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Post#4701 at 11-16-2011 09:57 PM by playwrite [at NYC joined Jul 2005 #posts 10,443]
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Quote Originally Posted by KaiserD2 View Post
The next election may feature two evils, but it will make a HUGE difference all the same.
Yes, the lesser and the greater.

To believe otherwise is akin to believing that since both tanning and high-level radiation burn, there's little difference between spending a day at the beach and being at ground zero when a nuke goes off.

Oh, it's not that a nihilist doesn't understand the tangible difference; it's that, at least for the existential type, they just don't think the difference is meaningful.

A good tan or totally evaporate - really, when it comes down to it, what's the difference?
"The Devil enters the prompter's box and the play is ready to start" - R. Service

Its not tax money. The banks have accounts with the Fed so, to lend to a bank, we simply use the computer to mark up the size of the account that they have with the Fed. Its much more akin to printing money. - B.Bernanke


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Post#4702 at 11-16-2011 10:23 PM by KaiserD2 [at David Kaiser '47 joined Jul 2001 #posts 5,220]
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Quote Originally Posted by The Rani View Post
I think that Chas just nailed it on the other thread.
The institutions need to be broken down, and until then who's running the show is of no consequence.
You sure keep us all guessing. . . .







Post#4703 at 11-16-2011 10:25 PM by Chas'88 [at In between Pennsylvania & Pennsyltucky joined Nov 2008 #posts 9,432]
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Quote Originally Posted by The Rani View Post
I think that Chas just nailed it on the other thread.
The institutions need to be broken down, and until then who's running the show is of no consequence.
Thanks. So, who else will be voting the Zombie Hickory/Zombie Teddy ticket? I know I will.

~Chas'88
"There have always been people who say: "The war will be over someday." I say there's no guarantee the war will ever be over. Naturally a brief intermission is conceivable. Maybe the war needs a breather, a war can even break its neck, so to speak. But the kings and emperors, not to mention the pope, will always come to its help in adversity. ON the whole, I'd say this war has very little to worry about, it'll live to a ripe old age."







Post#4704 at 11-16-2011 10:37 PM by Chas'88 [at In between Pennsylvania & Pennsyltucky joined Nov 2008 #posts 9,432]
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Quote Originally Posted by The Rani View Post
If we're starting a new political party, I'm voting for Zombie Bill Murray in the primary.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-RfM...eature=related
As long as Tallahassee is his running mate.

~Chas'88
"There have always been people who say: "The war will be over someday." I say there's no guarantee the war will ever be over. Naturally a brief intermission is conceivable. Maybe the war needs a breather, a war can even break its neck, so to speak. But the kings and emperors, not to mention the pope, will always come to its help in adversity. ON the whole, I'd say this war has very little to worry about, it'll live to a ripe old age."







Post#4705 at 11-16-2011 10:59 PM by Copperfield [at joined Feb 2010 #posts 2,244]
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Quote Originally Posted by playwrite View Post
A good tan or totally evaporate - really, when it comes down to it, what's the difference?
That depends. Would you prefer a quick painless death from evaporation or a slow, agonizing death from cancer?

Of course the end result is the same in either case. Dust and bones.







Post#4706 at 11-16-2011 11:03 PM by playwrite [at NYC joined Jul 2005 #posts 10,443]
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Quote Originally Posted by The Rani View Post
I think that Chas just nailed it on the other thread.
The institutions need to be broken down, and until then who's running the show is of no consequence.
The analogy still holds -

You believe you need a tan, and it makes no difference to you whether by a day at the beach or by being nuke'd. (Brings a whole new meaning to a "glowing tan." )

But even before you get to that, I always find it amusing that those desiring the "break down" have the implicit assumption that they would survive it. It's pretty clear indicator that they have never personally experienced such conditions, ..... or at least, studied Chaos Theory.
"The Devil enters the prompter's box and the play is ready to start" - R. Service

Its not tax money. The banks have accounts with the Fed so, to lend to a bank, we simply use the computer to mark up the size of the account that they have with the Fed. Its much more akin to printing money. - B.Bernanke


"Keep your filthy hands off my guns while I decide what you can & can't do with your uterus" - Sarah Silverman

If you meet a magic pony on the road, kill it. - Playwrite







Post#4707 at 11-16-2011 11:12 PM by playwrite [at NYC joined Jul 2005 #posts 10,443]
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Quote Originally Posted by Copperfield View Post
That depends. Would you prefer a quick painless death from evaporation or a slow, agonizing death from cancer?
I'm not a nihilist, I use SPF 20+



Quote Originally Posted by Copperfield View Post
Of course the end result is the same in either case. Dust and bones.
Yes, dust and bones. But on the way there, there's quality.... and the choice to chose it.
"The Devil enters the prompter's box and the play is ready to start" - R. Service

Its not tax money. The banks have accounts with the Fed so, to lend to a bank, we simply use the computer to mark up the size of the account that they have with the Fed. Its much more akin to printing money. - B.Bernanke


"Keep your filthy hands off my guns while I decide what you can & can't do with your uterus" - Sarah Silverman

If you meet a magic pony on the road, kill it. - Playwrite







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Quote Originally Posted by The Rani View Post
If we're starting a new political party, I'm voting for Zombie Bill Murray in the primary.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-RfM...eature=related
Gawd, I have had my fill of zombies lately, BUT that was brilliant casting.

By the way, Murray has actually come to life imitating art --- which is kind of sad.
"The Devil enters the prompter's box and the play is ready to start" - R. Service

Its not tax money. The banks have accounts with the Fed so, to lend to a bank, we simply use the computer to mark up the size of the account that they have with the Fed. Its much more akin to printing money. - B.Bernanke


"Keep your filthy hands off my guns while I decide what you can & can't do with your uterus" - Sarah Silverman

If you meet a magic pony on the road, kill it. - Playwrite







Post#4709 at 11-16-2011 11:17 PM by Chas'88 [at In between Pennsylvania & Pennsyltucky joined Nov 2008 #posts 9,432]
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Quote Originally Posted by playwrite View Post
But even before you get to that, I always find it amusing that those desiring the "break down" have the implicit assumption that they would survive it. It's pretty clear indicator that they have never personally experienced such conditions, ..... or at least, studied Chaos Theory.
I assume nothing. I'm only saying what I think the answer to the problem is.

Now, whether I survive the implementation of such a solution is dependent on my own ability to survive, and that alone. Please don't presume to speak for me. You know nothing of my life.

~Chas'88
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"There have always been people who say: "The war will be over someday." I say there's no guarantee the war will ever be over. Naturally a brief intermission is conceivable. Maybe the war needs a breather, a war can even break its neck, so to speak. But the kings and emperors, not to mention the pope, will always come to its help in adversity. ON the whole, I'd say this war has very little to worry about, it'll live to a ripe old age."







Post#4710 at 11-16-2011 11:21 PM by playwrite [at NYC joined Jul 2005 #posts 10,443]
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Quote Originally Posted by The Rani View Post
You started your own analogy and assumed that I wanted a tan in the first place.
And why on earth would a nihilist care about his/her personal survival?
Copperfield needs to give you some nihilism lessons.
Oh, I know you're about as much a nihilist as you are someone looking for a tan - your concern for my education makes that obvious.

You just like certain role playing.
"The Devil enters the prompter's box and the play is ready to start" - R. Service

Its not tax money. The banks have accounts with the Fed so, to lend to a bank, we simply use the computer to mark up the size of the account that they have with the Fed. Its much more akin to printing money. - B.Bernanke


"Keep your filthy hands off my guns while I decide what you can & can't do with your uterus" - Sarah Silverman

If you meet a magic pony on the road, kill it. - Playwrite







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Two threads ruined with this nihilist debate...so far.







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Quote Originally Posted by Chas'88 View Post
I assume nothing. I'm only saying what I think the answer to the problem is.

Now, whether I survive the implementation of such a solution is dependent on my own ability to survive, and that alone. Please don't presume to speak for me. You know nothing of my life.

~Chas'88
You do realize that all I said was that I find those desiring the 'break down' to be amusing.

You're response is interesting. So, now that it is clear about your desire, how far does this 'break down' have to go to satisfy you and why do you think it would stop there?

And why are you so sure that I know nothing of your life - how big and secretive do think drama world presents? You really are that confident that you've left no clues?
"The Devil enters the prompter's box and the play is ready to start" - R. Service

Its not tax money. The banks have accounts with the Fed so, to lend to a bank, we simply use the computer to mark up the size of the account that they have with the Fed. Its much more akin to printing money. - B.Bernanke


"Keep your filthy hands off my guns while I decide what you can & can't do with your uterus" - Sarah Silverman

If you meet a magic pony on the road, kill it. - Playwrite







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Quote Originally Posted by TeddyR View Post
Two threads ruined with this nihilist debate...so far.
If you don't think nihilism plays an important role in the 2012 election, or for that matter in most elections, you're missing a lot of clues about society and life in general.
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Its not tax money. The banks have accounts with the Fed so, to lend to a bank, we simply use the computer to mark up the size of the account that they have with the Fed. Its much more akin to printing money. - B.Bernanke


"Keep your filthy hands off my guns while I decide what you can & can't do with your uterus" - Sarah Silverman

If you meet a magic pony on the road, kill it. - Playwrite







Post#4714 at 11-16-2011 11:44 PM by playwrite [at NYC joined Jul 2005 #posts 10,443]
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Quote Originally Posted by The Rani View Post
All the world's a stage.
Looks like I went from nihilist to ingenue to actress in a few short posts.
Cher would envy the speed of the costume changes.
The really important question is -

Do you take request?
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Its not tax money. The banks have accounts with the Fed so, to lend to a bank, we simply use the computer to mark up the size of the account that they have with the Fed. Its much more akin to printing money. - B.Bernanke


"Keep your filthy hands off my guns while I decide what you can & can't do with your uterus" - Sarah Silverman

If you meet a magic pony on the road, kill it. - Playwrite







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Quote Originally Posted by TeddyR View Post
Two threads ruined with this nihilist debate...so far.
I know. And the sad thing is there's some weird belief that nihilists cannot also be hypocrites. So this train of silly is entirely about derailing the thread, not logic. Cheers.







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Quote Originally Posted by playwrite View Post
You're response is interesting. So, now that it is clear about your desire, how far does this 'break down' have to go to satisfy you and why do you think it would stop there?
Theatre-ese: I see the theme, not the beats.

And why are you so sure that I know nothing of your life - how big and secretive do think drama world presents? You really are that confident that you've left no clues?
Oh there are plenty scattered across this forum, if you care to go searching through a lot of old posts--but even so, there's still stuff that I've held back from discussing in public.

~Chas'88
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Quote Originally Posted by TeddyR View Post
Two threads ruined with this nihilist debate...so far.
Careful, it's catching! Wow, life is hard.







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Quote Originally Posted by The Rani View Post
If you don't realize that you're Bob Mackie, you haven't been paying attention.
My fav for obvious reasons -



- oh, and his draping isn't bad either.
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Its not tax money. The banks have accounts with the Fed so, to lend to a bank, we simply use the computer to mark up the size of the account that they have with the Fed. Its much more akin to printing money. - B.Bernanke


"Keep your filthy hands off my guns while I decide what you can & can't do with your uterus" - Sarah Silverman

If you meet a magic pony on the road, kill it. - Playwrite







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Quote Originally Posted by summer in the fall View Post
.... there's some weird belief that nihilists cannot also be hypocrites...
OMG that is funny!

True, but still pretty darn funny. I'm stealing it... and no, I won't give you credit.
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Its not tax money. The banks have accounts with the Fed so, to lend to a bank, we simply use the computer to mark up the size of the account that they have with the Fed. Its much more akin to printing money. - B.Bernanke


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Quote Originally Posted by playwrite View Post
OMG that is funny!

True, but still pretty darn funny. I'm stealing it... and no, I won't give you credit.
If only you knew...

Best...







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another one bits the dust!

Newt, we hardly knew ya!

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics...tory?track=rss

Newt Gingrich's Freddie Mac work draws new scrutiny

$1.6 million from 'evil' Freddie for advising them at the height of the forming housing bubble.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rY0WxgSXdEE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6RoO...eature=related
"The Devil enters the prompter's box and the play is ready to start" - R. Service

Its not tax money. The banks have accounts with the Fed so, to lend to a bank, we simply use the computer to mark up the size of the account that they have with the Fed. Its much more akin to printing money. - B.Bernanke


"Keep your filthy hands off my guns while I decide what you can & can't do with your uterus" - Sarah Silverman

If you meet a magic pony on the road, kill it. - Playwrite







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Quote Originally Posted by playwrite View Post
Newt, we hardly knew ya!

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics...tory?track=rss




$1.6 million from 'evil' Freddie for advising them at the height of the forming housing bubble.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rY0WxgSXdEE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6RoO...eature=related
Any bets on who is up next? I'm guessing Ron Paul.







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Quote Originally Posted by ASB65 View Post
Any bets on who is up next? I'm guessing Ron Paul.
Huntsman. And he is the real deal, unlike the others.







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Quote Originally Posted by playwrite View Post
Newt, we hardly knew ya!

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics...tory?track=rss





$1.6 million from 'evil' Freddie for advising them at the height of the forming housing bubble.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rY0WxgSXdEE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6RoO...eature=related
Not only that, he originally said it was only half a million, and he claimed he was advising them to cut back risky lending, when in fact their officials unanimously confirmed that they paid him the money to convince Congressional Republicans that they were doing the lord's work. Which I assume he did by redistributing most of the money to them. . . .Unlike sexual harassment, this is something his fellow candidates are going to be bringing up, Perry, especially, that dreaded scourge of crony capitalism. . . .

I wonder, how many of you know what a Fabian strategy is?
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Quote Originally Posted by KaiserD2 View Post
The next election may feature two evils, but it will make a HUGE difference all the same.
Funny how they say that every time, and how every time afterward, nothing gets different.

It must be some sort of specialized-jargon definition of the word 'difference' you guys are using. That's it, right?
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