric the Green [at San Jose CA joined Jul 2001 #posts 22,504]
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Above I wrote about the Ukraine crisis, and what I did or did not predict about it. Looking again at my 1997-published book (written in circa 1992-93), I said this about this period:

RADICALS, FANATICS AND CRUSADERS

Despite all the positive responses to the crisis that began in 2010, indications are that things will remain unstable through most of the decade. Stationary Jupiter at 10 degrees Cancer, T-squaring Uranus and Pluto, could bring discontent to a crescendo in Europe early in 2014 in ways reminiscent of the fall of 1989 (when Jupiter was also stationary at 10 degrees Cancer). Mars will also make this T-square into a Grand Cross and turn stationary in May. It certainly looks as if the revolutionary tidal wave could wash up quickly on American shores this time. Since the U.S. will still be the world's top cop and its primary immigration service as well, problems in other countries will cause problems in America. The 2014 uprisings could give further impetus to constitutional changes being debated during the decade in many nations....

http://philosopherswheel.com/lookingovertheedge.html

I didn't check on which countries would be affected by this configuration in 2014, but I compared it to 1989, which commentators have also done regarding the Ukrainian uprising "early in 2014." In my notes I specifically said "January" too. Since this is a latter day velvet revolution in a former Soviet republic, comparisons to 1989 are appropo. The Jupiter return to exactly the same degree, and stationary there, is an obvious link. Note that these 2 revolutions occurred during major aspects to Uranus, the revolutionary planet (the Uranus-Neptune conjunction of circa 1989-1996, and the current square to Pluto).
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