The stupidity of Americans is astounding, isn't it. Sure, put the same policies in again that crashed the economy in the first place.Also in the poll, more respondents think Romney is better suited to get the economy back on track than Obama, 53% to 40%.
Nothing like having a stake in part of the media.
Romney’s Bain Capital Owns Media Giant Broadcasting Limbaugh, Hannity
By Alex Newman
January 16, 2012 "New American" -- Activists are expressing serious concerns that Mitt Romney’s private equity firm Bain Capital owns one of America’s largest media conglomerates, Clear Channel Communications, Inc., which broadcasts numerous popular talk-show hosts with incalculable influence in the 2012 GOP primary. Among the radio personalities syndicated by Clear Channel or aired on hundreds of stations it owns nationwide are Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Mark Levin, Glenn Beck, Michael Savage, and many others.
Because of the San Antonio-based media giant’s enormous influence — it is the largest owner of radio stations in the United States, and experts point out that it essentially owns what has come to be known as the conservative talk-radio industry — Romney critics, supporters of Ron Paul and Newt Gingrich, Tea Party groups, and elections commentators are all raising the alarm. Some analysts are even calling for the firm to disclose the fact that Romney’s Bain Capital owns a station or syndicates a show whenever a media personality is reporting on the Republican presidential campaign.
http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews...mbaugh-hannity
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"The only Good America is a Just America." .... pbrower2a
Looks like *Santorum* might just be Christian enough to be a running mate with Romney.
"The only Good America is a Just America." .... pbrower2a
Iowa Caucus Rigged? - MarmiteMan4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrH7w6krKUc&feature=channel_video_title
How do you explain Ron Paul finishing third when he was certain to finish first within days of the vote. How did Rick Santorum finish second when he has had barely any support?
Apparently, like you, she worked for her money. I have a hard time seeing how that undercuts her as a watchdog. No one in politics can afford to be poor anymore. When was the last time you heard of a Blue Collar Congressman?Originally Posted by James50
Marx: Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies.
Lennon: You either get tired fighting for peace, or you die.
Ok, I watched the video. A couple of things popped out at me. First, why is this young Brit so upset about who won Iowa? I guess, I didn't realize that people in other countries are that passionate about American politics. And secondly...yep, the younger kids really are behind Ron Paul.
Maybe he is right. Perhaps the Iowa Caucus was rigged. Could be. I suppose anything is possible. But maybe it's a case of Iowa having an older population and many of them being evangelicals. This could be why although Paul had a good showing he couldn't seal the deal. I can see how Santorum would do good with the population of that state.
Somehow there seems to be the notion that the OWS protesters or those concerned about the gap between large corporate CEO salaries and political influence resent anyone who has done well or made money. That is a mistaken notion--at least for most people I know.
There is nothing wrong with being financially successful. Warren is an "American Exceptionalism" success story. So she makes a lot of money. Wealth alone doesn't automatically qualify or disqualify anyone. What Warren does have is a sense of responsibility and the ability to help, inform, and advocate on behalf of those who aren't as monetarily successful as she has been.
Heck, FDR came from the elite. Lincoln did very well as a lawyer and he represented railroads, the biggest capitalists of that era. He also came from less than nothing.
MA voted in Kennedys for many years. Romney was once their governor. I don't think Warren's finances are going to be a huge concern in that state
The last Iowa poll before the caucus showed Santorum at 15 percent. However, the poll was taken over several days. If you just took the data from the last two days of the poll, Santorum hit 21 percent. He was rising sharply in the polls when the Iowans caucused.
One reason why his polls started rising sharply was because some local prominent evangelicals endorsed Santorum a week or so before the caucus. So lots of undecided evangelicals went with Santorum rather than Perry, Gingrich, or Bachmann.
Some pundits were actually predicting a Santorum win in the Washington Post oped section. So his virtual tie with Romney was not a surprise to me.
I want people to know that peace is possible even in this stupid day and age. Prem Rawat, June 8, 2008
Wow, you know it's a 4T when even the Evangelicals can't even come to a consensus regarding Santorum.
Conservatives feud over Santorum endorsement. Some say Texas weekend gathering manipulated
In an evolving power struggle, religious conservatives are feuding about whether a weekend meeting in Texas yielded a consensus that former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum is the best bet to stop Mitt Romney’s drive for the Republican presidential nomination.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...te-was-rigged/
"The only Good America is a Just America." .... pbrower2a
It was bad enough that the talk shows had bias, but now the talk of callers-in appears to be rigged? And I thought that FoX "News" was bad.Nothing like having a stake in part of the media.
Romney’s Bain Capital Owns Media Giant Broadcasting Limbaugh, Hannity
By Alex Newman
January 16, 2012 "New American" -- Activists are expressing serious concerns that Mitt Romney’s private equity firm Bain Capital owns one of America’s largest media conglomerates, Clear Channel Communications, Inc., which broadcasts numerous popular talk-show hosts with incalculable influence in the 2012 GOP primary. Among the radio personalities syndicated by Clear Channel or aired on hundreds of stations it owns nationwide are Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Mark Levin, Glenn Beck, Michael Savage, and many others.
Because of the San Antonio-based media giant’s enormous influence — it is the largest owner of radio stations in the United States, and experts point out that it essentially owns what has come to be known as the conservative talk-radio industry — Romney critics, supporters of Ron Paul and Newt Gingrich, Tea Party groups, and elections commentators are all raising the alarm. Some analysts are even calling for the firm to disclose the fact that Romney’s Bain Capital owns a station or syndicates a show whenever a media personality is reporting on the Republican presidential campaign.
http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews...mbaugh-hannity
The Hard Right shows that it doesn't even want an honest discussion of the news through commentary.
The greatest evil is not now done in those sordid "dens of crime" (or) even in concentration camps and labour camps. In those we see its final result. But it is conceived and ordered... in clean, carpeted, warmed and well-lighted offices, by (those) who do not need to raise their voices. Hence, naturally enough, my symbol for Hell is something like the bureaucracy of a police state or the office of a thoroughly nasty business concern."
― C.S. Lewis, The Screwtape Letters
The only mitigating factor may be that Romney doesn't actually own Bain anymore; if I remember correctly.Nothing like having a stake in part of the media.
Romney’s Bain Capital Owns Media Giant Broadcasting Limbaugh, Hannity
By Alex Newman
January 16, 2012 "New American" -- Activists are expressing serious concerns that Mitt Romney’s private equity firm Bain Capital owns one of America’s largest media conglomerates, Clear Channel Communications, Inc., which broadcasts numerous popular talk-show hosts with incalculable influence in the 2012 GOP primary. Among the radio personalities syndicated by Clear Channel or aired on hundreds of stations it owns nationwide are Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Mark Levin, Glenn Beck, Michael Savage, and many others.
Because of the San Antonio-based media giant’s enormous influence — it is the largest owner of radio stations in the United States, and experts point out that it essentially owns what has come to be known as the conservative talk-radio industry — Romney critics, supporters of Ron Paul and Newt Gingrich, Tea Party groups, and elections commentators are all raising the alarm. Some analysts are even calling for the firm to disclose the fact that Romney’s Bain Capital owns a station or syndicates a show whenever a media personality is reporting on the Republican presidential campaign.
http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews...mbaugh-hannity
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The article indicated that he still has a bit of influence over the company. Yikes!
Here:Today, of course, Romney no longer leads the firm he co-founded, though Bain Capital and Bain & Co. are shoveling gargantuan sums of money into his campaign. But Romney still owns a huge stake in the company and profits handsomely from it, according to his financial disclosure report. And analysts say he undoubtedly still wields at least some degree of influence.
"The only Good America is a Just America." .... pbrower2a
Mitch Daniels.
So, Romney killed radio. Not voting for him, even if he did pick up Mitch.
Good idea. Killed indeed.
Pretty chilling. If Romney wins, then the media and the government are officially merged. Big Brother. Pravda.Today, of course, Romney no longer leads the firm he co-founded, though Bain Capital and Bain & Co. are shoveling gargantuan sums of money into his campaign. But Romney still owns a huge stake in the company and profits handsomely from it, according to his financial disclosure report. And analysts say he undoubtedly still wields at least some degree of influence.
What exactly is your point, James? What do you think she should be doing or saying? Do you honestly think that anyone who compares about the income distribution in our society must be either jealous or hypocritical? Or is there some range of income--a narrow one, surely--in which it's morally OK to be worried about that?
David Kaiser '47
My blog: History Unfolding
My book: The Road to Dallas: The Assassination of John F. Kennedy
Limbaugh is no fan of Romney.
David Kaiser '47
My blog: History Unfolding
My book: The Road to Dallas: The Assassination of John F. Kennedy
Certainly. Also from the American article:
FormerPolitico.com reporter Ben Smith, now the editor-in-chief of BuzzFeed, called out Rush Limbaugh on Thursday for defending Romney and Bain Capital without disclosing that his employer is owned by the candidate’s firm. “Talk radio king Rush Limbaugh has emerged as a key defender of Mitt Romney’s tenure at Bain Capital, where — his Republican and Democratic critics charge — layoffs at companies Bain owned should be blamed on Romney,” noted Smith. “But Limbaugh hasn’t mentioned his own tie to the venture capital firm: Bain owns Clear Channel Communications, whose subsidiary inked a $400 million, eight-year syndication deal with Limbaugh in 2008.”
"The only Good America is a Just America." .... pbrower2a
This reminds me of when GE owned NBC and CNBC. On CNBC if a certain stock was crashing the anchors and financial guru's would go into detailed explanations as to why the stock was dropping and what was wrong with that particular company. But if GE stock was taking huge losses, they would simply state, "GE is down today." and not give any further information as to why.
Rush Limbaugh is no one's employee. He negotiated a contract that pays him millions to do his show. He is an entertainer.
James50
The whole modern world has divided itself into Conservatives and Progressives. The business of Progressives is to go on making mistakes. The business of the Conservatives is to prevent the mistakes from being corrected. - G.K. Chesterton
Once you start talking about the 1%, pretty soon you begin picking favorites. Sports stars, entertainers, news readers, and academics who get rich are forgiven. Even politicians are forgiven if they are on the correct end of the political spectrum. They "earned" it. On the other hand, employers who actually build companies and hire high school graduates to do manual work should be taxed, regulated, and spurned at every turn. The 1% who never get their skirts dirty and who hold to the correct political opinions are forgiven. Those of us who take on the role of employer in the day to day real world are just slave masters by another name.
Its how the game is played.
You can bet that Elizabeth Warren will never seek to reduce or regulate the power, income, and influence of academia and never mind the number of millies who will indenture themselves to pay off the loans that support her life style.
James50
EDIT: No, I am not in the 1%, but would like to be someday.
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The whole modern world has divided itself into Conservatives and Progressives. The business of Progressives is to go on making mistakes. The business of the Conservatives is to prevent the mistakes from being corrected. - G.K. Chesterton
I wonder if they would go with Romney and Santorum for the same reason - neither is Protestant.
"My generation, we were the generation that was going to change the world: somehow we were going to make it a little less lonely, a little less hungry, a little more just place. But it seems that when that promise slipped through our hands we didn´t replace it with nothing but lost faith."
Bruce Springsteen, 1987
http://brucebase.wikispaces.com/1987...+YORK+CITY,+NY
James, I admit I'm uncomfortable with voting for anyone who from the silver spoon crowd. I always question whether or not they truly understand the plight of the average middle class person in America, let alone the poor working class Americans. Unfortunately, these days we don't have much of choice but to vote for millionaires, because most everyone running is one. Our congress in filled with millionaires and billionaires on both sides of the aisle. There are few people in congress who aren't. This why we need major campaign finance reform in this country. The little guy doesn't stand a chance. He doesn't have the connections to other big donors because he (or she) doesn't run that circle.
And even though, I think you have done ok for yourself, I assume you are not in the same league as most of these people in congress or who are running for congress. So you are probably right that perhaps Elizabeth Warren or anyone of her financial status (regardless of political party) knows what it's like to be a small business owner of a construction company and understands the challenges you face. To me it comes down to this. If you called your senator or congressman do you think they would drop everything to take your call? Or even ever call you back personally? Because I know none of mine would call me back. I'm not that important. Now if I was the CEO of GE or some other filthy rich person, I think they would. We probably have dinner together often or maybe even our families would vacation together. They would get my world because I would be one of them. But I'm not, so I don't "get" their world either. However, I do understand the world and concerns of all my middle class friends and neighbors...Because I'm one of them.
I know I am whining again. Many people would love to be in the situation I am in. I also recognize the income inequality problem. Still, the whole focus on the 1% sets my teeth on edge as we attempt to decide who is in the 1% in a good way and who is in it in a bad way. And I also struggle with the sense that whatever the political system ends up doing will involve coming after people like me and leaving untouched the class of people and systems that are actually the problem.
James50
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The whole modern world has divided itself into Conservatives and Progressives. The business of Progressives is to go on making mistakes. The business of the Conservatives is to prevent the mistakes from being corrected. - G.K. Chesterton
And right on point... ever wonder who are the top contributors to Obama's campaign in the 2012 election cycle? Would you believe that University of California, Harvard, and Stanford are in the top 10 and above Goldman Sachs?
And in the 2008 cycle, the top donor was the University of California with Harvard as number 3.The organizations themselves did not donate , rather the money came from the organizations' PACs, their individual members or employees or owners, and those individuals' immediate families. Organization totals include subsidiaries and affiliates.
And which President just took over the student loan system from the evil bankers? These entities are buying influence to be sure the gravy train they are now on does not slow down.
These are not poor people, and they work at institutions that pay no taxes.
Follow the money.
James50
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The whole modern world has divided itself into Conservatives and Progressives. The business of Progressives is to go on making mistakes. The business of the Conservatives is to prevent the mistakes from being corrected. - G.K. Chesterton
