Adina (or anyone) posting while intoxicated. That would be hilarious to see.

@Justin
Politics are always selfish to a certain extent. For the same reason that Boomers funnel money to themselves from the government, I want my ideas implemented in the government. It wouldn't make sense to support things that were completely contrary to my own interests now would it? Why don't you go out and vote against your own retirement? Give the money to the Boomers instead.

Originally Posted by Hutch74

Adina (or anyone) posting while intoxicated. That would be hilarious to see.

Considering how naive and stupid you guys seem to think I am, you probably wouldn't notice much of a difference.

Originally Posted by Adina

@Justin
Politics are always selfish to a certain extent. For the same reason that Boomers funnel money to themselves from the government, I want my ideas implemented in the government. It wouldn't make sense to support things that were completely contrary to my own interests now would it? Why don't you go out and vote against your own retirement? Give the money to the Boomers instead.

??Huhwhut??

I can't make the connection between what I said and what you said. I wonder -- maybe there just isn't one? But you used my name at the beginning, as if continuing a conversation with, or responding to, me.

It's confusing.

Uh, yes. Going back a page, I can see how it would be a bit of a non sequitur. I was essentially saying that part of my reason of opposing alcohol is not health related. It is merely selfish. I was simply stating that in politics a lot of people vote or support policies for purely selfish reasons.

Originally Posted by Adina

I was essentially saying that part of my reason of opposing alcohol is not health related. It is merely selfish.

I hate to break it to you, but that's been pretty obvious for a while now. The thing is, that's the only part of your opposition that is honest. And yet you keep acting as if the health argument is what really matters to you -- even when confronted with the fact that the health benefit isn't an argument in your favor!

Be honest. When you talk about wanting people jailed and abused, and their lives ruined for wanting to drink alcohol, just say that you want to do that to them because you are selfish. Don't try to claim there's any other reason.

They weould first only be fined, with the fine going up each time based on how much money they made. Then they would have to go to AA or whatever. They would get lots of chances. Maybe even 7 or so, before they were jailed. The ones that still couldn't quit would be die hard addicts that ought to be treated like any other drug addicts--flushing the poison from their systems.

Originally Posted by Adina

They weould first only be fined, with the fine going up each time based on how much money they made.

And if they resist paying the fine? Ultimately, they are to be killed.

Then they would have to go to AA or whatever.

And if they won't "go to AA"? And they resist? Ultimately, they are to be killed.

Maybe even 7 or so, before they were jailed.

And if they resist being caged? Ultimately, they are to be killed.

You imagine it to be something it isn't. Remember Aurelius. "The second thing is to look things in the face, and know them for what they are." A call to illegalize a behavior is a call to kill those who engage in that behavior. You can imagine it being as indirect as you want, but the two are nevertheless intrinsically tied.

With your reasoning, we ought to repeal laws that restrict drinking to people under 21. Because what if they resist? They are to be killed of course.

Originally Posted by Adina

With your reasoning, we ought to repeal laws that restrict drinking to people under 21. Because what if they resist? They are to be killed of course.

Of course.

Then again, unlike some people, I actually oppose murder.

Then it appears that your political opinions are no more ridiculous than you seem to think mine are. If you think that instituting Prohibition would cause massive violence, abolishing the government would cause much more. I pity you.

Originally Posted by Adina

...it appears that your political opinions are no more ridiculous than you seem to think mine are.

Indeed. Mine are not only no more, but actually much, much less ridiculous than yours. I think that's pretty clear -- even if you do set an unreasonably-low bar...

If you think that instituting Prohibition would cause massive violence, abolishing the government would cause much more.

Huh? I mean...

Huh?

I assume you either want to
-abolish the government completely
or
-make the police unable to use any type of force, and letting people go if they resist.

That's just fine for you to assume either one of those, or anything else you can imagine. Assumption provides a convenient alternative to investigation and critical analysis -- and life's not hardly long enough to give every matter its full critical due.

So, assume away! Just remain aware on the day you decide to ride it (or roll it up a ramp) of the fact that the "horse" is not actually a "sphere".

Enough with the games. Just summarize your political views. Do you consider yourself a Democrat or a Republican, or neither? Do you want to do away with the government [Y,N]? Do you support Obama or McCain?

Originally Posted by Adina

Just summarize your political views.

Eat me.

I've spent the better part of almost eight thousand posts talking about my views. To you, specifically and directly, I've laid them out at least twice that I can recall.

Originally Posted by Justin '77

Eat me.

I've spent the better part of almost eight thousand posts talking about my views. To you, specifically and directly, I've laid them out at least twice that I can recall.

It said "Sorry, No Matches." IIRC you said you were a Communist or Anarchist, or some such nonesense. Or some other widely discredited political viewpoint. If that's true, then good luck with that.

Aside for a few tweaks, I think that the government is fine the way it is.

Originally Posted by Justin '77

A call to illegalize a behavior is a call to kill those who engage in that behavior. You can imagine it being as indirect as you want, but the two are nevertheless intrinsically tied.

First try to convert them. If you can not convert them, subjugate them. If they will not be subjugated, kill them.

Seems like a lot of history has worked that way. And not just in the form of misguided application of religion, either.

Yeah, whatever.

Originally Posted by Justin '77

Eat me.

I've spent the better part of almost eight thousand posts talking about my views. To you, specifically and directly, I've laid them out at least twice that I can recall.

Doggies say WooF!

I'm sorry; Did I miss the funny somewhere?

Edit: I don't mean you Zig.

Edit Edit: Or you J.

What on earth are you blabbering on about?

Originally Posted by Adina

What on earth are you blabbering on about?

Ah. So you've already taken up our advice to engage in self-reflection? Let me know what you figure out.

Knock, knock

Who's there?

You ever hear the joke about the broken pencil?

You ever hear the joke about the broken pencil who?

Nevermind, it's pointless.

Originally Posted by Adina

Knock, knock

Who's there?

You ever hear the joke about the broken pencil?

You ever hear the joke about the broken pencil who?

Nevermind, it's pointless.

Hey Adina..

Prof Kaiser wrote a very good post earlier this morning directed to you. You should read it, reread it, think about it, and maybe try applying some parts of it:

http://fourthturning.com/forum/showt...991#post328991